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Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 82, Issue 5
by Caobin zhu
Thanks,Rich.
I tried to install Draftsight but it did not go through due to an error.
caobin
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> From: Caobin zhu <globecstar(a)hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 82, Issue 4
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> Hi, everybody,
> Happy BBQ! but i am sorry i can not make it.
> One question: is there anyone using qcad in linux? it is strange that the program can not print! it does not show up my installed printer at all. Any help woud be greatly appreciated.
> i am using fedora 12 and the qcad is version 2.0.5.
>
> thanks.
> caobin
>
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> > 1. food,weather,BBQ (Doug Mildram)
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:42:32 -0400
> > From: Doug Mildram <dmildram(a)gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Wlug] food,weather,BBQ
> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
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> > If you cannot make it to the BBQ *thurs 6pm...7pm....8pm......fading near
> > 9pm...
> > sorry! (details abound, below. first, from NOAA
> > http://www.weather.gov/ wed eve,,,,,
> >
> > *Tonight: *Mostly cloudy, with a low around 60. Light east wind. (doug:
> > cool, and mint!)
> >
> > *Thursday: *A slight chance of showers after 3pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high
> > near 76. East wind between 5 and 7 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%. (
> > back to normal i guess!)
> >
> > *Thursday Night: *A slight chance of showers before 11pm. Cloudy, with a low
> > around 58.....
> >
> > doug> Either way we're rather unaffected for the party, inside+outside.
> > Party/BBQ is on the deck. Pool is clean/open/mostly_unused!
> > Party is ALSO based near the kitchen (which is near deck and grill).
> > ( upscale from last year's BBQ in the garage..... )
> > Bring a few extra paper plates, i'm low on paper plates.
> > I have all else, except the fare != green/healthy, it's:
> >
> > MENU so far
> > burgers, tomatoes,.....amer. cheese w/bulkie buns
> > sausages (12 sweet, 6 hot) w/ big torpedo or split rolls
> > tomatoes.....amer. cheese
> > salsa and 2 bags tortilla/white-corn chips (THAT might go fast)
> > ginger ale, cranberry juice, byob.... -doug
> > p.s.
> > On the directions, URL'd below one last time,
> > the cellphone# is wrong, but top# 508-869-xxxx is correct.
> > > For Worcester area:
> > >
> > >
> > http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_auburn_worc_29…
> > >
> > > From the Northwest such as Leominster:
> > >
> > >
> > http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_rte2_lancaster…
> > >
> > > From anywhere via 495:
> > >
> > > http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_495+62.txt
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> From: Richard Klein <richspk(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 82, Issue 4
> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org>
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> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Caobin zhu <globecstar(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi, everybody,
> > Happy BBQ! but i am sorry i can not make it.
> > One question: is there anyone using qcad in linux? it is strange that?the
> > program can not print! it does not show up my?installed printer at all.
> > Any?help woud be greatly appreciated.
> > i am using fedora 12 and the qcad is version 2.0.5.
>
> I haven't used qcad, but I've been using Draftsight on Windows for a
> couple months. I don't think it's open source [1], but it's the best
> _free_ CAD software I've used to date, and a Linux version is supposed
> to be out later this year.
> http://www.draftsight.com/
>
> --
> Rich
> [1] I don't know that it's not, either...
>
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Aug. 14, 2010
Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 82, Issue 4
by Richard Klein
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Caobin zhu <globecstar(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, everybody,
> Happy BBQ! but i am sorry i can not make it.
> One question: is there anyone using qcad in linux? it is strange that the
> program can not print! it does not show up my installed printer at all.
> Any help woud be greatly appreciated.
> i am using fedora 12 and the qcad is version 2.0.5.
I haven't used qcad, but I've been using Draftsight on Windows for a
couple months. I don't think it's open source [1], but it's the best
_free_ CAD software I've used to date, and a Linux version is supposed
to be out later this year.
http://www.draftsight.com/
--
Rich
[1] I don't know that it's not, either...
Aug. 12, 2010
Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 82, Issue 4
by Caobin zhu
Hi, everybody,
Happy BBQ! but i am sorry i can not make it.
One question: is there anyone using qcad in linux? it is strange that the program can not print! it does not show up my installed printer at all. Any help woud be greatly appreciated.
i am using fedora 12 and the qcad is version 2.0.5.
thanks.
caobin
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> Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 82, Issue 4
> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:00:03 -0400
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> 1. food,weather,BBQ (Doug Mildram)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:42:32 -0400
> From: Doug Mildram <dmildram(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [Wlug] food,weather,BBQ
> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
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> If you cannot make it to the BBQ *thurs 6pm...7pm....8pm......fading near
> 9pm...
> sorry! (details abound, below. first, from NOAA
> http://www.weather.gov/ wed eve,,,,,
>
> *Tonight: *Mostly cloudy, with a low around 60. Light east wind. (doug:
> cool, and mint!)
>
> *Thursday: *A slight chance of showers after 3pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high
> near 76. East wind between 5 and 7 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%. (
> back to normal i guess!)
>
> *Thursday Night: *A slight chance of showers before 11pm. Cloudy, with a low
> around 58.....
>
> doug> Either way we're rather unaffected for the party, inside+outside.
> Party/BBQ is on the deck. Pool is clean/open/mostly_unused!
> Party is ALSO based near the kitchen (which is near deck and grill).
> ( upscale from last year's BBQ in the garage..... )
> Bring a few extra paper plates, i'm low on paper plates.
> I have all else, except the fare != green/healthy, it's:
>
> MENU so far
> burgers, tomatoes,.....amer. cheese w/bulkie buns
> sausages (12 sweet, 6 hot) w/ big torpedo or split rolls
> tomatoes.....amer. cheese
> salsa and 2 bags tortilla/white-corn chips (THAT might go fast)
> ginger ale, cranberry juice, byob.... -doug
> p.s.
> On the directions, URL'd below one last time,
> the cellphone# is wrong, but top# 508-869-xxxx is correct.
> > For Worcester area:
> >
> >
> http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_auburn_worc_29…
> >
> > From the Northwest such as Leominster:
> >
> >
> http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_rte2_lancaster…
> >
> > From anywhere via 495:
> >
> > http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_495+62.txt
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Aug. 12, 2010
food,weather,BBQ
by Doug Mildram
If you cannot make it to the BBQ *thurs 6pm...7pm....8pm......fading near
9pm...
sorry! (details abound, below. first, from NOAA
http://www.weather.gov/ wed eve,,,,,
*Tonight: *Mostly cloudy, with a low around 60. Light east wind. (doug:
cool, and mint!)
*Thursday: *A slight chance of showers after 3pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high
near 76. East wind between 5 and 7 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%. (
back to normal i guess!)
*Thursday Night: *A slight chance of showers before 11pm. Cloudy, with a low
around 58.....
doug> Either way we're rather unaffected for the party, inside+outside.
Party/BBQ is on the deck. Pool is clean/open/mostly_unused!
Party is ALSO based near the kitchen (which is near deck and grill).
( upscale from last year's BBQ in the garage..... )
Bring a few extra paper plates, i'm low on paper plates.
I have all else, except the fare != green/healthy, it's:
MENU so far
burgers, tomatoes,.....amer. cheese w/bulkie buns
sausages (12 sweet, 6 hot) w/ big torpedo or split rolls
tomatoes.....amer. cheese
salsa and 2 bags tortilla/white-corn chips (THAT might go fast)
ginger ale, cranberry juice, byob.... -doug
p.s.
On the directions, URL'd below one last time,
the cellphone# is wrong, but top# 508-869-xxxx is correct.
> For Worcester area:
>
>
http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_auburn_worc_29…
>
> From the Northwest such as Leominster:
>
>
http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_rte2_lancaster…
>
> From anywhere via 495:
>
> http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_495+62.txt
Aug. 12, 2010
Reminder: BBQ this Thursday August 12 6pm, Boylston, MA
by Chuck Anderson
Consider this your reminder for the BBQ this Thursday! Rain or shine,
we're on. I'm told that the mosquitos are non-existant this year!
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:08:30AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> Hi WLUG members,
>
> It's that time a year again for the WLUG BBQ! Thanks to Doug Mildram
> for hosting again this year. We will be holding the BBQ on the
> scheduled date of our next meeting, but starting at 6pm:
>
> Thursday, August 12 at 6:00 PM
>
> Doug has provided these directions and contact information:
>
> For Worcester area:
>
> http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_auburn_worc_29…
>
> From the Northwest such as Leominster:
>
> http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_rte2_lancaster…
>
> From anywhere via 495:
>
> http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_495+62.txt
>
> WLUG will supply burgers, hot dogs, rolls/buns, condiments, paper
> products, soda, etc. BYOB, dessert, and other food/snack items as you
> like.
>
> Please email Doug (dmildram(a)gmail.com) with any questions.
>
> I look forward to seeing everyone there!
> Chuck
Aug. 9, 2010
Job posting: Looking for Drupal developers
by Tatsh
We have 1-2 positions open for PHP developers who are familiar with CMS's.
- Drupal (what we are mainly seeking)
- Module developers
- Extremely familiar with the API (if hooks doesn't sound like a familiar
term then we are not looking for you; sorry)
- Strong knowledge of SQL (we mainly use MySQL DBs)
- Strong knowledge of PHP
- Theme development
- Strong knowledge of CSS, including IE fixes and quirks (forcing IE
quirks mode is last resort)
- Strong knowledge of HTML/XHTML and semantics; simplest HTML possible
(not using a million divs; not using tables for layout)
- Familiarity with mobile site development
- Able to keep/make fallbacks for those lacking JS or other features
(familiarity with a 'enhancement as enhancements come along' kind of
development; not a 'worse commmon denominator' development style)
- Joomla
- Able to work with the back-end and customise it
- Themers (same skills as Drupal)
- Module development a plus
- vBulletin
- Templates familiarity
- General familiarity with the back-end
- Modules/products development is a plus (so familiarity with the terribly
documented API is a plus)
- Magento is a plus
- Module development (we do not need themers at the moment)
If you know PHP that's great but we really are looking for the above mentioned
skills, not just PHP.
Also we are looking for Flash developers for small things that will heavily
use DBs for data, not their own internal data. Basically if we can say we need
X and you can produce it genericised enough to work with any CMS or anything
custom that we have already made but just needs the Flash element to be
finished.
We have an OpenSolaris server. All the GNU core utils are there as well as
their POSIX-standard versions (default). Emacs, Vim, etc installed. We use
Subversion for versioning so familiarity with that is a plus. We keep a KB so
anything that is funky can be documented nicely.
This is contract work; pay is hourly. No payments will be made until the
contract is signed.
Call me (contact information below). If I'm not there, please be sure to leave
a message or you may try my cell 978-870-5908.
Thanks all
--
Andrew Udvare, Development
ASIM Design // Marketing, Branding, Web
Main - 253.236.0074 x501
Direct - 314.227.0726 Fax - 206.339.8760
Web - andrew(a)asimdesign.net - www.asimdesign.net
Aug. 6, 2010
Job posting
by Mike Leo
https://jobs-akamai.icims.com/jobs/4149/job
Just spreading the word.
Check out all the postings, too. We seem to have a lot.
There is a referral bonus so I'd appreciate a mention, but do as you will.
~Mike
Aug. 6, 2010
Re: [Wlug] Truly Ancient Laptop
by Jason Couture
Will do, Probably wont be until later this week.
--
Jason Couture
Worcester Computer Services
Business Phone: 508-921-0253
Cellular Phone: 508-471-0131
Web: http://www.worcestercomputerservices.com/
Business Address: couture.jason(a)worcestercomputerservices.com
Personal Address: plaguethenet(a)gmail.com
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> Okay, stop by next time you're in Worcester.
> 507-471-4407 (H) or 508-667-0657 (M).
> Hudson St. -- second house in from Elm St just off Park Ave & just off Elm Park.
> I'm usually around but call first just in case & to let me know when.
>
> Glad to find this unit a good home.
>
> Thanks,
> Liz
>
> On 31 July 2010 14:13, Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I love collecting old computers, Like people collect coins i suppose.
>> If no one else wants it ill take it off your hands.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jason Couture
>> Worcester Computer Services
>> Business Phone: 508-921-0253
>> Cellular Phone: 508-471-0131
>> Web: http://www.worcestercomputerservices.com/
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>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:47 AM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> We have here an ancient laptop -- Epson ActionNote 4SLC2-50. Belonged
>>> to my ancient father, who thought I might find some use for it.
>>>
>>> It's about 12" x 10" x 2" and not terribly light for its size. Built
>>> like a small tank --appears to be somewhat indestructible. Comes in
>>> its own rather decent black leather-like case.
>>>
>>> Has modem, battery brick, diskette drive, PS2 port, parallel port, two
>>> serial ports and a phone jack. It even comes with its own PS2 mouse
>>> which has a very stylish decal of Tweety Bird.
>>>
>>> The user guide is dated 1993. This runs Windows MS-DOS-whatever it
>>> was, still has operating system installed. Worked fine last time we
>>> turned it on. Memory is upgraable.
>>>
>>> I hope someone can give this a good home. Maybe you have a computer
>>> museum in your basement --this would be the perfect addition. Maybe
>>> you need this to run some special utilities at home...
>>> I'm sure this is infinitely modifiable.
>>> Hate to send this poor thing to the dump. Daddy is still living...
>>> would like to be able to tell him (if he ever asks) that the old
>>> laptop has been happily repurposed.
>>>
>>> We're located in a very easy-to-find spot in Worcester, less than a
>>> block off Elm Park.
>>>
>>> Someone must need this unit. We want you to want this.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Liz J
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