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Re: DLS/Cable [ Was Re: [Wlug] anyone happy with DSL in Worcester?]

by Charlie Milhans

Has anyone had any experience with Satellite two way DSL? I can't get DSL through Verizon and our ATT Broadband doesn't have any plans to add a cable modem. Dish Network has two way for $60 a month and $550 initial hardware. They are talking of 550 kbs for download and 110 kbs for upload speeds. Thanks, Charlie Milhans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen C. Daukas" <stephen(a)daukas.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 8:46 AM Subject: DLS/Cable [ Was Re: [Wlug] anyone happy with DSL in Worcester?] > This may or may not be helpful, but I'll bring it up anyway... > > You have three options, as I see it: > > 1. Live outside of Worcester > 2. Live in a different part of Worcester > 3. Get your own line > > I mention 1 & 2 because two friends recently moved from Worcester to > surrounding towns and one of the unsolicited comments was regarding better > connectivity... The other story is that two other friends have very > different stories to tell based on where they live in Worcester - one > friend lives near UMass, the other over near Quinsig. Admittedly, this is > anecdotal, but what the hell. It also sounds like you may be tied to WPI, > so... > > The third option, in light of the poor track record of DSL, is to see what > you can do with a local provider. If your industrious enough, get a bunch > of people to chip in for your own line at the level you are comfortable > with (speed versus money). I know of one group that did this with only 3 > people. They split the cost three ways and, in two of the three's cases, > they got some reimbursement form their employer (then re-worked the per > person cost)... Brought the individual cost to the same level as a typical > business account, but they had their own pipe. > > Just my two bits worth. > > Steve > > PS. I read the posting of the story about multiple installs with a smile > as this was my experience in Shrewsbury a while back. To make a long story > short, I ended up with cable service from the town. A little rough in the > beginning (as they were starting out), but it has been nothing but smooth > sailing from then on. > > I had DSL, switched to Cable, then back to DSL, then back to Cable. During > my hiatus from the town cable, the town fired their last provider and > brought on a new sub... A much better story than DSL at this point in > time, if only because the DSL market is so unstable right now. > > Just goes to show that nothing is perfect. > > At 07:43 PM 8/30/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi all - > > I'm new to the area.. living near the WPI campus. > >Is anyone here happy with their DSL service? > > > > Right now I've got DSL service from Earthlink. Man, > >they suck. The thing goes out for a week at a time & all > >they do is ask me to power cycle my modem & then say > >its a Verizon problem & I must wait for Verizon to fix it. > > > > This time I'm getting 400ms pings & terrible bandwidth (50kbps... > >and not as smooth as a modem) > > > > Anyone know if going with a different DSL provider would > >improve things? > > > > I'm not sure who Earthlink uses locally, but they always > >say its a Verizon problem. > > > > Speakeasy uses Covad. Perhaps I should switch? > > > >Thank you - > >Matt > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 31, 2001

Speakdifficult

by Sands Fish

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Aug. 31, 2001

RE: [Wlug] anyone using DSL in Worcester? is it working?

by Kingsbury, Michael

I'll echo this one, I'm pretty happy with Speakeasy, also a little uneasy about the Covad issue... Can't say I had any complaints, service is fine. -beaker -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Charles R . Anderson Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:37 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] anyone using DSL in Worcester? is it working? On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 09:24:39PM -0400, Matt Pease wrote: matt> I'm wondering now, is anyone on this list in Worcester using matt> DSL? If so, with who & is it working fully now? I use Speakeasy. They are an excellent DSL company. My DSL only went down two or three times in the 8 months since I've had it. One time was to move my connection from the NYC POP to the Boston POP (providing much better connectivity in the process), and the most recent time was due to lightning blowing out my modem. They replaced it for free. I am a little worried about Covad, though. That's why I did not go for the "save $10 by paying for a year in advance" deal. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 31, 2001

Re: [Wlug] anyone happy with DSL in Worcester?

by Aaron Haviland

webmaster(a)atari-users.net said: > If you are paying an extra $30 for Charter.. sounds like you have the business > connection. Of which I believe you can host a site on. If you just want a > static IP, that is $10 extra a month. > > Rob > rmahlert(a)charter.net Well, in my experience, running services is more important than having a static IP, as people don't tend to remember the IP address anyway. I'd been using dyndns (http://www.dyndns.org) for a year on dialup, and requested the ability to run various services when I upgraded to cable, and they gave me the static IP. -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net I need to learn spanish..I only know one sentence, and its not very nice... got it from some Mexican brick layers - kepe

Aug. 31, 2001

DLS/Cable [ Was Re: [Wlug] anyone happy with DSL in Worcester?]

by Stephen C. Daukas

This may or may not be helpful, but I'll bring it up anyway... You have three options, as I see it: 1. Live outside of Worcester 2. Live in a different part of Worcester 3. Get your own line I mention 1 & 2 because two friends recently moved from Worcester to surrounding towns and one of the unsolicited comments was regarding better connectivity... The other story is that two other friends have very different stories to tell based on where they live in Worcester - one friend lives near UMass, the other over near Quinsig. Admittedly, this is anecdotal, but what the hell. It also sounds like you may be tied to WPI, so... The third option, in light of the poor track record of DSL, is to see what you can do with a local provider. If your industrious enough, get a bunch of people to chip in for your own line at the level you are comfortable with (speed versus money). I know of one group that did this with only 3 people. They split the cost three ways and, in two of the three's cases, they got some reimbursement form their employer (then re-worked the per person cost)... Brought the individual cost to the same level as a typical business account, but they had their own pipe. Just my two bits worth. Steve PS. I read the posting of the story about multiple installs with a smile as this was my experience in Shrewsbury a while back. To make a long story short, I ended up with cable service from the town. A little rough in the beginning (as they were starting out), but it has been nothing but smooth sailing from then on. I had DSL, switched to Cable, then back to DSL, then back to Cable. During my hiatus from the town cable, the town fired their last provider and brought on a new sub... A much better story than DSL at this point in time, if only because the DSL market is so unstable right now. Just goes to show that nothing is perfect. At 07:43 PM 8/30/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Hi all - > I'm new to the area.. living near the WPI campus. >Is anyone here happy with their DSL service? > > Right now I've got DSL service from Earthlink. Man, >they suck. The thing goes out for a week at a time & all >they do is ask me to power cycle my modem & then say >its a Verizon problem & I must wait for Verizon to fix it. > > This time I'm getting 400ms pings & terrible bandwidth (50kbps... >and not as smooth as a modem) > > Anyone know if going with a different DSL provider would >improve things? > > I'm not sure who Earthlink uses locally, but they always >say its a Verizon problem. > > Speakeasy uses Covad. Perhaps I should switch? > >Thank you - >Matt >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 31, 2001

RE: [Wlug] anyone happy with DSL in Worcester?

by webmaster＠atari-users.net

If you are paying an extra $30 for Charter.. sounds like you have the business connection. Of which I believe you can host a site on. If you just want a static IP, that is $10 extra a month. Rob rmahlert(a)charter.net -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Aaron Haviland Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 1:19 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] anyone happy with DSL in Worcester? Richard Goodman said: > Put the house on Charter cable for a couple of weeks. I think about 6 > service calls in the first week due to signal strength problems. They > do not currently cover my office area, but may within next six > months. Got about 600-700kbps downloads from them. They do have > static IPs for an extra $10 a month, I think. Their tech support is > outsourced. Damn, they're charging me an extra $30/month for static IP... But I'm not in Worcester, and I can't get DSL. maybe they have different pricing for people that don't have any other choice? *grin* -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net Beauty is elusive. It's meant to be painted from memory, not captured in an instant with a piece of technology _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 31, 2001

Re: [Wlug] anyone happy with DSL in Worcester?

by Richard Goodman

>Hi all - > I'm new to the area.. living near the WPI campus. >Is anyone here happy with their DSL service? I've probably set the record for the number of high-bandwidth providers I've tried. I have two locations, a residence off Salisbury St and an office on Lancaster, several blocks from WPI. Started with Flashcom/Northpoint (2 DSL lines) - fairly reliable under they went bust. Service taken over by Telocity - also fairly reliable Then Northpoint went bust. Telocity offered me Verizon, so I passed. Put the house on Charter cable for a couple of weeks. I think about 6 service calls in the first week due to signal strength problems. They do not currently cover my office area, but may within next six months. Got about 600-700kbps downloads from them. They do have static IPs for an extra $10 a month, I think. Their tech support is outsourced. Put the house on Qwest Business Service SDSL as well as a third site (also near WPI). They bumble around a lot like any big organization. Lost service for a week in July due to a claimed router malfunction in Newark (took out most of Northeast for them) and the Code Red virus took all their end-user Cisco routers out for over a week before Cisco came up with a patch. They only guarantee 80% of the bandwidth you buy, and I don't ever seem to get more than that. They do get things fixed and they're big enough to be around a while. On the other hand I've got 5 static IPs from them at each location. Currently running fine. Put the office on Galaxy/Rhythms 768/384 line sharing. Complained about the speed, was only getting 620. They were genuinely concerned, tweaked the line, and left me with 1mbps. Reliability excellent. Unfortunately while on vacation 3 weeks ago I read in the Wall Street Journal that they were shutting down in 30 days (Rhythms Chapter 11). Have an order in for Speakeasy 384SDSL for the office, expect to go live with it on Sept 6th (3 weeks, a record). Speakeasy's online order status system is incredible. They use Covad. To set the record straight, Covad has filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy, but claims it will not affect the operation of their DSL network. We'll see. I've never had a provider blame Verizon for anything. Only time they were to blame, some poor Verizon voice guy disconnected the line to my home DSL. I called Qwest and there was a Verizon guy there 9am the next morning (Saturday, pouring rain) to fix it. So I guess I'm on my ninth install now. There aren't a lot of good choices left. All I know is I won't put all my eggs in any one basket again. Dick -- ------------------------------------------------- Richard Goodman dick(a)goodman1.net ---> Home: (508) 753-DICK trader(a)goodman1.net ---> Work: (508) 757-3452 voice/fax

Aug. 31, 2001

Re: [Wlug] anyone happy with DSL in Worcester?

by Aaron Haviland

Richard Goodman said: > Put the house on Charter cable for a couple of weeks. I think about 6 > service calls in the first week due to signal strength problems. They > do not currently cover my office area, but may within next six > months. Got about 600-700kbps downloads from them. They do have > static IPs for an extra $10 a month, I think. Their tech support is > outsourced. Damn, they're charging me an extra $30/month for static IP... But I'm not in Worcester, and I can't get DSL. maybe they have different pricing for people that don't have any other choice? *grin* -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net Beauty is elusive. It's meant to be painted from memory, not captured in an instant with a piece of technology

Aug. 31, 2001

Re: [Wlug] anyone using DSL in Worcester? is it working?

by Charles R . Anderson

On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 09:24:39PM -0400, Matt Pease wrote: matt> I'm wondering now, is anyone on this list in Worcester using matt> DSL? If so, with who & is it working fully now? I use Speakeasy. They are an excellent DSL company. My DSL only went down two or three times in the 8 months since I've had it. One time was to move my connection from the NYC POP to the Boston POP (providing much better connectivity in the process), and the most recent time was due to lightning blowing out my modem. They replaced it for free. I am a little worried about Covad, though. That's why I did not go for the "save $10 by paying for a year in advance" deal.

Aug. 31, 2001

anyone using DSL in Worcester? is it working?

by Matt Pease

OK.. so no cable for me. I'm wondering now, is anyone on this list in Worcester using DSL? If so, with who & is it working fully now? Thank again- Matt ps. I use linux.

Aug. 31, 2001