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REMINDER: Upcoming meeting Wed Mar 15 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Its that time again for a WLUG meeting! At this month's meeting, WLUG member Frank Sweetser will be presenting "Wireless Networking Security". Frank will be doing a quick overview of some of the major security related issues in setting up a wireless network, the major vulnerabilities (WEP weaknesses in particular), and ways to close up the holes. He will also include a brief demo of Back Track, a bootable linux CD that includes numerous security related tools, and use it crack a WEP key. Frank is a Network Engineer at WPI, where his duties include Linux administration and the care and feeding of the campus wireless network. I'll bring a book for the no cost raffle: The Official Samba-3 HOWTO and Reference Manual 2nd Edition ISBN: 0-13-188222-8 Published by Prentice Hall After the meeting, we'll go out to the Tech Pizza restaurant to enjoy pizza, soda, and conversation on a variety of topics (including Linux!). See ya at the meeting! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFOlsHl0iXDssISsRAretAJ4v2SVLPuKOredGZ/89Me7eTdDgfwCfcjNT jIu8JKcO5IBeih8LoAA76Sg= =aN9b -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 13, 2006

Fwd: [Wlug] problems with smb export on external usb drive

by Jim Dibb

Sorry to followup to my own email but I eventually solved my problem by reformatting the filesystem and copying all the data back to it. I just couldn't get the security set right. I could mount the share, but not see any files on it. From that point I reformatted, without doing anything else, and everything worked fine from then on. THanks. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jim Dibb <jimdibb(a)gmail.com> Date: Mar 7, 2006 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] problems with smb export on external usb drive To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > > > > > > > Great answer, that was it. Only question I have is whether I have > > to > > > disable SeLinux control of smbd and nmbd or just smbd. Thanks! > > > > Those aren't really the proper answer. The correct solution is to > > label the filesystem for smbd access, or add the desired filesystem > > label to the policy. > > > > But I suppose your solution is ok, akin to disabling a firewall > > instead of unblocking the one port you need. > >

March 8, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Adding repositories?

by Chuck Anderson

On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 07:46:23AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > So, I'm feeling a bit worried. Does anyone have a sense of how much > these repositories should be trusted? Core, Extras, and Livna are designed to cooperate and not upgrade each other's packages. Anything else depends on the repository maintainer. If a repo replaces Core packages, it may or may not interfere with Core updates, Extras, Livna, etc., depending on the extent of those replacements. Some would argue that if you are replacing Core components, it isn't really Fedora anymore, and you shouldn't report bugs to Fedora about your system in that case. You could try picking and choosing just the packages you want from the 3rd party repos and install those manually. However, in many cases, Core libraries are being replaced to add functionality that was missing from the Core version, or programs are recompiled with different options to enable support for additional features, e.g. MP3 support, which the program you want might need. Therefore, it isn't always an option to use a 3rd party repo in a piecemeal manner. In fact, the maintainers of those repos may frown upon that, since it causes them more of a support headache when users report bugs which are really only due to them not using all the packages from said 3rd party repo. You could go the other way and completely switch to some of the larger repos which have "everything" including updates, etc., but then you are diverging from Fedora even more. The proper solution to these problems of course is to fix or enhance the Core, Extras, and Livna packages so the 3rd party repos don't need to replace them, or for the 3rd party repo maintainers to cooperate with Fedora by contributing directly to Core, Extras, and Livna. Some of the issues are technical problems with the design of the software, such as the aforementioned MP3 support--those kinds of features should be modular so that they can be loaded at runtime from a separate package which provides the legally questionable components. Then that package could go into e.g. Livna.

March 8, 2006

Adding repositories?

by Bill Mills-Curran

I've added a new repository (or two) to my yum config, and I'm feeling a bit exposed. I wonder what other WLUG members do about additional repositories. In an effort to support vlc, I had added the livna repository, and when that stopped working (after recent fedora updates), I found that switching from livna to dries helped. Now I notice that there are quite a few packages from dries that will update fedora packages. So, I'm feeling a bit worried. Does anyone have a sense of how much these repositories should be trusted? TIA, Bill

March 8, 2006

Re: [Wlug] problems with smb export on external usb drive

by Jim Dibb

> > > > > > > > Great answer, that was it. Only question I have is whether I have > > to > > > disable SeLinux control of smbd and nmbd or just smbd. Thanks! > > > > Those aren't really the proper answer. The correct solution is to > > label the filesystem for smbd access, or add the desired filesystem > > label to the policy. > > > > But I suppose your solution is ok, akin to disabling a firewall > > instead of unblocking the one port you need. > > So, I can't figure out how to change that. I thought I could do it by using the 'reset' and/or fixfiles functionality. That changed the ls display to [root@linuxlaptop media]# ls -lZ /media drwxr-xr-x root root system_u:object_r:mnt_t cdrecorder drwxrwxrwx root root system_u:object_r:mnt_t media /media/media was a file_t type before. But now I can mount "music" on my xp host, but cant see any files. [music] path = /media/media writeable = yes browseable = yes valid users = jim I get the following in the audit log. I have no idea why its referring to the trash file. Any more clues? Thanks. type=CWD msg=audit(1141778849.514:1463): cwd="/media/media" type=PATH msg=audit(1141778849.514:1463): item=0 name=2E2F3130302047756974617220536F6C6F732032312D3430 flags=1 inode=7061505 dev=08:01 mode=040775 ouid=500 ogid=500 rdev=00:00 type=AVC msg=audit(1141778849.514:1464): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=6755 comm="smbd" name=".Trash-jim" dev=sda1 ino=3997697 scontext=root:system_r:smbd_t tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t tclass=dir type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1141778849.514:1464): arch=40000003 syscall=195 success=no exit=-13 a0=bf9ccc74 a1=bf9cd474 a2=589ff4 a3=bf9cd474 items=1 pid=6755 auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=0 euid=500 suid=0 fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="smbd" exe="/usr/sbin/smbd" type=AVC_PATH msg=audit(1141778849.514:1464): path="/media/media/.Trash-jim" type=CWD msg=audit(1141778849.514:1464): cwd="/media/media" type=PATH msg=audit(1141778849.514:1464): item=0 name="./.Trash-jim" flags=1 inode=3997697 dev=08:01 mode=040700 ouid=500 ogid=500 rdev=00:00 type=AVC msg=audit(1141778849.514:1465): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=6755 comm="smbd" name=31302C303030204D616E69616373 dev=sda1 ino=7749633 scontext=root:system_r:smbd_t tcontext=user_u:object_r:file_t tclass=dir type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1141778849.514:1465): arch=40000003 syscall=195 success=no exit=-13 a0=bf9ccc74 a1=bf9cd474 a2=589ff4 a3=bf9cd474 items=1 pid=6755 auid=4294967295 uid=500 gid=0 euid=500 suid=0 fsuid=500 egid=500 sgid=500 fsgid=500 comm="smbd" exe="/usr/sbin/smbd" type=AVC_PATH msg=audit(1141778849.514:1465): path=2F6D656469612F6D656469612F31302C303030204D616E69616373 type=CWD msg=audit(1141778849.514:1465): cwd="/media/media" type=PATH msg=audit(1141778849.514:1465): item=0 name=2E2F31302C303030204D616E69616373 flags=1 inode=7749633 dev=08:01 mode=040775 ouid=500 ogid=500 rdev=00:00

March 8, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Bluetooth hardware recomendations

by John Stoffel

Ok, so I've finally gotten around to looking at my USB dongle. It's a Kensington Bluetooth USB Adapter. Model #33085, and it's worked well in my limited testing on a heavily updated Debian box, running fairly recent 2.6 kernels. It's about an inch and a quarter long, not including the USB plug part. Has a little light that goes on as well. Not a bad buy, just wish I had more use for it. John

March 8, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Bluetooth hardware recomendations

by John Stoffel

My apologies, but I've been sick this past week, so last night I crashed early and never checked my USB dongle for setup or anything. Maybe tonight if I get a chance. John

March 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] problems with smb export on external usb drive

by Jim Dibb

Ok, I'll look into those options. Thanks for the tips. On 3/6/06, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 07:37:36PM -0500, Jim Dibb wrote: > > > > If you check FC4 /var/log/audit/audit.log, you will probably > > > > see that SELinux isn't allowing smbd to access that directory. > > > > > > > > Great answer, that was it. Only question I have is whether I have > to > > disable SeLinux control of smbd and nmbd or just smbd. Thanks! > > Those aren't really the proper answer. The correct solution is to > label the filesystem for smbd access, or add the desired filesystem > label to the policy. > > But I suppose your solution is ok, akin to disabling a firewall > instead of unblocking the one port you need. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] problems with smb export on external usb drive

by Chuck Anderson

On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 07:37:36PM -0500, Jim Dibb wrote: > > > If you check FC4 /var/log/audit/audit.log, you will probably > > > see that SELinux isn't allowing smbd to access that directory. > > > > > > Great answer, that was it. Only question I have is whether I have to > disable SeLinux control of smbd and nmbd or just smbd. Thanks! Those aren't really the proper answer. The correct solution is to label the filesystem for smbd access, or add the desired filesystem label to the policy. But I suppose your solution is ok, akin to disabling a firewall instead of unblocking the one port you need.

March 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] problems with smb export on external usb drive

by Jim Dibb

On 3/6/06, Jim Dibb <jimdibb(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Any advice on what might be wrong? > > > > If you check FC4 /var/log/audit/audit.log, you will probably > > see that SELinux isn't allowing smbd to access that directory. > > > > Great answer, that was it. Only question I have is whether I have to disable SeLinux control of smbd and nmbd or just smbd. Thanks!

March 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] problems with smb export on external usb drive

by Jim Dibb

On 3/6/06, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 09:33:46PM -0500, Jim Dibb wrote: > > [2006/02/28 21:03:28, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(615) > > '/media/media' does not exist or is not a directory, when connecting > to > > [media] > > > > Since I have a copy of the files on my xp box now, I was thinking of > > destroying the fs and recreating it, then putting all the data back. I > just > > find it very strange that with the above smb.conf, I can mount /media as > > media on my xp box and I can see the cdrecorder directory but I can't > see > > the media directory. > > > > Any advice on what might be wrong? > > If you check FC4 /var/log/audit/audit.log, you will probably > see that SELinux isn't allowing smbd to access that directory. > > Can you post part of audit.log around the time access is attempted, > and also the security attributes on the directories? > > ls -lZ /media > ls -lZ /media/media I will do that tonight. Thanks!

March 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] problems with smb export on external usb drive

by Chuck Anderson

On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 09:33:46PM -0500, Jim Dibb wrote: > [2006/02/28 21:03:28, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(615) > '/media/media' does not exist or is not a directory, when connecting to > [media] > > Since I have a copy of the files on my xp box now, I was thinking of > destroying the fs and recreating it, then putting all the data back. I just > find it very strange that with the above smb.conf, I can mount /media as > media on my xp box and I can see the cdrecorder directory but I can't see > the media directory. > > Any advice on what might be wrong? If you check FC4 /var/log/audit/audit.log, you will probably see that SELinux isn't allowing smbd to access that directory. Can you post part of audit.log around the time access is attempted, and also the security attributes on the directories? ls -lZ /media ls -lZ /media/media

March 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Bluetooth hardware recomendations

by John Stoffel

Karl> I need a blue tooth interface for my PC, and wondering if anyone Karl> has any brands, or hardware chip sets to recommend. I got one for my Linux box and while it works, the access to my Motorola v505 sucks, at least it used to, I haven't tried it recently. But the bluetooth stack stuff is a pain to work with at times. Also, you either want to plug the USB bluetooth dongle directly into a powered USB port, or into a hub with power. I'd tell you which one I got, but it's plugged into a non-powered hub and not showing up with lsusb right now. Karl> I will probably buy a USB or PCMCIA interface. Buying something Karl> USB though would allow me to use it in both my desktop and Karl> laptop, where only my laptop has PCMCIA. USB is probably the way to go here. Karl> Bluetooth devices i want to hook too, claims it is something Karl> like rs-232 serial output over bluetooth, but i gota figure that Karl> out. After that i may try with a digicam or mobile phone. I think I got a kensington. I'll try to send more details from home later. John

March 6, 2006

problems with smb export on external usb drive

by Jim Dibb

I had a drive with an ext3 filesystem in an old p2 running RH8 storing my mp3 files. I moved the drive into a USB enclosure attached to a laptop running FC4. The laptop mounted the fs on /media/media pretty much automatically. The problem is I can't export the /media/media FS with samba to mount on a windows host. I can export /media, and the xp box can see /media/cdrecorder, but /media/media is invisible. I have the following in various config files: from mount: automount(pid2427) on /net type autofs (rw,fd=4,pgrp=2427,minproto=2,maxproto=4) /dev/sda1 on /media/media type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,_netdev,user=jim) in /etc/fstab: /dev/sda1 /media/media ext3 pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 /dev/hdc /media/cdrecorder auto pamconsole,exec,noauto,managed 0 0 ls: [root@linuxlaptop /]# ls -al /media total 32 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Mar 5 21:32 . drwxr-xr-x 27 root root 4096 Mar 5 11:13 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 5 11:14 cdrecorder drwxrwxrwx 247 root root 8192 Mar 1 09:29 media in smb.conf: ( I did have /media/media) [media] path = /media writeable = yes browseable = yes valid users = jim in /var/logs/samba/ (when path above was /media/media) [2006/02/28 21:03:28, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(615) '/media/media' does not exist or is not a directory, when connecting to [media] Since I have a copy of the files on my xp box now, I was thinking of destroying the fs and recreating it, then putting all the data back. I just find it very strange that with the above smb.conf, I can mount /media as media on my xp box and I can see the cdrecorder directory but I can't see the media directory. Any advice on what might be wrong? Thanks.

March 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Help with Fedora Core3 -> Core4

by Chuck Anderson

On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 09:46:17PM -0500, Ken Jones wrote: > Yesterday I transitioned from Core3 to Core4. My sound disappeared. > Core4 is shipped without the kernel source code. Not true. All the source for Fedora is shipped per requirement of the GPL and other licenses. Read the release notes to see why Fedora no longer ships 2 copies of the kernel source and what replaced it. > I downloaded and installed <kernel-2.6.15-1.1833_FC4.src.rpm>. kernel-devel contains the part you need to compile 3rd party drivers. yum install kernel-devel-`uname -r`

March 5, 2006

Re: Help with Fedora Core3 -> Core4

by Ken Jones

Got it! Remember Open Sound System stopped working when I went from Core3 to Core4? Now it works. I had also upgraded the kernel. This was a problem because OSS needs to compile with the kernel. I missed some of the modules needed for a successful compilation. The system would not work with ALSA. I think my sound card is unique for some reason. ALSA needed to be disabled before OSS would work. OSS help desk Dev Mazumdar was very helpful. Thanks, you all, for being there. Ken Jones

March 4, 2006

test -- ignore

by Bill Mills-Curran

Sorry to waste bandwidth.

March 4, 2006

Stupid test, please excuse

by kwright＠keithdiane.us

I just posted something that got rejected because I am not a member (it says). I recently changed the address of the subscription. This is to test that I can properly impersonate myself. -- Keith

March 4, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Help with Fedora Core3 -> Core4

by rewster

On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 22:11 -0500, Jared Greenwald wrote: > I thought that OSS was depricated in favor of ALSA? Depricated in the official kernel tree. People are still developing it though. > On 3/3/06, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > > Yesterday I transitioned from Core3 to Core4. My sound disappeared. > > Core4 is shipped without the kernel source code. > > > > I have a special sound driver for my Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live > > EMU10k1X card. The driver is Open Sound System from > > <http://www.opensound.com/>. It needs to be compiled with the kernel. > > I sent the soundconfig.log to the Help Desk. EMU10k1X? Isn't that an audigy? I have two different SBlive (emu10k1) models and both work with either the OSS or ALSA drivers. Is there a specific feature you need in the OSS version that ALSA doesn't provide? > > --------------Open Sound's Help Desk wrote---------------- > > Hi, > > > > You don't have the kernel source RPM, otherwise OSS would not be > > complaining: > > > make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/source: No such file or > > directory. Stop. > > > make: [ossbuild] Error 2 (ignored) > > > make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source SUBDIRS=/usr/lib/oss/kbuild > > CC="gcc" modules > > > make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/source: No such file or > > directory. Stop. > > > > Please install the kernel source RPM and then get the REGPARM version of > > OSS. > > ---------------------end snip---------------------------------------- > > > > I downloaded and installed <kernel-2.6.15-1.1833_FC4.src.rpm>. The src.rpm isn't really what you want here... You want the kernel-devel package. If you have yum set up, just yum install kernel-devel. There was a a time when "all you needed" to build kernel modules was in the kernel rpm but iirc people complained about the size so it got split out. > > Since then I have been thrashing around without success. I would > > appreciate an email from anyone who has a moment to help. It does not > > seem appropriate to foist further details onto this whole list. > > > > Ken Jones I vote foist away, this list is pretty low traffic lately ;) (hence why I am posting instead of just lurking as usual) -- rewster <rewster(a)rewster.org>

March 4, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Help with Fedora Core3 -> Core4

by Jared Greenwald

I thought that OSS was depricated in favor of ALSA? On 3/3/06, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Yesterday I transitioned from Core3 to Core4. My sound disappeared. > Core4 is shipped without the kernel source code. > > I have a special sound driver for my Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live > EMU10k1X card. The driver is Open Sound System from > <http://www.opensound.com/>. It needs to be compiled with the kernel. > I sent the soundconfig.log to the Help Desk. > > --------------Open Sound's Help Desk wrote---------------- > Hi, > > You don't have the kernel source RPM, otherwise OSS would not be > complaining: > > make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/source: No such file or > directory. Stop. > > make: [ossbuild] Error 2 (ignored) > > make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source SUBDIRS=/usr/lib/oss/kbuild > CC="gcc" modules > > make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/source: No such file or > directory. Stop. > > Please install the kernel source RPM and then get the REGPARM version of > OSS. > ---------------------end snip---------------------------------------- > > I downloaded and installed <kernel-2.6.15-1.1833_FC4.src.rpm>. > > Since then I have been thrashing around without success. I would > appreciate an email from anyone who has a moment to help. It does not > seem appropriate to foist further details onto this whole list. > > Ken Jones > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 4, 2006

Help with Fedora Core3 -> Core4

by Ken Jones

Yesterday I transitioned from Core3 to Core4. My sound disappeared. Core4 is shipped without the kernel source code. I have a special sound driver for my Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live EMU10k1X card. The driver is Open Sound System from <http://www.opensound.com/>. It needs to be compiled with the kernel. I sent the soundconfig.log to the Help Desk. --------------Open Sound's Help Desk wrote---------------- Hi, You don't have the kernel source RPM, otherwise OSS would not be complaining: > make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/source: No such file or directory. Stop. > make: [ossbuild] Error 2 (ignored) > make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source SUBDIRS=/usr/lib/oss/kbuild CC="gcc" modules > make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.1833_FC4/source: No such file or directory. Stop. Please install the kernel source RPM and then get the REGPARM version of OSS. ---------------------end snip---------------------------------------- I downloaded and installed <kernel-2.6.15-1.1833_FC4.src.rpm>. Since then I have been thrashing around without success. I would appreciate an email from anyone who has a moment to help. It does not seem appropriate to foist further details onto this whole list. Ken Jones

March 4, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: NO meeting THURSDAY

by kwright＠keithdiane.us

> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting THURSDAY 7:00 PM > From: Bill Smith, Frank Moody, Ross Minkov, Andy Stewart It's time to change the subject line. The meeting was two weeks ago. When I saw the last message, I started to make plans to go to WPI tomorrow, but further investigation shows that people have been replying to Andy's message without changing the subject line, even though it is now totally wrong in two different ways--- It's a false statement and not the topic of the message. -- Keith

March 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Bluetooth hardware recomendations

by Jamie Guinan

On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > I need a blue tooth interface for my PC, and wondering if anyone has any brands, > or hardware chip sets to recommend. > > I will probably buy a USB or PCMCIA interface. Buying something USB though > would allow me to use it in both my desktop and laptop, where only my laptop has > PCMCIA. > > Bluetooth devices i want to hook too, claims it is something like rs-232 serial > output over bluetooth, but i gota figure that out. After that i may try with a > digicam or mobile phone. I've used a Belkin F8T001 v2.11 successfully, and transferred images from a Concord GoWireless camera, and a friend's mobile phone. <rant> I think it was a Motorola V557 (or similar), but it was on Cingular service, which doesn't disable BlueTooth OBEX features, unlike certain other services, http://www.nuclearelephant.com/papers/v710.html </rant> I also have an IOGear dongle that I use with a mouse in my living room setup, http://www.buy.com/prod/IOGear_Bluetooth_1_2_USB_Adapter_CL_2_Range_66FT_Fr… http://www.buy.com/prod/Kensington_PilotMouse_Mini_Bluetooth_72414/q/loc/10… I'm prety sure you can run any protocol (HID, serial, etc.) over the dongle. -Jamie

March 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Perl puzzle solved

by Jared Greenwald

I find that for doing multiple edits on a single line on a single pass its best to use awk. -Jared On 3/1/06, douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com <douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com> wrote: > > > Thanks Jared and Frank for your quick responses. > > The solution, it turns out, had nothing to do with RE's, but rather with > input lines and files. > > I'm dealing with multi-line, comma-separated-value records, using Perl > programs to convert them to single line records, change bare carriage-return > characters to newline characters and eventually remove extraneous trailing > commas, e.g. ...,"Moe, Larry, Curly, ",... (the comma and space after > "Curly" is extraneous). I guess you can only do so much in one pass through > an input file. > > The solution was to write two Perl programs, and use a two-stage process > as in: > > cat multi-line-input-records | makethemsinglelines.pl | > removetrailingcommas.pl > greatlookingfile.out > > Thanks again, > Doug > > > > > *"Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)WPI.EDU>* > Sent by: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org > > 03/01/2006 09:40 AM Please respond to > "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > To > "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> cc > > Subject > Re: [Wlug] Perl puzzle > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 09:30:26AM -0500, douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.comwrote: > > The obvious s/, "/"/g doesn't work, nor does escaping the > > double-quotes, as in s/, \"/\"/g > > Try > > $target =~ s/,\s\"/\"/g; > > -- > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL > Mencken > GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

March 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting THURSDAY 7:00 PM

by Bill Smith

Le Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:52:58 -0500 Frank Moody <fmoody-ug-wlug(a)moodman.org> a écrit: > Heh, not having management to approve paying for LW, I've > opted to get the free exhibits pass. It includes the feature > presentations and keynotes, so it should be worth the commute on the > T.... That's probably the approach I'll be taking. :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com

March 1, 2006

Bluetooth hardware recomendations

by Karl Hiramoto

I need a blue tooth interface for my PC, and wondering if anyone has any brands, or hardware chip sets to recommend. I will probably buy a USB or PCMCIA interface. Buying something USB though would allow me to use it in both my desktop and laptop, where only my laptop has PCMCIA. Bluetooth devices i want to hook too, claims it is something like rs-232 serial output over bluetooth, but i gota figure that out. After that i may try with a digicam or mobile phone. -- --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk=karl.hiramoto(a)gmail.com ------

March 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Perl puzzle. Thanks for ascii man page

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Thanks Andre. You know, last night I was looking for a good table showing ascii codes. That ascii man page is a nice tip. Thanks again, Doug "Andre Lehovich" <andrel(a)yahoo.com> Sent by: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org 03/01/2006 10:49 AM Please respond to "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> To "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> cc Subject Re: [Wlug] Perl puzzle > I've been spending far too much time trying to accomplish a (seemingly) > simple thing: use a Perl substitution operation to replace, a comma > followed by a space followed by a single double-quote with a single > double-quote. Octal escapes are one way: perl -pe 's/, \042/\042/g' See the ASCII(7) man page for octal and hex codes. --Andre __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Perl puzzle

by Theo Van Dinter

On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 09:30:26AM -0500, douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > I've been spending far too much time trying to accomplish a (seemingly) > simple thing: use a Perl substitution operation to replace, a comma > followed by a space followed by a single double-quote with a single > double-quote. Ok. > The obvious s/, "/"/g doesn't work, nor does escaping the > double-quotes, as in s/, \"/\"/g There's no reason to escape the double-quote, it has no special meaning in perl RE (same with the comma, the space, etc). The first version should work, assuming you're doing the substitution on $_. ie: $ perl -e '$_=q/Foo, "Bar", "Baz"/; s/, "/"/g; print "$_\n"' Foo"Bar""Baz" If it's not something simple like operating on the wrong variable or $_ not containing the data you expect it to, a possible more obscure issue that I've run into problems with is related to a bug in perl (typically 5.8.0) where the double-quote isn't properly dealt with sometimes. If this is the case, the solution I've used is to tell perl to not do Unicode (5.8.0 has a fairly buggy Unicode implementation) by putting "use bytes" at the top of the script. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "It's not that we're afraid ... Far from it ... It's just that we have this thing about death ... it's not us." - Space Balls

March 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Perl puzzle

by Andre Lehovich

> I've been spending far too much time trying to accomplish a (seemingly) > simple thing: use a Perl substitution operation to replace, a comma > followed by a space followed by a single double-quote with a single > double-quote. Octal escapes are one way: perl -pe 's/, \042/\042/g' See the ASCII(7) man page for octal and hex codes. --Andre __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

March 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Perl puzzle solved

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Thanks Jared and Frank for your quick responses. The solution, it turns out, had nothing to do with RE's, but rather with input lines and files. I'm dealing with multi-line, comma-separated-value records, using Perl programs to convert them to single line records, change bare carriage-return characters to newline characters and eventually remove extraneous trailing commas, e.g. ...,"Moe, Larry, Curly, ",... (the comma and space after "Curly" is extraneous). I guess you can only do so much in one pass through an input file. The solution was to write two Perl programs, and use a two-stage process as in: cat multi-line-input-records | makethemsinglelines.pl | removetrailingcommas.pl > greatlookingfile.out Thanks again, Doug "Frank Sweetser" <fs(a)WPI.EDU> Sent by: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org 03/01/2006 09:40 AM Please respond to "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> To "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> cc Subject Re: [Wlug] Perl puzzle On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 09:30:26AM -0500, douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > The obvious s/, "/"/g doesn't work, nor does escaping the > double-quotes, as in s/, \"/\"/g Try $target =~ s/,\s\"/\"/g; -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Perl puzzle

by Frank Sweetser

On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 09:30:26AM -0500, douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com wrote: > The obvious s/, "/"/g doesn't work, nor does escaping the > double-quotes, as in s/, \"/\"/g Try $target =~ s/,\s\"/\"/g; -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

March 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Perl puzzle

by Jared Greenwald

Did you try escaping the comma? On 3/1/06, douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com <douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com> wrote: > > Hi. > > I've been spending far too much time trying to accomplish a (seemingly) > simple thing: use a Perl substitution operation to replace, a comma followed > by a space followed by a single double-quote with a single double-quote. > > The obvious s/, "/"/g doesn't work, nor does escaping the double-quotes, > as in s/, \"/\"/g > > I must have tried dozens of variations. RE's can be tough at times. Late > last night I had to admit defeat. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Doug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

March 1, 2006

Perl puzzle

by douglas.r.aker＠verizon.com

Hi. I've been spending far too much time trying to accomplish a (seemingly) simple thing: use a Perl substitution operation to replace, a comma followed by a space followed by a single double-quote with a single double-quote. The obvious s/, "/"/g doesn't work, nor does escaping the double-quotes, as in s/, \"/\"/g I must have tried dozens of variations. RE's can be tough at times. Late last night I had to admit defeat. Any ideas? Thanks, Doug

March 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting THURSDAY 7:00 PM

by Frank Moody

On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 09:28:15AM -0500, Minkov, Ross wrote: > > FYI: > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > LinuxWorld Boston - Special offer for Linux Magazine readers > > REGISTER today with Priority Code H0103 to receive your special > 20% discount at http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/register > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > I want to go to LinuxWorld too, but I'm still waiting on my management > approval... :( If they don't approve I'm not paying out of my own > pocket... > > > -Ross Heh, not having management to approve paying for LW, I've opted to get the free exhibits pass. It includes the feature presentations and keynotes, so it should be worth the commute on the T.... Frank

Feb. 27, 2006

RE: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting THURSDAY 7:00 PM

by Minkov, Ross

FYI: --------------------------------------------------------------- LinuxWorld Boston - Special offer for Linux Magazine readers REGISTER today with Priority Code H0103 to receive your special 20% discount at http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/register --------------------------------------------------------------- I want to go to LinuxWorld too, but I'm still waiting on my management approval... :( If they don't approve I'm not paying out of my own pocket... -Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:02 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting THURSDAY 7:00 PM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, <snip> Oh, BTW, Linux world is coming up in Boston during the first week of April. I've received a couple of emails from the Linux world folks. Does anybody have any interest in representing WLUG at this event? I'd like to go, but it depends on whether or not I can get the time off from work. Are people planning to go, because I think we can get a group discount of some kind. I'll print the emails and bring them to the meeting so we can discuss it. I'll post the info to the list afterwards. See ya later, Andy

Feb. 27, 2006

RE: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh

by Minkov, Ross

You are right... I think it was too late when I wrote that... LOL -Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Theo Van Dinter Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:47 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 12:58:19AM -0500, Minkov, Ross wrote: > > There's no per-user config to specify what authentication methods are > > allowed. It's a global setting. > > You can specify per user ssh config settings in $USER/.ssh/conifg file. > The user's configuration file overwrites the system-wide configuration > file (/etc/ssh/ssh_config) settings for that user. For the client side, yes, you can do that. However, there is nothing like that for the server side which is what has been discussed so far. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "So, the long and short of it--if you have one sysadmin, you have a "system administrator." If you have two sysadmins, you have two "system administrators." If you have two thousand sysadmins, you're at LISA." - Trey Harris <Pine.LNX.4.30.0105091748220.27344-100000(a)shells.valinux.com>

Feb. 27, 2006

Re: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh

by Theo Van Dinter

On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 12:58:19AM -0500, Minkov, Ross wrote: > > There's no per-user config to specify what authentication methods are > > allowed. It's a global setting. > > You can specify per user ssh config settings in $USER/.ssh/conifg file. > The user's configuration file overwrites the system-wide configuration > file (/etc/ssh/ssh_config) settings for that user. For the client side, yes, you can do that. However, there is nothing like that for the server side which is what has been discussed so far. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "So, the long and short of it--if you have one sysadmin, you have a "system administrator." If you have two sysadmins, you have two "system administrators." If you have two thousand sysadmins, you're at LISA." - Trey Harris <Pine.LNX.4.30.0105091748220.27344-100000(a)shells.valinux.com>

Feb. 23, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Progress and success

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Marie I MacDonald wrote: > Greetings all, HI Marie, It sounds to me like you've made a lot of progress. Keep up the good work! I'm sure you've learned a lot so far. I wish somebody would teach *me* how to use GIMP - I find it the most counterintuitive program I've ever used (and no, I'm not a Photoshop user, either). I understand the print dialog very well (hint: I wrote its manual), but the rest is a frustrating mystery to me. For web radio streams, I have listened to them using XMMS. To capture a stream and write it to an MP3 file, I downloaded a program called streamripper which works rather well. There are probably many other choices. For simple video editing, take a look at avidemux2 (which works on more than AVI files). I use it to cut the commercials out of video streams which were recorded by my TV capture card. Have a lot of fun! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD/bfNHl0iXDssISsRAgDLAJ949J30pALRSpxekQSDic5LfT8oNwCfXCPq Vk7EpJQEVwc3vekMqKbYjIY= =RDLb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Feb. 23, 2006

RE: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh

by Minkov, Ross

> You can put a "*" in the password field of the user and then it's a > locked account, but pubkey will still work. Yes, this works, I use it all the time. Just a note that the "*" needs to go in the /etc/shadow file, not in /etc/passwd. > There's no per-user config to specify what authentication methods are > allowed. It's a global setting. You can specify per user ssh config settings in $USER/.ssh/conifg file. The user's configuration file overwrites the system-wide configuration file (/etc/ssh/ssh_config) settings for that user. Make sure that $USER/.ssh/conifg is owned by $USER and perms are set to 600. For example you can add "PasswordAuthentication no" to $USER/.ssh/conifg and disable password auth for $USER, while leaving "PasswordAuthentication yes" (this is the default) in the system-wide configuration file (/etc/ssh/ssh_config). -Ross -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Theo Van Dinter Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:24 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:15:55PM -0500, Eric Stein wrote: > automated account: public key login only (no password authentication > allowed - yeah, I know I can just set the password to something really > big and hope nobody guesses, but the point of pub/priv key auth is > higher security) You can put a "*" in the password field of the user and then it's a locked account, but pubkey will still work. There's no per-user config to specify what authentication methods are allowed. It's a global setting. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Abnegation is un-American. We're going to drive the vehicle we want, wear what we want, consume as much as necessary, worship whomever we choose, and show as much cleavage as possible in beer commercials." - http://www.fool.com/News/Foth/2003/foth030203.htm?source=EDNWFH

Feb. 23, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Progress and success

by Tim Keller

Marie, For capture software there's a couple of options out there. I've got a fire wire card in my machine so I've been using "Kino" to capture the raw DV off of my camcorder and it works great. It's a basic but functional NLE that supports encoding to mpeg2. I don't have any recommendations for business plan software, though I'm not quite sure what a business plan would look like, I thought it was just a regular document? As for RealPlayer, I haven't touched it in a couple of years, but POS has never really worked that well for me. They came out with the helixplayer, but it was worse than Realplayer! I do listen to a couple of stations via shoutcast (using xmms, which is Linuxes version of winamp) but those tend to be rather hit or miss. Hope that helps! Tim. On 2/22/06, Marie I MacDonald <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Greetings all, > > I thought I'd write and update you on my newbie experience with Linux > et. al. To refresh your memory, my old laptop died just as I had been > given a new Linux box and just before the Spring semester had started. I > really was feeling stressed. But here are some high points of the past > month: > > * Novell distro installed (and reinstalled (twice!) after a > glitch) and updated without a hitch. > * Evolution is now my email client of choice for two reasons: I > couldn't figure out how to install Thunderbird and I wanted to > sync my Palm to something. > * I'm successfully popping all my Gmail and myrealbox accounts (13 > total). I've never seen my filters run so fast (for junk and > legit mail). > * Palm Zire 21 now works beautifully with Evolution. I keep it > simple and don't need more than the personal calendar. > * Open Office installed and updated. I'm using 2.0.1.3 and have > begun using Impress to create a presentation for school. > * I have taken advantage of the desktop functions, using five work > spaces and putting buttons on the tool bars. I love how smoothly > my desktop works and allows me new workspaces. > * Novell client for Linux working beautifully to connect me to the > server upstairs (thanks Bob!) > * I've been playing around with the GIMP image editor and in my > opinion it is as robust as Photoshop (which I know very well). > * I have successfully completed all the Novell Linux Desktop 9 > Learning Center modules. The training was good and I would > recommend it for new users. > * I am successfully running Music Player and copying my CDs to the > network. I can now burn a CD/DVD. > > Here are my observations/complaints: > > * While I've used both YaST and Red Carpet to install programs, > I'd like to see something developed to click and run > installation programs, much like the .exe files most are used > to. Coming from that environment into a Linux environment, this > is critical. If you want to make Linux more attractive for > desktop users, software installation has to be easier. The > average office user *ME* does not know how to work with code and > such to install programs. > * I'm still trying to find video capture and editing software. Any > recommendations? > * Now I also need software to create a business plan. Any > recommendations? > * I would love to listen to radio station web streams. I live in > the boonies and get no radio reception. I do have RealPlayer on > this but so far it hasn't worked for grabbing a radio web > stream. I miss my Boston radio stations. > > Well, that's all I can think of for now. Oh, I did meet a wonderful > teenager from Worcester who is very knowledgeable about Linux. His name > is Stephen and I just wanted to send a shout out to him. I urged him to > joint WLUG--he's a gem. > > Finally, I appreciate everyone here for all the marvelous advice, > encouragement and patience. I consider it an honor to be part of your > group. Thanks for letting me in! > > All my best, > Marie > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leary of the allegiances of any politicians who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 23, 2006

Progress and success

by Marie I MacDonald

Greetings all, I thought I'd write and update you on my newbie experience with Linux et. al. To refresh your memory, my old laptop died just as I had been given a new Linux box and just before the Spring semester had started. I really was feeling stressed. But here are some high points of the past month: * Novell distro installed (and reinstalled (twice!) after a glitch) and updated without a hitch. * Evolution is now my email client of choice for two reasons: I couldn't figure out how to install Thunderbird and I wanted to sync my Palm to something. * I'm successfully popping all my Gmail and myrealbox accounts (13 total). I've never seen my filters run so fast (for junk and legit mail). * Palm Zire 21 now works beautifully with Evolution. I keep it simple and don't need more than the personal calendar. * Open Office installed and updated. I'm using 2.0.1.3 and have begun using Impress to create a presentation for school. * I have taken advantage of the desktop functions, using five work spaces and putting buttons on the tool bars. I love how smoothly my desktop works and allows me new workspaces. * Novell client for Linux working beautifully to connect me to the server upstairs (thanks Bob!) * I've been playing around with the GIMP image editor and in my opinion it is as robust as Photoshop (which I know very well). * I have successfully completed all the Novell Linux Desktop 9 Learning Center modules. The training was good and I would recommend it for new users. * I am successfully running Music Player and copying my CDs to the network. I can now burn a CD/DVD. Here are my observations/complaints: * While I've used both YaST and Red Carpet to install programs, I'd like to see something developed to click and run installation programs, much like the .exe files most are used to. Coming from that environment into a Linux environment, this is critical. If you want to make Linux more attractive for desktop users, software installation has to be easier. The average office user *ME* does not know how to work with code and such to install programs. * I'm still trying to find video capture and editing software. Any recommendations? * Now I also need software to create a business plan. Any recommendations? * I would love to listen to radio station web streams. I live in the boonies and get no radio reception. I do have RealPlayer on this but so far it hasn't worked for grabbing a radio web stream. I miss my Boston radio stations. Well, that's all I can think of for now. Oh, I did meet a wonderful teenager from Worcester who is very knowledgeable about Linux. His name is Stephen and I just wanted to send a shout out to him. I urged him to joint WLUG--he's a gem. Finally, I appreciate everyone here for all the marvelous advice, encouragement and patience. I consider it an honor to be part of your group. Thanks for letting me in! All my best, Marie

Feb. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Meeting followup

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike wrote: > For the curious, here is a not-so-complete list of links that were > mentioned this evening: > > Ubuntu's upcoming Dapper Drake: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+specs > > OpenWRT: > http://openwrt.org/ > http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Asus/WL500G > > SSH Public Key encryption: > http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/excerpt/ssh_8/ > > Dropbear SSH: > http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html > > Gentoo Linux - Satire poster > http://funroll-loops.org/gentoo.jpg > > I'll let Andy send out the rest :) > > Cheers, > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > HI everybody, Mike: thanks for posting these links that were discussed at the WLUG meeting. Everybody: I have just posted the slides from the Routerboard talk. There were about 15 people at the meeting. I received several compliments regarding the presentation, for which I thank you. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD+NiVHl0iXDssISsRAjC9AJ9J96+DO1bmgcKPApLMugvnGlBzsQCeI9ap ZVm9zW5WvO/vIEKdqAW1rN0= =y5qS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Feb. 19, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Keith Wright wrote: > Is anybody else noticing that wlug messages are repeating? Yes Yes - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD9rc2Hl0iXDssISsRAiAfAJ480WmZIoj5yYtm3n5vl1hRoTVqBgCcDvvC s2YsbjuGCEJY/kAgCBM8amM= =Hzc5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Feb. 18, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0

by Keith Wright

Is anybody else noticing that wlug messages are repeating? > From: Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> > > Looks like you're right! > > >From Redhat support: > > If you look in the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ directory you'll > see a number of scripts named ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-eth1, etc... Inside > each of these files you should see a line > HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx. Pluging in the MAC address for the desired > NIC should allow you to specify which card uses which > interface. Restart networking and you should be good to go. > > --- Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 12:41:21PM -0800, Mike Leo wrote: > > > yes, but that will only assign the right mac to the wrong NIC. > > > eth0 will still be assigned to the "extra" nic port, not the one I want. > > > but thanks for replying. > > > > HWADDR doesn't assign MAC addresses to NICs. It just matches the > > NIC device with that hardware address. > > > > MACADDR actually reprograms the MAC used by a NIC. I think he may be right too, but the quote from Redhat actually says he is wrong. Redhat says HWADDR specifies which card goes in that slot; Chuck says MACADDR does it. I guess it depends on what you mean by "specify". I think the HWADDR just gives you error messages when it is wrong, but doesn't actually change the name. It may depend upon your specific version. I think both the kernel and the start-up scripts have been changing the way they do this. Here's what works for me: in /etc/init.d/network add the lines: # Check that networking is up. [ "${NETWORKING}" = "no" ] && exit 0 # set the ethernet names from the MAC addresses nameif || echo "Can not rename ethernet cards" in /etc/mactab: #The eth on the Intel motherboard is for the lan ethlan 00:13:20:1e:5b:1d #The Realtek in the pci slot is for the internet ethdsl 00:50:FC:A7:56:0F try "man nameif" for explanation, and then change mactab to contain the names you like instead of ethlan and ethdsl, the MAC addresses of your cards, and more interesting comments. /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethlan # Intel Corp.|82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller DEVICE=ethlan BOOTPROTO=static BROADCAST=192.168.1.255 HWADDR=00:13:20:1e:5b:1d IPADDR=192.168.1.111 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.1.0 ONBOOT=yes TYPE=Ethernet /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethdsl # Realtek|RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ DEVICE=ethdsl BOOTPROTO=static BROADCAST=66.92.74.255 HWADDR=00:50:FC:A7:56:0F IPADDR=66.92.74.188 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=66.92.74.0 TYPE=Ethernet ONBOOT=no # uname -a Linux fcs12 2.6.9-1.667 #1 Tue Nov 2 14:41:25 EST 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux # cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg) Like I said, it works for me but YMMV, You Might Muck-up your Version. -- -- Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop <http://www.free-comp-shop.com> --- Food, Shelter, Source code. ---

Feb. 18, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0

by Mike Leo

Looks like you're right! >From Redhat support: If you look in the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ directory you'll see a number of scripts named ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-eth1, etc... Inside each of these files you should see a line HWADDR=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx. Pluging in the MAC address for the desired NIC should allow you to specify which card uses which interface. Restart networking and you should be good to go. --- Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 12:41:21PM -0800, Mike Leo wrote: > > yes, but that will only assign the right mac to the wrong NIC. > > eth0 will still be assigned to the "extra" nic port, not the one I want. > > but thanks for replying. > > HWADDR doesn't assign MAC addresses to NICs. It just matches the > NIC device with that hardware address. > > MACADDR actually reprograms the MAC used by a NIC. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 18, 2006

Re: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:15:55PM -0500, Eric Stein wrote: > automated account: public key login only (no password authentication > allowed - yeah, I know I can just set the password to something really > big and hope nobody guesses, but the point of pub/priv key auth is > higher security) You can put a "*" in the password field of the user and then it's a locked account, but pubkey will still work. There's no per-user config to specify what authentication methods are allowed. It's a global setting. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Abnegation is un-American. We're going to drive the vehicle we want, wear what we want, consume as much as necessary, worship whomever we choose, and show as much cleavage as possible in beer commercials." - http://www.fool.com/News/Foth/2003/foth030203.htm?source=EDNWFH

Feb. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh

by Eric Stein

I already know how to do what you guys suggested - example of what I'm looking for: automated account: public key login only (no password authentication allowed - yeah, I know I can just set the password to something really big and hope nobody guesses, but the point of pub/priv key auth is higher security) my personal account: both public key and password auth (for at my computer or not) daemon accounts: shell is /sbin/nologin Eric

Feb. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] running scripts as someone else

by Michael Zarozinski

I ran into a similar problem when getting "hooks" in subversion to work... The shell script was run as "user1" and I needed it to run as "user2" so I wrote a shell script (owned by "user1") that kicked off a small C program which ran the script I need run by "user2". Something along the lines of: #include <stddef.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <unistd.h> int main(void) { execl("/home/user1/script", "script", (const char *) NULL); return(EXIT_FAILURE); } * NOTE: I had no success using "exec", it only worked with "execl" Then make the program and the key is the "chmod +s" gcc test.c -o test chown user2:user2 test chmod +s test Obviously there may be security risks with this method! Hope this helps! Michael Z Mike Leo wrote: >I brought this up last night, but the suggestions did not help. > >Basically i have a "thing" i need to run at boot as someone else. > >init scripts are launched at boot as root, so somewhere in the script, I have to become someone >else to execute this "thing". > >sample thing: > >su -l LNVAPP008SSH -c "/usr/local/bin/ssh2 -p 32497 -R51180:LNVAPP008:80 -l LNVAPP008SSH n2web043" > > >This works just fine when logged in as root or as the LNVAPP008SSH user from the command line. >The ssh has been setup so that this user (LNVAPP008SSH) does not need to pass a password to >initiate the ssh tunnel. > >However, when this is called from a script, it fails trying to look for a password. > >I am surmizing that the script is still acting as root when it makes the ssh connection. When i >put a printenv in the script, it reports me as still being root, not the LNVAPP008SSH user. > >I also have another situation that I need to apply this too. This seems like it should be >something someone else in the world has done before. > >So any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks >Mike >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Feb. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh

by Mike Leo

yes....have only the users you want to use pubkeys generate keys and share the public one by putting it in that users ~/.ssh(2) on each server. ssh-keygen is the command to make the keys. --- Eric Stein <eastein(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > Does anyone know a way to force pubkey authentication for only certain > users but allow password for others? > Eric > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 17, 2006

running scripts as someone else

by Mike Leo

I brought this up last night, but the suggestions did not help. Basically i have a "thing" i need to run at boot as someone else. init scripts are launched at boot as root, so somewhere in the script, I have to become someone else to execute this "thing". sample thing: su -l LNVAPP008SSH -c "/usr/local/bin/ssh2 -p 32497 -R51180:LNVAPP008:80 -l LNVAPP008SSH n2web043" This works just fine when logged in as root or as the LNVAPP008SSH user from the command line. The ssh has been setup so that this user (LNVAPP008SSH) does not need to pass a password to initiate the ssh tunnel. However, when this is called from a script, it fails trying to look for a password. I am surmizing that the script is still acting as root when it makes the ssh connection. When i put a printenv in the script, it reports me as still being root, not the LNVAPP008SSH user. I also have another situation that I need to apply this too. This seems like it should be something someone else in the world has done before. So any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mike

Feb. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] pubkey authentication in openssh

by John Stoffel

Eric> Does anyone know a way to force pubkey authentication for only certain Eric> users but allow password for others? Can you explain what you're trying to do here? I've done some publick key stuff, but mostly for scripts which don't want passwords, and which are restricted to only a subset of commands. If you want to limit the publickey users to only run certain commands that you control, just setup their ~/.ssh2/authorized_keys file properly withthe public key and the locked down command of your choice. The SSH book has some decent examples. John

Feb. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0

by John Stoffel

Mike> I have a RHAS4 2.6 kernel install with 6 NIC's. How do i tell Mike> it which nic I want to be labeled eth0? Udev? Mike> specifically, i have 2 nics built into the mobo, and 2 dual port Mike> addon cards. Mike> I want eth0 to be nic1 on the mobo, and eth1 to be nic2 on the Mike> mobo. What happened to nic0? Ok, I'm being a smartass... :] Mike> By default it is assigning those nics to eth4 and eth5. It's probably due to how the PCI bus get ennumerated. Try using the 'nameif' command to fix which MAC address is bound to which eth* name. You'll probably need to do: udevinfo -a -p /sys/class/net/eth0 and see what shows up. It might be best to do this after setting up all six interfaces (not caring what is where) so you can get their MAC addresses and put them into the table. John

Feb. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0

by Chuck Anderson

On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 12:41:21PM -0800, Mike Leo wrote: > yes, but that will only assign the right mac to the wrong NIC. > eth0 will still be assigned to the "extra" nic port, not the one I want. > but thanks for replying. HWADDR doesn't assign MAC addresses to NICs. It just matches the NIC device with that hardware address. MACADDR actually reprograms the MAC used by a NIC.

Feb. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] MySQL replication question

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding [Wlug] MySQL replication question; Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> adds: bill> Does anyone have experience with MySQL's replication capabilities? bill> I'm running versions 4.1.8 and 4.1.14 servers on linux and windows, bill> and I have a very remote site where I'd like to support replication. bill> The data changes very slowly, but the link has 300 ms (ping) latency bill> and has a small (but noticeable) amount of down time. bill> Does it work well enough to be considered reliable for critical bill> applications? I think you would get a more accurate answer posting on a MySQL list. http://lists.mysql.com/replication -Jeff

Feb. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0; Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> adds: mleo963> yes, but that will only assign the right mac to the wrong NIC. mleo963> eth0 will still be assigned to the "extra" nic port, not the one I mleo963> want. mleo963> but thanks for replying. Hmm, will an alias in /etc/modprobe.conf help, then? For example: alias eth0 tulip This will only work if the ethernet cards use different drivers, obviously. -Jeff mleo963> --- Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: >> ==> Regarding [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0; Mike Leo >> <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> adds: >> mleo963> I have a RHAS4 2.6 kernel install with 6 NIC's. How do i tell it mleo963> which nic I want to be labeled eth0? >> mleo963> specifically, i have 2 nics built into the mobo, and 2 dual port mleo963> addon cards. >> mleo963> I want eth0 to be nic1 on the mobo, and eth1 to be nic2 on the mleo963> mobo. >> mleo963> By default it is assigning those nics to eth4 and eth5. >> You can specify a hardware address in the ifcfg-ethX scripts: >> >> HWADDR=00:04:23:B3:B4:C3 >> >> -Jeff >>

Feb. 17, 2006

pubkey authentication in openssh

by Eric Stein

Does anyone know a way to force pubkey authentication for only certain users but allow password for others? Eric

Feb. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0

by Mike Leo

yes, but that will only assign the right mac to the wrong NIC. eth0 will still be assigned to the "extra" nic port, not the one I want. but thanks for replying. --- Jeff Moyer <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: > ==> Regarding [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0; Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> adds: > > mleo963> I have a RHAS4 2.6 kernel install with 6 NIC's. How do i tell it > mleo963> which nic I want to be labeled eth0? > > mleo963> specifically, i have 2 nics built into the mobo, and 2 dual port > mleo963> addon cards. > > mleo963> I want eth0 to be nic1 on the mobo, and eth1 to be nic2 on the > mleo963> mobo. > > mleo963> By default it is assigning those nics to eth4 and eth5. > > You can specify a hardware address in the ifcfg-ethX scripts: > > HWADDR=00:04:23:B3:B4:C3 > > -Jeff >

Feb. 17, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding [Wlug] Specify which nic gets named eth0; Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> adds: mleo963> I have a RHAS4 2.6 kernel install with 6 NIC's. How do i tell it mleo963> which nic I want to be labeled eth0? mleo963> specifically, i have 2 nics built into the mobo, and 2 dual port mleo963> addon cards. mleo963> I want eth0 to be nic1 on the mobo, and eth1 to be nic2 on the mleo963> mobo. mleo963> By default it is assigning those nics to eth4 and eth5. You can specify a hardware address in the ifcfg-ethX scripts: HWADDR=00:04:23:B3:B4:C3 -Jeff

Feb. 17, 2006

Specify which nic gets named eth0

by Mike Leo

I have a RHAS4 2.6 kernel install with 6 NIC's. How do i tell it which nic I want to be labeled eth0? specifically, i have 2 nics built into the mobo, and 2 dual port addon cards. I want eth0 to be nic1 on the mobo, and eth1 to be nic2 on the mobo. By default it is assigning those nics to eth4 and eth5. thanks in advance... mike

Feb. 17, 2006

MySQL replication question

by Bill Mills-Curran

Does anyone have experience with MySQL's replication capabilities? I'm running versions 4.1.8 and 4.1.14 servers on linux and windows, and I have a very remote site where I'd like to support replication. The data changes very slowly, but the link has 300 ms (ping) latency and has a small (but noticeable) amount of down time. Does it work well enough to be considered reliable for critical applications? TIA, Bill

Feb. 17, 2006

Meeting followup

by Mike

For the curious, here is a not-so-complete list of links that were mentioned this evening: Ubuntu's upcoming Dapper Drake: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+specs OpenWRT: http://openwrt.org/ http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Asus/WL500G SSH Public Key encryption: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/excerpt/ssh_8/ Dropbear SSH: http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html Gentoo Linux - Satire poster http://funroll-loops.org/gentoo.jpg I'll let Andy send out the rest :) Cheers, Mike

Feb. 17, 2006

Reminder: Upcoming WLUG meeting THURSDAY 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Its that time again! The next WLUG meeting will be on Thursday, February 16th at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid Room at WPI in Worcester, MA USA. Directions can be found on the WLUG website. At this meeting, yours truly will give a presentation about getting Linux running on the MikroTik Routerboard 532. I had decided that I wanted to build a silent firewall, no moving parts, running GPL'd software. I used buildroot and Busybox from the embedded Linux world, the Linux kernel (with patches), and the SuSE Firewall scripts, to make a working firewall. The firewall has been up for 13.5 days straight with no discernable problems. It passed a recent screening by nessus. Linux firewall 2.4.30 #12 Sun Jan 22 20:31:58 EST 2006 mips unknown 21:56:47 up 13 days, 12:46, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 I'll bring the box to the meeting and use it in a live demo. I'll have some slides on my laptop as well, which I'll post on the WLUG website afterwards. I also have some items for raffle: 1 Linux Journal magazine from March 2006 (they sent me 2...) Cross Platform GUI Programming with wxWidgets Bruce Perens' Open Source Series Prentice Hall ISBN 0-13-147381-6 Linux Patch Management Bruce Perens' Open Source Series Prentice Hall ISBN 0-13-236675-4 Once the meeting concludes, we'll go to the Tech Pizza restaurant nearby. Oh, BTW, Linux world is coming up in Boston during the first week of April. I've received a couple of emails from the Linux world folks. Does anybody have any interest in representing WLUG at this event? I'd like to go, but it depends on whether or not I can get the time off from work. Are people planning to go, because I think we can get a group discount of some kind. I'll print the emails and bring them to the meeting so we can discuss it. I'll post the info to the list afterwards. See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD8UgRHl0iXDssISsRAgsgAJ9EJLRPyzVvlu+bJAws9R9wlNEUiQCfd/Fc jIhKGn60OhKNLjD2ethRGAE= =KKDx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Feb. 14, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Anyone with Verizon fios?

by Brett Russ

On 2/6/06, Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > Anyone using Verizon FiOS? > > The service looks interesting, but they require their own router. I'm > wondering if that prevents all incoming connections, like ssh? > > Also, the rates they quote on the web page refers to a "bundle > discount", but they don't say what a bundle is. I forwarded your question on to a friend who has it; this is his response: "I have had been using FIOS since last September, and so far so good. They give you a cheap Dlink wired router with the install. Once I had everything up and running I replaced their router with my Linksys wireless router and it has been working with no problems. The bundle discount is for FIOS data and POTs service. I pay $35 for FIOS 5/2 connection and $40 for unlimited local and long distance calling. This gets me a $5 bundle discount so my total is $70 a month plus taxes. So far the service has been great, but I have not had any power failures to test the UPS yet." My comments: if/when they (FIOS) ever get out to where I live, I'd like to stick with my VoicePulse VoIP for $15/mo, bringing the total to $50/mo. However, until there is a good solution for 911, I might have to go with the landline to be safe. Right now, in addition to the $15/mo for all my calling, I pay ~$22/mo just for a metered landline I never use just in case I ever have to call 911. What a waste of $ that is, but still cheaper than doing all calling on a landline plan. BR

Feb. 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Anyone with Verizon fios?

by Jim Dibb

Check here for lots of info http://www.dslreports.com/forum/vzfiber I don't think you're required to use their router. And, I don't think it prevents anything, it's just a standard off-the-shelf home router that's 'certified' to support the speeds. I've looked into it a lot but so far am 'in the dark' as far as being able to get it. Stop by later... On 2/6/06, Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > > Anyone using Verizon FiOS? > > The service looks interesting, but they require their own router. I'm > wondering if that prevents all incoming connections, like ssh? > > Also, the rates they quote on the web page refers to a "bundle > discount", but they don't say what a bundle is. > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 6, 2006

Anyone with Verizon fios?

by Bill Mills-Curran

Anyone using Verizon FiOS? The service looks interesting, but they require their own router. I'm wondering if that prevents all incoming connections, like ssh? Also, the rates they quote on the web page refers to a "bundle discount", but they don't say what a bundle is. Bill

Feb. 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Lee Keyser-Allen

And don't forget to make sure that your HDs are slaved correctly :) On 2/1/06, Dave Coutu <cout(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > Call me silly, but it would also probably help to mount the drive no matter > how you get the drive on a diff/new system. > > Figure out what device the drive is recognized as (i.e. /dev/hda, /devb/hdb, > etc.) and do the following: > > 1) Create a temporary mount point under /mnt > > mkdir /mnt/tmp > > 2) Mount the drive on that mount point. > > mount /dev/hdX /mnt/tmp > > where X is the drive letter assigned to the drive when the system boots. > The system should be smart enough to auto-detect the filesytem type and not > require you to pass options when you try and mount it. > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Frysinger" <vapier(a)gentoo.org> > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Cc: "Michael Zarozinski" <MichaelZ(a)aiguru.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive > > > > On Wednesday 01 February 2006 14:32, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > >> I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 > >> hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data > >> we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I > >> recover the data I need? > > > > uhh why dont you just stick it into another computer, or boot off a livecd > > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Lee Keyser-Allen (lkeyser(a)alum.wpi.edu)

Feb. 2, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Dave Coutu

Call me silly, but it would also probably help to mount the drive no matter how you get the drive on a diff/new system. Figure out what device the drive is recognized as (i.e. /dev/hda, /devb/hdb, etc.) and do the following: 1) Create a temporary mount point under /mnt mkdir /mnt/tmp 2) Mount the drive on that mount point. mount /dev/hdX /mnt/tmp where X is the drive letter assigned to the drive when the system boots. The system should be smart enough to auto-detect the filesytem type and not require you to pass options when you try and mount it. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Frysinger" <vapier(a)gentoo.org> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Cc: "Michael Zarozinski" <MichaelZ(a)aiguru.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive > On Wednesday 01 February 2006 14:32, Michael Zarozinski wrote: >> I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 >> hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data >> we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I >> recover the data I need? > > uhh why dont you just stick it into another computer, or boot off a livecd > -mike

Feb. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Karl Hiramoto

Use a bootable CD, such as gentoo live, or knoppix http://www.knoppix.net/ Copy the stuff over the network.. with the boot CD you can setup a NFS server to do that, or FTP, or scp, rsync, or whatever. If you have the fresh install on a new HD, you should be able to see the 2nd HD. What kind of hd is it? sata, or eide? type "dmesg" on the new system and you should see what the drive got connected as. If you plugeed the old drive as secondary master it would show as /dev/hdc then you could mount the drive with "mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt" If you plugeed the old drive as the first SATA drive it would show as /dev/sda then you could mount the drive with "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" This is assuming you have your data on the first partition. All of your data would be in /mnt Good luck. Michael Zarozinski wrote: > Hi All, > > I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 > hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data > we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I > recover the data I need? > > I've been able to boot to the shell using the install disk and can see > the data I need but that shell doesn't provide access to the network > card so I can copy the data off. > > I tried a fresh install on a new HD but when I attatch the 2nd HD (with > the data I need) I can't see it. Forgive me, I come from the windows > world where just plugging in the old HD would allow me to pull the data > off. > > Any ideas/help/etc is greatly appreciated! > > Michael Z > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > --

Feb. 1, 2006

RE: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey)

When you put the 2nd HDD in the system that you built, did you 'mount' the old drive. The system will not automatically mount the old drive when you install it. Putting it into a working system to access the data is the best way. Yes, windows will automatically mount a new drive if it sees a valid formatted partition, but Linux generally does not. jeff -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Michael Zarozinski Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:32 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive Hi All, I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I recover the data I need? I've been able to boot to the shell using the install disk and can see the data I need but that shell doesn't provide access to the network card so I can copy the data off. I tried a fresh install on a new HD but when I attatch the 2nd HD (with the data I need) I can't see it. Forgive me, I come from the windows world where just plugging in the old HD would allow me to pull the data off. Any ideas/help/etc is greatly appreciated! Michael Z _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Mike Frysinger

On Wednesday 01 February 2006 14:32, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 > hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data > we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I > recover the data I need? uhh why dont you just stick it into another computer, or boot off a livecd -mike

Feb. 1, 2006

Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi All, I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I recover the data I need? I've been able to boot to the shell using the install disk and can see the data I need but that shell doesn't provide access to the network card so I can copy the data off. I tried a fresh install on a new HD but when I attatch the 2nd HD (with the data I need) I can't see it. Forgive me, I come from the windows world where just plugging in the old HD would allow me to pull the data off. Any ideas/help/etc is greatly appreciated! Michael Z

Feb. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic

by Jared Greenwald

Yep, I'm pretty sure that was the graphical installer. Normally, for a stage1 install there is a 60M cd image that boots and has only command-line, but has many drivers that would be needed for a wide range of system installs. This method has an install guide of 7-8 webpages (the handbook) that walk you through everything from installing the basic packages to building a kernel and then setting up grub. The only complicated part is setting the CFLAGS and USE variables. -Jared On 1/31/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I did not try ( or know of) a graphical installer... > > i booted off the "livecd" and walked through the handbook to install....then gave up... > > thanks for the feedback anyway. > > --- Greg Labonte <gbonte(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > > > Just wondering Mike, Did you try using the Graphical installer for > > Gentoo? > > > > > > > On 1/30/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> Am I wrong, or is the gentoo install insanely comlicated? > > >> > > >> Although I did not sit in front of it from start to finish, it > > >> seems like an install takes hours > > >> and hours of work... > > >> > > >> I followed the Handbook (some 80 pages of documentation), which > > >> i'm sure is very accurate and each > > >> step worked as advertised, but in the end it was too much. > > >> > > >> After an install of debian, which takes me less than 20 minutes, > > >> this was too much for my poor > > >> little brain to take, and I eventually gave up. > > >> > > >> In addition to that, I can't for the life of me, get slackware to > > >> consistantly install lilo > > >> correctly during the install. > > >> > > >> Any comments on either of these would be apreciated, however, I am > > >> just writing this to toss my > > >> vote in for a linux install fest as a meeting topic. > > >> > > >> I have no problem bringing in a laptop to show the simple, > > >> eligant, streamlined, 20 minute debian > > >> install, but I would like to also see someone go through a gentoo > > >> install, and assist on a > > >> slackware lilo config...all of which can be done via my laptop if > > >> needed. > > >> > > >> Thanks ! > > >> Mike > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wlug mailing list > > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic

by Mike Leo

I did not try ( or know of) a graphical installer... i booted off the "livecd" and walked through the handbook to install....then gave up... thanks for the feedback anyway. --- Greg Labonte <gbonte(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > Just wondering Mike, Did you try using the Graphical installer for > Gentoo? > > > > On 1/30/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Am I wrong, or is the gentoo install insanely comlicated? > >> > >> Although I did not sit in front of it from start to finish, it > >> seems like an install takes hours > >> and hours of work... > >> > >> I followed the Handbook (some 80 pages of documentation), which > >> i'm sure is very accurate and each > >> step worked as advertised, but in the end it was too much. > >> > >> After an install of debian, which takes me less than 20 minutes, > >> this was too much for my poor > >> little brain to take, and I eventually gave up. > >> > >> In addition to that, I can't for the life of me, get slackware to > >> consistantly install lilo > >> correctly during the install. > >> > >> Any comments on either of these would be apreciated, however, I am > >> just writing this to toss my > >> vote in for a linux install fest as a meeting topic. > >> > >> I have no problem bringing in a laptop to show the simple, > >> eligant, streamlined, 20 minute debian > >> install, but I would like to also see someone go through a gentoo > >> install, and assist on a > >> slackware lilo config...all of which can be done via my laptop if > >> needed. > >> > >> Thanks ! > >> Mike > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] getting that cpu to sleep ...

by Jamie Guinan

Hi, I just joined the list and was looking through some of the archives. > I have a question for those linux programmers out there. i'm writing > a program on linux (kubuntu to be specific) that requires > high-precision timing, somewhere on the order of 100 to 1000 micro > seconds. <snip> > The problem with this approach is that the process uses 99% of the > CPU since it just spins the CPU until enough time has expired. You can get up to 1/8192Hz (122us) periodic interrupts with the x86 RTC timer. You might have to do a little setup, like, # modprobe rtc # echo 8192 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq [ fiddle permissions on /dev/misc/rtc or /dev/rtc unless you are running your app as root ] See Documentation/rtc.txt in the kernel source for programming details. Basically the kernel is free to idle or run other things until the RTC interrupt hits, then it wakes up your app doing read() or poll() on /dev/rtc. I used this to pulse a hardware register in a project I did a few years ago, worked good enough for my purposes. You might lose an RTC interrupt here and there if your system is under heavy load (call it "soft realtime"), but I think the interface tells you if and how many you lost. There's also the more advanced HPET timer available for newer x86 systems, but I haven't looked at that yet. Good luck, -Jamie Guinan

Jan. 30, 2006

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic

by Jared Greenwald

I tried it when it came out and it didn't really seem to simplify installation at all. It was just a graphical representation of the actions normally performed on the command-line. Has it changed since then? -Jared On 1/30/06, Colin Wilson <cwilson(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > I have used the graphical gentoo install a few times, the last time I > looked at it it was still in Beta and it did not work perfectly. That > might have changed at this point, but I doubt that because it was more > of a small side project than anything else. > > -- > Colin Wilson > Secretary WPI Cycling > www.wpi.edu/~cwilson > 617.899.1242 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 30, 2006

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic

by Colin Wilson

I have used the graphical gentoo install a few times, the last time I looked at it it was still in Beta and it did not work perfectly. That might have changed at this point, but I doubt that because it was more of a small side project than anything else. -- Colin Wilson Secretary WPI Cycling www.wpi.edu/~cwilson 617.899.1242

Jan. 30, 2006

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic

by Greg Labonte

Just wondering Mike, Did you try using the Graphical installer for Gentoo? > On 1/30/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Am I wrong, or is the gentoo install insanely comlicated? >> >> Although I did not sit in front of it from start to finish, it >> seems like an install takes hours >> and hours of work... >> >> I followed the Handbook (some 80 pages of documentation), which >> i'm sure is very accurate and each >> step worked as advertised, but in the end it was too much. >> >> After an install of debian, which takes me less than 20 minutes, >> this was too much for my poor >> little brain to take, and I eventually gave up. >> >> In addition to that, I can't for the life of me, get slackware to >> consistantly install lilo >> correctly during the install. >> >> Any comments on either of these would be apreciated, however, I am >> just writing this to toss my >> vote in for a linux install fest as a meeting topic. >> >> I have no problem bringing in a laptop to show the simple, >> eligant, streamlined, 20 minute debian >> install, but I would like to also see someone go through a gentoo >> install, and assist on a >> slackware lilo config...all of which can be done via my laptop if >> needed. >> >> Thanks ! >> Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 30, 2006

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic

by Jared Greenwald

I have Gentoo on my notebook and it works great! I especially like the fact that the package that has my wireless card in it (orinoco_usb) was written so that it will automatically download the cvs HEAD and build that so I get the most up to date driver. I've had this installed for about a year and it only took about a day to install it, but that was mostly due to the fact that I choose the stage1 install, which isn't the main documented installation method anymore (stage3 is now). Its not that its hours and hours of work - its more like a little research up front and a hours of entering data in here and there (at least in my experience). If you're going for ease of install and use I would def have to throw my hat in the ubuntu ring. Kubuntu is about the easiest install I've seen. -Jared On 1/30/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Am I wrong, or is the gentoo install insanely comlicated? > > Although I did not sit in front of it from start to finish, it seems like an install takes hours > and hours of work... > > I followed the Handbook (some 80 pages of documentation), which i'm sure is very accurate and each > step worked as advertised, but in the end it was too much. > > After an install of debian, which takes me less than 20 minutes, this was too much for my poor > little brain to take, and I eventually gave up. > > In addition to that, I can't for the life of me, get slackware to consistantly install lilo > correctly during the install. > > Any comments on either of these would be apreciated, however, I am just writing this to toss my > vote in for a linux install fest as a meeting topic. > > I have no problem bringing in a laptop to show the simple, eligant, streamlined, 20 minute debian > install, but I would like to also see someone go through a gentoo install, and assist on a > slackware lilo config...all of which can be done via my laptop if needed. > > Thanks ! > Mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 30, 2006

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic

by Mike Frysinger

On Monday 30 January 2006 09:30, Mike Leo wrote: > Am I wrong, or is the gentoo install insanely comlicated? > > Although I did not sit in front of it from start to finish, it seems like > an install takes hours and hours of work... > > I followed the Handbook (some 80 pages of documentation), which i'm sure is > very accurate and each step worked as advertised, but in the end it was too > much. well, the from-source Gentoo install is arguably supposed to be fun like that it's been a while since i installed Gentoo using released media, but i'm pretty sure doing an install with just GRP packages would make it a lot faster ... > After an install of debian, which takes me less than 20 minutes, this was > too much for my poor little brain to take, and I eventually gave up. doesnt debian have its own installer though ? the Gentoo one is coming along, but it hasnt had the time to mature as other distros have ... -mike

Jan. 30, 2006

meeting topic

by Mike Leo

Am I wrong, or is the gentoo install insanely comlicated? Although I did not sit in front of it from start to finish, it seems like an install takes hours and hours of work... I followed the Handbook (some 80 pages of documentation), which i'm sure is very accurate and each step worked as advertised, but in the end it was too much. After an install of debian, which takes me less than 20 minutes, this was too much for my poor little brain to take, and I eventually gave up. In addition to that, I can't for the life of me, get slackware to consistantly install lilo correctly during the install. Any comments on either of these would be apreciated, however, I am just writing this to toss my vote in for a linux install fest as a meeting topic. I have no problem bringing in a laptop to show the simple, eligant, streamlined, 20 minute debian install, but I would like to also see someone go through a gentoo install, and assist on a slackware lilo config...all of which can be done via my laptop if needed. Thanks ! Mike

Jan. 30, 2006

JOB: Seeking Unix SysAdmin

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everybody, If you are interested in the following job opportunity, please reply directly to bburns(a)m-Qube.com (Barbara Burns). =====start===== m-Qube, located in Boston, is the premiere mobile messaging management technology company in America and we operate a high-volume wireless messaging ASP. We are currently conducting a search for an experienced Systems Administrator who will be responsible for keeping this Linux/Java/J2EE-based server environment monitored and operational on a 24X7 basis. Responsibilities * Server Administration and Management 1. Configuration, administration and tuning of a high-performance Linux computing environment including new server deployment and setup 2. Develop and maintain scripts for monitoring and automation of periodic jobs 3. Provide problem isolation and resolution using software and diagnostics and/or crash/dump analysis 4. Administration of archive and backup systems 5. Perform ongoing capacity planning activities based on company growth 6. Serve as a system admin knowledge resource for persons throughout the organization 7. Available 24x7 for system emergencies * SAN Storage Administration 1. Maintain existing SAN storage infrastructure 2. Add and reconfigure storage to meet demands of the business 3. Use SAN technology to create backups for disaster recovery * Network Administration 1. Manage network devices including switches, routers and load balancers 2. Resolve issues with network 3. Review logs and run periodic health checks on infrastructure Qualifications: You must have extensive hands-on experience in a high-availability Linux environment with Apache, JBOSS, load balancing and SSL configurations. Your added assets will be an understanding of application programming in Java/JSP, Perl/Javascript or XML interfaces. You have some experience maintaining Cisco network equipment. Candidate must have strong work ethic and possess the ability to perform under time constraints in a dynamic environment. Managing multiple priorities while completing them simultaneously is a basic requirement.The individual must possess excellent skills in troubleshooting complex network environments and devices on his/her own. Experience: Qualified candidates should posses experience in the following: Enterprise-class Linux environments with 5 years of experience Experience with Linux server technologies including NFS, NIS, LDAP, kickstart, etc. Familiarity with engineering tools such as CVS and Bugzilla Proficient in scripting including PERL, Shell, Awk or Sed Extensive operations experience including o Experience analyzing and resolving problems associated with server hardware, server operating system and applications software o Capacity to perform a wide variety of tasks in software/hardware maintenance and operational support of server systems o Strong knowledge and experience with backup policies and emergency recovery procedures Some experience working with the following is preferred: Routing protocol and router administration Maintenance of Java, XML and SQL web applications Education: BS degree in Information Systems or related area desired Please respond directly to Barbara Burns at bburns(a)m-qube.com 617.673.2474 =====end===== - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFD1wKJHl0iXDssISsRApOuAJ4kiKrElcrpiUpcBzlkb03eJxRS/QCfcvE4 i/EIPwzBA5NOL60i3UnW8dQ= =XuEN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 25, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Ftp directory mapping

by Justin Odom

FuseFTP looks like it would be able to do what you are looking for. http://wiki.thiesen.org/page/Fuseftp -Justin Aramico wrote: > > > Dear All, > > is it possibe to do mounting for remote ftp directory into a defined > drive? > for example, i would like to mount my ftp directry ( ftp://mysite.com) > to directory /mount/ftp_mysite.com > where then I can save or take the file directly from this defined > directory ? > > > cheers, > > Aramico > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 24, 2006

Ftp directory mapping

by Aramico

Dear All, is it possibe to do mounting for remote ftp directory into a defined drive? for example, i would like to mount my ftp directry ( ftp://mysite.com) to directory /mount/ftp_mysite.com where then I can save or take the file directly from this defined directory ? cheers, Aramico

Jan. 24, 2006

Re: Rough upgrade to FC4

by Larry Underhill

On Sun, 2006-01-22 at 22:13 -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I feel lucky that I didn't brick my system. What did I do wrong? > This must be a common occurance. I have another system that I need to > upgrade, but I don't want it to go like this. What's a better way? Hey there Bill. Sorry to hear about your upgrade woes. On my fedora boxen, I avoid up2date. (although I have had great experience with it on the RHEL distro with Red Hat Network) I'm a big fan of yum. I think Seth Vidal has done a great job with it and I have used it to upgrade several systems. I have taken one box (standard LAMP stuff) from FC1 => FC4 with no problems. After a backup of /var and /home, my general procedure is to: a) 'yum update' my box to ensure latest/greatest from the Fedora Base and Fedora Updates repositories. b) manually install fedora-release RPM. c) manually install yum rpm for the release (in your case FC4) that you are upgrade to. d) double check that I have GPG check enabled in my yum config files and I also have the correct keys on my ring. e) do a sanity check that I have good network connectivity to the remote repository that I am going to pull my RPMs from (personally, I've settled on mirrors.kernel.org) f) yum upgrade g) review the list of packages it marks for upgrade and the associated dependency checking for sanity. h) cross fingers. hit 'Y'. go get coffee. Best of luck, --Larry

Jan. 23, 2006

Re: Rough upgrade to FC4

by Matthew Gillen

Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Running up2date did not help -- I was still in an FC3 system (kind of). > > I manually installed the FC4 kernel and ran up2date again, but it was > stuck on many packages, because up2date only wanted to freshen > existing rpm's -- it didn't want to add any new ones to solve > dependencies. That's why you're almost always better off using 'yum' instead of 'up2date'. Yum is smart enough to track down and install dependencies for you. I would abandon using up2date unless you're using RedHat Enterprise Linux (which you're obviously not). You'd still have the same problem with yum that you had with up2date regarding the "system thinks it's FC3 instead of FC4" issue (hint: manually update an rpm by the name of "fedora-release") --Matt

Jan. 23, 2006

Re: Rough upgrade to FC4

by Matthew Gillen

Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I feel lucky that I didn't brick my system. What did I do wrong? > This must be a common occurance. I have another system that I need to > upgrade, but I don't want it to go like this. What's a better way? You didn't do anything wrong, you just took an unexpected upgrade path. In the future though, you may find these guys helpful: http://fedora.isphuset.no/ They rebuild the install ISO images periodically *with* the latest updates. Their main point is to reduce update-time after you install, but I think you discovered an even more compelling reason for them to do what they're doing. Note: those are unofficial images. That said, I've used them and they worked fine for me. --Matt

Jan. 23, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Rough upgrade to FC4

by Chuck Anderson

On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 10:13:27PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I just upgraded to FC4 from FC3 and I had some troubles that should > not have happened. My FC3 system was current with updates, and I used > downloaded ISO's from fedora. The problem was that many of the FC3 > packages were more up to date than the FC4 packages, so the upgrade > did not install them. This included the kernel. I felt lucky that I > had a workable system. This this is a known problem. glibc in FC3 was updated to one newer than any available glibc for FC4, causing most of the system to not upgrade. > Running up2date did not help -- I was still in an FC3 system (kind of). Try using 'yum update' instead. up2date is not really being maintained as the way forward, and it isn't beat on as heavily as yum. Also, try first removing all old kernels, leaving just the newest (2.6.12-1.1381_FC3), and manually downgrade glibc to the latest FC4 one. > I feel lucky that I didn't brick my system. What did I do wrong? > This must be a common occurance. I have another system that I need to > upgrade, but I don't want it to go like this. What's a better way? Yeah, the maintainer of the glibc package doesn't think this is important enough to fix right away: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=172823 It seems that the Fedora developers now recommend re-installs as opposed to upgrades, which is a shame since Fedora Core and Red Hat Linux before it were always known for their stellar upgradeability. Hopefully with the formation of the Fedora Foundation, more and more of Fedora Core itself will be community-maintained, where people who care about such things as upgradeability can make sure that goal is maintained.

Jan. 23, 2006

Re: Rough upgrade to FC4

by Joshua D. Abraham

On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 10:24:43PM -0500, nmeyers(a)javalinux.net wrote: > On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 10:13:27PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > I just upgraded to FC4 from FC3 and I had some troubles that should > > not have happened. My FC3 system was current with updates, and I used > > downloaded ISO's from fedora. The problem was that many of the FC3 > > packages were more up to date than the FC4 packages, so the upgrade > > did not install them. This included the kernel. I felt lucky that I > > had a workable system. > > Sorry to hear things haven't gotten any better since my days as > an RH user (pre-RH9). I never experienced a smooth upgrade; sometimes > had to just rebuild the system. > Agreed. I have been using Redhat since 6.2. I had partitions setup the following way /boot / swap /home /usr/local/ This way I can keep the users data and just install a new system over it. I think that Debian's method of package management is the best of any of the Linux Distro's. I a year ago I switched from FC3 to Ubuntu because Ubuntu has a 6 month release cycle, similar to FC and Ubuntu pays individuals to fix security vulnerabilities. --Josh > I drifted from RH to Mandrake (pre-Mandriva) and then to Gentoo. > Though not without the occasional bump, I've found Gentoo's approach to > package management the least violent of them all. > > Nathan > > > > > Running up2date did not help -- I was still in an FC3 system (kind of). > > > > I manually installed the FC4 kernel and ran up2date again, but it was > > stuck on many packages, because up2date only wanted to freshen > > existing rpm's -- it didn't want to add any new ones to solve > > dependencies. > > > > After much arm-wrestling (floundering?), I gave up on the GUI up2date > > and ran with the command line, feeding it chunks of rpms that needed > > updating. > > > > I feel lucky that I didn't brick my system. What did I do wrong? > > This must be a common occurance. I have another system that I need to > > upgrade, but I don't want it to go like this. What's a better way? > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss(a)blu.org > > http://olduvai.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss(a)blu.org > http://olduvai.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Jan. 23, 2006

Rough upgrade to FC4

by Bill Mills-Curran

I just upgraded to FC4 from FC3 and I had some troubles that should not have happened. My FC3 system was current with updates, and I used downloaded ISO's from fedora. The problem was that many of the FC3 packages were more up to date than the FC4 packages, so the upgrade did not install them. This included the kernel. I felt lucky that I had a workable system. Running up2date did not help -- I was still in an FC3 system (kind of). I manually installed the FC4 kernel and ran up2date again, but it was stuck on many packages, because up2date only wanted to freshen existing rpm's -- it didn't want to add any new ones to solve dependencies. After much arm-wrestling (floundering?), I gave up on the GUI up2date and ran with the command line, feeding it chunks of rpms that needed updating. I feel lucky that I didn't brick my system. What did I do wrong? This must be a common occurance. I have another system that I need to upgrade, but I don't want it to go like this. What's a better way? Thanks, Bill

Jan. 23, 2006

Re: [Wlug] SSH Tunneling?

by Mike Frysinger

On Friday 20 January 2006 14:28, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > I'm in the process of moving a web site, msql db, and some game daemons > to a new server. While the DNS transfer is in process we want all > traffic to go to the new server. I've been told this can be done vial > ssh tunnels but don't have any experience.... can anyone point me in the > right direction? read `man ssh` ... then when the directions are a little hard to grok, use these examples: ssh -L 1234:localhost:25 vapier(a)wh0rd.org -N -f this will create a ssh tunnel from my localhost:1234 to remote wh0rd.org:25 and after authentication is finished, the ssh process will detach > Do I need to set up a tunnel for every port on the old > server (the games open ports)? How is it set up to run all the time? Do > I need to mess with sshd_config? i'm pretty sure ssh can only tunnel tcp ports, not udp, so you'd be out of luck ... also, all communication would be encrypted, so you would see a perf hit in terms of how much data you can move -mike

Jan. 22, 2006

Subject: Re: [Wlug] Trial By Fire

by Tom Misilo

for all mozilla packages visit their project dir heres a link for thunderbird http://suse.cs.utah.edu/projects/mozilla/thunderbird/1.5/ for all the mozilla stuff http://suse.cs.utah.edu/projects/mozilla/ Tom > On 1/21/06, Marie MacDonald <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Do downloadable software packages for Linux come with intallers? > > It depends. Many do but some require a few more steps. If you stick > with installing SW via yast, you'll have the easiest time. > > > Can anyone help with advice for YaSt? Is my issue with the Thunderbird > > 1.5 package perhaps? > > Perhaps the recent Novell distro is different, but I've never seen > Thunderbird in the Yast repository (I'm still using SuSE 9.3). > Anytime I want Firefox or Thunderbird, I go direct to > http://www.mozilla.com and download it there. What you download there > has an installer built in. > > > Quite frankly if it's this hard (frustrating!) to install software, I'm > > not gonna be a happy gal. I still have other things I want to add to > > this snappy little computer (i.e. my Palm) but darn there's gotta be an > > easier way. Spring semester starts 26 January and I need this up and > > running. > > You sound determined and that's probably the most important trait for > someone trying to stick with Linux. Stick with YaST as much as > possible and post here for other specific questions--we'll get you > through. > > BR

Jan. 22, 2006

Perl Unicode question

by Skip Gaede

Folks, I'm trying to understand how Unicode works in Perl 5.8.7, and things are not working the way they're described in perluniintro. In particular, I have a file encoded in UTF-8 from Perl, that I want to convert to Windows Unicode (UCS-16LE). The intro provides this snippet for converting from one character set to another: open(my $nihongo, '<:encoding(iso2022-jp)', 'text.jis'); open(my $unicode, '>:utf8', 'text.utf8'); while (<$nihongo>) { print $unicode } When I try that, substituting UTF-8 and ':encoding(UTF-16LE)', I get no warnings, but the output has twice as many characters as it should have and they are all NULLs. I can supply a my UTF-8 file if anyone wants to have a try. In particular, I think the fact that I have embedded apostrophes (0x27) encoded as RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK (0x2019) may be part of the problem. Thanks, Skip

Jan. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Trial By Fire

by Jared Greenwald

If you're not particularly married to SuSE, I'd say to give ubuntu a try. It has about the best package management out there (second only to Gentoo's portage, imho). On 1/21/06, Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > On 1/21/06, Marie MacDonald <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Do downloadable software packages for Linux come with intallers? > > It depends. Many do but some require a few more steps. If you stick > with installing SW via yast, you'll have the easiest time. > > > Can anyone help with advice for YaSt? Is my issue with the Thunderbird > > 1.5 package perhaps? > > Perhaps the recent Novell distro is different, but I've never seen > Thunderbird in the Yast repository (I'm still using SuSE 9.3). > Anytime I want Firefox or Thunderbird, I go direct to > http://www.mozilla.com and download it there. What you download there > has an installer built in. > > > Quite frankly if it's this hard (frustrating!) to install software, I'm > > not gonna be a happy gal. I still have other things I want to add to > > this snappy little computer (i.e. my Palm) but darn there's gotta be an > > easier way. Spring semester starts 26 January and I need this up and > > running. > > You sound determined and that's probably the most important trait for > someone trying to stick with Linux. Stick with YaST as much as > possible and post here for other specific questions--we'll get you > through. > > BR > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 21, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Trial By Fire

by Brett Russ

On 1/21/06, Marie MacDonald <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Do downloadable software packages for Linux come with intallers? It depends. Many do but some require a few more steps. If you stick with installing SW via yast, you'll have the easiest time. > Can anyone help with advice for YaSt? Is my issue with the Thunderbird > 1.5 package perhaps? Perhaps the recent Novell distro is different, but I've never seen Thunderbird in the Yast repository (I'm still using SuSE 9.3). Anytime I want Firefox or Thunderbird, I go direct to http://www.mozilla.com and download it there. What you download there has an installer built in. > Quite frankly if it's this hard (frustrating!) to install software, I'm > not gonna be a happy gal. I still have other things I want to add to > this snappy little computer (i.e. my Palm) but darn there's gotta be an > easier way. Spring semester starts 26 January and I need this up and > running. You sound determined and that's probably the most important trait for someone trying to stick with Linux. Stick with YaST as much as possible and post here for other specific questions--we'll get you through. BR

Jan. 21, 2006

Trial By Fire

by Marie MacDonald

Greetings All! You may recall a while back I was asking questions about Linux laptops and video capture and editing software for Linux As luck would have it, I was given a shiny new (well, slightly used) Linux desktop compuer. It is running the Novell distro (see I'm learning!!) and I'm loving it. As fate would have it, my laptop died two days ago and this Linux system is all I have left. I no longer have the luxury of time to fiddle and learn. I am working my way through that Novell Linux Desktop free online training, but for some reason that's not allowing me to log in. That's not my question though. No matter how hard I try, I can't install software. I have read the manual and I know how to log in to the root system and activate YaST. I was trying to install Thunderbird 1.5. But I'm enjoying using Evolution, so perhaps I'll forgo Thunderbird for now. I just could not get YaST to recognize or "see" the Thunderbird package. I even figured out "change source of installation", all to no avail. Do downloadable software packages for Linux come with intallers? Can anyone help with advice for YaSt? Is my issue with the Thunderbird 1.5 package perhaps? Quite frankly if it's this hard (frustrating!) to install software, I'm not gonna be a happy gal. I still have other things I want to add to this snappy little computer (i.e. my Palm) but darn there's gotta be an easier way. Spring semester starts 26 January and I need this up and running. Thanks for any advice, support, shoulders to cry on Marie mimsresearch(a)gmail.com

Jan. 21, 2006

SSH Tunneling?

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi all, I'm in the process of moving a web site, msql db, and some game daemons to a new server. While the DNS transfer is in process we want all traffic to go to the new server. I've been told this can be done vial ssh tunnels but don't have any experience.... can anyone point me in the right direction? Do I need to set up a tunnel for every port on the old server (the games open ports)? How is it set up to run all the time? Do I need to mess with sshd_config? Any and all help is appreciated! Thanx! Michael Z

Jan. 20, 2006

For Sale: Alpha PWS 600AU

by Phillip G Deneault

600mhz Alpha with 384megs of ram. On board sound and LAN. This is a REAL AU model, with the qlogic SCSI card and the powerstorm video card(in case you wanted to run OpenVMS). I would recommend using a different video card or using the serial console for anything BSD or Linux. I believe it has a 9 gig SCSI disk in it, but I've suplemented it with a 50gig IDE drive on the IDE chain. I've also replaced the IDE CD-ROM with an 68-pin SCSI CD-ROM(yes, thats right, 68-pin). I also have all the original docs with it. I installed OpenBSD 3.8 on it to verify everything works. $100 bucks or best offer(I'm flexible on the price). If anyone has any questions, or wishes to haggle, please reply to me(and not the list, they hate that). I'm just trying to find it a good home. Thanks, Phil

Jan. 19, 2006

Numerous Linux job opportunities

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, I'm posting these job opportunities on behalf of John Spencer (jspencer(a)optimaleng.com) Please contact John directly if you have any interest in these opportunities. Andy =====start===== Multiple Linux Contract openings in MA ********************************************************** 1) 6 Months+ in the Wilmington, MA area Responsibilities: As a senior member of the core routing platform group you will be responsible for developing forwarding engine device drivers for next generation enterprise products. Drivers will be developed in C on a Linux platform running on MAC and Layer 1 & 2 chipsets. Required Skills & Experiences: * Strong device driver development experience in C/Linux environments * Solid Ethernet and Layer 2 and Layer 3 protocol experience * Experience with either MAC or other Layer 1 & 2 chipsets highly desired - --------------------------------------------------------------- 2) 2 months+, Billerica MA area Our client needs a contractor for 1-3 months. Responsibilities include: development of new code, bug fixing and maintenance of existing code, porting and integration of new drivers Skills sets required: Expert level proficiency of writing code in C/C++, embedded Linux OS (MontaVista), kernel internals, device drivers, system integration, debugging Technologies: Networking protocols, data communications, embedded SNMP agent, wireless protocols (madWiFi) Experience: minimum 10 years - -------------------------------- 3) 6 months, Acton, MA Area (2 positions) Our customer is looking for 2 software Linux Development Engineers to work in conjunction with the hardware design team to build an interface to their backplane. Will be working closely with development team in Taiwan who is doing most of the work. Ability to speak mandarin a plus but not required. 1st opening: Must have experience with Linux Device driver kernel, C programming, ability to write device driver to interface to the FPGA, knowledgeable about performance issues, Ethernet knowledge important. 6-8 months. 2nd opening: Linux Driver Systems software experience; responsible for device driver and user space Unix daemons that need modifications to run on this board. For this position, person must have FW BIOS (they are hoping the ODM will do this work but this person may need to work closely with them). Both of these positions need consultant to be flexible, willing to participate with ODM conference calls in Taiwan and their is a 13 hr. time difference. This is part of a large development effort for a new blade for their x-services product which is being mainly developed through Taiwan. - --------------------------------- 4) 3 months+, Marlboro, MA area Our client needs a strong C++ coder who is comfortable on Linux systems within the application space. to do a mix of sustaining and new development for disk to disk storage. Strong familiarity with Distributed systems highly desirable. Storage or back-up experience required. - ---------------------------------- 5) 6 months+, Waltham, MA area This is a Linux low level (close to the hardware) drivers req. Scope of Responsibilities/Expectations Mid/Senior level software developer responsible for design and development of user mode device drivers and system utilities of Broadcom or Sigma Designs chips (little Indian MIPs based) platforms based on the Linux operating system. * Candidate is expected to have a history of design and implementation of Linux device-drivers and system utilities in a fast paced environment * Knowledge of Digital STBs, especially experience with Cable Card development is desirable Specifics: * 5+ years experience with C, C++ or assembly-language programming for Linux and/or Unix targets. * 3+ years experience designing, developing and implementing Linux and/or Unix device drivers. * The candidate must be adaptable, flexible and willing to take on new challenges. * The candidate must be a team player, and must be able to work with multiple engineering and cross-functional teams. Additional Desirable Skills * Experienced in developing software for MIPS targets. * Experienced with Multi-media processing - including MPEG2, MP3 and JPEG * Experienced with hardware features such as CPU/memory architectures, DMA engines, Boot loaders, I2C, PCI, Ethernet, USB, IEEE-1394, RS-232, etc. Experienced in developing software to interface Cable Cards into digital STBs - ----------------------------------- 6) 6 months+, Westford MA *Position:* Senior Embedded Software engineer for 6 months, temp. to perm. likelihood *Essential Responsibilities and Duties:* Responsible for architecting, designing, and developing protocols and system software for customer's Optical and Cable broadband access products. Customer is bringing up a brand new board and for that effort they need someone that can write Linux hardware drivers (currently using v2.6) for a variety of different devices. *Required skills, knowledge and abilities*: Experience with C/C++ in an embedded development environment for networking equipment (routers, switches) is required. Experience with VxWorks, and Embedded Linux RTOS is preferred. Must have current experience writing Linux hardware drivers. Networking Industry experience spanning the breadth and depth of Layer Two to Layer Four - from VLAN, Bridging, Switching, DHCP, IP, TCP, UDP, and Multicast applications. Experience developing data-path for communication protocols and NPUs is a plus but not required - ------------------------------------- 7) 6 months+, Bedford, MA area Immediate need for Linux expert to write drivers at OS level for a Service processor. Lots of work going on in this group. The current tasks on the Linux based Service Processor that a contractor would concentrate are ; implementing CLI commands and API functions which maybe transparent calls to Linux OS functions. Other functions that need to be implemented are; supporting networking status and configuration, sensor monitoring, log collection/protection/storage, and field escalation/service mode features. If you are interested and qualified in any of these openings, please forward your confidential resume to jspencer(a)optimaleng.com Please note, your resume will not go anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John Spencer jspencer(a)optimaleng.com =====end===== - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDzZYvHl0iXDssISsRAhOrAJ9IslSUPlOjzguhTHlFvlCnNeHVYwCcDBfV CYxMc3jp5HPP/Rt0zssOtCs= =TyQA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 18, 2006

Implementing Samba To Access MSA 1000 with 2.4 Terrabyte storage

by Aramico

All, is anyone of you have the experience with HP MSA 1000 2.4 Terrabyte SCSI hardrive that accessed using samba for its distribution access to several server ? The samba is in linux RHEL AS/ES on HP DL 360 G4P. How is the performance ?? In this case,which one is better, mapping drive using windows or samba ? with best regards, Aramico

Jan. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] google video...

by John Stoffel

Clint> Oh god! I thought that had finally died... I'm just impressed that he spent that much time getting it all in sync. It's a great example of the focus some people can bring to a project, which I can't help to match even if I tried. John

Jan. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] encrypted files

by Stephen C. Daukas

Chuck hit the nail on the head... The general question that is best to begin with is 'what do you want to protect and what is it worth?' The common metaphor used in security is 'how much does it cost to build the wall versus the value of what the wall protects.' In other words, long keys and the time to encrypt/decrypt, etc., etc., is probably not what you want for your everyday files. It this really is required for everyday files, you are into a model similar to what government agencies do (google "Orange Book" - the nickname for the US standards for computing security - at least when I was into this stuff - but the concepts remain the same). If there are a few things that are really vital, then compartmentalize them and apply lots of security to them (i.e., don't keep them on a hard drive that is on a network - physical security - or encrypt them on removable media - soft and physical security). Depending on what the value is, you can start getting into all kinds of systems that are a real pain to use (and that is another reason why they are more secure). There are lots of other ways to make security easier and still useful. Another approach is "something you have and something you know" - that is how ATMs work. You could put your rings on a thumb drive (like the ATM card) that you unlock with a simple key (pin) that gets you to the next step - using the ring for the encryption you were after to begin with. Retinal and finger print scanners (biometrics in general) are essentially this model. If you loose either piece of the system, the other is no longer useful. Another approach is a so-called "smart card" - these are used in Europe for money, but variations are also used to turn the "key" into something approaching a "one time pad"... The card calculates a decay sequence of some sort (a non-linear countdown with a seed you select) that is also calculated on the system you want access to. You type in the calculated value as *part* of the password (valid for say 5 seconds to allow for boundary conditions) and if the system has the same pattern - your are in. I personally think encrypting entire file systems is far less secure than you might think - it is better to protect several areas with several different methods so that compromise of the entire system with one successful attempt doesn't happen. To be honest with you, my bias is towards physical security - I use a thumb drive and then only parts of it are encrypted. Steve Chuck Anderson wrote: >On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 06:22:53PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > >>Symmetric? (gpg -c) This seems the most secure and flexible, but I'm >>getting tired of typing the key so often. >> >>Public/private? This seems enticing, because encryption is done >>without needing to type a password. However, the keyring is on the >>same system as the encrypted file, and thus is vulnerable. >> >> > >Symmetric keys may be more secure with a caveat: you have to pick a >very good key. This is harder than it seems, since it should be long >and have lots of entropy. English text doesn't have much entropy per >character. So in practice, using a passphrase to unlock a good, long, >randomly generated key that you would never remember is better. You >can always store the keyring on a removable device, like a USB flash >drive and keep that in your safe... >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >

Jan. 14, 2006

Re: [Wlug] RedHat ISOs

by Theo Van Dinter

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 08:02:45AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > > Friends, any idea where can I download the isos for RHEL AS 4, ES 4 ? > You probably can't, since those are RedHat's "for money only" releases. > Yes, they are still open source, You can download the source, but no > ISOs are available. Yeah, that's pretty much it. My understanding is that the ISOs are only available via RHN's Easy ISO area. I don't recall if you can get a RHN account without purchasing some version of RHEL, but I'd guess not. > Another option is White Box Linux, a distro based on the RedHat source > code. There's also CentOS. I believe both of them essentially take the source rpms, change any appropriate bits, and redistribute. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Futurama is brought to you by Thompson's Teeth, the only teeth strong enough to eat other teeth.

Jan. 14, 2006

Re: [Wlug] google video...

by Clint Moyer

Oh god! I thought that had finally died... ---- "Keller wrote: > Last night I had mentioned the Christmas light display. > Open Browser > Goto google video and search for "Christmas Lights" it'll be the first > result returned. > > Tim. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 13, 2006

google video...

by Keller, Tim

Last night I had mentioned the Christmas light display. Open Browser Goto google video and search for "Christmas Lights" it'll be the first result returned. Tim.

Jan. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] RedHat ISOs

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 08:02:45AM -0500, Jeff Kinz wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 10:50:53AM +0700, Aramico wrote: > > > > Friends, any idea where can I download the isos for RHEL AS 4, ES 4 ? > > You probably can't, since those are RedHat's "for money only" releases. > Yes, they are still open source, You can download the source, but no > ISOs are available. > > Closest you can come would be FC4 (Fedora Core 4) or FC5 now in final > test. > > Another option is White Box Linux, a distro based on the RedHat source > code. Dunno if its really equivalent to the RedHat Enterprise products > you are asking about but that seems to be their goal, whereas the FC > series are not intended to be the same as the enterprise products. > The FC series goal is to be a leading edge, community development > platform for RedHat, ie - free labor pool for RedHat. :-) > > > -- > Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. <snip> Another vendor is centos.org. The take the RH source rpm's and build a free distro. Bill

Jan. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] RedHat ISOs

by Jeff Kinz

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 10:50:53AM +0700, Aramico wrote: > > Friends, any idea where can I download the isos for RHEL AS 4, ES 4 ? You probably can't, since those are RedHat's "for money only" releases. Yes, they are still open source, You can download the source, but no ISOs are available. Closest you can come would be FC4 (Fedora Core 4) or FC5 now in final test. Another option is White Box Linux, a distro based on the RedHat source code. Dunno if its really equivalent to the RedHat Enterprise products you are asking about but that seems to be their goal, whereas the FC series are not intended to be the same as the enterprise products. The FC series goal is to be a leading edge, community development platform for RedHat, ie - free labor pool for RedHat. :-) -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. speech recognition software may have been used to create this e-mail "The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." - Brandeis To think contrary to one's era is heroism. But to speak against it is madness. -- Eugene Ionesco

Jan. 12, 2006

RedHat ISOs

by Aramico

Friends, any idea where can I download the isos for RHEL AS 4, ES 4 ? cheers, Aramico

Jan. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] encrypted files

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I have a question about using gpg to encrypt private files on my > system. > > Which encryption is the preferred for file storage? > > Symmetric? (gpg -c) This seems the most secure and flexible, but I'm > getting tired of typing the key so often. > > Public/private? This seems enticing, because encryption is done > without needing to type a password. However, the keyring is on the > same system as the encrypted file, and thus is vulnerable. Why not use an encrypted file system? One passphrase unlocks the entire file system. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDxbP8Hl0iXDssISsRAgo5AJoDvWtovKVEPxE8P1prRrag1EGH/gCcC3eM mk1g81CYnoNF5BdDqndWN60= =Q7Ok -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] encrypted files

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I have a question about using gpg to encrypt private files on my > system. > > Which encryption is the preferred for file storage? > > Symmetric? (gpg -c) This seems the most secure and flexible, but I'm > getting tired of typing the key so often. Your typing will get faster with repetition. Or, maybe you shouldn't have picked such a long key. Oh yeah, I forgot, longer keys are more secure, now aren't they? ;-) - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDxapXHl0iXDssISsRAizbAJ90yHj66nmE9XLJwpjubhKSOoGGGwCfYQzK 6gJJFb9kjg+Sm15b9z0hm5I= =z8Bh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] server outage

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Frank Sweetser wrote: > In case anyone noticed any problems with the mailing list, the server hosting > it ate yet another hard drive. It's been restored from backups, though (which > I may do as a meeting topic one month, if there's interest) and everything > should be back up now. > Thanks for taking care of this, Frank! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDxanIHl0iXDssISsRAnxeAJ0TIRYiC7RuHPquCiFoPu4CCny6ZgCeI/0M 3ZVP1707eXm+nWDdMSMuaqU= =h06k -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 12, 2006

server outage

by Frank Sweetser

In case anyone noticed any problems with the mailing list, the server hosting it ate yet another hard drive. It's been restored from backups, though (which I may do as a meeting topic one month, if there's interest) and everything should be back up now. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Jan. 12, 2006

encrypted files

by Bill Mills-Curran

I have a question about using gpg to encrypt private files on my system. Which encryption is the preferred for file storage? Symmetric? (gpg -c) This seems the most secure and flexible, but I'm getting tired of typing the key so often. Public/private? This seems enticing, because encryption is done without needing to type a password. However, the keyring is on the same system as the encrypted file, and thus is vulnerable. Thanks, Bill

Jan. 11, 2006

reminder: meeting thursday january 12 2006 7:00 pm

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, We'll be having a WLUG meeting this coming Thursday evening, at 7:00 PM, on January 12, 2006 in the Access Grid room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. At this meeting, there is currently no single scheduled topic, so this means that ALL topics are freely available for discussion (thanks, Walt). Bring along your questions and maybe somebody in the room will have answers. Bring up any Linux related topic and we can discuss it as a group. Here are some topics we might discuss: Nokia 770 - http://www.nokia.com/770 Linux World Conference and Expo coming to Boston in April 2006 Richard Stallman will speak at WPI on January 13th Xen in the Linux kernel (see also Xenoppix) Next month (Feb 2006), I'll probably put together a presentation discussing my experience using a Routerboard 532 and making a firewall out of it using GPL software which I pieced together. Stay tuned. After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza and soda at our favorite pizza place (Tech Piza) on Highland Street. We always have lively and interesting discussions there. Come one, come all, and bring your friends, too! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDxF0+Hl0iXDssISsRAvLOAJ9fl9cSwJxVJ9sRZElNA8OZRm0mRgCdHFrM kCin6TULv47cw6RhqOq6zok= =0lzd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 11, 2006

RE: [Wlug] Stallman at WPI, 1/13 @ 11am

by James Gray

I think my message got lost the first time around. I contacted WPI and got a response that sounded like the event would be open to the public. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org on behalf of Jared Greenwald Sent: Mon 1/9/2006 11:51 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Stallman at WPI, 1/13 @ 11am Yea, I can imagine this would bring a packed house... -Jared On 1/9/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > any wpi'rs here? > > Do we need tickets? Can the wlug get us "in"? Is > anyone welcome? > > thanks > mike > > --- Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: > > > I happened to be poking around and found this off > > the main WPI page. I don't > > remember it coming by here yet, so ... > > > > > http://www.cs.wpi.edu/News/Colloquium/20056/stallman.html > > > > -- > > Randomly Generated Tagline: > > "Leadership is a potent combination of strategy and > > character. > > But if you must be without one, be without > > strategy." > > - General H. Norman Schwarzkopf > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Stallman at WPI, 1/13 @ 11am

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

On Mon, Jan 9, 2006, Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> said: > I happened to be poking around and found this off the main WPI page. I don= > 't > remember it coming by here yet, so ... > > http://www.cs.wpi.edu/News/Colloquium/20056/stallman.html It's also in the Social Web event calendar: http://www.socialweb.net/Events/36537 According to the WPI CS Dept's Colloquium main page, all full time graduate students are required to attend. The "more information" email address is csevents(a)cs.wpi.edu -- -mrv(a)kluge.net

Jan. 10, 2006

RE: [Wlug] Stallman at WPI, 1/13 @ 11am

by James Gray

I found a contact address for events @ wpi and recieved this response, good news. >From Michael C Voorhis <mvoorhis(a)cs.wpi.edu>: I'm not aware of any restrictions on the audience. The event description doesn't imply any restrictions (I just looked) and I would believe RMS to be opposed to any restrictions in any case. James Gray writes: > Hi, is the Stallman event open to the public or are only WPI > students/faculty allowed? I am part of the campus GNU/Linux users > group if that makes any difference. Thanks! On 1/9/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > any wpi'rs here? > > Do we need tickets? Can the wlug get us "in"? Is > anyone welcome? > > thanks > mike >

Jan. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Stallman at WPI, 1/13 @ 11am

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI all, I heard Richard Stallman speak at Holy Cross several years ago. I would highly recommend attending if at all possible. Richard is an excellent speaker, and his ideas are well thought. Whether or not you agree with him, I think it is still quite worthwhile to hear him. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDw7lHHl0iXDssISsRArDiAJ9XS+9QaCAbbAiVcjxpJw6AluZdTgCfbqVO CfVUHNbufnsdEJetjQwS+EQ= =jj89 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Stallman at WPI, 1/13 @ 11am

by Jared Greenwald

Yea, I can imagine this would bring a packed house... -Jared On 1/9/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > any wpi'rs here? > > Do we need tickets? Can the wlug get us "in"? Is > anyone welcome? > > thanks > mike > > --- Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: > > > I happened to be poking around and found this off > > the main WPI page. I don't > > remember it coming by here yet, so ... > > > > > http://www.cs.wpi.edu/News/Colloquium/20056/stallman.html > > > > -- > > Randomly Generated Tagline: > > "Leadership is a potent combination of strategy and > > character. > > But if you must be without one, be without > > strategy." > > - General H. Norman Schwarzkopf > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Stallman at WPI, 1/13 @ 11am

by Mike Leo

any wpi'rs here? Do we need tickets? Can the wlug get us "in"? Is anyone welcome? thanks mike --- Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: > I happened to be poking around and found this off > the main WPI page. I don't > remember it coming by here yet, so ... > > http://www.cs.wpi.edu/News/Colloquium/20056/stallman.html > > -- > Randomly Generated Tagline: > "Leadership is a potent combination of strategy and > character. > But if you must be without one, be without > strategy." > - General H. Norman Schwarzkopf > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 10, 2006

Stallman at WPI, 1/13 @ 11am

by Theo Van Dinter

I happened to be poking around and found this off the main WPI page. I don't remember it coming by here yet, so ... http://www.cs.wpi.edu/News/Colloquium/20056/stallman.html -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Leadership is a potent combination of strategy and character. But if you must be without one, be without strategy." - General H. Norman Schwarzkopf

Jan. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Indexed Archieves

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

On Mon, Jan 9, 2006, Aramico <aramico(a)duahati.com> said: > All, can I find all the wlug archieves defined by subject ? > I think I've submitted this case arround 2003, but I forgot whats the month > ? > Im lookin' for how to change the date in linux using command date where its > said that we have to use "`" http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/ You'll probably have to check a couple of months, but there is a sorting by subject... -- -mrv(a)kluge.net

Jan. 9, 2006

Wlug Indexed Archieves

by Aramico

All, can I find all the wlug archieves defined by subject ? I think I've submitted this case arround 2003, but I forgot whats the month ? Im lookin' for how to change the date in linux using command date where its said that we have to use "`" regards, aramic Regards

Jan. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] vcalendar client program

by brad

On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 05:27:56PM -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote: > I've been using KOrganizer from the kdepim package for a couple years > now to store my appointments and todo lists, but I've recently been > having issues with the timezone not being applied, causing all > appointment times to be shifted into the future. The Configure Time & > Date option does nothing at all, and the Configure KOrganizer dialog > is an Empty Page (it literally says "Empty Page" on it!). > you mean it looks something like so? http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=8218&action=view this was reported in the kde bugs database here: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92909 The bug reporter found success by deinstalling/reinstalling kdepim. I can't say for certain that will work. Before you try that, i would try kill all instances of korganizer (logging out of kde may be best too, as i think it used load a korganizer instance in the background), backing-up korganizer's config file then start korganizer. $ cp ~/.kde/share/config/korganizerrc ~/.kde/share/config/korganizerrc.back $ korganizer > Since I'd rather not be without my calendar for long, does anyone have > any recommendations for a replacement program that can read the files > made by KOrganizer? I gather that it uses a standard file format > called "vcalendar". > the files created by korganizer are a vcalender format, probably version 2, a standard calendar format. I believe almost all calendar programs can read those files (located in ~/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/*.ics: Evolution, Mozilla's calendar program, sylpheed, i think even the ipod can read those files, and probably many others. --brad

Jan. 7, 2006

Re: [Wlug] vcalendar client program

by Bradley Noyes

> I've been using KOrganizer from the kdepim package for a couple years > now to store my appointments and todo lists, but I've recently been > having issues with the timezone not being applied, causing all > appointment times to be shifted into the future. The Configure Time & > Date option does nothing at all, and the Configure KOrganizer dialog > is an Empty Page (it literally says "Empty Page" on it!). > you mean it looks something like so? http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=8218&action=view this was reported in the kde bugs database here: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92909 The bug reporter found success by deinstalling/reinstalling kdepim. I can't say for certain that will work. Before you try that, i would try kill all instances of korganizer (logging out of kde may be best too, as i think it used load a korganizer instance in the background), backing-up korganizer's config file then start korganizer. $ cp ~/.kde/share/config/korganizerrc ~/.kde/share/config/korganizerrc.back $ korganizer > Since I'd rather not be without my calendar for long, does anyone have > any recommendations for a replacement program that can read the files > made by KOrganizer? I gather that it uses a standard file format > called "vcalendar". > the files created by korganizer are a vcalender format, probably version 2, a standard calendar format. I believe almost all calendar programs can read those files (located in ~/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/*.ics: Evolution, Mozilla's calendar program, sylpheed, i think even the ipod can read those files, and probably many others.

Jan. 7, 2006

RE: [Wlug] Job Openings in Maynard MA

by JONATHAN BEALL

Along those lines, I had a friend in the recruiting industry contact me regarding a Senior QA Position at Akamai technology in Cambridge. The only issue I came across for the job is the requirement of extensive Perl knowledge (something I know I don't have). If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll forward the Job Description along. - Jonathan Beall >From: "Evans, Robert" <Robert.Evans(a)stratus.com> >Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: [Wlug] Job Openings in Maynard MA >Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:07:20 -0500 > >Stratus Technologies has several openings in the Linux >development group in Maynard MA. One job is already >posted on www.stratus.com. The other two should be >on the web site within a week. > >We develop and support a fault tolerant version of Linux >on Stratus' fault tolerant Intel architecture hardware. >This work involves PCI hot-plug support (surprise removal >of devices), bug fixing and hardening of Linux drivers to >make them fault tolerant, and additions to Stratus' user >mode monitoring and diagnosis capabilities. > > Robert N. Evans > Software Engineer >Stratus Technologies > Maynard, MA 01754 > > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Jan. 5, 2006

Job Openings in Maynard MA

by Evans, Robert

Stratus Technologies has several openings in the Linux development group in Maynard MA. One job is already posted on www.stratus.com. The other two should be on the web site within a week. We develop and support a fault tolerant version of Linux on Stratus' fault tolerant Intel architecture hardware. This work involves PCI hot-plug support (surprise removal of devices), bug fixing and hardening of Linux drivers to make them fault tolerant, and additions to Stratus' user mode monitoring and diagnosis capabilities. Robert N. Evans Software Engineer Stratus Technologies Maynard, MA 01754

Jan. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Web Server Security To Avoid copying

by Josh

It seems to not be documented very well, but it is in the wget FAQ: wget -erobots=off http://your.site.here When you get right down to it, it's impossible to prevent someone from automatically downloading your site, unless of course you pull the ethernet cable. ;-) Josh "James P. Gray" <gray_james(a)dwc.edu> writes: > You could create a robots.txt file in the http root directory to tell > automated tools not to look at some or all of your content. wget for > instance does not have a flag to ignore robots.txt (based on the output > of wget --help). Of course this assumes that the client is written to > respect the robots.txt so it won't stop someone who is really serious. > Just google robots.txt and you'll find more info. Be aware that search > engines will also ignore your content. > > Best of luck! > > Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>On Thursday 05 January 2006 00:47, Aramico wrote: >> >> >>>Of course not. People still can see the web pages, but they can not take >>>all the file (copy the files and its subs dirs) simulatantly. >>> >>> >> >>you didnt understand what he was telling you >> >> you cant lock out wget but allow a web browser, there's no way for >> you to know for sure the client is wget ... the program allows you >> to easily change the reported user agent to say 'firefox' >> >> you could use mod_rewrite or something to check the useragent >> header, but that would only stop people who dont know their tools >>-mike >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Web Server Security To Avoid copying

by James P. Gray

You could create a robots.txt file in the http root directory to tell automated tools not to look at some or all of your content. wget for instance does not have a flag to ignore robots.txt (based on the output of wget --help). Of course this assumes that the client is written to respect the robots.txt so it won't stop someone who is really serious. Just google robots.txt and you'll find more info. Be aware that search engines will also ignore your content. Best of luck! Mike Frysinger wrote: >On Thursday 05 January 2006 00:47, Aramico wrote: > > >>Of course not. People still can see the web pages, but they can not take >>all the file (copy the files and its subs dirs) simulatantly. >> >> > >you didnt understand what he was telling you > >you cant lock out wget but allow a web browser, there's no way for you to know >for sure the client is wget ... the program allows you to easily change the >reported user agent to say 'firefox' > >you could use mod_rewrite or something to check the useragent header, but that >would only stop people who dont know their tools >-mike >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >

Jan. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Web Server Security To Avoid copying

by Mike Frysinger

On Thursday 05 January 2006 00:47, Aramico wrote: > Of course not. People still can see the web pages, but they can not take > all the file (copy the files and its subs dirs) simulatantly. you didnt understand what he was telling you you cant lock out wget but allow a web browser, there's no way for you to know for sure the client is wget ... the program allows you to easily change the reported user agent to say 'firefox' you could use mod_rewrite or something to check the useragent header, but that would only stop people who dont know their tools -mike

Jan. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Web Server Security To Avoid copying

by Aramico

Of course not. People still can see the web pages, but they can not take all the file (copy the files and its subs dirs) simulatantly. regards, aramico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theo Van Dinter" <felicity(a)kluge.net> To: "Worcester Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Web Server Security To Avoid copying > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Web Server Security To Avoid copying

by Theo Van Dinter

On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:50:29AM +0700, Aramico wrote: > But I dont want any other user can copy and take all my files using wget, > teleport, etc. > For example, when somebody tried to do "wget -c -r > http://thisisthesites.com " user will not get any other file from its dir > and its subs dir. > Can I do this ? Using linux tools or apache's tools ? So you don't want people to be able to view your web pages? There's nothing different between wget and any other web browser. It's not really clear what you're trying to do. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Do the voices in my head bother you?

Jan. 5, 2006

Web Server Security To Avoid copying

by Aramico

Dear All, I have sites, handled by Apache Web Server on Linux. The system goes ok, no problem. But I dont want any other user can copy and take all my files using wget, teleport, etc. For example, when somebody tried to do "wget -c -r http://thisisthesites.com " user will not get any other file from its dir and its subs dir. Can I do this ? Using linux tools or apache's tools ? thanks all :) Aramico

Jan. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] vcalendar client program

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 05:39:03PM -0500, Jared Greenwald wrote: > What version of KDE are you using? kdebase-3.5.0-0.1.fc4 kdelibs-3.5.0-0.2.fc4 kdepim-3.5.0-0.2.fc4 >korganizer -v Qt: 3.3.4 KDE: 3.5.0-0.2.fc4 Red Hat KOrganizer: 3.5

Jan. 3, 2006

Re: [Wlug] vcalendar client program

by Jared Greenwald

What version of KDE are you using? -Jared On 1/3/06, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > I've been using KOrganizer from the kdepim package for a couple years > now to store my appointments and todo lists, but I've recently been > having issues with the timezone not being applied, causing all > appointment times to be shifted into the future. The Configure Time & > Date option does nothing at all, and the Configure KOrganizer dialog > is an Empty Page (it literally says "Empty Page" on it!). > > Since I'd rather not be without my calendar for long, does anyone have > any recommendations for a replacement program that can read the files > made by KOrganizer? I gather that it uses a standard file format > called "vcalendar". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 3, 2006

vcalendar client program

by Chuck Anderson

I've been using KOrganizer from the kdepim package for a couple years now to store my appointments and todo lists, but I've recently been having issues with the timezone not being applied, causing all appointment times to be shifted into the future. The Configure Time & Date option does nothing at all, and the Configure KOrganizer dialog is an Empty Page (it literally says "Empty Page" on it!). Since I'd rather not be without my calendar for long, does anyone have any recommendations for a replacement program that can read the files made by KOrganizer? I gather that it uses a standard file format called "vcalendar".

Jan. 3, 2006

Re: [Wlug] DVD writer...

by Karl Hiramoto

I have only burned two dual layer disks so far as they are dam expensive, but they both worked. Usually I'm burning with k3b, or xcdroast. I have a "Mad dog multimedia" on parallel EIDE interface drive. Jared Greenwald wrote: > I haven't bothered to test the DL features on Linux, but I can't > imagine that the numbers would be that much off (or at least as off as > non-DL) in that review I sent... > > On 1/2/06, Keller, Tim <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> wrote: > >>Now, who here has tested a dual layer writer + media on linux? >> >>Tim. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On >>Behalf Of Mike Frysinger >>Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:49 PM >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] DVD writer... >> >>On Monday 02 January 2006 08:52, Keller, Tim wrote: >> >>>I'm in the market to buy a DVD writer. >>> >>>Anybody have any recommendations for drives to look for or avoid? >> >>ive always had good luck with Plextor drives, and atm i have two: >>Plextor DVDR PX-708A >>work great with k3b / dvd+rw-tools >>-mike >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/ US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk=karl.hiramoto(a)gmail.com ------ - Men are those creatures with two legs and eight hands. -- Jayne Mansfield

Jan. 3, 2006

Re: [Wlug] DVD writer...

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Keller, Tim wrote: > I'm in the market to buy a DVD writer. > > Anybody have any recommendations for drives to look for or avoid? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > Avoid SATA optical drives like the plague. I had a horrible time with those in the 2.6 kernel. I don't think they are officially supported (yet). Don't make the mistake I made by purchasing one (but I'll sell you mine if you want it! Plextor 712). - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDufxBHl0iXDssISsRAn/DAJ4tMt1j1SrDIptu7oByeYSRv48R2QCfYUrJ j67jIM3bib5XFObTHlufB2w= =UbFO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 3, 2006

Re: [Wlug] DVD writer...

by Jared Greenwald

I haven't bothered to test the DL features on Linux, but I can't imagine that the numbers would be that much off (or at least as off as non-DL) in that review I sent... On 1/2/06, Keller, Tim <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> wrote: > Now, who here has tested a dual layer writer + media on linux? > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Frysinger > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:49 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] DVD writer... > > On Monday 02 January 2006 08:52, Keller, Tim wrote: > > I'm in the market to buy a DVD writer. > > > > Anybody have any recommendations for drives to look for or avoid? > > ive always had good luck with Plextor drives, and atm i have two: > Plextor DVDR PX-708A > work great with k3b / dvd+rw-tools > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 2, 2006

RE: [Wlug] DVD writer...

by Keller, Tim

Now, who here has tested a dual layer writer + media on linux? Tim. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Mike Frysinger Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:49 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] DVD writer... On Monday 02 January 2006 08:52, Keller, Tim wrote: > I'm in the market to buy a DVD writer. > > Anybody have any recommendations for drives to look for or avoid? ive always had good luck with Plextor drives, and atm i have two: Plextor DVDR PX-708A work great with k3b / dvd+rw-tools -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 2, 2006

Re: [Wlug] DVD writer...

by Mike Frysinger

On Monday 02 January 2006 08:52, Keller, Tim wrote: > I'm in the market to buy a DVD writer. > > Anybody have any recommendations for drives to look for or avoid? ive always had good luck with Plextor drives, and atm i have two: Plextor DVDR PX-708A work great with k3b / dvd+rw-tools -mike

Jan. 2, 2006

Re: [Wlug] DVD writer...

by Jared Greenwald

This review recently appeared on Slashdot. Tom's Hardware is is pretty good resource for hardware reviews... http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/30/the_latest_dvd_writers_true_speeds/i… On 1/2/06, Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > On 1/2/06, Keller, Tim <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> wrote: > > I'm in the market to buy a DVD writer. > > > > Anybody have any recommendations for drives to look for or avoid? > > I have and am happy with this one from Newegg: > DVD BURNER LITE-ON SOHW-1693S > > Paid $38. > > BR > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 2, 2006

Re: [Wlug] DVD writer...

by Brett Russ

On 1/2/06, Keller, Tim <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> wrote: > I'm in the market to buy a DVD writer. > > Anybody have any recommendations for drives to look for or avoid? I have and am happy with this one from Newegg: DVD BURNER LITE-ON SOHW-1693S Paid $38. BR

Jan. 2, 2006

DVD writer...

by Keller, Tim

I'm in the market to buy a DVD writer. Anybody have any recommendations for drives to look for or avoid? Thanks, Tim.

Jan. 2, 2006

Re: [Wlug] suse-9.3 ...32 or 64?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Greg, Based on your description, I hope you have a lot of memory in that machine! I'm thinking 1GB. The dual library installation was easy - SuSE does it for you with the RPMs. It was largely invisible to me until I compiled some software from source and noticed what was happening. Howard correctly notes that one occasinally needs to tweak the arguments passed to ./configure to get things to compile, and that this is not always documented in an obvious way. Make sure you have a stable motherboard. I've heard that sometimes they can be flaky and that can cause lockups and such, which are quite annoying. ;-) (In fact, I recently swapped out my flaky MSI MB in favor of a Tyan. Target practice, anyone?). I suppose one could install SuSE 32-bit on one part of the hard drive and SuSE 64-bit on the other, but I suspect that would defeat your goal of low maintenance since you'd end up tweaking both. Later, Andy Gregory Avedissian wrote: > Thanks for your answers, guys. > > The person using this computer is doing genealogical research and writing. > She also uses Gimp to create artwork, uses Skype for communications, and > uses Geneweb for the genealogical database. > > She runs KDE with eight virtual desktops, and they're usually all > occupied. Typically, there will be multiple firefox tabs/windows open, > sometimes on maps that require Flash, multiple text editor (gedit) tabs > open, editing several files at once, moving large blocks of text. Gimp is > frequently open with a work in progress (many edits) and Skype is always > running. And there are usually at least two Konqueror windows open - one > for the Geneweb database, and one for file browsing, and sometimes one on > a website. Occasionally, she'll use OOo to deal with a word doc that > someone sends her. With all these projects open, any lockups or having to > shutdown creates a major pain in the ass. > > The user is still fairly new to linux (about a year) and is way more > interested in using it than in tweaking it. If anything has to be compiled > from source, I'd be the one to do it. And I'd definitely need instructions > on installing dual libraries. Stable and low-maintenance are important > factors. I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to install both, on > different partitions, and if one doesn't work, she can just switch to the > other. > > > > Greg > Andy Stewart wrote: > >>HI Greg et al, >> >>I have a dual Opteron at home running SuSE 9.2 with stock kernel >>upgrades. I am running the 64-bit version of SuSE with the exception of >>Firefox, which is a 32-bit executable. This is so that I can run the >>32-bit version of Macromedia Flash and other plugins. I don't know of >>any 64-bit plugins for Firefox, and 64-bit Firefox, while it exists and >>functions, doesn't like 32-bit plugins, and I wanted the plugins. The >>32-bit plugins work fine with the 32-bit Firefox. I have the Adobe >>plugin (32-bit), Flash, and Java. >> >>I believe that everything else on my machine is 64-bits. SuSE has the >>RPMS for 32-bit as well as 64-bit libraries, both of which I have >>installed (in /usr/lib and /usr/lib64). >> >>I'm not a software developer like Robert (Gutenprint), so my issues >>won't be the same. My use is that of a power user, and for that >>purpose, the 64-bit SuSE suits me well. Greg - what purpose will the >>machine serve? >> >>Let's see - I run KDE 3.4.2 without problems, VMware (with the >>unofficial vmware-any-any patches), Qemu, Thunderbird, Firefox, amaroK, >>xmms, Gimp, seti boinc, cross compile to MIPS, XEmacs, and many others, >>all without problems. As Robert mentions, the problems really arise >>when one starts to deal with proprietary software (try finding a Cisco >>proprietary VPN driver for a dual x86_64 running Linux, for example...). >> >>I think you'll also find yourself compiling from source more often. >>64-bit RPMs aren't as easy to find as 32-bit RPMs. Also, on occasion, >>I've seen a source package have issues compiling on a 64-bit machine, >>but mostly they work fine if you have the necessary prerequisites >>installed. >> >>Later, >> >>Andy >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDtU7WHl0iXDssISsRAsWpAJ9jcKRgaG2elsl3pr4ffqBJ8ZGXuQCffOzP 9XDbX135T4SMBJ/wDYQ8940= =eOoH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] suse-9.3 ...32 or 64?

by Gregory Avedissian

Thanks for your answers, guys. The person using this computer is doing genealogical research and writing. She also uses Gimp to create artwork, uses Skype for communications, and uses Geneweb for the genealogical database. She runs KDE with eight virtual desktops, and they're usually all occupied. Typically, there will be multiple firefox tabs/windows open, sometimes on maps that require Flash, multiple text editor (gedit) tabs open, editing several files at once, moving large blocks of text. Gimp is frequently open with a work in progress (many edits) and Skype is always running. And there are usually at least two Konqueror windows open - one for the Geneweb database, and one for file browsing, and sometimes one on a website. Occasionally, she'll use OOo to deal with a word doc that someone sends her. With all these projects open, any lockups or having to shutdown creates a major pain in the ass. The user is still fairly new to linux (about a year) and is way more interested in using it than in tweaking it. If anything has to be compiled from source, I'd be the one to do it. And I'd definitely need instructions on installing dual libraries. Stable and low-maintenance are important factors. I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to install both, on different partitions, and if one doesn't work, she can just switch to the other. Greg Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI Greg et al, > > I have a dual Opteron at home running SuSE 9.2 with stock kernel > upgrades. I am running the 64-bit version of SuSE with the exception of > Firefox, which is a 32-bit executable. This is so that I can run the > 32-bit version of Macromedia Flash and other plugins. I don't know of > any 64-bit plugins for Firefox, and 64-bit Firefox, while it exists and > functions, doesn't like 32-bit plugins, and I wanted the plugins. The > 32-bit plugins work fine with the 32-bit Firefox. I have the Adobe > plugin (32-bit), Flash, and Java. > > I believe that everything else on my machine is 64-bits. SuSE has the > RPMS for 32-bit as well as 64-bit libraries, both of which I have > installed (in /usr/lib and /usr/lib64). > > I'm not a software developer like Robert (Gutenprint), so my issues > won't be the same. My use is that of a power user, and for that > purpose, the 64-bit SuSE suits me well. Greg - what purpose will the > machine serve? > > Let's see - I run KDE 3.4.2 without problems, VMware (with the > unofficial vmware-any-any patches), Qemu, Thunderbird, Firefox, amaroK, > xmms, Gimp, seti boinc, cross compile to MIPS, XEmacs, and many others, > all without problems. As Robert mentions, the problems really arise > when one starts to deal with proprietary software (try finding a Cisco > proprietary VPN driver for a dual x86_64 running Linux, for example...). > > I think you'll also find yourself compiling from source more often. > 64-bit RPMs aren't as easy to find as 32-bit RPMs. Also, on occasion, > I've seen a source package have issues compiling on a 64-bit machine, > but mostly they work fine if you have the necessary prerequisites > installed. > > Later, > > Andy > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] suse-9.3 ...32 or 64?

by howard＠howardwhite.net

With specific respect to compiling, some apps I regularly compile -- especially Scribus -- require that in the ./configure stage you include --enable-libsuffix=64. In this particular case, it's because the Qt libraries are sensitive to the bit-ness. The BUILDING file should indicate such requirements. HW

Dec. 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] suse-9.3 ...32 or 64?

by Mike Frysinger

On Friday 30 December 2005 01:54, Andy Stewart wrote: > I don't know of > any 64-bit plugins for Firefox, and 64-bit Firefox, while it exists and > functions, doesn't like 32-bit plugins, and I wanted the plugins. The > 32-bit plugins work fine with the 32-bit Firefox. I have the Adobe > plugin (32-bit), Flash, and Java. macromedia posted a status update for amd64/linux support: http://www.kaourantin.net/2005/12/flash-player-8-for-linux-update.html -mike

Dec. 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] suse-9.3 ...32 or 64?

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Greg et al, I have a dual Opteron at home running SuSE 9.2 with stock kernel upgrades. I am running the 64-bit version of SuSE with the exception of Firefox, which is a 32-bit executable. This is so that I can run the 32-bit version of Macromedia Flash and other plugins. I don't know of any 64-bit plugins for Firefox, and 64-bit Firefox, while it exists and functions, doesn't like 32-bit plugins, and I wanted the plugins. The 32-bit plugins work fine with the 32-bit Firefox. I have the Adobe plugin (32-bit), Flash, and Java. I believe that everything else on my machine is 64-bits. SuSE has the RPMS for 32-bit as well as 64-bit libraries, both of which I have installed (in /usr/lib and /usr/lib64). I'm not a software developer like Robert (Gutenprint), so my issues won't be the same. My use is that of a power user, and for that purpose, the 64-bit SuSE suits me well. Greg - what purpose will the machine serve? Let's see - I run KDE 3.4.2 without problems, VMware (with the unofficial vmware-any-any patches), Qemu, Thunderbird, Firefox, amaroK, xmms, Gimp, seti boinc, cross compile to MIPS, XEmacs, and many others, all without problems. As Robert mentions, the problems really arise when one starts to deal with proprietary software (try finding a Cisco proprietary VPN driver for a dual x86_64 running Linux, for example...). I think you'll also find yourself compiling from source more often. 64-bit RPMs aren't as easy to find as 32-bit RPMs. Also, on occasion, I've seen a source package have issues compiling on a 64-bit machine, but mostly they work fine if you have the necessary prerequisites installed. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDtNmYHl0iXDssISsRAhoKAJ9s5V6ZWw8d+bgAREWtp4LXC/DsfACghX/p cMTz/M08kxSjXMxalx8nYzI= =4XAn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] suse-9.3 ...32 or 64?

by Robert L Krawitz

Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:13:02 -0500 From: Gregory Avedissian <gma2004(a)verizon.net> I just put together a new machine for a friend. Sempron 3100 on ASUS K8V-MX. It was a rush job, because the computer she was using died. (Same one I wrote about recently that was having lockup problems - pretty sure now that it was the power supply. The last time she tried to turn it on, a big spark came out the back, and that was the end of it. Memory and vid card still test good.) So now that she has a shiny new 64-bit system, I'm wondering whether to go with 64-bit OS or stick to 32. I haven't had much time to research it, but I understand that there are some problems with Macromedia Flash and Java, which she needs. Some of the reading I've done suggests that you can install the 32-bit version of Firefox with the plugins to get around this. Anyone know if it's really as easy as that? Are there any problems with running 32-bit software on a 64-bit OS? Any particular bugginess with 64 that I should know about in advance? She runs KDE desktop and uses Gimp a lot. I hate to say it, but I installed 32-bit SUSE on my Athlon 64 for the following reasons: 1) It was always a pain in the butt syncing up software between my laptop (32-bit) and the 64-bit software. 2) Valgrind didn't work at the time (9.1 timeframe) on 64-bit code, which made it all but useless. Yes, it's possible to forcibly compile things in 32-bit mode, but it was a real pain when most of the development libraries were 64-bit only. 3) Yes, Java, Flash, etc. didn't work. That was generally a fairly minor nuisance, and there are no guarantees with 32-bit software. Right now the Adobe PDF plugin doesn't work on 32-bit SUSE 10.0 because it's compiled with an older version of g++ than what SUSE uses. The usual grief with proprietary software. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

Dec. 30, 2005

suse-9.3 ...32 or 64?

by Gregory Avedissian

I just put together a new machine for a friend. Sempron 3100 on ASUS K8V-MX. It was a rush job, because the computer she was using died. (Same one I wrote about recently that was having lockup problems - pretty sure now that it was the power supply. The last time she tried to turn it on, a big spark came out the back, and that was the end of it. Memory and vid card still test good.) So now that she has a shiny new 64-bit system, I'm wondering whether to go with 64-bit OS or stick to 32. I haven't had much time to research it, but I understand that there are some problems with Macromedia Flash and Java, which she needs. Some of the reading I've done suggests that you can install the 32-bit version of Firefox with the plugins to get around this. Anyone know if it's really as easy as that? Are there any problems with running 32-bit software on a 64-bit OS? Any particular bugginess with 64 that I should know about in advance? She runs KDE desktop and uses Gimp a lot. Oh, one other glitch I ran into - I tried to do the network install, but the boot cd doesn't have the kernel modules for the LAN chip. I was instructed to go to the install cd and make a "modules 3" floppy. There is no modules 3 image on the cd or on the ftp site, but there are images for "bootdisk1, bootdisk2, etc." Do I have to make the whole set and install from floppy, or is there a way to find out which disk has the right module and just use that with the cd? Or could I just put an older card in it for the install and then change the network card setup afterward? I'm thinking the latter would be easier than finding five or six blank floppy disks to use. Thanks, Greg

Dec. 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] FC2 and FC3 to FC4 ... ?

by Chuck Anderson

On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 05:50:18PM -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > around I was thinking of either using yum or burning some CDs and doing > the upgrade method (which the Fedora guys recommended to me). > > Anyone have suggestions about what method works best? Any gotchas I should > worry about, etc? Using anacaconda is the official, supported method of upgrading a Fedora system. The reason is simple: certain tasks cannot be done on the live running system, but instead must be done from outside the normal system environment (e.g. filesystem/lvm conversion, incompatible kernel<->userspace changes like NPTL, new kernel features like SELinux support, rpm scriptlets). I've had success upgrading to FC4 from as far back as Red Hat Linux 7.3. That being said, yum sometimes works well if you take into account some of the manual tasks you may need to do before and after, e.g. sometimes you must remove several older kernel versions manually before attempting the yum update. The success of this method deteriorates increasingly as the version difference of the before and after OSes increases. I have not used this method extensively except between FC test and development (rawhide) releases. What I have been doing recently for remote upgrades is using the grub installed on the existing OS to boot the anaconda installer environment with the proper command line arguments to start a VNC-based network install. You then reboot the system, wait a few moments, and connect to it via VNC to finish the graphical install manually. Of course, you could also use kickstart to completely automate this with no user interaction required. cd /boot wget -O vmlinuz-fc4 http://<fc-mirror>/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/isolinux/vmlinuz wget -O initrd-fc4.img http://<fc-mirror>/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os/isolinux/initrd edit /etc/grub.conf, adding this to the beginning: title Fedora Core 4 installer root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz-fc4 headless ip=dhcp ksdevice=eth0 method=http://<fc-mirror>/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/i386/os lang=en_US keymap=us vnc vncpassword=<password> initrd /initrd-fc4.img Notes: 1. If you have multiple NICs, eth0 may not be the one you think it will be once you reboot into the installer. Therefore, it is highly recommended to specify the desired install NIC using its MAC address: ksdevice=aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:Ff 2. Don't forget to set the default boot entry in grub to the installer entry, e.g. default=0 Reboot: shutdown -r now vncviewer <remote-ip>:0 IMPORTANT: Be sure to select "Create a new bootloader configuration". I found out the hard way that "Update existing bootloader configuration" will leave you with no way to remotely boot into the new OS after the upgrade is completed, because grub will default to booting the installer over and over again, and remotely re-upgrading and selecting "Create a new bootloader configuration" afterwards will not re-write the bootloader because it only does that if a new kernel gets installed, which it won't since it was already installed the first time you upgraded... Finally, SELinux doesn't get enabled automatically on upgrades, but you can easily enable it manually afterwards: yum install setools selinux-policy-targeted touch /.autorelabel reboot More info: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/fedora-install-guide-en/ http://www.arenatechniques.com/kb/index.php/Anaconda http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq/

Dec. 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Busybox / mips / embedded Linux question

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 29 December 2005 17:42, Andy Stewart wrote: > >>Within busybox, command substitution and pipes don't work on this MIPS >>box (but they do work on my x86_64). > > > are you using uClibc 0.9.28 or the uClibc snapshot ? busybox release or > busybox snapshot ? is your cpu big endian mips ? i can gen a buildroot over > here and test it on a little endian mips box pretty quickly, but i'll have to > fiddle to boot my big endian mips ... Hi Mike, Here's what I'm using: uClibc-0.9.28 busybox-1.01 target cpu is little endian (mipsel) Linux kernel is 2.4.30 (yes, I hacked in the headers...) > > also, you could have just posted this to the busybox mailing list, we dont > mind these sort of things ;) > -mike > I considered that, especially when I saw a "Mike Frysinger" over there, and wondered if there was more than one of you on the Internet. :-) Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDtH0/Hl0iXDssISsRAr0iAKCIAgChF0hmBtJacLyW0yp1mp/WGQCeLgkh hyrJzp8NzhaDf5QV2AUYhPc= =OQGz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 30, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Busybox / mips / embedded Linux question

by Mike Frysinger

On Thursday 29 December 2005 17:42, Andy Stewart wrote: > Within busybox, command substitution and pipes don't work on this MIPS > box (but they do work on my x86_64). are you using uClibc 0.9.28 or the uClibc snapshot ? busybox release or busybox snapshot ? is your cpu big endian mips ? i can gen a buildroot over here and test it on a little endian mips box pretty quickly, but i'll have to fiddle to boot my big endian mips ... also, you could have just posted this to the busybox mailing list, we dont mind these sort of things ;) -mike

Dec. 29, 2005

FC2 and FC3 to FC4 ... ?

by Theo Van Dinter

Hey folks, I have an FC2 and FC3 machine which I want to get upgraded to FC4. In the past, I used to spend an hour or two doing this type of thing manually which was a pain but generally got the job done ... This time around I was thinking of either using yum or burning some CDs and doing the upgrade method (which the Fedora guys recommended to me). Anyone have suggestions about what method works best? Any gotchas I should worry about, etc? Thanks in advance! :) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "If you lend someone $20, and never see that person again, it was probably worth it." - Zen Musings

Dec. 29, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Busybox / mips / embedded Linux question

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > I've been scouring the net and cannot find an answer. I must be doing > something wrong, but I know not what. Does anybody have any helpful hints? Other notes: With respect to file descriptors, I noticed on my x86_64 system that /dev/fd is a symlink to /proc/self/fd, but not so on the MIPS box. I added that link to no avail. It seemed relevant, but perhaps not. /proc is enabled on the MIPS box. I also checked via ulimit to insure that I wasn't somehow limited in the number of open file descriptors. No problems there as far as I can tell. I think that's it for now. Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDtGfoHl0iXDssISsRAlMbAJ4odnJkq+6nmuUmwqnobUFHCeKnCQCfW0lo Ih8arrn+mj7WxdbUpmCHmqo= =R4qz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 29, 2005

Busybox / mips / embedded Linux question

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, I am playing with a single board computer (SBC) in an attempt to make a diskless, fanless, silent firewall. Specifically, its the RouterBoard 532 (http://www.routerboard.com) The processor is MIPS based (4Kc). I've been using the buildroot software (nice!) which made creating the cross compiler enviroment considerably easier than my previous (failed) attempts at doing this by hand. My cross compiler environment is now working quite nicely. I have created an environment where I have loaded software onto a compact flash card and booted Linux 2.4.30 on this box. I have logged in and gotten the box talking on the net. All 3 ethernet ports function, as well as ssh and dhcp. Sweet! My next step is to take the SuSE firewall scripts (they are GPL) and run them on this box. However, I'm hitting a wall that I don't think I should be hitting. Within busybox, command substitution and pipes don't work on this MIPS box (but they do work on my x86_64). command substitution example: echo `cat /etc/hostname` pipes: ls -l | grep foo With neither of these working, real scripts don't work too well. :-( I've traced the source code (gotta love free software!) and the code fails whenever it calls the function dup2(). I'm not sure why dup2() fails, but it does, returning EBADF (bad file descriptor). I tried installing bash and noticed exactly the same thing. dup2() seems to be implemented as a system call into the kernel, but that's where I get lost. I've been scouring the net and cannot find an answer. I must be doing something wrong, but I know not what. Does anybody have any helpful hints? Thanks! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDtGZXHl0iXDssISsRAjuLAKCFg/zGddsXpVH8rIe/m4n2I/OSTACaAoQf BDkJ30y7RJ634XazzPgGAWY= =w+LK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 29, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 26, Issue 19

by Chuck Anderson

On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 12:54:29PM -0500, Carlton C. Stedman II wrote: > The situation you describe about the removable drives mounting in /media > suggests it is using udev, hal, d-bus and ivman. Your home system should FC3 and FC4 come preconfigured to use udev, hal, d-bus, and gnome-volume-manager. ivman doesn't ship with FC. When hal notices a new block device (via the kernel hotplug mechanism), it should call /etc/hal/device.d/50-fstab-sync.hal which is a symlink to /usr/sbin/fstab-sync. This is what creates the mount points in /media and adds/removes entries from /etc/fstab. Entries that have been added by fstab-sync are marked with "managed" in the options field. Then gnome-volume-manager mounts the device if the option "Mount removable drives when hot-plugged" is set. Since I've never needed to change the defaults here, I'm not sure how to fix the specific problem Bill is having. I would assume that removing all traces of manual configuration in /etc/fstab etc. should cause the default behavior to be restored.

Dec. 29, 2005

Re: [Wlug] OpenWrt

by Matt Higgins

I run OpenWrt at work and at home, it is a very nice piece of work, never had a lockup. If you have some more dough I recommend net4801 http://www.soekris.com/net4801.htm The one I have is currently running OpenBSD but is of course Linux friendly and you can do a lot more with it. -Matt On 12/23/05, Mike <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> wrote: > At the last meeting we briefly discussed building a Linux Router from a > single board computer. I was poking around the net and found the OpenWrt > project. I'm curious if anyone has any experience with OpenWrt? > > Happy Holidays, > Mike > > OpenWrt: http://wiki.openwrt.org/FrontPage > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 29, 2005

Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 26, Issue 19

by Carlton C. Stedman II

The situation you describe about the removable drives mounting in /media suggests it is using udev, hal, d-bus and ivman. Your home system should be using udev, but not sure if it has hal or d-bus; even if, doesn't sound like it has ivman. I'm not so sure about how to do this in FC, I'm a gentoo guy, but you'd need to have all of those installed and set up. This might be of some help: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ivman. You need udev and d-bus for hal, and then just need to start the hal daemon (hald). Then start ivman, and it should autodetect devices plugged in and put them into /media. For example, /media/usbdisk0 would be the first partion of the first usb disk plugged in (I do believe). It'll add new devices to your /etc/fstab. You can, however, have a bit more control over this, setting up a udev rule to make your disk use a specific device file, for example /dev/mydrive and then put a listing in /etc/fstab to mount /dev/mydrive at /media/mydrive. Then, when plugged in, udev will create the /dev/mydrive device file and ivman will detect it's creation and readiness and mount it at /media/mydrive. Spiffy stuff. For more information on writing udev rules: http://gentoo-wiki.com/UDEV_Overview#Writing_custom_udev_rules. Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote... > Subject: [Wlug] usb drive -- hotplug/automount > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)wlug.org> > Message-ID: <20051227205055.GA6082(a)bday.mills.curran> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I have a question about hotplugging & USB and some differences I see > between 2 different FC3 systems (home & work). > > **** Home > > Initially, I configured my drive at home. I did NOT have the menu > item: > > Preferences -> Removable Storage > > set to "Mount removable drives when hot-plugged". Without realizing > that this was an option, I used manual entries in fstab: > > # usb drive > LABEL=usblinux /mnt/usb/linux auto defaults,user 0 0 > /dev/sde2 /mnt/usb/windows auto defaults,user 0 0 > /dev/sde1 /mnt/usb/camera auto defaults,user 0 0 > > This worked well & good. I was happy to be able to mount the > partitions as a user. Note that the linux partition has a label > "usblinux". > > Then, I moved the drive to my work machine. > > **** Work > > I plugged the drive in and was surprised to find that both partitions > automatically mounted in /media: > > /media/usbdisk > /media/usblinux > > I also saw that entries were added to /etc/fstab, reflecting the mount > points and device names. > > I recognized this as better action. > > Returning home... > > **** Home > > Plugging the drive in, I confirmed that nothing was happening in > /media. I found the entry to automount the drive in: > > Preferences -> Removable Storage > > and enabled it. I unplugged and plugged the drive, and it mounted > with this from df: > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > <snip> > /dev/sde1 72801276 1704196 67398920 3% /mnt/usb/camera > /dev/sde2 4176756 96 4176660 1% /mnt/usb/windows > > This is not what I wanted. It used my fstab entries, and it picked > the "camera" entry over the labeled entry. > > OK, so I deleted the fstab entries & tried again. This time nothing > mounted. > > **** What I'd like to happen. > > 1. Mount when plugged in. > > 2. Don't specify the device -- after all, some other (new) usb device > could disturb the device name. > > How do I get there? > > TIA, > Bill > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 26, Issue 19 > ************************************ > -- Carlton C. Stedman II, sageman(a)wpi.edu "To iterate is human, to recurse, divine." -- L. Peter Deutch

Dec. 29, 2005

usb drive -- hotplug/automount

by Bill Mills-Curran

I have a question about hotplugging & USB and some differences I see between 2 different FC3 systems (home & work). **** Home Initially, I configured my drive at home. I did NOT have the menu item: Preferences -> Removable Storage set to "Mount removable drives when hot-plugged". Without realizing that this was an option, I used manual entries in fstab: # usb drive LABEL=usblinux /mnt/usb/linux auto defaults,user 0 0 /dev/sde2 /mnt/usb/windows auto defaults,user 0 0 /dev/sde1 /mnt/usb/camera auto defaults,user 0 0 This worked well & good. I was happy to be able to mount the partitions as a user. Note that the linux partition has a label "usblinux". Then, I moved the drive to my work machine. **** Work I plugged the drive in and was surprised to find that both partitions automatically mounted in /media: /media/usbdisk /media/usblinux I also saw that entries were added to /etc/fstab, reflecting the mount points and device names. I recognized this as better action. Returning home... **** Home Plugging the drive in, I confirmed that nothing was happening in /media. I found the entry to automount the drive in: Preferences -> Removable Storage and enabled it. I unplugged and plugged the drive, and it mounted with this from df: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on <snip> /dev/sde1 72801276 1704196 67398920 3% /mnt/usb/camera /dev/sde2 4176756 96 4176660 1% /mnt/usb/windows This is not what I wanted. It used my fstab entries, and it picked the "camera" entry over the labeled entry. OK, so I deleted the fstab entries & tried again. This time nothing mounted. **** What I'd like to happen. 1. Mount when plugged in. 2. Don't specify the device -- after all, some other (new) usb device could disturb the device name. How do I get there? TIA, Bill

Dec. 27, 2005

Exim/MX/Mail forwarding

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi, We have 2 dedicated servers, I'm hoping someone can help save me some time and keep me from messing up the servers! Our 2 servers are: Server "A": 111.111.111.111 Server "B": 222.222.222.222 (not the real IPs obviously!) I've configured Exim to allow us to send email to a domain literal (so mail sent to michaelz(a)[222.222.222.222] works) What we'd like to do is have ALL email sent to server "A" go to server "B"... I know this can be done with MX files, but I'm not sure about setting up "domain zones" or if it's easier to just change some settings in Exim. Thank you! Michael Z

Dec. 27, 2005

Re: [Wlug] OpenWrt

by John Stoffel

Mike> At the last meeting we briefly discussed building a Linux Router Mike> from a single board computer. I was poking around the net and Mike> found the OpenWrt project. I'm curious if anyone has any Mike> experience with OpenWrt? I used to run LEAF/bering from the Linux Router project, but it seemed to die after a while and I didn't care for using an old PC with CDROM/floppy as my firewall anymore. I ended up moving to m0n0wall (http://m0n0.ch) on a WRAP board with three ethernet ports, http://www.pcengines.ch and I've been very happy. Don't bother getting a wireless card, just get a seperate Linksys WRT54G (or something like that) box and hang it off it's own network port. This setup works really nicely, and has really low power/noise, which is what I was after. m0n0wall is based on FreeBSD I admit, but that didn't stop me... :] John

Dec. 27, 2005

Re: [Wlug] USB drive & logical volumes

by Mike Leo

The reason we use logical volumes is to prevent any one volume from filling up / (which can also be accomplished with physical volumes, I know), but also to allow us to simply resize them somewhat on the fly. for instance, if /home becomes full, we can add additionally harddrives (internal or SAN) and resize the /home logical volume with the new space. This can be done without taking /home offline, although i've never done that. So I'm not sure how much of a benefit a logical volume would be on a fixed sized external drive. At least not in the way we use it. --- Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > Santa brought me a nice 80 GB "portable" USB drive. > My intended use > is a combination of backup and transporting personal > files to/from > work (I want to remove them from my work hard > drive). Both home and > work systems are FC3, but may be FC4 sometime soon. > > I was ready to partitioning (4 GB fat, remainder > ext3) when I started > reading up on logical volumes. They seem pretty > neat, but I wonder > if they are useful for a portable drive. In > particular, I can see > that some/all of the definitions for the group and > volume are in > /dev/mapper, so I'd have to duplicate some of the > setup on both > machines. > > > Any recommendations or experience? Would I be > better off with > physical partitions for this use? > > TIA, > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 26, 2005

USB drive & logical volumes

by Bill Mills-Curran

Santa brought me a nice 80 GB "portable" USB drive. My intended use is a combination of backup and transporting personal files to/from work (I want to remove them from my work hard drive). Both home and work systems are FC3, but may be FC4 sometime soon. I was ready to partitioning (4 GB fat, remainder ext3) when I started reading up on logical volumes. They seem pretty neat, but I wonder if they are useful for a portable drive. In particular, I can see that some/all of the definitions for the group and volume are in /dev/mapper, so I'd have to duplicate some of the setup on both machines. Any recommendations or experience? Would I be better off with physical partitions for this use? TIA, Bill

Dec. 26, 2005

Re: [Wlug] OpenWrt

by Mike

I have been using Linux for 4-5 years no so I am definatly up for the task. I haven't had much experience with setting up a Linux router/firewall, but I think my other experience will be enough. Part of doing this project is to learn more using Linux as a router. I heard about the crippled WRT54G from slashdot and few other places. According to OpenWrt's wiki version 3 of the WRT54GS has 8MB of flash and 32MBs ram. However version 4 they cut it in half. Anyway thanks for the info. Cheers, Mike <quote who="Karl Hiramoto"> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yes, excellent distro.. I use it on 12 boxes which are a mix of > Linksys WRT54G and WRT54GS. > I do OLSR mesh networks and hot spots. Beware WRT54G with hardware > version 5 does not work. as Cisco cripled the box with only 4M of > ram. See info on www.openwrt.org for hardware compatibility. > > It's definitely not a newbie distro though, you need to know linux and > networking. > > Some people try openwrt and are upset because it requires you to know > something about Linux and networking. There are several other > distros out there that are more easy, but less configurable and less > hackable. :-) > > Enjoy, > > - -- > > - -- > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto jabber.org=karl_hiramoto > > > > Mike wrote: > >>At the last meeting we briefly discussed building a Linux Router from a >>single board computer. I was poking around the net and found the OpenWrt >>project. I'm curious if anyone has any experience with OpenWrt? >> >>Happy Holidays, >>Mike >> >>OpenWrt: http://wiki.openwrt.org/FrontPage >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFDrCBdi5PWRMgthfERAmEqAJ9PRi6apq32NNX2720sheDVRnXzIgCcDOFm > /hSLn2WAqswfmZwedo7pWnk= > =WfWm > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- Emacs would be a far better OS if it shipped with a halfway-decent text editor. --Anonymous

Dec. 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] OpenWrt

by Jeff Kinz

> Mike wrote: > >At the last meeting we briefly discussed building a Linux Router from a > >single board computer. I was poking around the net and found the OpenWrt > >project. I'm curious if anyone has any experience with OpenWrt? On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 05:05:49PM +0100, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > Yes, excellent distro.. I use it on 12 boxes which are a mix of > Linksys WRT54G and WRT54GS. Bad news - Good News: FYI - LINKSYS Model Changes: The Linksys WRT54G and WRT54GS lines have moved from Linux to VXworks to reduce the cost of producing the hardware. (VXworks requires less memory, reduces the size of the flash needed for the device, which now doesn't have enough room for Linux.) Fortunately, Linksys had added a new model specifically for Linux hackers, called the "WRT54GL", (presumably the "L" is for "Linux"), which will have a street price of $50-$70, slightly higher than the VXworks models. If you want to hack on one of these boxes, make sure that you get the correct model. Versions 1 thru 4 of the WRT54G and WRT54GS were Linux based but all versions from 5 and up will be VXworks based. If you can't get a v4 or earlier model of the original line, then make sure you get a WRT54GL or be prepared to replace the internal flash component with a larger piece. http://wifinetnews.com/archives/006101.html -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. speech recognition software may have been used to create this e-mail "The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." - Brandeis To think contrary to one's era is heroism. But to speak against it is madness. -- Eugene Ionesco

Dec. 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] OpenWrt

by Karl Hiramoto

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yes, excellent distro.. I use it on 12 boxes which are a mix of Linksys WRT54G and WRT54GS. I do OLSR mesh networks and hot spots. Beware WRT54G with hardware version 5 does not work. as Cisco cripled the box with only 4M of ram. See info on www.openwrt.org for hardware compatibility. It's definitely not a newbie distro though, you need to know linux and networking. Some people try openwrt and are upset because it requires you to know something about Linux and networking. There are several other distros out there that are more easy, but less configurable and less hackable. :-) Enjoy, - -- - -- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto jabber.org=karl_hiramoto Mike wrote: >At the last meeting we briefly discussed building a Linux Router from a >single board computer. I was poking around the net and found the OpenWrt >project. I'm curious if anyone has any experience with OpenWrt? > >Happy Holidays, >Mike > >OpenWrt: http://wiki.openwrt.org/FrontPage > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDrCBdi5PWRMgthfERAmEqAJ9PRi6apq32NNX2720sheDVRnXzIgCcDOFm /hSLn2WAqswfmZwedo7pWnk= =WfWm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 23, 2005

OpenWrt

by Mike

At the last meeting we briefly discussed building a Linux Router from a single board computer. I was poking around the net and found the OpenWrt project. I'm curious if anyone has any experience with OpenWrt? Happy Holidays, Mike OpenWrt: http://wiki.openwrt.org/FrontPage

Dec. 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Somewhat Off-topic - vpsland.com

by Webmaster

Karl Hiramoto wrote: > Post to the list a review if you try it. I personally am looking for a hosting > solution for under $100/ month and the virtual servers seem to be the most > economical now. > > What i personally need is full root access, 15+ GB of disk, 100+ GB of xfer, > 256+M of RAM. I've been looking around for something for a while, but have not > made the leap yet. > > --- > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk=karl.hiramoto(a)gmail.com > ---- I use serverpronto.com for both of my dedicated servers - $30/month. They offer a few distros to choose from: Fedora, Red Hat, CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu, SuSe, Gentoo, FreeBSD and OpenBSD Basic package includes: Athlon 2000 256 MB RAM 40GB Hard drive 200GB Traffic I've used them for about 2 years now and haven't had any issues with the servers or service. Rob Mahlert .

Dec. 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Brett Russ

On 12/22/05, Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > On 12/18/05, Mims Research <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > will be researching video capture and editing suites (open source or > > otherwise) suitable for a Linux environment, but for now I'll be happy > > For video editing/DVD creation, see the two feature articles in this months LJ: > http://www.linuxjournal.com/issue/141 Oops, sorry about that. Should have checked the actual article links before sending this out. You need to be a subscriber to see the articles from the current month's issue. So, either: -wait a couple weeks until they open up those articles; or -check out Kino (there were other tools mentioned but this was the big app); or -all of the above BR

Dec. 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Brett Russ

On 12/18/05, Mims Research <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > will be researching video capture and editing suites (open source or > otherwise) suitable for a Linux environment, but for now I'll be happy For video editing/DVD creation, see the two feature articles in this months LJ: http://www.linuxjournal.com/issue/141 BR

Dec. 22, 2005

Setting up LDAP server?

by Tom Misilo

Hey, I was wondering if anybody had a nice easy tutorial for setting up an ldap server so i can store my address book and calendar and access it with kontact/outlook/ and other software Thanks, Tom -- Tom Misilo AIM:Tmisilo FL Jabber:tmisilo@jabber.org

Dec. 21, 2005

Anybody use a linksys wpc54gx?

by Tom Misilo

Does anybody use a wpc54gx under suse 10 or 9.3? and have it detected automatically in yast? or do I have to use ndiswrapper Thanks, Tom -- Tom Misilo AIM:Tmisilo FL Jabber:tmisilo@jabber.org

Dec. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Somewhat Off-topic - vpsland.com

by Casey Rankin

I'm really happy with a dedicated server I rent from servermatrix.com. They have one for $119.... Casey On 12/21/05, Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> wrote: > Post to the list a review if you try it. I personally am looking for a hosting > solution for under $100/ month and the virtual servers seem to be the most > economical now. > > What i personally need is full root access, 15+ GB of disk, 100+ GB of xfer, > 256+M of RAM. I've been looking around for something for a while, but have not > made the leap yet. > > --- > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk=karl.hiramoto(a)gmail.com > ------ > > > Adam Keck wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I am thinking about web/ssh/etc. hosting with vpsland.com. They > > host via Xen virtual machines. Has anyone had any experience with > > them? Does anyone use them currently? Does anything about them look > > fishy? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > - Adam > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Somewhat Off-topic - vpsland.com

by Theo Van Dinter

On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 06:15:35PM +0100, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > Post to the list a review if you try it. I personally am looking for a hosting > solution for under $100/ month and the virtual servers seem to be the most > economical now. In a similar vein -- anyone have suggestions about colo facilities in the area? I have some 1U machines that I'd like to put up somewhere, but the colos I've found so far seem to be either really expensive or only allow a very small amount of bandwidth transfer (like 4KB/sec small -- I could just get a modem). -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Snakes have no arms. That's why they don't wear vests." - Bob Lazarus

Dec. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Somewhat Off-topic - vpsland.com

by Karl Hiramoto

Post to the list a review if you try it. I personally am looking for a hosting solution for under $100/ month and the virtual servers seem to be the most economical now. What i personally need is full root access, 15+ GB of disk, 100+ GB of xfer, 256+M of RAM. I've been looking around for something for a while, but have not made the leap yet. --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk=karl.hiramoto(a)gmail.com ------ Adam Keck wrote: > Hello All, > > I am thinking about web/ssh/etc. hosting with vpsland.com. They > host via Xen virtual machines. Has anyone had any experience with > them? Does anyone use them currently? Does anything about them look > fishy? > > Thanks, > > > - Adam > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Brian Waite

On Saturday 17 December 2005 3:01 pm, howard(a)howardwhite.net wrote: > >I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned > >enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a > >new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off > >list are welcomed. > > > >Thanks! > >Marie > > Ihave just (Thursday) picked up my new Linux laptop from PCs forEveryone in > Cambridge.. I bought my Linux desktop from them in April.Good quality, > essentially custom made. I have SuSe Pro 10 on mine. > > They are at PCSFOREVERYONE.com, I think, and they're right near the > Cambridgeside Galleria. > > HW We busy a lot of systems from PCSFOREVERYONE.com preinstalled with Linux. They are very good and will test the whole system for incompatabilities. We recently bought our first laptop from them and it has been pretty good, but it has only had light duty for a few months now. I highly reccommend them. PS if you are using it for meetings, you may not want to choose the Spartan laptop. The keys are a bit flimsy and lound but otherwise have good responsivness. Thanks Brian

Dec. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Bill Smith

Le Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:29:12 -0500 (EST) "Mike" <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> a écrit: > Marie, > I constantly see http://www.emperorlinux.com/ in the Linux magazines > that I frequently read, however I can't say I've ever bought one from > them. Emperor offers a variety of "distros" including my favorite > "Ubuntu". > > Their prices seem a bit high, but might make a good point of > reference at the least. I saw them at a Linux show last year... They had a booth there. They seem to have a decent spread of hardware, whether you want the system for Day-to-Day work or for specialized work (they had a laptop there, for example, that was rigged to do 3D! Very nice...). I agree that their prices are a little high, but given that most laptop hardware always seem to have a few "quirks", it may be worth it. > Being strapped for cash myself I decided to get a used laptop on Ebay > and trust my luck. For just a few bills I got a Compaq Armada M700 > (which I am writing this email on right now). It's processor is only > a P3 @ 1GHz, but I appreciate it more and more everyday. Ubuntu Linux > installed flawlessly on it and I even got a Belkin 802.11b/g wifi > card working without a hitch. Excellent... :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com

Dec. 21, 2005

Re: [Wlug] openVPN??

by Karl Hiramoto

Yes, I have been using http://openvpn.net/ for about 6 months on a linux server. I switched from using pptp, and am very happy. It works much better with linux clients than pptp. For windows clients there is a gui interface, that is ok. But it was nice that pptp was built into windows. Ken Jones wrote: > Have any of us implemented SSL VPN client-to-network tunneling using a > Linux openvpn server? I am trying to create a plan for implementing SSL > VPN access to a city school district. > > Ken Jones > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk=karl.hiramoto(a)gmail.com ------ - A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. -- William James

Dec. 21, 2005

Somewhat Off-topic - vpsland.com

by Adam Keck

Hello All, I am thinking about web/ssh/etc. hosting with vpsland.com. They host via Xen virtual machines. Has anyone had any experience with them? Does anyone use them currently? Does anything about them look fishy? Thanks, - Adam

Dec. 21, 2005

openVPN??

by Ken Jones

Have any of us implemented SSL VPN client-to-network tunneling using a Linux openvpn server? I am trying to create a plan for implementing SSL VPN access to a city school district. Ken Jones

Dec. 21, 2005

Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 26, Issue 12

by guest

I can get you a refurbed Thinkpad T20 series (P3 700 - 1000) with Fedora Core 3 (for example) loaded for about $350 to $450. You request the hw/os config you need. Or if you want to put it together yourself on an auction-purchased unit, you may be able to get it for less. Please contact me off-list if you are interested. Louis Rouleau temljrmjrlmr(a)comcast.net wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor (Mike) > 2. Re: Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor (Michael Long) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:29:12 -0500 (EST) >From: "Mike" <mwp(a)sdf.lonestar.org> >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Message-ID: > <52446.66.30.144.252.1134926952.squirrel(a)webmail.bitbistro.org> >Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > >Marie, >I constantly see http://www.emperorlinux.com/ in the Linux magazines that >I frequently read, however I can't say I've ever bought one from them. >Emperor offers a variety of "distros" including my favorite "Ubuntu". > >Their prices seem a bit high, but might make a good point of reference at >the least. > >Being strapped for cash myself I decided to get a used laptop on Ebay and >trust my luck. For just a few bills I got a Compaq Armada M700 (which I am >writing this email on right now). It's processor is only a P3 @ 1GHz, but >I appreciate it more and more everyday. Ubuntu Linux installed flawlessly >on it and I even got a Belkin 802.11b/g wifi card working without a hitch. > >Hope this helps, >Mike > > ><quote who="Mims Research"> > > >>Hello, >> >>I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned >>enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a >>new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off >>list are welcomed. >> >>Thanks! >>Marie >>mimsresearch(a)gmail.com >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> > > >

Dec. 20, 2005

Re: [Wlug] DNS/MX Question

by Mike Frysinger

On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 11:33:58AM -0500, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > I'm new at this Linux thing this isnt really a "Linux" question ... it depends on who is hosting your DNS servers and if it's you, it largerly depends on what package you are using to run the DNS servers also, your DNS server probably only controls the forward lookup (i.e. the DNS -> IP step) ... you'll have to coordinate with whoever owns your IP space to get the reverse lookup (IP -> DNS step) to work > * Server 'P' is only used for hosting the games. It has the FQDN > "AllinPlay.com" AllinPlay.com. 86400 IN A 1.2.3.4 this would declare the name "AllinPlay.com" should resolve to the IP "1.2.3.4" and that DNS servers can cache the results for 24 hours (the number is specified as timeout in seconds) > * Server 'D' only has an IP (no FQDN). > - I'd like 'D' to be accessable via a subdomain such as: > devel.allinplay.com devel.allinplay.com. 86400 IN A 1.2.3.5 > - I'd like 'D' to handle all the mail for the allinplay.com domain. > Users will get the mail from 'D' via a client such as Thunderbird allinplay.com. 86400 IN MX 10 devel.allinplay.com. this says that all e-mail for the allinplay.com domain should be sent to the server devel.allinplay.com the 10 is a preference value ... useful if you have multiple servers for load balancing or fault tolerance tolerence > So my confustion comes in as to how to set the DNS/MX/A/AAA records. If > anyone can shed some light on this I'd be very greatful! you could use the 'dig' tool (which is normally packaged as "bind-tools" in distributions) to figure out what other people do for example: $ dig wlug.org .... ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;wlug.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: wlug.org. 259200 IN A 130.215.130.21 ... $ dig wlug.org MX ... ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;wlug.org. IN MX ;; ANSWER SECTION: wlug.org. 259200 IN MX 10 smtp.wpi.edu. wlug.org. 259200 IN MX 20 mx.wpi.edu. ... -mike

Dec. 20, 2005

DNS/MX Question

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi all, I'm new at this Linux thing and have a few questions about some servers I'm setting up. We have 2 dedicated servers which we have complete control over. One server is our production server (I'll call this server 'P') used to host our online games (AllinPlay.com) the other is for development, testing, email, etc (I'll call this server 'D'). These are physically seperate machines. Here's how I'd like to set them up: * Server 'P' is only used for hosting the games. It has the FQDN "AllinPlay.com" * Server 'D' only has an IP (no FQDN). - I'd like 'D' to be accessable via a subdomain such as: devel.allinplay.com - I'd like 'D' to handle all the mail for the allinplay.com domain. Users will get the mail from 'D' via a client such as Thunderbird So my confustion comes in as to how to set the DNS/MX/A/AAA records. If anyone can shed some light on this I'd be very greatful! Thanx! Michael Z

Dec. 20, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Michael Long

> I constantly see http://www.emperorlinux.com/ in the Linux magazines that I have never used emperorlinux.com but have purchased from pcforeveryone.com with great success. They have a very responsive tech support group for any mishaps which may occur. They offer several linux distributions. I have been using SuSE for many years and am happy with it. I have installed the Ubuntu distribution on my 4 year old son's laptop and he really likes the games available on it. Good luck, Mike

Dec. 19, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Mike

Marie, I constantly see http://www.emperorlinux.com/ in the Linux magazines that I frequently read, however I can't say I've ever bought one from them. Emperor offers a variety of "distros" including my favorite "Ubuntu". Their prices seem a bit high, but might make a good point of reference at the least. Being strapped for cash myself I decided to get a used laptop on Ebay and trust my luck. For just a few bills I got a Compaq Armada M700 (which I am writing this email on right now). It's processor is only a P3 @ 1GHz, but I appreciate it more and more everyday. Ubuntu Linux installed flawlessly on it and I even got a Belkin 802.11b/g wifi card working without a hitch. Hope this helps, Mike <quote who="Mims Research"> > Hello, > > I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned > enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a > new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off > list are welcomed. > > Thanks! > Marie > mimsresearch(a)gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Emacs would be a far better OS if it shipped with a halfway-decent text editor. --Anonymous

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mims Research wrote: > Sorry, I don't know what a Linux ditro is. Yes, I am looking for a > reliable vendor that offers laptops with Linux pre-installed. Any advice > on the desktop program, i.e. which is better? Lindows? Red Hat? > Linspire? and all the others out there? At the moment, I'm using Open > Office, Thunderbird and Firefox on an old 98SE Dell Inspiron 3500, still > ticking after all these years but slow. Additionally, down the road I > will be researching video capture and editing suites (open source or > otherwise) suitable for a Linux environment, but for now I'll be happy > with the basics--an office suite, email and browsing. My bottom line is > migrating from dependency on proprietary operating systems, versatility > and reliability. > > Thanks! > Marie > mimsresearch(a)gmail.com HI Marie, A "Linux distro" (short for distribution) is a collection of Linux software packaged up for ease of use. Such distributions include SuSE (Novell), RedHat, Debian, Ubuntu, and many, many others. These distributions are sometimes available in boxed sets, CDs, or download. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDpYnsHl0iXDssISsRAiERAKCAAYQNpb3t8aP8wd74+WWr2igBwQCeLWmk jmI2/QKTAaj51yaY9Bka+SI= =iq14 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by howard＠howardwhite.net

>Sorry, I don't know what a Linux ditro is. Yes, I am looking for a >reliable vendor that offers laptops with Linux pre-installed. Any advice >on the desktop program, i.e. which is better? Lindows? Red Hat? >Linspire? and all the others out there? Sorry; I both mistyped and used a slang term. A *distro* is a distribution, in this case of an operating system variant. I use SuSe Linux Pro, which my vendor installed for its price of ~$60. >Additionally, down the road I >will be researching video capture and editing suites (open source or >otherwise) suitable for a Linux environment, I know of only one, MainActor, which has a price and which I've never been able to get working very well. > but for now I'll be happy >with the basics--an office suite, email and browsing. SuSe as installed comes with OpenOffice, at least as good as Microsqush office. It also includes Firefox browser. HW

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Mims Research

Sorry, I don't know what a Linux ditro is. Yes, I am looking for a reliable vendor that offers laptops with Linux pre-installed. Any advice on the desktop program, i.e. which is better? Lindows? Red Hat? Linspire? and all the others out there? At the moment, I'm using Open Office, Thunderbird and Firefox on an old 98SE Dell Inspiron 3500, still ticking after all these years but slow. Additionally, down the road I will be researching video capture and editing suites (open source or otherwise) suitable for a Linux environment, but for now I'll be happy with the basics--an office suite, email and browsing. My bottom line is migrating from dependency on proprietary operating systems, versatility and reliability. Thanks! Marie mimsresearch(a)gmail.com > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:23:00 -0500 >From: Jared Greenwald <greenwaldjared(a)gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Message-ID: > <2759cf860512170723g6a694243r811a5eccd4f653fc(a)mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Are you asking about a linux ditro that's well suited to a laptop or a >laptop vendor that offers laptops with linux pre-installed? > >-Jared > >On 12/17/05, Mims Research <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>Hello, >> >>I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned >>enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a >>new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off >>list are welcomed. >> >>Thanks! >>Marie >>mimsresearch(a)gmail.com >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >End of Wlug Digest, Vol 26, Issue 10 >************************************ > > >

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Linux & memory sticks

by Karl Hiramoto

Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I have a hinted that a memory stick would be a nice stocking stuffer > this year. Any recommendations for a 1 GB stick for use (mostly) on > linux? > > Can I format a FAT partition for Windows use, too? I have a 1G "SanDisk" and "Apacer" brands and have had no problems with them. The SanDisk came with NTFS preformated, i just formated back to FAT32 to use with both linux and windows. --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk=karl.hiramoto(a)gmail.com ------ - BOFH Excuse #286: Telecommunications is downgrading.

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Linux & memory sticks

by Mike Frysinger

On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 11:45:53AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Can I format a FAT partition for Windows use, too? sure, just grab the dosfstools package and you can format good old dos partitions or every version of fat if your distro doesnt supply it, you can find it here: ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/Linux/LOCAL/dosfstools/ -mike

Dec. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by howard＠howardwhite.net

> >I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned >enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a >new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off >list are welcomed. > >Thanks! >Marie Ihave just (Thursday) picked up my new Linux laptop from PCs forEveryone in Cambridge.. I bought my Linux desktop from them in April.Good quality, essentially custom made. I have SuSe Pro 10 on mine. They are at PCSFOREVERYONE.com, I think, and they're right near the Cambridgeside Galleria. HW

Dec. 17, 2005

Linux & memory sticks

by Bill Mills-Curran

I have a hinted that a memory stick would be a nice stocking stuffer this year. Any recommendations for a 1 GB stick for use (mostly) on linux? Can I format a FAT partition for Windows use, too? Thanks, Bill

Dec. 17, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Jared Greenwald

Are you asking about a linux ditro that's well suited to a laptop or a laptop vendor that offers laptops with linux pre-installed? -Jared On 12/17/05, Mims Research <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned > enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a > new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off > list are welcomed. > > Thanks! > Marie > mimsresearch(a)gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 17, 2005

Reliable Linux Laptop Vendor

by Mims Research

Hello, I'm very new to Linux and I'm not a technical person. But I've learned enough about Linux to know it rocks (thanks Bob!) and to know I want a new Linux laptop. Can anyone recommend a reliable vendor? Replies off list are welcomed. Thanks! Marie mimsresearch(a)gmail.com

Dec. 17, 2005

Re: [Wlug] logging level in syslog

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gregory Avedissian wrote: > How do I increase the amount of information that gets logged in > /var/log/messages in suse 9.3? From what I can gather, I need to edit > /etc/sysconfig-ng/sysconfig-ng.conf.in. > > Is it just a matter of changing this line - > filter f_warn { level(warn, err, crit) and not filter(f_iptables); }; > > > To this? > filter f_warn { level(debug, info, notice, warn, err, crit) and not > filter(f_iptables); }; > > > Or would I edit /etc/sysconfig/syslog? > # Default loglevel for klogd > # > KERNEL_LOGLEVEL=1 > > If so, what number should replace "1"? > > Or something else? > > The reason I want to do this is to help a friend diagnose a problem with > lockups. Sometimes one program locks up, and sometimes the whole computer > locks up, and the reset button is the only way out. It happens when she > gets a lot of stuff running (e.g. several firefox tabs, several gedit > tabs, konqueror, and gimp-with many edits on the same file.) There's > nothing useful in the system log right before this happens. > > Thanks, > Greg > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > HI Greg, In my system (SuSE 9.2), in /etc/sysconfig/syslog, it mentions the log level for klogd. The man page for klogd describes the log level setting. The man page mentions "KERN_ERR", which I didn't know what that was, so I grepped for "KERN_ERR" in the Linux source code. I found it in linux-<ver>/include/linux/kernel.h (and if I had read the whole man page, I'd have learned this without grepping for it). #define KERN_EMERG "<0>" /* system is unusable */ #define KERN_ALERT "<1>" /* action must be taken immediately */ #define KERN_CRIT "<2>" /* critical conditions */ #define KERN_ERR "<3>" /* error conditions */ #define KERN_WARNING "<4>" /* warning conditions */ #define KERN_NOTICE "<5>" /* normal but significant condition */ #define KERN_INFO "<6>" /* informational */ #define KERN_DEBUG "<7>" /* debug-level messages */ Now, with regard to debugging lockups, I have had (unfortunately) some small experience with this. Here are some things to initially check: 1) run memtest for 24 hours and make sure the memory isn't flaky 2) make sure the motherboard has the most recent BIOS 3) setup a serial console to some other machine 4) enable more logging (you're trying to do that now...) 5) pray to $DEITY that the problem just goes away...forever! 6) make sure your hardware is properly cooled (CPU, video card, hard drives, etc) I hope this helps, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDo18cHl0iXDssISsRAvxLAJsGFEzXNbUzMhBY9rSpuNsTv/8FHACePUwT jtBPDJBUMd4STQVfAQHICeY= =OxbA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 17, 2005

logging level in syslog

by Gregory Avedissian

How do I increase the amount of information that gets logged in /var/log/messages in suse 9.3? From what I can gather, I need to edit /etc/sysconfig-ng/sysconfig-ng.conf.in. Is it just a matter of changing this line - filter f_warn { level(warn, err, crit) and not filter(f_iptables); }; To this? filter f_warn { level(debug, info, notice, warn, err, crit) and not filter(f_iptables); }; Or would I edit /etc/sysconfig/syslog? # Default loglevel for klogd # KERNEL_LOGLEVEL=1 If so, what number should replace "1"? Or something else? The reason I want to do this is to help a friend diagnose a problem with lockups. Sometimes one program locks up, and sometimes the whole computer locks up, and the reset button is the only way out. It happens when she gets a lot of stuff running (e.g. several firefox tabs, several gedit tabs, konqueror, and gimp-with many edits on the same file.) There's nothing useful in the system log right before this happens. Thanks, Greg

Dec. 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Walt Sawyer wrote: > After last nights meeting, I figured that I'd use KDE. I've used KDE on > other machines and I liked it. Unfortunately, some stuff doesn't seem > to work. For instance, on my gnome desktop, when I plug in my external > USB hard drive, it shows up on the gnome desktop, but not on my KDE > desktop. While I could've gotten around that, it also cannot be found > in Konquerer, or even from a command line! That's the only thing I've > found so far. I did notice that some apps were there and working when > they didn't exist or didn't work on gnome. So I will keep using gnome > on my Fedora Core 4 laptop, until I find a better one. > Walt HI Walt, I'm not quite sure *how* to make it work, but I do remember having the functionality that you described in KDE. In fact, I remember turning it off(!) because I didn't care for it - gotta love the choices in Linux. ;-) However, I can't remember how I disabled it, either. My guess would be that this has something to do with hotplug and /etc/fstab for starters. I'm not quite sure about the KDE hook. Later, Andy > > > > > On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 16:09 -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > >>>From: Ken Jones <jonesj(a)ziplink.net> >>> >>>Per the suggestion of Chuck Anderson I logged in under a new >>>account. GNOME desktop worked just as it should. So I removed >>>all of the /home/kjones/.gconf directory and logged in again as >>>myself. >>> >>>Still it did not work correctly. In particular the right click >>>on empty space did not work. >>> >>>I did a "diff -r" on the two (now default versions I suppose) .gconf >>>directories. They seemed the same save for unique identifiers. Where >>>do I look to find the differences? >> >>Calls to xmodmap in your .bash*, .xinitrc, or startx setup files? >>If the buttons don't work in the program, maybe the >>program is fine, but somebody moved the buttons. >> >>This is just a random guess, of course. I have never seen >>an empty space on any desktop of mine. >> >> --Keith >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDohcFHl0iXDssISsRAnerAJ4qMDqYC02Ps/yli2wQwXnOjSwPeACfQLN5 IXwjx3KnCK3j4LwYa47ALHk= =tR9B -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Walt Sawyer

After last nights meeting, I figured that I'd use KDE. I've used KDE on other machines and I liked it. Unfortunately, some stuff doesn't seem to work. For instance, on my gnome desktop, when I plug in my external USB hard drive, it shows up on the gnome desktop, but not on my KDE desktop. While I could've gotten around that, it also cannot be found in Konquerer, or even from a command line! That's the only thing I've found so far. I did notice that some apps were there and working when they didn't exist or didn't work on gnome. So I will keep using gnome on my Fedora Core 4 laptop, until I find a better one. Walt On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 16:09 -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: Ken Jones <jonesj(a)ziplink.net> > > > > Per the suggestion of Chuck Anderson I logged in under a new > > account. GNOME desktop worked just as it should. So I removed > > all of the /home/kjones/.gconf directory and logged in again as > > myself. > > > > Still it did not work correctly. In particular the right click > > on empty space did not work. > > > > I did a "diff -r" on the two (now default versions I suppose) .gconf > > directories. They seemed the same save for unique identifiers. Where > > do I look to find the differences? > > Calls to xmodmap in your .bash*, .xinitrc, or startx setup files? > If the buttons don't work in the program, maybe the > program is fine, but somebody moved the buttons. > > This is just a random guess, of course. I have never seen > an empty space on any desktop of mine. > > --Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- See http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html

Dec. 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Success, almost, with GNOME

by Keith Wright

> From: Ken Jones <jonesj(a)ziplink.net> > > Per the suggestion of Chuck Anderson I logged in under a new > account. GNOME desktop worked just as it should. So I removed > all of the /home/kjones/.gconf directory and logged in again as > myself. > > Still it did not work correctly. In particular the right click > on empty space did not work. > > I did a "diff -r" on the two (now default versions I suppose) .gconf > directories. They seemed the same save for unique identifiers. Where > do I look to find the differences? Calls to xmodmap in your .bash*, .xinitrc, or startx setup files? If the buttons don't work in the program, maybe the program is fine, but somebody moved the buttons. This is just a random guess, of course. I have never seen an empty space on any desktop of mine. --Keith

Dec. 15, 2005