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WLUG july/aug

by Doug Mildram

doug> Chuck is on vacation...hope the website didn't mislead; it said "TBD" for upcoming meetings. ** So I think we're "on break" for July, and still hoping for a new August BBQ volunteer host. Or, I might. From: John Platt <jplatt39(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Wlug] July meeting? Hi! I was on campus this evening but didn't see Chuck or any signs. Did I miss something?

July 12, 2012

July meeting?

by John Platt

Hi! I was on campus this evening but didn't see Chuck or any signs. Did I miss something?

July 12, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by E Johnson

Thanks Chuck. I had seen the Lenovo fixes, but that didn't seem to fit this situation. At least now, in these explanations, I can see why it's often suggested to remap the CapsLock as an extra CTRL key. Others suggest physically rewiring the thing; switching the wires. That isn't possible in this one. This is a $30 plastic keyboard that should have cost 9 bucks max. I'll rewire the nice but sick one, whenever the soldering iron is dropped off here. Thanks again everyone. Liz On 4 July 2012 02:49, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > See here for the gory details. As you can see, there is pretty much > no easy way to turn Fn into a generic key, especially not a Ctrl key. > There may be a hard way that involves loading a custom ACPI DSDT and > creating custom actions for every combination of Fn and every other > key--if there are even enough non-overlapping codes to do it. Also > bare in mind that these are IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad specific docs: > > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work > > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_hotswap_Ultrabay_devices > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 10:29:27PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > How did you create the custom action?? > > (need the commnds) > > Thanks > > Liz > > > > On 3 July 2012 22:22, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > > > > More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system > > > management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but > > > probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. > > > I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down > > > the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > > > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > > > > > > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS > will do > > > > it. > > > > > > > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > > > > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this > keyboard is > > > > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > > > > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > > > > > > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN > key. > > > > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least > not > > > using > > > > > > this method. > > > > > > > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get > a > > > > > chance to > > > > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the > keyboard > > > > > itself > > > > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down > > > arrow" > > > > > and > > > > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > > > > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 4, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by Chuck Anderson

See here for the gory details. As you can see, there is pretty much no easy way to turn Fn into a generic key, especially not a Ctrl key. There may be a hard way that involves loading a custom ACPI DSDT and creating custom actions for every combination of Fn and every other key--if there are even enough non-overlapping codes to do it. Also bare in mind that these are IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad specific docs: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_get_special_keys_to_work http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_hotswap_Ultrabay_devices On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 10:29:27PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > How did you create the custom action?? > (need the commnds) > Thanks > Liz > > On 3 July 2012 22:22, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > > More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system > > management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but > > probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. > > I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down > > the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. > > > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > > > > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS will do > > > it. > > > > > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > > > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this keyboard is > > > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > > > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > > > > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > > > > > Liz > > > > > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > > > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not > > using > > > > > this method. > > > > > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a > > > > chance to > > > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard > > > > itself > > > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down > > arrow" > > > > and > > > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > > > -mike

July 4, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by E Johnson

How did you create the custom action?? (need the commnds) Thanks Liz On 3 July 2012 22:22, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system > management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but > probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. > I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down > the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS will do > > it. > > > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this keyboard is > > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > > > Liz > > > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not > using > > > > this method. > > > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a > > > chance to > > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard > > > itself > > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down > arrow" > > > and > > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > > -mike > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > - Chuck (0 Days until IPv4 depletion: http://ipv4depletion.com/) > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 4, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by Chuck Anderson

More specifically, it is handled by the ACPI BIOS in SMM (system management mode). You might be able to hook it via acpid, but probably not in a suitably complete way to emulate Ctrl for all uses. I was able to create a custom action Fn+F9 on my laptop to power down the optical/hard drive bay so I could eject it. On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:52:21PM -0400, E Johnson wrote: > Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. > > I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS will do > it. > > But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion > times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this keyboard is > too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & > arthriitic effects would be reduced. > > Thank you very much, Mike. > > Liz > > On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not using > > > this method. > > > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a > > chance to > > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard > > itself > > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down arrow" > > and > > translate it to "page down" in software. > > -mike > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- - Chuck (0 Days until IPv4 depletion: http://ipv4depletion.com/)

July 4, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by E Johnson

Oh. Well, that explains why I can't get the keymap code, thank you. I guess that explains why it's a fix in the BIOS too, if the BIOS will do it. But I need the keymap code. Need to do CTRL-C and CTRL-V a zillion times/day, but the distance between CTRL and C and V in this keyboard is too short. If CTRL was an inch to the left, life would be normal & arthriitic effects would be reduced. Thank you very much, Mike. Liz On 3 July 2012 18:32, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not using > > this method. > > many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a > chance to > see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard > itself > that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down arrow" > and > translate it to "page down" in software. > -mike >

July 3, 2012

Re: [Wlug] Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by Mike Frysinger

On Tuesday 03 July 2012 17:10:12 E Johnson wrote: > I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. > Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not using > this method. many (most?) keyboards process FN in hardware. the OS doesn't get a chance to see it. so if you do FN+down arrow to get page down, it's the keyboard itself that is sending the "page down" key. the OS doesn't see "FN+down arrow" and translate it to "page down" in software. -mike

July 3, 2012

Need keysym code of the FN key -- how?

by E Johnson

Hi guys, I finally got a new keyboard after muddling along with my supernice one that was rapidly dying. Many errors, repeating keys, skips; cable had to be exactly the right angle; lights went out, etc. It needs rewiring. A soldering iron is on its way, whenever the lender can drop it off here, which clearly will not be today. Meanwhile the new one is almost okay, even if it is plastic. This is a Perixx PERIBOARD-502 PLUS, Wired USB Keyboard with Touchpad. BUT -- it has one serious fault. On this keyboard, the outboard key on the lower left side is FN but it needs to be CTRL. The CTRL key is in the wrong place. I use this key hundreds of times/day. So I need to remap this key to be the CTRL key. I can run xev to get the keymap codes, for all keys but this FN key. Apparently the FN key won't give any output by itself, at least not using this method. Without the code, I can't xmodmap this key. I need output like this: KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x4600001, root 0x111, subw 0x0, time 1003909681, (508,-351), root:(512,327), state 0x4, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False -- where the part in parentheses after keysym contains the code I need. The manufacturer said they would check with their R&D, but it might take several days. Some solutions to issues like these say this can be done in the BIOS, but there's no guarantee, and I don't want to mess with the BIOS anyway. Is there another way I can find the keymap code for this key? Some keep-it-simple method that won't fry my overheated brain? Thanks very much, Liz J

July 3, 2012

Re: [Wlug] RFC: WLUG BBQ July/August timeframe

by Eric Martin

I'm in, although I can't host since we have our hands pretty full with a newborn. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > We usually have a WLUG summer BBQ around July or August, so I'd like > to get the planning discussion going now. Are people interested in > having a BBQ this year, and if so, would someone be willing to host > it? WLUG should enough in the bank to fund the food, so all we need > is a place with a BBQ grill and a time. > > Comments? Ideas? > > Chuck > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Eric Martin

June 23, 2012

RFC: WLUG BBQ July/August timeframe

by Chuck Anderson

We usually have a WLUG summer BBQ around July or August, so I'd like to get the planning discussion going now. Are people interested in having a BBQ this year, and if so, would someone be willing to host it? WLUG should enough in the bank to fund the food, so all we need is a place with a BBQ grill and a time. Comments? Ideas? Chuck

June 20, 2012

Re: [Wlug] OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++

by John Spencer

I hope I did not insult anyone by asking for a Word resume for a "Linux" position, certainly not my intention. I get a lot of PDF's and my DB does not accept PDFs. At least I know you were reading my posting :) As I stated in my email, I will never send your resume anywhere without talking to you first. Please feel free to pass this opening along to your network Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

June 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++

by Gary Hanley

It would be surprising of they asked for anything else. Even if it is a "Linux" job, the corporate/business world is dominated by MS products. On 06/18/2012 03:35 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote: > Not that surprising. It's not uncommon for companies to outsource the > mechanics of hiring process (publishing listings, storing resumes, meeting > resume retention laws, etc), and even if it's only being read by in-house > people, the HR staff who get first crack at it are non-technical people likely > to be on Windows or Mac anyway. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > > On 06/18/2012 03:12 PM, Clint Moyer wrote: >> Please send a Word version of your resume... For a "Linux" job. >> >> >> On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:52 PM, John Spencer<jspencer(a)connectedsp.com >> <mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com>> wrote: >> >>> We are seeking a Mid to Sr level Software Engineer to be responsible for >>> software design and development solutions. This is a perm position north of >>> Boston. >>> >>> Responsible for Software Development Life Cycle including design, >>> development, integration and test >>> " Demonstrable ability to communicate complex concepts verbally and in writing >>> " Responsible for major portions of software projects. >>> " Write system design and specifications >>> " Development in accordance with design requirements >>> " Perform software verification procedures and document results >>> " Generate software release >>> >>> Skills& Experience >>> " BSCS or related technical degree >>> " 4+ years of strong C++ and Linux >>> " Strong Object Oriented Design experience >>> " Background with multi-threading and Boost libraries >>> " Experience with software design patterns >>> " Ability to work with vendors, customers and other engineering groups >>> " Experience with medical devices or experience in a regulated industry >>> " Strong written and verbal communication skills >>> >>> Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. >>> Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> John Spencer >>> >>> >>> >>> Connected Systems Partners >>> >>> /Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies/ >>> >>> >>> >>> 978-455-5550 x208 >>> >>> 978-621-9743 cell >>> >>> jspencer(a)connectedsp.com<mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> >>> >>> * * >>> >>> *GET CONNECTED!* >>> >>> >>> >>> /Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this >>> email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the >>> recipient(s) only./ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org<mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

June 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++

by Frank Sweetser

Not that surprising. It's not uncommon for companies to outsource the mechanics of hiring process (publishing listings, storing resumes, meeting resume retention laws, etc), and even if it's only being read by in-house people, the HR staff who get first crack at it are non-technical people likely to be on Windows or Mac anyway. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 06/18/2012 03:12 PM, Clint Moyer wrote: > Please send a Word version of your resume... For a "Linux" job. > > > On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:52 PM, John Spencer <jspencer(a)connectedsp.com > <mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com>> wrote: > >> We are seeking a Mid to Sr level Software Engineer to be responsible for >> software design and development solutions. This is a perm position north of >> Boston. >> >> Responsible for Software Development Life Cycle including design, >> development, integration and test >> " Demonstrable ability to communicate complex concepts verbally and in writing >> " Responsible for major portions of software projects. >> " Write system design and specifications >> " Development in accordance with design requirements >> " Perform software verification procedures and document results >> " Generate software release >> >> Skills & Experience >> " BSCS or related technical degree >> " 4+ years of strong C++ and Linux >> " Strong Object Oriented Design experience >> " Background with multi-threading and Boost libraries >> " Experience with software design patterns >> " Ability to work with vendors, customers and other engineering groups >> " Experience with medical devices or experience in a regulated industry >> " Strong written and verbal communication skills >> >> Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. >> Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Spencer >> >> >> >> Connected Systems Partners >> >> /Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies/ >> >> >> >> 978-455-5550 x208 >> >> 978-621-9743 cell >> >> jspencer(a)connectedsp.com <mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com> >> >> >> >> www.connectedsp.com <www.connectedsp.com%20> >> >> * * >> >> *GET CONNECTED!* >> >> >> >> /Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this >> email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the >> recipient(s) only./ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 18, 2012

Re: [Wlug] OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++

by Clint Moyer

Please send a Word version of your resume... For a "Linux" job. On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:52 PM, John Spencer <jspencer(a)connectedsp.com> wrote: > We are seeking a Mid to Sr level Software Engineer to be responsible for software design and development solutions. This is a perm position north of Boston. > > Responsible for Software Development Life Cycle including design, development, integration and test > " Demonstrable ability to communicate complex concepts verbally and in writing > " Responsible for major portions of software projects. > " Write system design and specifications > " Development in accordance with design requirements > " Perform software verification procedures and document results > " Generate software release > > Skills & Experience > " BSCS or related technical degree > " 4+ years of strong C++ and Linux > " Strong Object Oriented Design experience > " Background with multi-threading and Boost libraries > " Experience with software design patterns > " Ability to work with vendors, customers and other engineering groups > " Experience with medical devices or experience in a regulated industry > " Strong written and verbal communication skills > > Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. > Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. > > > Regards, > John Spencer > > Connected Systems Partners > Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies > > 978-455-5550 x208 > 978-621-9743 cell > jspencer(a)connectedsp.com > > www.connectedsp.com > > GET CONNECTED! > > Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 18, 2012

OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++

by John Spencer

We are seeking a Mid to Sr level Software Engineer to be responsible for software design and development solutions. This is a perm position north of Boston. Responsible for Software Development Life Cycle including design, development, integration and test " Demonstrable ability to communicate complex concepts verbally and in writing " Responsible for major portions of software projects. " Write system design and specifications " Development in accordance with design requirements " Perform software verification procedures and document results " Generate software release Skills & Experience " BSCS or related technical degree " 4+ years of strong C++ and Linux " Strong Object Oriented Design experience " Background with multi-threading and Boost libraries " Experience with software design patterns " Ability to work with vendors, customers and other engineering groups " Experience with medical devices or experience in a regulated industry " Strong written and verbal communication skills Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. Regards, John Spencer Connected Systems Partners Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies 978-455-5550 x208 978-621-9743 cell jspencer(a)connectedsp.com www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> GET CONNECTED! Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the recipient(s) only.

June 18, 2012

looking to join the local linux community

by Wolf Bronski

Hello, My name is Rich. I've been using Ubuntu and CentOS for a while now. I'm into servers and I'm interested in documentation. I'd very much like to come to the next meeting as I live very close to WPI. I've written a guide about running a Redmine server on CentOS 6.2. It's not complete because i want to add other repositories like Git and SVN besides Mercurial (hg). You can download it at http://107.22.171.253/hg/test/file/fb531026ab76 I've written it in DocBook but there is also a PDF in the repo. Please email me if you wish. Have a great day.

June 18, 2012

Reminder: WLUG Meeting Wed 6/13 7PM: Secure Virtual Containers/Multi-Tenancy

by Chuck Anderson

Reminder about tonight's WLUG meeting. On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 04:16:13PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Hi folks, > > The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be > held next Wednesday, June 13, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI > Campus Center, Chairman's Room (room 129). > > Wednesday, June 13, 7:00 - 9:00 PM > WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room (room 129) > > Dan Walsh of Red Hat will be giving a presentation on Secure Virtual > Containers/Multi-Tenancy: > > "During the Last few years as computers have become more powerful, > there has been a move towards server computing. Most people call this > "Cloud" computing. One key feature of this is moving servers out of > the data center and onto virtual machines. My presentation will > describe this as Multitenancy.. > > This talk will cover technologies from RHEL5, RHEL6 and RHEL7. > SELinux, Virtualization, Sandbox and Secure Container Applications." > > Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. > > See you there, > Chuck > President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

June 13, 2012

Announce: WLUG Meeting Wed 6/13 7PM: Secure Virtual Containers/Multi-Tenancy

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, The next Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting will be held next Wednesday, June 13, at 7PM. The location will be the WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room (room 129). Wednesday, June 13, 7:00 - 9:00 PM WPI Campus Center, Chairman's Room (room 129) Dan Walsh of Red Hat will be giving a presentation on Secure Virtual Containers/Multi-Tenancy: "During the Last few years as computers have become more powerful, there has been a move towards server computing. Most people call this "Cloud" computing. One key feature of this is moving servers out of the data center and onto virtual machines. My presentation will describe this as Multitenancy.. This talk will cover technologies from RHEL5, RHEL6 and RHEL7. SELinux, Virtualization, Sandbox and Secure Container Applications." Afterwards, we will go out for pizza and continue our discussions. See you there, Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

June 6, 2012

Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by E Johnson

Thanks for answering on this nice weekend. The keyboard was getting a little cruddy; I took the faceplate off I cleaned it, sprayed it with air from various angles until no more debris flew out. Messages in /var/log/messages so far shows it being unplugged twice (the keyboard itself + its USB hub). Shows it being plugged in, identified (twice), configuration chosen, etc. Two-hundreths of a second later, it disconnected and repeated the same sequence again. Then it seemed to settle down. This is an Aurora keyboard made by Enermax, the model without the number pad, no longer being manufactured. http://www.enermax.com.tw/files/ProductFile_eng/PF_File/65.pdf Size and shape and feel of a laptop keyboard. It's not plastic, it's very quiet, and it fits in my lap. It's definitely the wire. I can reproduce the problem, or cure it, by moving the wire. I run my keyboard in my lap; have run all keyboards this way for years. It's starting to look like every time I set the keyboard aside & get up, the wire wiggles just enough to seem to unplug, then plug in again. The weird thing is, the wire, although it moves when I move, seems fairly secure. It has a nice rubber boot thing that seems to hold it place as it runs through the hole in the case. Inside, the little circuit board that the wire runs into looks okay, connections look okay, capacitors look happy, etc. But the circuit board itself seems to be able to move a little bit. Maybe something is grounding out every once in a while. The back of the keyboard feels a little warm just where that circuit board is. Guess I'll take it apart again later & see if stabilizing or insulating the circuit board is possible, and if so, if it helps. Liz On 27 May 2012 08:39, <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: > Glad you resolved your issue. If all the devices are USB compliant, > there should be no issue but I was under the incorrect impression that the > computer had some years on it and was working correctly earlier. Linux > generally does not magically deconfigure itself which left hardware > issues. > > > At risk of sounding way too obvious: > > If moderate wiggling the harness near the keyboard causes problems and > the keyboard is something special, I would consider re-doing the connection > between the keyboard and the USB wire (will need soldering and disassembly > of the keyboard). There is very likely a wire to the keyboard broken at a > mechanical stress point near the keyboard . This will shorten the wire to > the keyboard several inches. Although there is information about a maximum > legnth, I do not recall anything in the USB specification that specifically > states that the harness has to be a specific legnth (no shorter and no > longer than). This is a somewhat risky procedure, so I would proceed only > where confident. It is also possible the problem is as simple a connector > pulling out of a circuit board, but I doubt that that is the case. > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 01:59 PM, E Johnson wrote: > > Oh, interesting. Never thought of that. I had plugged in: > > One USB headset > one USB keyboard > one USB mouse, connected via USB extension cable > one USB connector for the scanner (which was not connected to the scanner, > just laying there) > > I think that's about it. The keyboard has 2 USB ports which I never use. > (had problem even before this keyboard existed) > > I think the keyboard shows up twice in lsusb because it has 2 USB ports. > > Have been running on the new computer 4 hours now, moving stuff to the new > hard drive, & the problem migrated here --it's 99% probably the keyboard. > If I wiggle the wire where it enters the keyboard, the keyboard stops or > starts working. The error messages, which appeared on several different > sets of hardware & peripherals, 3 diifferent operating systems, also are > appearing in this new computer. I guess the rror messages are a separate > issue --a red herring. > > Too bad; I really, really like this keyboard, but they don't make this > model any more. > > I guess it's Solved, or sorted out, anyway. 1) Need keyboard; 2) deal with > error messages another time. > > Thanks very much! > > Liz J > > On 26 May 2012 11:29, <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: > > > I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am > currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to > attach to the bus. > > From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting > much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices > plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered > USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the > USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would > try only if I had a USB hub laying around. > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: > > We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. > > If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of > the time, but not always. > > If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a > different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. > > The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the > connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB > connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged > in back there. > > This is output of lsusb: > > Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > > The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no > clue. > > Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this > disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a > specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's > becoming more frequent now. > > I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching > with the right terms). > > I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of > which is pasted here below. > > I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different > computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running > an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a > different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. > > This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I > just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot > of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. > > Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. > I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. > Very frustratiing problem. > > Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks very much, > Liz J > > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 27 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 28 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2619 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2620 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 29 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 30 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2621 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2622 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > > > > > > > *_______________________________________________* > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > *_______________________________________________* > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 27, 2012

Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by kstratton＠fastmail.us

Glad you resolved your issue. If all the devices are USB compliant, there should be no issue but I was under the incorrect impression that the computer had some years on it and was working correctly earlier. Linux generally does not magically deconfigure itself which left hardware issues. At risk of sounding way too obvious: If moderate wiggling the harness near the keyboard causes problems and the keyboard is something special, I would consider re-doing the connection between the keyboard and the USB wire (will need soldering and disassembly of the keyboard). There is very likely a wire to the keyboard broken at a mechanical stress point near the keyboard . This will shorten the wire to the keyboard several inches. Although there is information about a maximum legnth, I do not recall anything in the USB specification that specifically states that the harness has to be a specific legnth (no shorter and no longer than). This is a somewhat risky procedure, so I would proceed only where confident. It is also possible the problem is as simple a connector pulling out of a circuit board, but I doubt that that is the case. On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 01:59 PM, E Johnson wrote: Oh, interesting. Never thought of that. I had plugged in: One USB headset one USB keyboard one USB mouse, connected via USB extension cable one USB connector for the scanner (which was not connected to the scanner, just laying there) I think that's about it. The keyboard has 2 USB ports which I never use. (had problem even before this keyboard existed) I think the keyboard shows up twice in lsusb because it has 2 USB ports. Have been running on the new computer 4 hours now, moving stuff to the new hard drive, & the problem migrated here --it's 99% probably the keyboard. If I wiggle the wire where it enters the keyboard, the keyboard stops or starts working. The error messages, which appeared on several different sets of hardware & peripherals, 3 diifferent operating systems, also are appearing in this new computer. I guess the rror messages are a separate issue --a red herring. Too bad; I really, really like this keyboard, but they don't make this model any more. I guess it's Solved, or sorted out, anyway. 1) Need keyboard; 2) deal with error messages another time. Thanks very much! Liz J On 26 May 2012 11:29, <[1]kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to attach to the bus. >From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would try only if I had a USB hub laying around. On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of the time, but not always. If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged in back there. This is output of lsusb: Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no clue. Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's becoming more frequent now. I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching with the right terms). I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of which is pasted here below. I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. Very frustratiing problem. Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, Liz J May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 27 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 28 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2619 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2620 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 29 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 30 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2621 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2622 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [2]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [3]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- [4]kstratton(a)fastmail.us _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [5]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [6]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [7]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [8]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug References 1. mailto:kstratton@fastmail.us 2. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 3. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug 4. mailto:kstratton@fastmail.us 5. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 6. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug 7. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 8. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

May 27, 2012

Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by E Johnson

Oh, interesting. Never thought of that. I had plugged in: One USB headset one USB keyboard one USB mouse, connected via USB extension cable one USB connector for the scanner (which was not connected to the scanner, just laying there) I think that's about it. The keyboard has 2 USB ports which I never use. (had problem even before this keyboard existed) I think the keyboard shows up twice in lsusb because it has 2 USB ports. Have been running on the new computer 4 hours now, moving stuff to the new hard drive, & the problem migrated here --it's 99% probably the keyboard. If I wiggle the wire where it enters the keyboard, the keyboard stops or starts working. The error messages, which appeared on several different sets of hardware & peripherals, 3 diifferent operating systems, also are appearing in this new computer. I guess the rror messages are a separate issue --a red herring. Too bad; I really, really like this keyboard, but they don't make this model any more. I guess it's Solved, or sorted out, anyway. 1) Need keyboard; 2) deal with error messages another time. Thanks very much! Liz J On 26 May 2012 11:29, <kstratton(a)fastmail.us> wrote: > > I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am > currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to > attach to the bus. > > From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting > much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices > plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered > USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the > USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would > try only if I had a USB hub laying around. > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: > > We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. > > If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of > the time, but not always. > > If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a > different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. > > The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the > connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB > connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged > in back there. > > This is output of lsusb: > > Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. > Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > > The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no > clue. > > Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this > disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a > specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's > becoming more frequent now. > > I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching > with the right terms). > > I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of > which is pasted here below. > > I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different > computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running > an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a > different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. > > This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I > just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot > of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. > > Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. > I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. > Very frustratiing problem. > > Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks very much, > Liz J > > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 27 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 28 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2619 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2620 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, > address 29 > May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB > disconnect, address 30 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub > found > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports > detected > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB > 2.0 HUB > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: > GENESYS > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed > USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration > #1 chosen from 1 choice > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2621 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID > v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as > /class/input/input2622 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: > USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 > May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB > device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 > > > > > > > *_______________________________________________* > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > -- > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by kstratton＠fastmail.us

I am not an expert on USB or linux for that matter, although I am currently trying to grop the USB spec so that I can develop a USB devce to attach to the bus. >From what I am looking at, it looks liks you are loosing and reconnecting much more than just you keyboard. Do you have many USB powered devices plugged in the motherboard? Is it possible to move them on to a powered USB hub? Doing this would reduce the load on the 5V supplied by the USB connectors. This is really a shot in the dark and is somthing I would try only if I had a USB hub laying around. On Sat, May 26, 2012, at 10:32 AM, E Johnson wrote: We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of the time, but not always. If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged in back there. This is output of lsusb: Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no clue. Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's becoming more frequent now. I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching with the right terms). I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of which is pasted here below. I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. Very frustratiing problem. Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, Liz J May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 27 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 28 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2619 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2620 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 29 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 30 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2621 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2622 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list [1]Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org [2]http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug References 1. mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org 2. http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- kstratton(a)fastmail.us

May 26, 2012

USB disconnect; problem with keyboard being disconnected

by E Johnson

We have a problem here with keyboard being disconnected many times/day. If I unplug the USB connector, then plug it in again, this works some of the time, but not always. If re-plugging it in does not work, then if I plug in the keyboard at a different port, it sometimes starts working again, but not always. The front USB ports seem a little stretched out; sometimes wiggling the connector temporarily fixes the problem, but not always. The back USB connectors seem nice & snug, but the problem does also happen when plugged in back there. This is output of lsusb: Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 007: ID 046d:c062 Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 003: ID 047f:c002 Plantronics, Inc. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 085: ID 0566:3013 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 084: ID 0566:3020 Monterey International Corp. Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub The keyboard is the Monterey thing, why it's in there two times I have no clue. Sometimes the keyboard works normally for many days, then this disconnecting problem crops again, seemingly random. I can't identify a specific reason why this starts happening, or stops happening. But it's becoming more frequent now. I am not finding a solution in the forums (or maybe I am not searching with the right terms). I am getting zillions of repetitive error messages, a small sample of which is pasted here below. I had these same kind of messages since several years ago, on a different computer (different processor, mobo, case, mouse, keyboard & all) running an earlier version of my OS (Debian). I get similar messages here in a different computer, different keyboard & mouse, running Debian Squeeze. This computer is running Debian Lenny. It is soon to be retired since I just built a brand-new one, but can't retire it until I migrate a whole lot of files to the new one & do some tweaking & installing various apps. Hope someone here has run across this issue & has found a way to solve it. I can't crawl under the table umpteen times/day to plug in a USB cable. Very frustratiing problem. Sample of error messages is below here. Ideas, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much, Liz J May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 27 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.417306] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 28 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.749302] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110102.901315] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:42 leonardo kernel: [3110103.009359] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.225358] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 30 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.337358] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.345360] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2619 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.385357] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.393363] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2620 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:43 leonardo kernel: [3110103.437358] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 29 May 26 09:18:47 leonardo kernel: [3110107.977546] usb 6-2.3: USB disconnect, address 30 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.269231] usb 6-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 31 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.417539] usb 6-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: USB hub found May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.421222] hub 6-2:1.0: 3 ports detected May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3020 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, SerialNumber=0 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Product: USB 2.0 HUB May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.529223] usb 6-2: Manufacturer: GENESYS May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.749082] usb 6-2.3: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 32 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.845832] usb 6-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.852599] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2621 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.904715] input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.913547] input: HID 0566:3013 as /class/input/input2622 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [HID 0566:3013] on usb-0000:00:13.2-2.3 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0566, idProduct=3013 May 26 09:18:48 leonardo kernel: [3110108.929554] usb 6-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0

May 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting: Wed May 9, Morgan Hall

by Keith Wright

> From: Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > > This month, the Worcester Linux Users' Group (WLUG) monthly meeting is > back to our usual Wednesday and our old location: Woops. I was just getting my things together to go over there when I decided to double check the place. I haven't forgotten you, I've forgotten myself. See you next month, I guess. -- Keith

May 10, 2012