September 2009 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] Linux on the XO-1

by soup

Nick Nassar wrote: > > PCF has an XO-1. I played with it when they first got it. “Sugar” runs > on top of Fedora, so there’s no real reason to re-install unless you > want Debian or Ubuntu. I’m too lazy to find instructions on how to get > it to boot into XFCE instead of Sugar. I seem to remember you could > basically “yum install“ your way to a full desktop. > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Software_components > Yeah, I looked in to just installing xfce or even just keeping it at runlevel3 but the official repository doesn't have much. Not to mention I'm used to deb anyway. The XFCE instructions are on the olpc wiki, for those interested. It's an excellent resource for some things. > > > Overall, I wouldn’t recommend it for adults-- it really is designed > for children. Sugar has lots of awesome stuff for creativity and > learning, but it’s not designed to let typical users do work. On the > hardware end, the keyboard is child sized, the CPU is too slow to run > a typical Linux desktop well, and there’s no support for hibernating > to disk. > I think it's a great little machine, the display is definitely one of the best I've seen at the size. The keyboard is a bit small but it's not unusable, at least it's got the keys in sane places, unlike some small machines (dell mini). I think it makes the perfect portable terminal or ebook reader. Parts are very cheap and it's not difficult to work on. It's a bit like a more modern HPLX machine, though a little larger. Power management support- with the stock build is very recent anyway. I don't think it could even suspend to ram until earlier this year. I'm not certain how many more updates it'll get with the two new hardware versions (and windows) coming. That's one of my main reasons for sniffing around for alternatives. :) Take care, James

Sept. 23, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Linux on the XO-1

by soup

Adam Keck wrote: > Hi James, > > I haven't looked into getting full Linux onto my XO yet, but I want > to get more use out of it. If you do get a distro onto yours, could > you post an outline of your process? I can, but I'll just be following the directions written by people better versed than me. > > On a separate note, did you have keyboard trouble with yours? Mine > suffered the notorious "sticking ctrl key" issue, so I had to disable > the built-in keyboard. :-/. Haven't had any keyboard trouble with mine. I wouldn't bother using it if I couldn't use the keyboard. I know replacements are ridiculous cheap though. I think the keyboard is $18. http://www.ilovemyxo.com > > Thanks, > > -Adam

Sept. 23, 2009

Unable to make it tonight... still planning on presenting in Oct.

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, I'll be unable to make it to the meeting tonight, however I still plan on doing a talk next month on "pygame". What's "pygame" you ask?!? "pygame" is a set of python libraries that wrap SDL written in C and assembler. These libraries take the nitty gritty out of writing games with python, or as they put it "we take the pure out of game development". I'm going to talk about the libraries in depth (with slides), show off a silly game I've written and then dive into the code of the game so you can see how absurdity easy it is to use. Obviously my talk is going to be python centric, but no worries. I'm using this as an excuse to teach myself python so it'll be educational to the python guru and the python neophyte alike. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 23, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Linux on the XO-1

by Adam Keck

Well not for general computing, but I find it to be a nice PDF reader with its nifty screen. ;-) While I like the reader in Sugar, I want to see how well the other FOSS readers work on the platform. If I get some time, I might take your suggestion to simply yum install a light-weight desktop. Thanks, -Adam On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Nick Nassar <nassar(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > PCF has an XO-1. I played with it when they first got it. “Sugar” runs on > top of Fedora, so there’s no real reason to re-install unless you want > Debian or Ubuntu. I’m too lazy to find instructions on how to get it to boot > into XFCE instead of Sugar. I seem to remember you could basically “yum > install“ your way to a full desktop. > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Software_components > > > > Overall, I wouldn’t recommend it for adults-- it really is designed for > children. Sugar has lots of awesome stuff for creativity and learning, but > it’s not designed to let typical users do work. On the hardware end, the > keyboard is child sized, the CPU is too slow to run a typical Linux desktop > well, and there’s no support for hibernating to disk. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] *On > Behalf Of *Adam Keck > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:22 AM > *To:* Worcester Linux Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [Wlug] Linux on the XO-1 > > > > Hi James, > > I haven't looked into getting full Linux onto my XO yet, but I want to > get more use out of it. If you do get a distro onto yours, could you post > an outline of your process? > > On a separate note, did you have keyboard trouble with yours? Mine > suffered the notorious "sticking ctrl key" issue, so I had to disable the > built-in keyboard. :-/. > > Thanks, > > -Adam > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:30 AM, soup <soupforare(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm looking for it- something that isn't Sugar, anyway. The two popular > ones seem to be DebXO and teapot's ubuntu build. > Has anyone played with either of these? > > Take care, > James > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Sept. 23, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Linux on the XO-1

by Nick Nassar

PCF has an XO-1. I played with it when they first got it. “Sugar” runs on top of Fedora, so there’s no real reason to re-install unless you want Debian or Ubuntu. I’m too lazy to find instructions on how to get it to boot into XFCE instead of Sugar. I seem to remember you could basically “yum install“ your way to a full desktop. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Software_components Overall, I wouldn’t recommend it for adults-- it really is designed for children. Sugar has lots of awesome stuff for creativity and learning, but it’s not designed to let typical users do work. On the hardware end, the keyboard is child sized, the CPU is too slow to run a typical Linux desktop well, and there’s no support for hibernating to disk. _____ From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Adam Keck Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:22 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Linux on the XO-1 Hi James, I haven't looked into getting full Linux onto my XO yet, but I want to get more use out of it. If you do get a distro onto yours, could you post an outline of your process? On a separate note, did you have keyboard trouble with yours? Mine suffered the notorious "sticking ctrl key" issue, so I had to disable the built-in keyboard. :-/. Thanks, -Adam On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:30 AM, soup <soupforare(a)gmail.com> wrote: I'm looking for it- something that isn't Sugar, anyway. The two popular ones seem to be DebXO and teapot's ubuntu build. Has anyone played with either of these? Take care, James _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 23, 2009

WPI ACM Installfest

by Billy Hnath

Hi all, Sorry to say that I wont be able to make the meeting tonight because I have class, but I figured I would talk to you all in email so you may be able to discuss this tonight. I am the ACM president at WPI and on October 2nd we are having an Installfest starting at 7pm in Fuller Labs. I am in the process of getting some speakers from various linux distros and O'Reilly for a panel discussion/Q&A session and afterwords we will have an installfest in one of the labs. If anyone here is interesting in attending or even better interested in talking/volunteering to help with the Install that would be much appreciated. You can reach me by email (bill.hnath(a)gmail.com) with any questions. Thanks for your time and have a great meeting tonight, --Billy -- William R. Hnath, Jr Worcester Polytechnic Institute Class of 2010 Alpha Chi Rho - Delta Sigma Phi Chapter

Sept. 23, 2009

Linux on the XO-1

by soup

I'm looking for it- something that isn't Sugar, anyway. The two popular ones seem to be DebXO and teapot's ubuntu build. Has anyone played with either of these? Take care, James

Sept. 23, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Linux on the XO-1

by Adam Keck

Hi James, I haven't looked into getting full Linux onto my XO yet, but I want to get more use out of it. If you do get a distro onto yours, could you post an outline of your process? On a separate note, did you have keyboard trouble with yours? Mine suffered the notorious "sticking ctrl key" issue, so I had to disable the built-in keyboard. :-/. Thanks, -Adam On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:30 AM, soup <soupforare(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm looking for it- something that isn't Sugar, anyway. The two popular > ones seem to be DebXO and teapot's ubuntu build. > Has anyone played with either of these? > > Take care, > James > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 23, 2009

Reminder: WLUG Meeting on Wednesday, 23-sept-2009

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI everybody, I don't have confirmation on our meeting room for this meeting, so if you don't hear anything, please meet outside of the Access Grid room (our old meeting room), and we'll go from there. Unfortunately, I do not have access to my home email while at work, so that's why I'm sending this now. See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKuXphOjiraCaOTOoRAiCbAJ9cbGBPZepvHhIdYe8+6SZcGt3RPgCfRncV xqr5hCOwaFBV9SL7xwy8jPo= =Ewng -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 23, 2009

REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting on Wednesday, 7 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Everybody, Our next WLUG meeting will be on Wednesday evening, 7:00 PM, somewhere on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. Our guest speaker will be Mike Bauer, and his talk will be a legal interpretation of the GPL. Mike has degrees in both law and computer science. Mike plans to discuss: a) The GNU philosophy behind the GPL, both from freedom and copyleft perspectives b) A brief introduction to copyright law c) Scholarly papers (law review articles, other non-case-law analysis) on the GPL d) Cases dealing with the GPL When I know the actual meeting room, I'll let you know. I look forward to seeing you on Wednesday. Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKtYhiOjiraCaOTOoRAldmAKCpR2wGo1RRO4KE9u1FPU4yEu+R7gCbBGut f2xLKDf7XoiPIao+jhpSME8= =NwgC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 20, 2009