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Re: [Wlug] xbiff

by Jeff Kinz

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 08:49:38AM -0500, Martin, Eric J. wrote: > what's xbiff? "biff": name of the pet dog of one of the original (1970-190's) coders. Dog used to bark whenever the mailman came. Program created to announce when you got email was named after that "biff". Xwindows version of same functionality became "xbiff". replacement? hmm - my email clients seem to let me know without extra features. -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Jared Greenwald

Did you get my message about embedded Gentoo? On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:54:39 -0500, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:47 pm, Jared Greenwald wrote: > > The answer to all of these questions is one simple word: Gentoo. > > i dont think that's the answer he was looking for though ;) > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 31, 2005

RE: [Wlug] xbiff

by Martin, Eric J.

what's xbiff? -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mills-Curran [mailto:bill@mills-curran.net] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:47 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] xbiff Now that xbiff is gone (not in fc3), what's a good replacement? I've gotten a lot of good use out of xbiff & use it to notify me about a number of things. I'm surprised it's gone, but I guess it's time to move on. Suggestions? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 31, 2005

xbiff

by Bill Mills-Curran

Now that xbiff is gone (not in fc3), what's a good replacement? I've gotten a lot of good use out of xbiff & use it to notify me about a number of things. I'm surprised it's gone, but I guess it's time to move on. Suggestions? Thanks, Bill

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Adam Keck

Matt, > 2. Is it possible to not use any package group at all and simply > select the packages I want ? In this case I would just list out all > the rpms in the @core group and thats it .. possibly some extras. > Assuming you have a machine to play with this is an easy experiment to do. Do a "minimal" install and then harvest the kickstart file from /~root and save a list of the installed packages. Delete all the packages at the end of the kickstart file then list only the ones you want. Try an install with the new kickstart file. One of two things will happen depending what flags you have in the kickstart. Either the installer will autoselect any dependencies you are missing or the install will fail on missing dependencies. If your kickstart file is configured for the first option you can compare the package list on the new install to the "minimal" configuration package list. If the package lists are nearly the same then the minimal install is truly minimal and you are stuck with ~500mb. If the package list is smaller then you will be closer to a your goal. My guess is that RedHat chose the "base" and "core" nomenclature for a reason. Every other package depends on those packages. Good luck! -Adam

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Matt Higgins

As I said in my 1st message FC is a requirement. I have no choice. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:54:39 -0500, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:47 pm, Jared Greenwald wrote: > > The answer to all of these questions is one simple word: Gentoo. > > i dont think that's the answer he was looking for though ;) > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Mike Frysinger

On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:47 pm, Jared Greenwald wrote: > The answer to all of these questions is one simple word: Gentoo. i dont think that's the answer he was looking for though ;) -mike

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Jared Greenwald

The answer to all of these questions is one simple word: Gentoo. I switched to Gentoo a couple years ago when I got fed up with the Redhat/Fedora installer. (I actually interviewed for a job there recently and told the author of the installer - Jeff Katz - I hated it to his face during the interview - needless to say I now work at Oracle.) I've found that for the machine that you want absolute minute control over each package and when you want only the minimum possible packages Gentoo is the answer. I also like it on desktop systems, but you really need something pretty fast or a lot of spare time as Xorg, KDE/Gnome and the mozilla suite take many hours to compile. But that's just my $.02... -Jared On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:44:59 -0500, Matt Higgins <matt.higgins(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am attempting a minimal fc3 install <500 MB, I was shooting for > <200MB. Looking at the @core package group from comps.xml. My > calculations show this group to be about 130MB and its description tag > reads "<description>Smallest possible installation</description>". > However the "Minimal Install" from the installer is about 530MB. With > some research it looks like, the minimal install is not just @core but > also @base and @dialup. I can easily exclude @dialup by setting the > uservisible tag to true and unselecting this package group. When I try > the same for @base it does not show up in the package selection list? > > So my questions are these > > 1. Is it possible though some ks syntax to exclude a default package > group from my kickstart config ? i.e. -@ PackageGroup ? If this were > possible I may be able to try -@base and -@dialup > leaving only @core. > > 2. Is it possible to not use any package group at all and simply > select the packages I want ? In this case I would just list out all > the rpms in the @core group and thats it .. possibly some extras. > > 3. Is there a way to create your own core package group.. this would > sever the same purpose as number 2 but possibly make it more flexible. > Note I know you can create your own extra package groups my goal is to > modify the existing @core group. > > Some other things to note.. I have to use Fedora and I would like to > have the kickstart totally unattended. I basically have the install > unattended with PXE,TFTP,NFS,DHCP but .. I need to tweak the packages. > > -Matt > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 31, 2005

KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Matt Higgins

I am attempting a minimal fc3 install <500 MB, I was shooting for <200MB. Looking at the @core package group from comps.xml. My calculations show this group to be about 130MB and its description tag reads "<description>Smallest possible installation</description>". However the "Minimal Install" from the installer is about 530MB. With some research it looks like, the minimal install is not just @core but also @base and @dialup. I can easily exclude @dialup by setting the uservisible tag to true and unselecting this package group. When I try the same for @base it does not show up in the package selection list? So my questions are these 1. Is it possible though some ks syntax to exclude a default package group from my kickstart config ? i.e. -@ PackageGroup ? If this were possible I may be able to try -@base and -@dialup leaving only @core. 2. Is it possible to not use any package group at all and simply select the packages I want ? In this case I would just list out all the rpms in the @core group and thats it .. possibly some extras. 3. Is there a way to create your own core package group.. this would sever the same purpose as number 2 but possibly make it more flexible. Note I know you can create your own extra package groups my goal is to modify the existing @core group. Some other things to note.. I have to use Fedora and I would like to have the kickstart totally unattended. I basically have the install unattended with PXE,TFTP,NFS,DHCP but .. I need to tweak the packages. -Matt

Jan. 31, 2005

[OT] Yet Another Perl Conference North America 2005 announces call-for-papers

by glim＠mycybernet.net

YAPC::NA 2005 (Yet Another Perl Conference, North America) has just released its call-for-papers; potential and aspiring speakers can submit a presentation proposal via: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml The dates of the conference are Monday - Wednesday 27-29 June 2005. The location will be in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Note that a different date block was previously announced, but has been moved to accomodate venue availability.) The close of the call-for-papers is April 18, 2005 at 11:59 pm. If you have any questions regarding the call-for-papers or speaking at YAPC::NA 2005 please email na-author(a)yapc.org We would love to hear from potential sponsors. Please contact the organizers at na-sponsor(a)yapc.org to learn about the benefits of sponsorship. Other information regarding the conference (e.g. venue, registration specifics) will be announced soon. We look forward to your submissions and a great conference!

Jan. 29, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Mailing list server upgrade

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 26 January 2005 7:05 pm, Frank Sweetser wrote: > The server and mailing list are back up. Thanks, Frank! - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB+ESCHl0iXDssISsRAkz1AJ9iEzQ0ZLEOlZtrHGbtIaCw7n6BkgCeLTy3 8xBVpCCr4oojMTc9IFgb8do= =r34J -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 27, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Mailing list server upgrade

by Frank Sweetser

The server and mailing list are back up. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Jan. 27, 2005

Mailing list server upgrade

by Frank Sweetser

The server that hosts the WLUG mailing list will be upgraded today from RH9 to FC3, so the mailing list will be temporarily unavailable. All subscriptions and configuration should remain unchanged. I'll send out another email to the list when the upgrade is complete. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Jan. 26, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Wireless and FC3

by Mike Leo

Never mind! Its working!! --- Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I have a new Dell D400 with a Broadcom 4309 wireless > card and I have installed FC3 and ndiswrapper. I > have > installed the "correct" Windows .inf file and > everybody is happy. > > when I iwlist wlan0 scan, it lists all the WAP's I > can > see correctly. > > However, I cannot get an IP address via DHCP, and > assigning one staticaly does not work. When i > dhclient wlan0, it finds the WAP, and the DHCP > server, > but refuses to accept an IP. > > My guess is that the ndiswrapper "trick" isn't > working > for this driver. > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks > Mike > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

Jan. 26, 2005

Websphere MQ Messaging

by Andrew Robert

Hi Everyone, If anyone is interested, I've been compiling some documentation on IBM WebSphere MQ Messaging for the Unix/Linux environment. You can find it on my web site located at http://shardservant.no- ip.info:8080 . -- Andrew Robert <arobert(a)townisp.com>

Jan. 25, 2005

Wireless and FC3

by Mike Leo

I have a new Dell D400 with a Broadcom 4309 wireless card and I have installed FC3 and ndiswrapper. I have installed the "correct" Windows .inf file and everybody is happy. when I iwlist wlan0 scan, it lists all the WAP's I can see correctly. However, I cannot get an IP address via DHCP, and assigning one staticaly does not work. When i dhclient wlan0, it finds the WAP, and the DHCP server, but refuses to accept an IP. My guess is that the ndiswrapper "trick" isn't working for this driver. Any thoughts? Thanks Mike __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Jan. 25, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba printer config

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 06:31:12PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I'm floundering trying to get my fedora 3 machine to act as a print > server for an WinXP machine. The linux box is freshly built, and I > just moved my printer from my redhat 9 machine. > > What works: > > 1. Local printing. It's a USB printer, and it worked just fine from > the CUPS setup. > > What doesn't: > > 1. I can't "add printer" on the WinXP machine. > > 2. When I start the smb daemon, I get the following in the smbd log: > > [2005/01/22 18:14:51, 0] printing/nt_printing.c:nt_printing_init(383) > nt_printing_init: error checking published printers: > WERR_ACCESS_DENIED > > This looks like the problem to me, but I'm not sure. When I try to > add the printer in WinXP, I get a popup "Windows cannot connect to the > printer. Operation could not be completed." > > So, I'm stuck. (And under pressure -- my wife can't print!) > > Any advice? > > Thanks, > Bill After trying "everything", including building an older version of samba, I discovered that I had left the "security = share" out of the config file. Just another case of fat-fingering the file. Bill

Jan. 24, 2005

Re: [Wlug] audio on new machine

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 10:49:32AM -0500, Keller, Tim wrote: > Well... it's not being utterly depreciated, it's being superseded with > "udev". Basically, the /dev directory has become dynamic. > > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html > > Explains it quite nicely. > > Tim. > > On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 23:01 -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > > > From: Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 09:50:22AM -0500, Keller, Tim wrote: > > > > > > > > You do realize that the /dev/ stuff is being progressively > > depreciated... > > > > Tim. > > > > > > Yeah, I've read about /dev going away, but I have no experience > > with > > > the replacement. > > > > > > BTW, you guys on WLUG are a tremendous resource. > > > > > > Bill > > > > Oh No! Don't let /dev go away! > > > > One of the first things I ever did with my first Linux system back in > > 1996 was accidentally delete /dev. The result was just horrible; > > I don't think I can take that again. > > > > Seriously, I haven't heard that /dev is deprecated. > > Who deprecates it? Where can I read about it going away? > > I assume the deprecator has a new plan well documented somewhere... > > > > -- Keith It turns out the solution was easy (Charles suggested it) -- upgrade. I can't find where the upgrade made the difference, but both my scanner and my cdrom behave now. I've got the right symlinks, too. Just a tip... Don't try to figure out the udev stuff in a hurry. It will make your head hurt. Bill

Jan. 24, 2005

RE: [Wlug] samba printer config

by Jared Greenwald

Not sure what version of samba you are running (I'm running 3.0.9-r1), but I almost exactly copied the config files from the samba howto for a small business network (chapter 4 or 5) and it worked like a champ on the first try. Then again, my file/print server is running Gentoo. Are you sure that your config files are correct? Do you have the permissions setup correctly (ie through a guest or something)? -Jared >From: Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> >Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)wlug.org> >Subject: [Wlug] samba printer config >Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:31:12 -0500 > >I'm floundering trying to get my fedora 3 machine to act as a print >server for an WinXP machine. The linux box is freshly built, and I >just moved my printer from my redhat 9 machine. > >What works: > >1. Local printing. It's a USB printer, and it worked just fine from >the CUPS setup. > >What doesn't: > >1. I can't "add printer" on the WinXP machine. > >2. When I start the smb daemon, I get the following in the smbd log: > >[2005/01/22 18:14:51, 0] printing/nt_printing.c:nt_printing_init(383) > nt_printing_init: error checking published printers: > WERR_ACCESS_DENIED > >This looks like the problem to me, but I'm not sure. When I try to >add the printer in WinXP, I get a popup "Windows cannot connect to the >printer. Operation could not be completed." > >So, I'm stuck. (And under pressure -- my wife can't print!) > >Any advice? > >Thanks, >Bill > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba printer config

by Charles R. Anderson

On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 06:52:04PM -0500, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 06:31:12PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > 2. When I start the smb daemon, I get the following in the smbd log: > > > > [2005/01/22 18:14:51, 0] printing/nt_printing.c:nt_printing_init(383) > > nt_printing_init: error checking published printers: > > WERR_ACCESS_DENIED > > When was the last up2date run? Things are moving so quickly these > days, that you may have encountered a bug that has already been fixed > in an update. > > cups has been updated 4 times since FC3 release. > samba has been updated 2 times since FC3 release. > selinux-policy-targeted has been updated 9 times since FC3 release. Looks like it hasn't been fixed yet: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=139477

Jan. 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba printer config

by Charles R. Anderson

On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 06:31:12PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > 2. When I start the smb daemon, I get the following in the smbd log: > > [2005/01/22 18:14:51, 0] printing/nt_printing.c:nt_printing_init(383) > nt_printing_init: error checking published printers: > WERR_ACCESS_DENIED When was the last up2date run? Things are moving so quickly these days, that you may have encountered a bug that has already been fixed in an update. cups has been updated 4 times since FC3 release. samba has been updated 2 times since FC3 release. selinux-policy-targeted has been updated 9 times since FC3 release.

Jan. 22, 2005

samba printer config

by Bill Mills-Curran

I'm floundering trying to get my fedora 3 machine to act as a print server for an WinXP machine. The linux box is freshly built, and I just moved my printer from my redhat 9 machine. What works: 1. Local printing. It's a USB printer, and it worked just fine from the CUPS setup. What doesn't: 1. I can't "add printer" on the WinXP machine. 2. When I start the smb daemon, I get the following in the smbd log: [2005/01/22 18:14:51, 0] printing/nt_printing.c:nt_printing_init(383) nt_printing_init: error checking published printers: WERR_ACCESS_DENIED This looks like the problem to me, but I'm not sure. When I try to add the printer in WinXP, I get a popup "Windows cannot connect to the printer. Operation could not be completed." So, I'm stuck. (And under pressure -- my wife can't print!) Any advice? Thanks, Bill

Jan. 22, 2005

Soundcard gone bad?

by Michael Long

Hi, I have a soundblaster pro sound card that has been working well for several years. Tonight with I started xmms to listen to some music I get a very distorted sound at a very low volume. To test whether the speakers my be the problem I unplugged the external speakers and plugged in a set of headphones directly into the card and get no sound out of the headphones. The last time I listened to music everything was working well. The machine has not been rebooted since the last time I used the sound system. Is there anything else I can do to determine if the soundcard has failed or if the problem lies elsewhere. Thanks, Mike

Jan. 22, 2005

Re: [Wlug] LTSP Linux Administration.

by Jeff Kinz

On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 01:42:44PM -0500, Patrick Sawyer wrote: > Howdy, > We at the Worcester Computer Co-Op had an install fest a while ago > where a few people said they might be able to do some administration > for us. If anyone is still up to the task we would very much > appreciate it. This is what we need. > > 1.Updating our network with new software (this can probably be done remotely?) I may be able to help with some of this. Are you talking about moving to a release 4 version of LTSP? > 2.Getting more machines on the network( we have a strange system, but > have 30 computers which are exactly the same and could be used for for > the network. if someone could figure out how to get one on the network > we could easily get all of them) What is the configuration of these machines? > > > Thanks to all who have helped in the past your time made it possible > to give 10 computers to 10 families!!!! > > Patrick Sawyer > Worcester Computer Co-Op > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Linux/Open Source: Your infrastructure belongs to you, free, forever. Idealism: "Realism applied over a longer time period" http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/ http://kinz.org http://www.fedoratracker.org http://www.fedorafaq.org http://www.fedoranews.org Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA.

Jan. 22, 2005

LTSP Linux Administration.

by Patrick Sawyer

Howdy, We at the Worcester Computer Co-Op had an install fest a while ago where a few people said they might be able to do some administration for us. If anyone is still up to the task we would very much appreciate it. This is what we need. 1.Updating our network with new software (this can probably be done remotely?) 2.Getting more machines on the network( we have a strange system, but have 30 computers which are exactly the same and could be used for for the network. if someone could figure out how to get one on the network we could easily get all of them) Thanks to all who have helped in the past your time made it possible to give 10 computers to 10 families!!!! Patrick Sawyer Worcester Computer Co-Op

Jan. 22, 2005