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RH8.0 user in Worc. area

by Pete Wason

Hiall! I'm wondering if anybody's using RH8.0 and could assist me in a general package updating/security audit/admin session. Nothing too crazy, I just need some help grokking alternatives to up2date (yum, etc.) and making sure my server isn't bleeding wildly from it's little pointed head. I live in Sutton.. Pete

Sept. 28, 2005

Re: [Wlug] pipermail, Mailman and FreeBSD

by Ken Jones

Thank you, Rob, That is the solution to my problem. Ken Webmaster wrote: > Ken Jones wrote: > >> I have been the moderator for a Mailman list running on FreeBSD for a >> few years. >> >> This afternoon I received an email from a list member informing me >> that any and all of the emails that have transpired are available for >> the public to see via altavista or google. All that is needed is a >> couple of key words that are in the mail text. >> >> Here is an example of what is available. Go to google and type in as >> key words, >> ["Where we live" Mahood Geneseo] >> >> The following appears. >> <www.employees.org/pipermail/york_fifty_two/2004-September/000253.html> >> >> If you go there and click on [Messages sorted by [Thread]] you get a >> complete archive. >> I had never heard of pipermail 0.09. Do you all know what it is, how >> it works and how to disable it? >> >> Ken Jones >> > If you administer the list via the mailman web interface, on the > "Archival Options" page. Turn the "Is archive file source for public > or private archival?" to private. > > Rob M > >

Sept. 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] pipermail, Mailman and FreeBSD

by Webmaster

Ken Jones wrote: > I have been the moderator for a Mailman list running on FreeBSD for a > few years. > > This afternoon I received an email from a list member informing me > that any and all of the emails that have transpired are available for > the public to see via altavista or google. All that is needed is a > couple of key words that are in the mail text. > > Here is an example of what is available. Go to google and type in as > key words, > ["Where we live" Mahood Geneseo] > > The following appears. > <www.employees.org/pipermail/york_fifty_two/2004-September/000253.html> > > If you go there and click on [Messages sorted by [Thread]] you get a > complete archive. > I had never heard of pipermail 0.09. Do you all know what it is, how > it works and how to disable it? > > Ken Jones > If you administer the list via the mailman web interface, on the "Archival Options" page. Turn the "Is archive file source for public or private archival?" to private. Rob M

Sept. 23, 2005

pipermail, Mailman and FreeBSD

by Ken Jones

Sept. 23, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Bad x11 package from fedora

by Arllen

Cretella, Michael A wrote: > Bump that, I installed the same bad package on FC4, I ended up formatting > anyways, going to give Kubuntu a shot.... Has anyone had any experience with > kubuntu? I put it on one of my boxes recently. It's very easy to set up, and works nicely. The only kink I found after install was that it put a savedefault entry in my grub menu.lst, which rendered my system unbootable. Easy fix: delete the savedefault line, which you can do from the grub menu at boot time if you have to. I like kubuntu. The forums/doc are excellent. One thing I found is that, if you're used to all the extra software bits that come with Red Hat, you'll have to get used to kubuntu not having them. I came from Mandrake, and it didn't take me very long to figure things out and work around the missing bits -- it's mostly a matter of installing the packages that don't get installed by default. My advice: get Synaptic as soon as you're done, it's much better than the KDE version that comes with kubuntu. And you have to get used to the Debian packages (when you go to install other stuff on your own, you'll find that .deb packages aren't nearly as ubiquitous as .rpm ones). Once you get kubuntu working like you want, it's very stable, and very nice. I like it's release cycle better than Mandrake's -- the reason I switched was to get KDE 3.4 without sacrificing stability. Mandrake's latest official release doesn't support it, and the latest club release at the time was painfully buggy on my box -- I actually had to blow the whole thing away, and that's when I switched to kubuntu. Arllen

Sept. 20, 2005

RE: Wlug Digest, Vol 23, Issue 14

by Cretella, Michael A

Bump that, I installed the same bad package on FC4, I ended up formatting anyways, going to give Kubuntu a shot.... Has anyone had any experience with kubuntu? --------------------------- Michael A Cretella Worcester Polytechnic Institute Electrical Computer Engineering '07 cretella(a)wpi.edu (203)610-3618 -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 12:00 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Wlug Digest, Vol 23, Issue 14 Send Wlug mailing list submissions to wlug(a)mail.wlug.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org You can reach the person managing the list at wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Bad x11 package from fedora (Bill Mills-Curran) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:02:27 -0400 From: Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> Subject: [Wlug] Bad x11 package from fedora To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)wlug.org> Message-ID: <20050920120227.GA12690(a)bday.mills.curran> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I installed a bad package from fedora over the weekend. xorg-x11.i386 6.8.2-1.FC3.45 There are a total of 13 packages that are associated with the upgrade. This also affects FC4. There is a beta fix that I hope to test tonight. DO NOT INSTALL THESE PACKAGES. If you have already installed the bad packages and are experiencing console lock-up, you can fight your way back by booting to single user mode, setting inittab to runlevel 3. At least your system will work at that level. Next, if you have another machine, you can get the old packages from fedora and downgrade (with the "--oldpackage" option). You can read about this at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=168750 Bill ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug End of Wlug Digest, Vol 23, Issue 14 ************************************

Sept. 20, 2005

Bad x11 package from fedora

by Bill Mills-Curran

I installed a bad package from fedora over the weekend. xorg-x11.i386 6.8.2-1.FC3.45 There are a total of 13 packages that are associated with the upgrade. This also affects FC4. There is a beta fix that I hope to test tonight. DO NOT INSTALL THESE PACKAGES. If you have already installed the bad packages and are experiencing console lock-up, you can fight your way back by booting to single user mode, setting inittab to runlevel 3. At least your system will work at that level. Next, if you have another machine, you can get the old packages from fedora and downgrade (with the "--oldpackage" option). You can read about this at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=168750 Bill

Sept. 20, 2005

Re: [Wlug] USB Flash Drive on RH 9

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dick Goodman wrote: > I'm not really fluent in device stuff, but I just configured a RH9 > machine for a project, and was trying to offload some config files to a > flash drive. HI Dick, I've been here recently. :-) First, I would check to see that your device is supported. Many devices don't work with Linux. You'll need the vendor/product info, which from your log is 0xd7d/0x1600. I never buy anything for USB without checking here first. http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ I took the liberty of checking for you and you may be SOL. The person who made the entry on this site couldn't get the device working either. You might try asking on the Linux USB developers' mailing list - I found them to be very helpful: linux-usb-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDLbNMHl0iXDssISsRApfmAJ4s00+IjzIt1pUI3+gCEEileCy2pQCfc3ei GycWMn3y5tHFZkykMIqtJDA= =pGUi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Sept. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] failed graphics

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:03:24AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 10:40:28PM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > Thank god for mutt... My motherboard integrated graphics died this > > evening. It still works in console mode (have to boot to init 3), but > > when I try to start graphics, or go to init 5 -- caput. What I see is > > a most of the firmware boot (e machine logo) with fritzed colors in a > > band across the top -- about 15% of the screen. > > > > I was wondering if I could just add a new card and have that work. To > > do that, I suppose I'd have to find a way to disable the motherboard > > graphics card > > > > Any ideas? If this seems like a good idea, can you recommend a > > reasonable graphics card? I'm not a gamer. The most > > graphics-intensive thing I do is watch a movie. > > > > TIA, > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > Oops. Maybe not hardware... I forgot that I ran up2date yesterday > morning and installed the newest xorg-x11 packages. I also installed > wine (just deinstalled it). I hadn't rebooted after installing the X > packages until the reboot that showed the problems. Hmm... > > Any ideas? > > Is there an "easy" way to revert to the previous version of the X > packages? > > Thanks, > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Well, I downgraded to the earlier xorg-x11 packages and the problem went away. I filed a bug with redhat: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=168631 I did not file one with xorg because this looks like the X software did not change -- it looks like a change by the fedora team caused the problem for me. Bill

Sept. 18, 2005

USB Flash Drive on RH 9

by Dick Goodman

I'm not really fluent in device stuff, but I just configured a RH9 machine for a project, and was trying to offload some config files to a flash drive. After searching, I added to fstab: /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb_flash vfat noauto,user,rw,umask=0 0 0 and did a mkdir /mnt/usb_flash as root here's the log ... only partially recognized ... did a modprobe usb-storage after the "not claimed by any active driver" message...removed and inserted several times... umount obviously not recognized. Sep 18 12:32:45 dvorak kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.3-2, assigned address 2 Sep 18 12:32:45 dvorak kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0xd7d/0x1600) is not claimed by any active driver. Sep 18 12:32:48 dvorak /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usb-storage for USB product d7d/1600/100 Sep 18 12:32:49 dvorak kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... Sep 18 12:32:49 dvorak kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage Sep 18 12:32:49 dvorak kernel: usb-uhci.c: interrupt, status 2, frame# 1284 Sep 18 12:32:49 dvorak kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Sep 18 12:35:30 dvorak kernel: resize_dma_pool: unknown device type -1 Sep 18 12:36:39 dvorak kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.3-2 address 2 Sep 18 12:36:41 dvorak devlabel: devlabel service started/restarted Sep 18 12:36:50 dvorak kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.3-2, assigned address 3 Sep 18 12:36:55 dvorak kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Sep 18 12:36:55 dvorak kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=3 (error=-110) Sep 18 12:36:55 dvorak kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.3-2, assigned address 4 Sep 18 12:37:00 dvorak kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Sep 18 12:37:00 dvorak kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=4 (error=-110) Sep 18 12:41:56 dvorak kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.3-2, assigned address 5 Sep 18 12:42:01 dvorak kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Sep 18 12:42:01 dvorak kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=5 (error=-110) Sep 18 12:42:02 dvorak kernel: hub.c: new USB device 00:07.3-2, assigned address 6 Sep 18 12:42:07 dvorak kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout Sep 18 12:42:07 dvorak kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=6 (error=-110) Any help would be appreciated Dick

Sept. 18, 2005

Re: [Wlug] failed graphics

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 10:40:28PM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Thank god for mutt... My motherboard integrated graphics died this > evening. It still works in console mode (have to boot to init 3), but > when I try to start graphics, or go to init 5 -- caput. What I see is > a most of the firmware boot (e machine logo) with fritzed colors in a > band across the top -- about 15% of the screen. > > I was wondering if I could just add a new card and have that work. To > do that, I suppose I'd have to find a way to disable the motherboard > graphics card > > Any ideas? If this seems like a good idea, can you recommend a > reasonable graphics card? I'm not a gamer. The most > graphics-intensive thing I do is watch a movie. > > TIA, > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Oops. Maybe not hardware... I forgot that I ran up2date yesterday morning and installed the newest xorg-x11 packages. I also installed wine (just deinstalled it). I hadn't rebooted after installing the X packages until the reboot that showed the problems. Hmm... Any ideas? Is there an "easy" way to revert to the previous version of the X packages? Thanks, Bill

Sept. 18, 2005

failed graphics

by Bill Mills-Curran

Thank god for mutt... My motherboard integrated graphics died this evening. It still works in console mode (have to boot to init 3), but when I try to start graphics, or go to init 5 -- caput. What I see is a most of the firmware boot (e machine logo) with fritzed colors in a band across the top -- about 15% of the screen. I was wondering if I could just add a new card and have that work. To do that, I suppose I'd have to find a way to disable the motherboard graphics card Any ideas? If this seems like a good idea, can you recommend a reasonable graphics card? I'm not a gamer. The most graphics-intensive thing I do is watch a movie. TIA, Bill

Sept. 18, 2005

Temp job opening

by Mike Leo

wlug members, I work for a health care company in Wellesely Hills that may soon be looking for a temp linux/windows sys admin. I am not sure if this has been officially announced, so I make no promises, nor do I decide who gets hired, so don't look for favor's, nor be mad if this is false hope. I just wanted to extend the information to the team. However, if you are interested, we might by looking for someone with 3+ years linux support (RH) and a 6+ year windows background. we have 380+ Windows/Novell/linux servers, and the linux piece is growing faster and becoming business critical...thus the need for this person. Being the senior linux person here, I want to dedicate myself to linux, which will leave a gap in the windows support. This new role would be to fill in that windows gap, and support linux with me, bridging the gaps in both areas. This will be only a temp/contract position. Typically the contract is for 3 months, but all other contractors here stay until they find perminant rolls (here or elsewhere). There are also other factors that will be discussed if you make it to the interview process. If interested in submitting a resume, please email me at mleo963(a)yahoo.com and I will put your resume in with our recruiter. Thanks Mike

Sept. 16, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba & symbolic links

by Marc Hughes

lrwxr-xr-x 1 bcurran bcurran 26 Sep 6 15:35 cookbook -> /expspace/ntdist/cookbook/ Here's a stab at an answer... That output shows that your client sees that file as a symlink. So when the client tries to access it, it knows it's a symlink and trys to follow it instead of the server following it for you. I bet you don't have a /expspace/ntdist/cookbook/ directory on your client? Try making one and see if it accesses that on the client. -Marc On 9/13/05, Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > Karl, > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 03:49:08PM -0400, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > > > Are you using Absolute links( ex /usr/share ) or Relative (ex > > ../../usr/share)? > > I'm using absolute links, but I did try relative links. I may not > have tried them in conjuction with other changes, such as the "wide > links" samba option. > > > > > What apears as the link on the client? Does the link apear, or is it > > just a empty dir? > > When I do "ls -l" I get a very UNIX-like display. It shows a symbolic > link just like a local file system would show it, with the "->" > notation. > > Here's an example: > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 bcurran bcurran 26 Sep 6 15:35 cookbook -> /expspace/ntdist/cookbook/ > > Note that the owner is not really bcurran -- that changed just like a > typical samba mount. > > The thing that's interesting is that a windows box follows the link > just fine, so I have to conclude that this is a client-side issue. I > recently upgraded from RH9 to fc3, and that's when I noticed this new > (can't follow a link) behavior. > > BTW, I am able to follow a link on the same directory, so I'm assuming > that this is a "cross device" issue. > > Bill > > > > > > > Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > > > >On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 01:14:04PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > > > > > > >>On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:35:08AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a > > >>>windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a > > >>>symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move a > > directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the > > share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the > > share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that > > a RH 9 client would follow the link. > > >>> > > >>>Any idea what's going on? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>Not sure, but you can try CIFS instead of SMBFS: > > >> > > >>mount -t cifs -o user=<user/workgroup> //server/share /mnt/point > > >> > > >> > > > > > >Chuck, > > > > > >I tried it. It mounted, but the symbolic link behavior was the same. > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Bill > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Wlug mailing list > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --- > > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 > > Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 > > Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 > > Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto jabber.org=karl_hiramoto > > ------ > > - > > This is NOT a repeat. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > US VOIP: 603.966.4448 > > Spain Home from US 011(34) 952.859.417 > > Spain Home from EU 00 (34) 952.859.417 > > Spain Mobil 011 (34) 617.463.826 > > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba & symbolic links

by Bill Mills-Curran

Karl, On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 03:49:08PM -0400, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > Are you using Absolute links( ex /usr/share ) or Relative (ex > ../../usr/share)? I'm using absolute links, but I did try relative links. I may not have tried them in conjuction with other changes, such as the "wide links" samba option. > > What apears as the link on the client? Does the link apear, or is it > just a empty dir? When I do "ls -l" I get a very UNIX-like display. It shows a symbolic link just like a local file system would show it, with the "->" notation. Here's an example: lrwxr-xr-x 1 bcurran bcurran 26 Sep 6 15:35 cookbook -> /expspace/ntdist/cookbook/ Note that the owner is not really bcurran -- that changed just like a typical samba mount. The thing that's interesting is that a windows box follows the link just fine, so I have to conclude that this is a client-side issue. I recently upgraded from RH9 to fc3, and that's when I noticed this new (can't follow a link) behavior. BTW, I am able to follow a link on the same directory, so I'm assuming that this is a "cross device" issue. Bill > > > Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > >On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 01:14:04PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > > > >>On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:35:08AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a > >>>windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a > >>>symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move a > directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the > share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the > share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that > a RH 9 client would follow the link. > >>> > >>>Any idea what's going on? > >>> > >>> > >>Not sure, but you can try CIFS instead of SMBFS: > >> > >>mount -t cifs -o user=<user/workgroup> //server/share /mnt/point > >> > >> > > > >Chuck, > > > >I tried it. It mounted, but the symbolic link behavior was the same. > > > >Thanks, > >Bill > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > -- > > --- > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 > Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 > Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 > Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto jabber.org=karl_hiramoto > ------ > - > This is NOT a repeat. > > > > > > -- > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > US VOIP: 603.966.4448 > Spain Home from US 011(34) 952.859.417 > Spain Home from EU 00 (34) 952.859.417 > Spain Mobil 011 (34) 617.463.826 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba & symbolic links

by Karl Hiramoto

Are you using Absolute links( ex /usr/share ) or Relative (ex ../../usr/share)? What apears as the link on the client? Does the link apear, or is it just a empty dir? Bill Mills-Curran wrote: >On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 01:14:04PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > >>On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:35:08AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: >> >> >>>I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a >>>windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a >>>symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move a directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that a RH 9 client would follow the link. >>> >>>Any idea what's going on? >>> >>> >>Not sure, but you can try CIFS instead of SMBFS: >> >>mount -t cifs -o user=<user/workgroup> //server/share /mnt/point >> >> > >Chuck, > >I tried it. It mounted, but the symbolic link behavior was the same. > >Thanks, >Bill >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- --- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto jabber.org=karl_hiramoto ------ - This is NOT a repeat. -- Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> US VOIP: 603.966.4448 Spain Home from US 011(34) 952.859.417 Spain Home from EU 00 (34) 952.859.417 Spain Mobil 011 (34) 617.463.826 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] LVM snapshot questions.

by John Stoffel

Adam> o Are snapshots persistent across reboots? If not by default, can Adam> they be made to be persistent? >From what I know, LVM snapshots aren't that reliable, but I admit I haven't touched them lately. Adam> o How many snapshots can I have at once? Bunches I think, but... Adam> Last year I took advantage of one of those occasional Tiger Adam> Direct ( shameless plug ;) deals to get myself a 200GB drive for Adam> 50 bucks. I am using the drive to backup my machines. Right Adam> now I backup once a month by copying the user data from my Adam> iBook, my wife's iMac, and my Knoppix laptop to the drive. Each Adam> time it comes to about 15GB total. I am beginning to fill the Adam> drive, so I want to design a more efficient way of using it with Adam> OSS tools. My plan is this: What some people do is use 'rbackup' which will only backup those files which actually change, and hardlink to the un-changed ones. This way each snapshot looks complete, but they're actually fairly compressed. http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ And google for "rbackup rsync snapshot" and you'll get more hits. Adam> o Acquire a cheap used PIII pc. Install the 200GB drive and Centos Adam> (for familiarity's sake, RHEL is one of the distros I use at work) sounds good. I've been looking to setup a main home file/backup/mysql/http server type device with lots of disk. But I want it to be *quiet* so I can just leave it on all the time and not worry about noise bothering people. Unlike my current do everything box which is loud. One of the Via EPIC boards looks nice, if it could hold enough disks to make a good RAID5 setup with hotspare. John

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba & symbolic links

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 01:14:04PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:35:08AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a > > windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a > > symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move > > a directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the > > share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the > > share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that > > a RH 9 client would follow the link. > > > > Any idea what's going on? > > Not sure, but you can try CIFS instead of SMBFS: > > mount -t cifs -o user=<user/workgroup> //server/share /mnt/point Chuck, I tried it. It mounted, but the symbolic link behavior was the same. Thanks, Bill

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] samba & symbolic links

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:35:08AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a > windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a > symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move > a directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the > share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the > share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that > a RH 9 client would follow the link. > > Any idea what's going on? Not sure, but you can try CIFS instead of SMBFS: mount -t cifs -o user=<user/workgroup> //server/share /mnt/point

Sept. 13, 2005

samba & symbolic links

by Bill Mills-Curran

I have a linux server that's exporting a samba share at a windows-dominant site. In a directory of the share, there's a symbolic link to a different (non-shared) partition. (We had to move a directory due to space limitations.) Windows clients can mount the share and follow the symbolic link. My fedora-3 client can mount the share (smbmount), but cannot follow the link. I seem to remember that a RH 9 client would follow the link. Any idea what's going on? Thanks, Bill

Sept. 13, 2005

Re: [Wlug] workspace selection by app?

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 12:49:03PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 09:41:31AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > Is there a way to have an application start in all gnome workspaces? > > For my particular need, I am using xmessage to inform me of specific > > events on my machine. To make it harder to lose track of the xmessage > > (pop-up) window, I'd like it to display in all my workspaces. I > > figure there's some magic setting in gconf (or, even better, an X > > display setting), but I can't find any documentation on it. > > Your window manager controls this. For Metacity at least, you can set > the window to appear "On All Workspaces" and this setting should be > rememberd across session restarts. Chuck, I guess that's a way to try to find the settings in gconf. Make the change as you suggest, log out (using the "save current settings" option), then see what shows up in gconf. Thanks, Bill

Sept. 11, 2005

Re: [Wlug] workspace selection by app?

by Chuck Anderson

On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 09:41:31AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Is there a way to have an application start in all gnome workspaces? > For my particular need, I am using xmessage to inform me of specific > events on my machine. To make it harder to lose track of the xmessage > (pop-up) window, I'd like it to display in all my workspaces. I > figure there's some magic setting in gconf (or, even better, an X > display setting), but I can't find any documentation on it. Your window manager controls this. For Metacity at least, you can set the window to appear "On All Workspaces" and this setting should be rememberd across session restarts.

Sept. 11, 2005

Re: [Wlug] books for sale

by Jared Greenwald

I'll take the Samba book... On 9/11/05, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Does anyone have an interest in these books? > > $5 a piece and I can bring them to the next meeting. > > All proceeds to go directly to the wlug general fund. > > Let me know.... > mike > > > www.leotree.com/books > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 11, 2005

books for sale

by Mike Leo

Does anyone have an interest in these books? $5 a piece and I can bring them to the next meeting. All proceeds to go directly to the wlug general fund. Let me know.... mike www.leotree.com/books

Sept. 11, 2005

workspace selection by app?

by Bill Mills-Curran

Is there a way to have an application start in all gnome workspaces? For my particular need, I am using xmessage to inform me of specific events on my machine. To make it harder to lose track of the xmessage (pop-up) window, I'd like it to display in all my workspaces. I figure there's some magic setting in gconf (or, even better, an X display setting), but I can't find any documentation on it. Any ideas? Thanks, Bill

Sept. 10, 2005