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Re: [Wlug] Mail problem for a Monday morning

by Klein, Richard

> -----Original Message----- > From: Brett Russ > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 1:37 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Mail problem for a Monday morning > > Oh, in that case, simply explain to her that you couldn't > reply to her because your IMAP MUA wasn't properly setup to > tunnel SMTP traffic via SSH and all your attempts were just > ending up in /dev/null! Hiding information is not a healthy > start to a new relationship you know... > > ;-) Excellent advice! She'll see that I need someone to look after me and she'll take pity on me. :) > -----Original Message----- > From: John Stoffel > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:27 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Mail problem for a Monday morning > > Umm... if you can get into your home mail server via SSH, why > can't you send email from there using plain old 'mail' command? > > Or do you have something similar to what I have, which is my > own domain, which gets my email and then dumps it into my > ISP's email system for pulling down? The problem with setting up a reliable server that you never have to mess with is you forget how you set it up. :) I set up a virtual mail domain, and the mail users of that domain don't have shell accounts, so I can't log in as one of those users at the SSH (shell) prompt. I thought that would be more secure, because I might want to give email accounts to friends who would have no need for a shell account. > In that case, using my ISP's outgoing email servers was > problematic, because they didn't like me using my > @stoffel.org domain email address on outgoing email. Or at > least they didn't like it much, and people further downstream > started dropping/bouncing my emails thinking I was a spammer. Yeah, I thought about forging the from: header for certain emails, but I figured my employer's ISP would block that (it *should* block that, anyway). Plus, knowing me, I'd forget to change it back after I sent the email, and then I'd be sending out business emails with my personal email in the from: header. I don't think my company would appreciate that. > So now I have postfix at home setup to use SMTPS to send all > outgoing email via my domain's ISP's mail server, encrypted > and all is good again. > > > But basically, can you explain your setup in more detail > please? It's not clear where the bottleneck really is. I'm running Courier-IMAP and...I forget what else...at home. I added an account to Outlook at work to check my mail. It can receive mail fine, but sent messages just sit in the "outbox" forever. I tried telnetting into my server: port 143 gets me the IMAP prompts like you'd expect, but port 25 gets nothing, so I figure my employer is blocking port 25. That's not surprising. My mailserver runs richardklein.org as a virtual domain, and users @richardklein.org don't have shell accounts. If I SSH into my shell account it reports no mail because all my mail gets sent to the @richardklein.org user(s). > Richard> What are my options? Can I use putty to tunnel SMTP through > Richard> port 22 SSH? > > Not ideal in my mind, since you're trying to make work act > like your home system. Which as we get more and more mobile > in our professional lives, isn't a good idea in my mind any more. > > Heck, I'm reading this from work, but I'm ssh'd into my home > system and all the processing and such is happening within a > 'screen' session using Emacs and the mail reader 'vm'. All > text based, and quick and easy to write/read/edit emails. I like GUIs for reading email, but the real problem is that mail users don't have shell accounts on my server. > Richard> One of these days I'll set up webmail and this will > be a moot > Richard> point, but I'm hoping for a quicker, more immediate solution. > > Blech. Why is the web the answer to all questions now? > *grin* And of course you would make sure to only allow HTTPS > connections to your squirrelmail web mail server running on > your home machine, right? I greatly prefer IMAP to webmail, but yeah, if I ever get around to installing squirrelmail, it'll only accept HTTPS connections. -- Rich

March 19, 2007

Re: [Wlug] programming help needed

by Keith Wright

> From: Mark Richards <mark.richards(a)massmicro.com> > > With apologies to the list if this is inappropriate in which case please > send me to a better forum.. I have no problem with Worcester Linux job leads. Don't start advertising your product here. > ... need a methodical person who documents As an admirer of Knuth and aspiring literate programmer, I'm glad to know somebody cares. I had a friend who once told me his new boss said to him "Don't waste time explaining what it does. If I need to know, I'll look at the code." What can you do but buy another round and shake your head at the sorry state of things? > and who can teach (without pain). The second time I saw this, curiosity got me. I have to ask whether this refers to the pain of the students or the pain of the teacher? Some subjects are painful to teach, some students are painful to teach. On the other hand, how are the lazy brats going to learn if you don't hit them with a ruler? -- Keith

March 19, 2007

Problems with a Sparc ULTRA1

by ken jones

I just acquired by second Sparc ULTRA1 Creator. It does not boot. After much struggle complaining about not finding sda4, it concludes: VSF: can not open root device "sda4" or 08:04 Please append a correct "root=" boot device Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 08:04 Press L1-a to return to the boot prom I've tried booting from my aurora 1.0 iso disk set. No luck. I've tried booting from my just out of the envelope GENTOO disk. No luck. Before it gives up it seems to have found the two scsi drives. It says: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id0, lun Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id1, lun It has found the following partitions partitions if that is what these are. /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4 and /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target1/lun0: p1 p3 I stopped the boot: with a "stop a". ok test scsi > CE DMA fill from address ffee2000 for 80 bytes succeeded Dma register test -- succeeded Esp register test -- succeeded Dma read test -- succeeded Dma write test -- succeeded Any ideas? Ken Jones

March 19, 2007

programming help needed

by Mark Richards

With apologies to the list if this is inappropriate in which case please send me to a better forum.. Immediately seeking a person to help me with a large and complex php/MySql/javascript/html project. The work will initially involve fixing up maintenance front ends (and getting a few to work) and will move quickly into presentation-layer coding that clients will see. For our client side code we use the Smarty templating system which provides for a very clean connection between the html and the data. The maintenance front ends are hacked out with php as single-document scripts (one script presents a record and the same one edits and saves). Good to know http post. Most of our systems are working and the partially-documented code will probably be an easy read once I provide the overview and tutorial. Tasks will be fairly loosely spec'd in the beginning so some creativity is desired and encouraged. If you're really good (I hope so) tell me how to do it better. However there may be deferral of some improvements as we push to get it fully working. Very close communications as to how the task will be achieved will be essential to avoid duplication of efforts and synergy. Documenting code would be a plus. Skill levels need to be intermediate to expert in php. Knowing how to structure a query is good. Figuring out how to accomplish something on the client side in Javascript (we try not to use much) and achieving a consistent look with the smarty/html is also essential. If you don't know smarty, don't worry. It's really easy to work with and well documented. Are you artsy? I know what looks good but have no idea how to get there. Artsy is welcome and needed, but not a show-stopper. We have at least a solid part time need now. Work for the first few days with me for familiarity, then independently. SSH certificate for access. One server for testing and another going online shortly for production. Non disclosure and data security agreement required. We can supply workstation here but nice if you can work with your own over a good connection. As in my posting for a linux sysadmin, we need a methodical person who documents and who can teach (without pain). I never ask the same stupid question more than once (sadly, the second time I may, however, re-phrase it). I might, after searching through other resources, send an email: "how the heck can I do [a certain task] in html". You might shrug and utter an epitaph. We are in the solar energy field. No government work. All green and good. Future? I haven't the foggiest idea. But ours is a good place to learn about solar energy and technology applications. mark richards SolarWave mark-dot-richards-at-massmicro-dot-com

March 19, 2007

sysadmin needed

by Mark Richards

With apologies to the list if this is inappropriate in which case please send me to a better forum.. We are immediately seeking a person to do some ad-hoc (and a few hours per month? of routine) server maintenance for us with an initial push requiring more time for a new server setup and correction of problems on existing box. We have one dedicated in service and another coming on line next week. We're a small 2-person company and are very busy trying to bring a product to market with no/little time to devote to server maintenance. List of needed skills and software we are running (open to various levels of ability in each; to discuss): - linux, of course - CentOS (almost everything we have is repository based) - yum, cron, the basics - isp firewall but also iptables used on dedicated boxes - imap mail on current server with basic web services - apache, php, mysql - ssl, amavisd, spamassassin, dovecot, clamd. - large mysql database on new server with web services (no mail) Tasks: - routine check of both servers * security issues (we have snort installed and have plugins) * performance issues * specialized backups (other than daily by host) * review logs; identify issues; resolve - software install/setup * anything new or a manual update - existing issues * infrequent timeouts * some log entries for mail that need addressing * clamd improperly installed; re-do using yum and integrate back into amavisd * spam detection a bit too generous; better techniques? - emergencies * security issues * work with host if hardware or other failure to help resolve (host is in Missouri, so phone contact of course) We are expecting more hours initially for setup of new server and cleanup of existing issues, then perhaps a weekly checkup as you may recommend to us. SSH certificate for root. Non disclosure and data security agreement required. A methodical person who documents and who can teach (without pain) would be ideal. I never ask the same stupid question more than once (sadly, the second time I may, however, re-phrase it). mark richards SolarWave mark-dot-richards-at-massmicro-dot-com

March 19, 2007

Re: [Wlug] posting rules request

by Mike Frysinger

On Monday 19 March 2007, Mark Richards wrote: > Not certain what posting rules are here and a newcomer living and > working in Littleton... > > Needing some technical help. OK to cast our net here for sysadmin and > also php/MySql/Javascript programming or elsewhere? i dont think there's any problem with people posting job offers for local linux-ish positions here ... -mike

March 19, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Mail problem for a Monday morning

by John Stoffel

Richard> It's Monday morning, I'm tired, and I've got a headache, so Richard> I'm not sure I can even explain the problem right now, let Richard> alone solve it. Richard> Work seems to block port 25 (SMTP), but not 993 (IMAP-S) or Richard> 22 (SSH), so I can SSH into my (home) mail server, or read my Richard> mail via IMAP, but I can't send anything. My (home) email Richard> account doesn't have a shell account, so I can't log-in via Richard> SSH and send email in pine or something (and that would be a Richard> PITA, anyway). Umm... if you can get into your home mail server via SSH, why can't you send email from there using plain old 'mail' command? Or do you have something similar to what I have, which is my own domain, which gets my email and then dumps it into my ISP's email system for pulling down? In that case, using my ISP's outgoing email servers was problematic, because they didn't like me using my @stoffel.org domain email address on outgoing email. Or at least they didn't like it much, and people further downstream started dropping/bouncing my emails thinking I was a spammer. So now I have postfix at home setup to use SMTPS to send all outgoing email via my domain's ISP's mail server, encrypted and all is good again. But basically, can you explain your setup in more detail please? It's not clear where the bottleneck really is. Richard> What are my options? Can I use putty to tunnel SMTP through Richard> port 22 SSH? Not ideal in my mind, since you're trying to make work act like your home system. Which as we get more and more mobile in our professional lives, isn't a good idea in my mind any more. Heck, I'm reading this from work, but I'm ssh'd into my home system and all the processing and such is happening within a 'screen' session using Emacs and the mail reader 'vm'. All text based, and quick and easy to write/read/edit emails. Richard> One of these days I'll set up webmail and this will be a moot Richard> point, but I'm hoping for a quicker, more immediate solution. Blech. Why is the web the answer to all questions now? *grin* And of course you would make sure to only allow HTTPS connections to your squirrelmail web mail server running on your home machine, right? Good luck! John

March 19, 2007

posting rules request

by Mark Richards

Not certain what posting rules are here and a newcomer living and working in Littleton... Needing some technical help. OK to cast our net here for sysadmin and also php/MySql/Javascript programming or elsewhere? /m

March 19, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Mail problem for a Monday morning

by Brett Russ

On 3/19/07, Klein, Richard <Richard.Klein(a)cytyc.com> wrote: > going through their servers, and (pardon me if this is too much > information) I want to reply to a girl's email via match.com, but > match.com expects my emails to come from match(a)richardklein.org, and I > think my emails end up in /dev/null if they come from some other > address. Obviously, I'd prefer to reply to her from home, but I haven't > been home much to even sit down at the computer lately. Oh, in that case, simply explain to her that you couldn't reply to her because your IMAP MUA wasn't properly setup to tunnel SMTP traffic via SSH and all your attempts were just ending up in /dev/null! Hiding information is not a healthy start to a new relationship you know... ;-)

March 19, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Mail problem for a Monday morning

by Klein, Richard

> -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Anderson > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:54 AM > To: Worcester Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Mail problem for a Monday morning > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:03:45AM -0400, Klein, Richard wrote: > > Work seems to block port 25 (SMTP), but not 993 (IMAP-S) or > 22 (SSH), > > so > > How about using your company's SMTP server? I've been doing that occasionally, but I don't want much personal mail going through their servers, and (pardon me if this is too much information) I want to reply to a girl's email via match.com, but match.com expects my emails to come from match(a)richardklein.org, and I think my emails end up in /dev/null if they come from some other address. Obviously, I'd prefer to reply to her from home, but I haven't been home much to even sit down at the computer lately. -- Rich

March 19, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Mail problem for a Monday morning

by Chuck Anderson

On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 11:03:45AM -0400, Klein, Richard wrote: > Work seems to block port 25 (SMTP), but not 993 (IMAP-S) or 22 (SSH), so How about using your company's SMTP server?

March 19, 2007

Mail problem for a Monday morning

by Klein, Richard

It's Monday morning, I'm tired, and I've got a headache, so I'm not sure I can even explain the problem right now, let alone solve it. Work seems to block port 25 (SMTP), but not 993 (IMAP-S) or 22 (SSH), so I can SSH into my (home) mail server, or read my mail via IMAP, but I can't send anything. My (home) email account doesn't have a shell account, so I can't log-in via SSH and send email in pine or something (and that would be a PITA, anyway). What are my options? Can I use putty to tunnel SMTP through port 22 SSH? One of these days I'll set up webmail and this will be a moot point, but I'm hoping for a quicker, more immediate solution. -- Thanks, Rich

March 19, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Image/Backup tools

by Eric Stein

There are many applications for doing backups, most of which have strong and weak points. I use 3 systems: * Homemade shell script that tgzs the entire backup set into a dated file, encrypts it with gpg, and transfers it to the backup server. o Strong points 1. Secure - no need to trust foreign server 2. High redundancy of data o Weak points 1. Bandwidth intensive (only good for small data sets) 2. Heavy on CPU usage 3. Uses a lot of disk space * Rsync o Strong points 1. Space efficient on the backup server 2. Bandwidth efficient 3. Fast o Weak points 1. No revisions; undetected data loss will be propagated to the backup server * rdiff-backup o Strong points 1. Bandwidth efficient 2. Has revisions and stores diffs compressed 3. Somewhat space efficient because of the compressed diffs o Weak points 1. Uses more space on the backup server than Rsync I use Rsync for mirroring my less important data, and rdiff-backup for my important files. All of these methods can be scheduled with cron. Eric Michael Zarozinski wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for recommendations for backup/imaging tools. We have 2 > servers runing RHEL4, one is a production server and the other a > development server. > > We were recently hit with a DOS attack and possibly a root kit attack. > It's been a long task re-installing all the software/tweaks we've made > so I'm looking for something to ease this process if it happens in the > future. > > Thanks in advance, > > Michael Z > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 18, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Image/Backup tools

by Frank Sweetser

On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 03:53:29PM -0400, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for recommendations for backup/imaging tools. We have 2 > servers runing RHEL4, one is a production server and the other a > development server. My personal favorite is Bacula. http://www.bacula.org/ It's a client/server based backup system with tons of great features. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

March 18, 2007

Image/Backup tools

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi all, I'm looking for recommendations for backup/imaging tools. We have 2 servers runing RHEL4, one is a production server and the other a development server. We were recently hit with a DOS attack and possibly a root kit attack. It's been a long task re-installing all the software/tweaks we've made so I'm looking for something to ease this process if it happens in the future. Thanks in advance, Michael Z

March 18, 2007

Stuff in need of a good home

by Eric Martin

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As some of you know, my fiancee and I just bought our first home. We are moving in two weeks and I'm trying to clean out some stuff from my basement. I have a Sun Ultra1 Sparc64 with 17" monitor, an additional graphics card, 2 internal drives and a 1GB external drive. I can't find the keyboard and mouse right now but I'm sure they 'll turn up. For all of you mac enthusiasts, I have a Beige Mac G3 (oldworld) with monitor, keyboard and mouse. I did get gentoo to run on it via bootx, and I might even be able to scrounge up CDs. Lastly (for the moment) is a Blue iMac G3 (new world) with keyboard and mouse. Email me off list, freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com if you are interested. I would like to get rid of this before Wed March 28th. Stuff is on a first come, first serve basis. Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF++1saI8VEtSi4H8RAtRMAJ40/ChfNbomLtd22D9OLOgPP7ozzwCcCUNY Egrl9o5y+4EAVzCZbbMfzjI= =iwZW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 17, 2007

FSF members meeting

by Andre Lehovich

The Free Software Foundation is having their annual member meeting in Boston on Saturday 24 March. Speakers include Richard Stallman, Gerald Sussman, and Eben Moglen. The deadline to sign up is tomorrow: http://www.fsf.org/associate/meetings/2007 --Andre ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121

March 15, 2007

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG Meeting tonight, 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI Everybody, > > This is a reminder about the WLUG meeting: tonight! > > Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid Room on the WPI > campus in Worcester, MA USA. The Access Grid Room is located in Morgan > Hall. > > See ya there! > > Andy HI Everybody, I just found out that we won't be able to get into our meeting room this evening, as Chuck and Frank are both unavailable. I also realize that many people will not see this email prior to the meeting. Unless we get lucky and something changes at the last minute, I propose that we meet outside of the Access Grid room and immediately adjourn the meeting to the pizza restaurant. I've made signs for the door to inform anybody who arrives late, and I'll post those when I get to WPI. There wasn't a speaker scheduled for this evening (but there will be a speaker in April...ask me!). I apologize for the late notice and any inconvenience this may cause you. All things considered, I think this is only the first (or maybe second) time in almost 10 years that this has happened...all in all, a very good track record! See ya later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+GXHHl0iXDssISsRAtnVAJ9uhbsLHXexiFtsTM8v1QgB58pwmACfdiRs 1vUnTUWV236xdwNjNE0rdaM= =YnUd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 14, 2007

REMINDER: WLUG Meeting tonight, 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the WLUG meeting: tonight! Wednesday, March 14, 2007 at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid Room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The Access Grid Room is located in Morgan Hall. See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF+ABPHl0iXDssISsRAmDrAJ4s8q71un0jgDodu67q0gpKSVmE2ACcDQaz IBsc8Fm01bweWO/Pg/HtKNw= =XMxE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 14, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Apache2

by Eric Stein

Configuration changes. Porting your httpd.conf may be difficult. Eric Michael Zarozinski wrote: > Does anyone know of any reasons *not* to upgrade to Apache 2.x from the > last Apache1 version (1.3.37)? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 8, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Apache2

by Scott Venier

If you have any mod_perl applications they might need to be ported. Scott Michael Zarozinski wrote: > Does anyone know of any reasons *not* to upgrade to Apache 2.x from the > last Apache1 version (1.3.37)? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 8, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Apache2

by Adam Gomes

Sure, If you are using or planning on using php on your site, it's MUCH slower under apache 2 (statically linked OR DSO). Apache 2 is a bit faster at serving up static content, though. I haven't played with Apache 2 much myself, either, but I've heard that some of the other modules suffer some performance issues under Apache2. --Adam On Thu, March 8, 2007 2:34 pm, Michael Zarozinski said: > Does anyone know of any reasons *not* to upgrade to Apache 2.x from the > last Apache1 version (1.3.37)? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 8, 2007

Apache2

by Michael Zarozinski

Does anyone know of any reasons *not* to upgrade to Apache 2.x from the last Apache1 version (1.3.37)?

March 8, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem

by Bruce Linnell

Andy, Eric, and Mike, Andy nailed it with "/opt/gnome/bin/gnome-wm". That got the manager back up, which, in this case was metacity, as Mike suggested. Once that was fixed I was able to continue and get xgl running so I now have the rotating cube desktop and other effects. Thank you all for the quick responses. Tux has happy feet again :-) Bruce

March 3, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem

by Mike Leo

when mine screws up i start metacity ----- Original Message ---- From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 8:56:00 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andy Stewart wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: >> Hi Bruce, > >> If you can fire up any window manager, it should allow you to manipulate >> your windows, bail out cleanly, or whatever you'd like to do (go back to >> Yast and turn off 3D, etc). > >> For KDE, the window manager is /opt/kde3/bin/kwin, if I'm not mistaken. >> If there is one terminal window available in which you can type a >> command, try that and see if it starts the window manager. > > Oops, now I've just read that you are using Gnome. OK, same thing > applies, but substitute in the name of the Gnome window manager. I > don't know what that might be, unfortunately. I'm sure somebody else > will chime in with that information. Try this: /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-wm - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6NWwHl0iXDssISsRAlMrAJ9Cs61hrvkS20MNoy81u79vRiOmbACeM3ZQ 7KSGDgmN7rzzFJ9BGilpwbQ= =2+Lo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 3, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andy Stewart wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: >> Hi Bruce, > >> If you can fire up any window manager, it should allow you to manipulate >> your windows, bail out cleanly, or whatever you'd like to do (go back to >> Yast and turn off 3D, etc). > >> For KDE, the window manager is /opt/kde3/bin/kwin, if I'm not mistaken. >> If there is one terminal window available in which you can type a >> command, try that and see if it starts the window manager. > > Oops, now I've just read that you are using Gnome. OK, same thing > applies, but substitute in the name of the Gnome window manager. I > don't know what that might be, unfortunately. I'm sure somebody else > will chime in with that information. Try this: /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-wm - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6NWwHl0iXDssISsRAlMrAJ9Cs61hrvkS20MNoy81u79vRiOmbACeM3ZQ 7KSGDgmN7rzzFJ9BGilpwbQ= =2+Lo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 3, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem

by Eric Stein

What is the content of ~/.xinitrc on your system? Mine for gnome (I suspect it broke yours): eastein@glamdring:/home/eastein$ cat .xinitrc #!/bin/sh gnome-session Eric Bruce Linnell wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm running openSuSE 10.2, and decided I wanted to try some of the 3D > Desktop effects. So I tried activating them through the YaST control > panel. Now not only do I not have 3D effects, I seem to have lost my > window manager as well. I can open apps and applets, utilities and > folders, but none have a title bar to grab for moving the window, and > none have the max, min, and close buttons, and if it doesn't have a > close or quit option in a drop down menu, I can't close it (them). > > So I end up with a screen full of unmoveable, unresizeable, and in some > cases, uncloseable windows. It reminds me of an old steamer trunk with > decals plastered all over it. > > The boot screen only shows 2 icons just prior to opening the desktop: > the desktop icon, and the Gnome footprint icon. The double window icon > is no longer there. > > Booting as root is normal with all 3 icons in the splash screen, and > full window(s) functionality. So this problem seems contained to my user > account. > > I'm hopeful that restoring the window manager will also let me configure > the 3D effects, but if not, I'd like to get back to normal. Any > suggestions? > > Bruce > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 3, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andy Stewart wrote: > > Hi Bruce, > > If you can fire up any window manager, it should allow you to manipulate > your windows, bail out cleanly, or whatever you'd like to do (go back to > Yast and turn off 3D, etc). > > For KDE, the window manager is /opt/kde3/bin/kwin, if I'm not mistaken. > If there is one terminal window available in which you can type a > command, try that and see if it starts the window manager. Oops, now I've just read that you are using Gnome. OK, same thing applies, but substitute in the name of the Gnome window manager. I don't know what that might be, unfortunately. I'm sure somebody else will chime in with that information. I assumed KDE because that's pretty standard for SuSE. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6NRBHl0iXDssISsRAnH6AJ4xsbRIwo2yWs833FBZEU14rEO0yQCfUiDh vy2/9rl4hLHfLnddzIE0Ono= =8wLi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 3, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Window manager problem

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bruce, If you can fire up any window manager, it should allow you to manipulate your windows, bail out cleanly, or whatever you'd like to do (go back to Yast and turn off 3D, etc). For KDE, the window manager is /opt/kde3/bin/kwin, if I'm not mistaken. If there is one terminal window available in which you can type a command, try that and see if it starts the window manager. Failing that, can you get to a text console via Ctrl-Alt-F1 ? If so, try this: (setenv DISPLAY :0; /opt/kde3/bin/kwin)& or (export DISPLAY=:0; /opt/kde3/bin/kwin)& The first command works in (t)csh, while the other works in BASH, depending on which is your login shell. If you haven't explicitly modified it, it will be bash, in which case the 2nd command should work. You could also get to a text console, log in as root, and drop to runlevel 3 (which would kill off your X windows session) thus: telinit 3 To restart X windows, try this: telinit 5 You could also run YaST from the text console. The interface isn't as pretty, and it doesn't use the mouse (think tabs and arrow keys), but it is perfectly functional. There should be no need to reboot. I hope this helps, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF6NPYHl0iXDssISsRAq/uAJ0Z+qzCOR9/whW01Xbt08Q2B5rd/gCdHesi p/k/obqiqpuTt4Z1zhNNYt0= =9a9K -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 3, 2007

(no subject)

by Bruce Linnell

Oh yeah, I'm also using Gnome.

March 3, 2007

Window manager problem

by Bruce Linnell

Hi everyone, I'm running openSuSE 10.2, and decided I wanted to try some of the 3D Desktop effects. So I tried activating them through the YaST control panel. Now not only do I not have 3D effects, I seem to have lost my window manager as well. I can open apps and applets, utilities and folders, but none have a title bar to grab for moving the window, and none have the max, min, and close buttons, and if it doesn't have a close or quit option in a drop down menu, I can't close it (them). So I end up with a screen full of unmoveable, unresizeable, and in some cases, uncloseable windows. It reminds me of an old steamer trunk with decals plastered all over it. The boot screen only shows 2 icons just prior to opening the desktop: the desktop icon, and the Gnome footprint icon. The double window icon is no longer there. Booting as root is normal with all 3 icons in the splash screen, and full window(s) functionality. So this problem seems contained to my user account. I'm hopeful that restoring the window manager will also let me configure the 3D effects, but if not, I'd like to get back to normal. Any suggestions? Bruce

March 3, 2007

Re: [Wlug] SATA chipset Sil 3132

by Eric Stein

I figured this exact solution out before I went to dinner, but I hadn't gotten around to emailing it out yet. Here's the link I got the info from: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=42a7ff7f4422b32a30… See edM's second post. Thanks for your help, though! My RAID is now building for the first time! glamdring proc # cat mdstat Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] md0 : active raid5 sde[4] sdd[2] sdc[1] sdb[0] 1172133888 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_] [=============>.......] recovery = 69.1% (270093056/390711296) finish=34.2min speed=58640K/sec unused devices: <none> Eric Jamie Guinan wrote: > On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Eric Stein wrote: > > >> Hi all, >> >> I've recently acquired some more hard drives and I just plugged one in >> to the secondary SATA ports on my motherboard for the first time. >> However, my Gentoo box isn't seeing it. I have an Abit AN8-32X >> motherboard (the other drives are on the Nvidia SATAII controller). For >> info about the board, go here: >> >> http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/an8-32x/ >> >> In make menuconfig (from the kernel I am running right now (2.6.18)): >> <*> Silicon Image chipset support >> > > I'm have 2.6.19 handy, and I see, > > Device Drivers ---> > ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support ---> > < > Silicon Image chipset support > > but also, > > Device Drivers ---> > Serial ATA (prod) and Parallel ATA (experimental) drivers ---> > < > Silicon Image SATA support > < > Silicon Image 3124/3132 SATA support > > I think the latter is what you might need. Its the new libata... > reworked IDE... thingy. I haven't followed it that closely, but this > link might be of interest, > > http://lwn.net/Articles/198344/ > > -Jamie > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 2, 2007

Re: [Wlug] SATA chipset Sil 3132

by Jamie Guinan

On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Eric Stein wrote: > Hi all, > > I've recently acquired some more hard drives and I just plugged one in > to the secondary SATA ports on my motherboard for the first time. > However, my Gentoo box isn't seeing it. I have an Abit AN8-32X > motherboard (the other drives are on the Nvidia SATAII controller). For > info about the board, go here: > > http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/an8-32x/ > > In make menuconfig (from the kernel I am running right now (2.6.18)): > <*> Silicon Image chipset support I'm have 2.6.19 handy, and I see, Device Drivers ---> ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support ---> < > Silicon Image chipset support but also, Device Drivers ---> Serial ATA (prod) and Parallel ATA (experimental) drivers ---> < > Silicon Image SATA support < > Silicon Image 3124/3132 SATA support I think the latter is what you might need. Its the new libata... reworked IDE... thingy. I haven't followed it that closely, but this link might be of interest, http://lwn.net/Articles/198344/ -Jamie

March 2, 2007

SATA chipset Sil 3132

by Eric Stein

Hi all, I've recently acquired some more hard drives and I just plugged one in to the secondary SATA ports on my motherboard for the first time. However, my Gentoo box isn't seeing it. I have an Abit AN8-32X motherboard (the other drives are on the Nvidia SATAII controller). For info about the board, go here: http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/an8-32x/ In make menuconfig (from the kernel I am running right now (2.6.18)): <*> Silicon Image chipset support My BIOS lists a drive in the Sil SATA display during IDE/SATA scanning. I have swapped the drive to the other controller to see if it is a hardware problem with the drive. It shows up in LSPCI, but it doesn't show up in fdisk -l. glamdring dev # lspci 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2) 00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2) 00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2) 00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2) 00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2) 00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2) 00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:09.0 Memory controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 Memory Controller (rev a4) 00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 ISA Bridge (rev a4) 00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation CK804 SMBus (rev a2) 00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 USB Controller (rev a4) 00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) 00:0f.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 IDE (rev f3) 00:10.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3) <====== works fine 00:11.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK804 Serial ATA Controller (rev f3) <====== works fine 00:12.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCI Bridge (rev a2) 00:13.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3) 00:14.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:15.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:16.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:17.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 PCIE Bridge (rev a3) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:00.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3132 Serial ATA Raid II Controller (rev 01) <====== look, there it is 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)] (rev a1) 04:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)] (rev a1) glamdring dev # fdisk -l Disk /dev/hdc: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/hdc doesn't contain a valid partition table Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 17 136521 83 Linux /dev/sda2 18 516 4008217+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda3 517 1513 8008402+ 83 Linux /dev/sda4 1514 9729 65995020 83 Linux Disk /dev/sdb: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table Disk /dev/sdc: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table Disk /dev/sdd: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk /dev/sdd doesn't contain a valid partition table glamdring dev # Where's /dev/sde hiding? Eric

March 2, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Comprimised servers?

by Karl Hiramoto

What gives you evidence they were compromised? To what extent was security breached? Was just a website defaced, did they get user, or root access? Do you know how they got in? You may want to audit all of your running services and check if there are known exploits. Unfortunately your best option may be to backup your data, format disks, and reinstall the OS. It can be hard to tell if a back door was installed. .. karl Michael Zarozinski wrote: > Hi all, > > It appears as if 2 servers we have were compromised. Does anyone know of > someone or a business we can get to examine our servers and tell us what > to do? Our hosting company is not the easiest to deal with and I'm > having trouble getting anything beyond level 1 support from them. > > Thank you in advance, > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 28, 2007

Comprimised servers?

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi all, It appears as if 2 servers we have were compromised. Does anyone know of someone or a business we can get to examine our servers and tell us what to do? Our hosting company is not the easiest to deal with and I'm having trouble getting anything beyond level 1 support from them. Thank you in advance, Michael

Feb. 28, 2007

Ham Radio meeting about GNU Radio...

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gang, FYI: I thought some of you might be interested in this meeting regarding GNU Radio. I think I'm going to attend, but admittedly its a lot closer to my house than it probably is to yours. Later, Andy - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [PART/WB1GOF] FW: 2/24 CWA Meeting on Gnu Radio Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:02:48 -0500 From: Steve Telsey <steve.n1bda(a)verizon.net> To: PART <PART-L(a)wb1gof.org> - -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Pettengill [mailto:ghp@space.mit.edu] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:27 PM To: CWA Members Subject: 2/24 CWA Meeting Dear CWA Members, As you already know, there will be a meeting of the Colonial Wireless Association next Wednesday evening, 28 February at 7:30pm, in the Concord-Carlisle High School on Thoreau St. The invited speaker is Dr. Gregory D. Troxel, N1DAM, who is a network researcher at BBN Technologies working on software radios for the Department of Defense. Greg will give an overview of software-defined radio, a new technology that is already changing Ham Radio, and will talk about a free software radio package called GNU Radio. Greg will also describe a hardware front-end for software radios, the USRP, that uses daughter-boards for various functions, from transceivers for 440, 902, 1296 and 2400 MHz to boards for IF use. Greg's talk will highlight the challenges in changing GNU Radio from receiving continuous signals to packet radio. Following the talk, Greg will demonstrate GNU Radio and the USRP with several daughter-boards. Unfortunately, I will be unable to join you, but hope for a good attendance. As a result of generous donations over the past month, our treasury now stands at $2194.28. 73, Gordon Pettengill W1OUN - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/696 - Release Date: 2/21/2007 _______________________________________________ Police Amateur Radio Team (PART) of Westford Post messages to: PART-L(a)wb1gof.org (Un)Subscribe at http://PART-L.wb1gof.org - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF4OekHl0iXDssISsRAs5MAJoD+48OSb+BkTaeE1idTvCDUvHvOgCfVvWw wdMkFN4H2sDsAePHOavWgOo= =J4// -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Feb. 25, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Amarok

by Hanley.net

Eric Stein wrote: > Wow, I use amarok nearly constantly and I never heard this before. > > Eric I just checked Wikipedia and there is a mention of the pop-up (Easter Egg) towards the bottom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarok_%28audio%29 I noticed I said "flec" in my post. That should have been "flac", of course. :-) -- Gary

Feb. 23, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Amarok

by Eric Stein

Wow, I use amarok nearly constantly and I never heard this before. Eric Gary Hanley wrote: > I picked up a Cowon iAudio U3 a few weeks ago after and exhaustive > search for a player with a good amount of memory (2GB) and plays > ogg and flec files. > > Anyway, I've been burning my CDs to ogg/vorbis as time allows to build > a library for myself and recently burned my old copy of Mike > Oldfield's _Amarok_. > > I honestly never made the connection between the name of the album and > my new favorite media player, but when I started playing amarok.ogg > in the Amarok player this morning this popped up: > > "One of Mike Oldfield's best pieces of work, Amarok, inspired the name > behind the audio-player you are currently using. Thanks for choosing > Amarok! > Mark Kretschmann > Max Howell > Chris Muehlhaeuser > The many other people who have helped make Amarok what it is" > > Cool! Just thought I'd share that. :-) > > -- Gary > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 23, 2007

Amarok

by Gary Hanley

I picked up a Cowon iAudio U3 a few weeks ago after and exhaustive search for a player with a good amount of memory (2GB) and plays ogg and flec files. Anyway, I've been burning my CDs to ogg/vorbis as time allows to build a library for myself and recently burned my old copy of Mike Oldfield's _Amarok_. I honestly never made the connection between the name of the album and my new favorite media player, but when I started playing amarok.ogg in the Amarok player this morning this popped up: "One of Mike Oldfield's best pieces of work, Amarok, inspired the name behind the audio-player you are currently using. Thanks for choosing Amarok! Mark Kretschmann Max Howell Chris Muehlhaeuser The many other people who have helped make Amarok what it is" Cool! Just thought I'd share that. :-) -- Gary

Feb. 22, 2007

Dell survey

by Mike Leo

http://www.dellideastorm.com/ I found this interesting.

Feb. 22, 2007

Re: [Wlug] interesting backups problem

by Eric Stein

It is mostly full. It's not possible to shrink it enough to make a difference. Interesting idea, though. I'm borrowing a 200GB drive from a friend so I can use it as scratch space, but the IDE to USB adapter is producing some interesting results in /var/log/messages... Feb 21 22:23:30 glamdring kernel: usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6 Feb 21 22:23:31 glamdring kernel: usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 21 22:23:31 glamdring kernel: scsi7 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Feb 21 22:23:41 glamdring kernel: usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 6 Feb 21 22:23:41 glamdring kernel: scsi 7:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery Does anyone know what this means? Is the drive dead? Eric Aaron Haviland wrote: > Eric Stein wrote, on Feb 18, 2007 at 20:18 EST: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've got an interesting issue with disk usage. I have a hard disk image >> (from dd) stored on a server, and it needs to be compressed it to make >> room for other data. The image is 160 GB, but I only have 30 GB of free >> space to work with; the data isn't compressible enough to fit in 30 GB >> in the meantime. I don't need the image right now and having only a >> compressed copy is perfectly fine. How can I compress the image while >> simultaneously deleting the old data? I can think of a way to do it >> using perl, dd, and some other tools, but I'd much prefer to do it the >> "right" way if there is one. >> > > Is the image completely full or is there free space within the image? > i.e., might you be able to resize it smaller with ext2resize or > somesuch? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 22, 2007

Re: [Wlug] interesting backups problem

by Aaron Haviland

Eric Stein wrote, on Feb 18, 2007 at 20:18 EST: > Hi all, > > I've got an interesting issue with disk usage. I have a hard disk image > (from dd) stored on a server, and it needs to be compressed it to make > room for other data. The image is 160 GB, but I only have 30 GB of free > space to work with; the data isn't compressible enough to fit in 30 GB > in the meantime. I don't need the image right now and having only a > compressed copy is perfectly fine. How can I compress the image while > simultaneously deleting the old data? I can think of a way to do it > using perl, dd, and some other tools, but I'd much prefer to do it the > "right" way if there is one. Is the image completely full or is there free space within the image? i.e., might you be able to resize it smaller with ext2resize or somesuch? -- Aaron

Feb. 21, 2007

Re: [Wlug] switch distros???

by Brendan

On Saturday 17 February 2007, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > A big win would be to get my 17 yr old son off windows. He's forever > infecting the windows box with junk from his web surfing. Install Ubuntu (I prefer Kubuntu, but hey I do KDE devel). Set up *AHEAD OF TIME* all paths, icons, multimedia codecs, etc. Anything you could possibly want to do in Windows....Just to cut down on the bitching later. In the meantime, install Firefox and remove all IE icons. Remove AOL, no matter what the wife says. Use a stick if necessary. Just tell her that "AOL broke". Say nothing further. Your son will want games. Get him a Wii. Buy an extra controller and invite me over. I kill at Bowling.

Feb. 20, 2007

Re: [Wlug] interesting backups problem

by Adam Keck

Perhaps... 1. Copy off a chunk of it with a split-like tool (dd may do the trick with "seek") or some code. Make the chunk small enough such that the chunk copy and the compressed version of the chunk will fit in 30GB. 2. Compress the chunk. 3. Truncate the chunk off of the disk image. 4. Repeat. It's risky, though, since the original file gets altered. -Adam On 2/18/07, Eric Stein <eastein(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've got an interesting issue with disk usage. I have a hard disk image > (from dd) stored on a server, and it needs to be compressed it to make > room for other data. The image is 160 GB, but I only have 30 GB of free > space to work with; the data isn't compressible enough to fit in 30 GB > in the meantime. I don't need the image right now and having only a > compressed copy is perfectly fine. How can I compress the image while > simultaneously deleting the old data? I can think of a way to do it > using perl, dd, and some other tools, but I'd much prefer to do it the > "right" way if there is one. > > Eric > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -Adam

Feb. 19, 2007

Re: [Wlug] switch distros???

by Bruce Linnell

Bill, I've been a Linux user for less than a month now, so take this with a grain of salt. In my search for a distro, I first tried Gentoo and Ubuntu, and finally installed openSuSE. Its a large distro (5 CDs, or 1 DVD), so you may have space considerations. For me, anyway, its been more user friendly than the others - YaST is a blast...lol. I think the key here as far as your family goes is to use the same distro for all, and that should be the one you are happiest with, because in the final analysis its going to be you at the help desk while they climb the learning curve. Is there enough room on your son's box to set it up for dual booting? Just a thought... Good luck, Bruce On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 17:00 -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I have an opportunity to get my wife to consider switching from > Windows to linux, but I don't think Fedora is the right distro for > her. I'm wondering about Linspire/Freespire (Freespire is to Linspire > as Fedora is to RedHat?) or Ubuntu. (I've been using Redhat & Fedora > since '98.) I've also been frustrated at some of the compatibility > problems (like wireless) with Fedora, so I'm considering switching, > too. On the other hand, I like being able to get some of the newest > apps, like the newest gnucash, on Fedora. > > Eric Raymond's recent piece on Slashdot was pretty convincing, too. > He argued that it is good for the linux open/free community to get > linux in as many places as possible, even if it means mixing the > distros with commercial drivers, because linux needs more market share > in order to succeed against windows, particularly as 64-bit comes on > the scene. > > The "family license" of Linspire seems pretty attractive, too. > > A big win would be to get my 17 yr old son off windows. He's forever > infecting the windows box with junk from his web surfing. > > My most-used apps: > Open office > Tetex/latex > ps utils > gnucash > mutt > VPN (compatible with my work, which uses Cisco) > wine > perl > firefox > USB devices: scanner, drive, camera > code development utils > multimedia (not so good on Fedora) > gpg > > My wife would like to use Publisher (windows). She might be able to > use Scribus (I haven't used it successfully). > Her favorites: > AOL (I can't break her loose of this) > MS office apps > > Suggestions? > > Thanks, > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 19, 2007

interesting backups problem

by Eric Stein

Hi all, I've got an interesting issue with disk usage. I have a hard disk image (from dd) stored on a server, and it needs to be compressed it to make room for other data. The image is 160 GB, but I only have 30 GB of free space to work with; the data isn't compressible enough to fit in 30 GB in the meantime. I don't need the image right now and having only a compressed copy is perfectly fine. How can I compress the image while simultaneously deleting the old data? I can think of a way to do it using perl, dd, and some other tools, but I'd much prefer to do it the "right" way if there is one. Eric

Feb. 19, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Update

by Eric Stein

Hi Bruce, At my apartment there are 3 Linux desktops and 4 Windows machines. My fileserver downstairs also acts as a CUPS/Samba printserver (it runs Gentoo Linux). If you are using Gentoo, you can use these directions to configure this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Native_Windows_Printing_with_CUPS/Samba Otherwise, I don't know. I'm sure doing the same is possible on other distros as well. Please note that your wife may be disagreeable to having printing not working at all for a day or so while you wrestle with cups and samba, so I don't know how helpful this info is. Eric Put Bruce Linnell wrote: > My wife complained because she couldn't print something from her > computer. I checked it out and found the print queue populated with the > test pages I had tried to print from the Linux box. > > So the good news is that the pages are making it to the printer, and the > bad news is that they are still not being printed. In fact, I could not > cancel the first job. I had to reboot to clear the queue. Which then let > my wife print her job. > > When I again tried to print, the printer made noises like it was going > to start, but then just stalled again. Another reboot for me, and an > update for the list. > > Anyone know of a possible fix? > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 19, 2007

Update

by Bruce Linnell

My wife complained because she couldn't print something from her computer. I checked it out and found the print queue populated with the test pages I had tried to print from the Linux box. So the good news is that the pages are making it to the printer, and the bad news is that they are still not being printed. In fact, I could not cancel the first job. I had to reboot to clear the queue. Which then let my wife print her job. When I again tried to print, the printer made noises like it was going to start, but then just stalled again. Another reboot for me, and an update for the list. Anyone know of a possible fix?

Feb. 18, 2007

This 'n that

by Bruce Linnell

I want to thank everyone at Thursday night's meeting for the warm welcome. What a treat it was to be sitting in a group and being able to use words like "distro", "Gnome", and "YaST" without drawing strange looks. The pizza was good, too. :-) I learned alot, but not as much as I thought I had. When I tried to get my printer functional I must have forgotten or misunderstood the advice that was shared with me. (I will be bringing a notebook with me next meeting.) I've got openSuSE 10.2 and access the net through a wireless router. There are 4 boxes on the LAN and the other 3 are WinXP systems. The printer we use is connected to one of those machines. I can ping the printer host box from my Linux system. Printer sharing is turned on at the host, and the XP machines print fine through the LAN. The CUPS job monitor acts as if the print jobs are being sent, right down to the progress bar and the printer icon going from green to yellow and back to green, with no error messages. But of course, there is no page forthcoming from the printer or this email would have been much shorter. It sounded so simple at the meeting...

Feb. 18, 2007

switch distros???

by Bill Mills-Curran

I have an opportunity to get my wife to consider switching from Windows to linux, but I don't think Fedora is the right distro for her. I'm wondering about Linspire/Freespire (Freespire is to Linspire as Fedora is to RedHat?) or Ubuntu. (I've been using Redhat & Fedora since '98.) I've also been frustrated at some of the compatibility problems (like wireless) with Fedora, so I'm considering switching, too. On the other hand, I like being able to get some of the newest apps, like the newest gnucash, on Fedora. Eric Raymond's recent piece on Slashdot was pretty convincing, too. He argued that it is good for the linux open/free community to get linux in as many places as possible, even if it means mixing the distros with commercial drivers, because linux needs more market share in order to succeed against windows, particularly as 64-bit comes on the scene. The "family license" of Linspire seems pretty attractive, too. A big win would be to get my 17 yr old son off windows. He's forever infecting the windows box with junk from his web surfing. My most-used apps: Open office Tetex/latex ps utils gnucash mutt VPN (compatible with my work, which uses Cisco) wine perl firefox USB devices: scanner, drive, camera code development utils multimedia (not so good on Fedora) gpg My wife would like to use Publisher (windows). She might be able to use Scribus (I haven't used it successfully). Her favorites: AOL (I can't break her loose of this) MS office apps Suggestions? Thanks, Bill

Feb. 17, 2007

Re: [Wlug] linux eye candy / video card recommendation sought

by Chuck Anderson

On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 09:58:27AM -0800, Andrew Perry wrote: > My question: In case the Radeon 7500 isn't up to the > task, or for future expansion, are there any > particular low-cost video cards that anyone would > recommend which are very well supported under linux ? > By "very well supported", I mean that it should work > "out of the box" with all of the major distros, at > least if this is possible. For 3D acceleration out-of-the-box (meaning supported by Open Source drivers), you only really have two choices: Intel graphics, or ATI. I believe NVidia support is being worked on, though (nouveau drivers). Unfortunately Intel graphics are only built into their chipsets, so you only find them on motherboard integrated video cards and laptops. I've been using ATI cards in recent years, and have been very happy with the progression of OSS support of their 3D acceleration. My laptop's ATI FireGL (radeon) video "Just Works(TM)" with Compiz, the 3D desktop eye-candy that ships in Fedora Core 6.

Feb. 15, 2007

Re: [Wlug] linux eye candy / video card recommendation sought

by Clint Moyer

I could not get Beryl to work with my Radeon 8500. I think if you look through the online documentation, the minimum recommended ATI card is a Radeon 9200. I ended up buying a used Nvidia GF6600 and it works very well. Enough so that I bought a 2nd one for another box. You can find a brand new GF6200 256M for about $60 online. I should think you can find one used for around $40 or less. These are all 3 or 4 generations old, so hardcore Windows gamers have them to unload. As far as "out of the box" goes, you're not going to find it. A default Linux installation will use an open source driver, but you'll need the closed source drivers from either ATI or Nvidia to make Beryl functional. The ATI driver is a PITA. Nvidia does a better job. That said, you can google detailed instructions to install either on your distro of choice. Clint Andrew Perry wrote: > I heard on the Linux Action Show podcast about the > Beryl project, which seems to offer linux users > both eye candy and improved functionality through > a 3D user interface. > > They say that Beryl will run acceptably with 256 MB > and an ATI Radeon 7500, Geforce 3, or equivalent or > better video card (seems like these are all a few > years old, which is great for my budget.)Since my linux machine has 512 MB RAM but only > on-board video, I found a used $20 Radeon 7500 on ebay > and will try Beryl out. [Side note: I bought an > "afordable performance pc" for linux from madtux.com > for about $200, and am generally satisified but for > the power supply which sounds like a snowblower. Very > minimalist interior. Space for 6 HDD's, for example.] > > My question: In case the Radeon 7500 isn't up to the > task, or for future expansion, are there any > particular low-cost video cards that anyone would > recommend which are very well supported under linux ? > By "very well supported", I mean that it should work > "out of the box" with all of the major distros, at > least if this is possible. > > I'm sure that avid gamers would want only the best in > video cards, but there are probably a lot of folks > like myself who would like a pretty good video card > for linux with no hassles. > > Thanks in advance. > > -Dr. Andrew B. Perry > Dept. of Mathematics, Springfield College > Schoo Hall Room 123 > 263 Alden St., Springfield MA 01109 > Work Phone (413)748-3193 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

Feb. 15, 2007

Re: [Wlug] linux eye candy / video card recommendation sought

by John Stoffel

Andrew> Since my linux machine has 512 MB RAM but only on-board video, Andrew> I found a used $20 Radeon 7500 on ebay and will try Beryl Andrew> out. [Side note: I bought an "afordable performance pc" for Andrew> linux from madtux.com for about $200, and am generally Andrew> satisified but for the power supply which sounds like a Andrew> snowblower. Very minimalist interior. Space for 6 HDD's, for Andrew> example.] This is a neat and interesting site, though I think Dell's clearance store to also be full of good deals as well. I wonder why you didn't get more RAM on that box as well, since 1Gb would make a big improvement here I'm sure. But the Knoppix PC is tempting for my kid at home, though I think I can find a used Dell/Random PC which will do fine. He just wants to find and print pictures of whales at this point. *grin* Andrew> My question: In case the Radeon 7500 isn't up to the task, or Andrew> for future expansion, are there any particular low-cost video Andrew> cards that anyone would recommend which are very well Andrew> supported under linux ? By "very well supported", I mean that Andrew> it should work "out of the box" with all of the major distros, Andrew> at least if this is possible. I still like my Matrox G450, it's got great 2-d performance, and a nice crisp display. I'm right now at work using a Dell P4 box with i865 graphics on a Samsuny SyncMaster 204B LCD and it's just fine too. I could care less about 3-d at this point. The bigger issue I have is that dual PIII Xeon 550mhz CPUs on my home machine just don't cut it as well for photo editing and such. Poor me. :] John

Feb. 14, 2007

linux eye candy / video card recommendation sought

by Andrew Perry

I heard on the Linux Action Show podcast about the Beryl project, which seems to offer linux users both eye candy and improved functionality through a 3D user interface. They say that Beryl will run acceptably with 256 MB and an ATI Radeon 7500, Geforce 3, or equivalent or better video card (seems like these are all a few years old, which is great for my budget.) Since my linux machine has 512 MB RAM but only on-board video, I found a used $20 Radeon 7500 on ebay and will try Beryl out. [Side note: I bought an "afordable performance pc" for linux from madtux.com for about $200, and am generally satisified but for the power supply which sounds like a snowblower. Very minimalist interior. Space for 6 HDD's, for example.] My question: In case the Radeon 7500 isn't up to the task, or for future expansion, are there any particular low-cost video cards that anyone would recommend which are very well supported under linux ? By "very well supported", I mean that it should work "out of the box" with all of the major distros, at least if this is possible. I'm sure that avid gamers would want only the best in video cards, but there are probably a lot of folks like myself who would like a pretty good video card for linux with no hassles. Thanks in advance. -Dr. Andrew B. Perry Dept. of Mathematics, Springfield College Schoo Hall Room 123 263 Alden St., Springfield MA 01109 Work Phone (413)748-3193

Feb. 14, 2007

Linux kernel expert needed

by John Spencer

Our client in northern MA is looking for a Linux kernel expert for a 6+ mth project. Must have experience with Linux kernel 2.4, any experience with 2.6 is a plus. Also any experience with security and MIPS is a plus as well. If you are interested in more details, please contact me via the phone # or email below. Regards, John John Spencer (978) 256-1113 ext 7608 jspencer(a)optimaleng.com OPTIMAL ENGINEERING PARTNERS "Your Optimal partner for full-lifecycle engineering services in embedded and real-time, systems and application development" www.optimalengineering.com <http://www.optimalengineering.com/>

Feb. 13, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Public net access

by Clint Moyer

There's Victory Cigar Bar at the end of Shrewsbury St. Comfy couches, but no pool tables. Of course, it may not be the ideal environment if you're afraid of lung cancer. ---- Aaron Haviland <orion(a)parsed.net> wrote: ============= I've been living in the Boston area for a few years, but recently moved back to Webster, and I'm searching to fill an addiction I developed in Somerville. I'm curious to know if there are any good cafe's with free wireless in the southern Worcester county area. Bonus points if they have pool tables and comfy couches. The only cafe I know of is Java Hut (I think it's called), but I haven't had a chance to get up there to check it out. Also, as my laptop has a tendancy to not work (I think it's a bad connection in the video component of the mobo), and I'm relatively broke at the moment, are there any places with public terminals available? -- Aaron Haviland _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 13, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Public net access

by Desdinova

On 2/12/07, Aaron Haviland <orion(a)parsed.net> wrote: <SNIP> > I'm curious to know if there are any good cafe's with free wireless in > the southern Worcester county area. Bonus points if they have pool > tables and comfy couches. This is woostah county, we don't take kindly to no comfort. :P > The only cafe I know of is Java Hut (I think it's called), but I haven't > had a chance to get up there to check it out. The hut does have tables, two couches, electrical outlets and fair coffee. However, it's a bit of a "scene" place with musicians and poets. During the day, it's generally dead and quiet; unemployed artists and college students are still in bed! Most evenings, though, are loud, have an event planned, or both. The help sometimes isn't. There's also panera bread on rte 9 in shrewsbury. Interestingly enough, Arby's in auburn has comfy booths, delicious seasoned curlies and free wifi! There's only one or two booths with a plug near them but it's generally quiet and I've stayed until a little before closing a few times with no trouble. > Also, as my laptop has a tendancy to not work (I think it's a bad > connection in the video component of the mobo), and I'm relatively broke > at the moment, are there any places with public terminals available? All the local libraries I've been to, southbridge, oxford, auburn have public terminals available for an hour or two's use per day. I haven't run into any trouble bringing putty in on a floppy or cd. I have been asked what I was doing, but then left alone. > -- > Aaron Haviland Take care, James

Feb. 13, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Public net access

by Richard Klein

Aaron Haviland wrote: > >>> Also, as my laptop has a tendancy to not work (I think it's a bad >>> connection in the video component of the mobo), and I'm relatively broke >>> at the moment, are there any places with public terminals available? >> Many public libraries have terminals available. > > Ah, sorry about my lack of specificity. Public terminals that allow ssh, > and in a somewhat noisy environment (because I honestly can't get *any* > coding done without a certain amount of background noise) The main branch of the Worcester Public Library has wireless and allows ssh (at least if you're using your own laptop). It was fairly quiet while I was there, but was distinctly lacking in coffee. I think the Starbucks at Grove & W. Boylston has wireless access, but Andre's link will probably say if it does. Oh, the library also has electrical outlets on the floor under the tables. -- Rich

Feb. 13, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Public net access

by Aaron Haviland

Andre Lehovich wrote, on Feb 12, 2007 at 23:29 EST: > --- Aaron Haviland <orion(a)parsed.net> wrote: > > I'm curious to know if there are any good cafe's with free wireless in > > the southern Worcester county area. Bonus points if they have pool > > tables and comfy couches. > > A small list of free wifi spots in Worcester: > http://www.worcesteractivist.org/wiki/Free_Wi-Fi_Hotspots Excellent! Thank you. > > Also, as my laptop has a tendancy to not work (I think it's a bad > > connection in the video component of the mobo), and I'm relatively broke > > at the moment, are there any places with public terminals available? > > Many public libraries have terminals available. Ah, sorry about my lack of specificity. Public terminals that allow ssh, and in a somewhat noisy environment (because I honestly can't get *any* coding done without a certain amount of background noise) -- Aaron

Feb. 13, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Public net access

by Andre Lehovich

--- Aaron Haviland <orion(a)parsed.net> wrote: > I'm curious to know if there are any good cafe's with free wireless in > the southern Worcester county area. Bonus points if they have pool > tables and comfy couches. A small list of free wifi spots in Worcester: http://www.worcesteractivist.org/wiki/Free_Wi-Fi_Hotspots > Also, as my laptop has a tendancy to not work (I think it's a bad > connection in the video component of the mobo), and I'm relatively broke > at the moment, are there any places with public terminals available? Many public libraries have terminals available. --Andre ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

Feb. 13, 2007

Public net access

by Aaron Haviland

I've been living in the Boston area for a few years, but recently moved back to Webster, and I'm searching to fill an addiction I developed in Somerville. I'm curious to know if there are any good cafe's with free wireless in the southern Worcester county area. Bonus points if they have pool tables and comfy couches. The only cafe I know of is Java Hut (I think it's called), but I haven't had a chance to get up there to check it out. Also, as my laptop has a tendancy to not work (I think it's a bad connection in the video component of the mobo), and I'm relatively broke at the moment, are there any places with public terminals available? -- Aaron Haviland

Feb. 13, 2007

REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, Sorry for the earlier test...Comcast was bouncing my emails to the list for some reason. That problem seems to have cleared since my test went through. We're scheduled to have a WLUG meeting on Thursday, February 15th, 2007 at 7:00 PM at WPI in the Access Grid Room. We don't have a definite topic, nor do we have anybody who has volunteered to be the speaker. Any takers? After the meeting, we'll head out for pizza at the Tech Pizza restaurant on Highland Street. Come one, come all, see ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF0R5WHl0iXDssISsRAk6PAJ9S5in2mhco530CrcQhvM9PdAFQSACggm2j ejld5TOZECmpNhgr6LC0AaQ= =AqCp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Feb. 13, 2007

Test...please delete.

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF0RcCHl0iXDssISsRAppgAJ4nrZ0JNLs7wKynVpDN2clZJmKT0wCeNMxN R+iL563pO42NONYscmKucCo= =P1t2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Feb. 13, 2007

Re: [Wlug] JOB and PGP

by Chuck Anderson

On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 12:21:58AM -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > This message reminded me that we had a key signing party > a while ago. I have never sent a signed email, because > I am not really worried about someone sending a fake > message from me to wlug. On the other hand, I think > I should know how to do it. I can verify that that > the following is from Andy. Could anyone verify the > author of this message, just so I know that I signed it > correctly? > > -- Guess gpg: Signature made Thu 08 Feb 2007 09:44:20 PM EST using DSA key ID 8822AF38 gpg: Good signature from "Keith Wright (Fridley MN; PhD Pitt 1989) <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com>"

Feb. 9, 2007

Re: [Wlug] JOB and PGP

by Keith Wright

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This message reminded me that we had a key signing party a while ago. I have never sent a signed email, because I am not really worried about someone sending a fake message from me to wlug. On the other hand, I think I should know how to do it. I can verify that that the following is from Andy. Could anyone verify the author of this message, just so I know that I signed it correctly? -- Guess > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: [Wlug] JOB: Avici Systems > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Avici Systems is advertising several Linux programming jobs. If > interested, send me email and I'll send you the PDF file. > > Later, > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFy6h5Hl0iXDssISsRArGMAJ9FWsOYH+tdTX4kbta6ACUeBexRVwCcDIsY > 8BN4XKDgplmSsu+y+WwWG+Q= > =UTGv > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Keith Wright 8822AF38 http://pgp.mit.edu iD8DBQFFy+AE4xVZAIgirzgRAm8UAKCRLgd645vDJQLw9qvlA2BP4XOO5gCgnF0f MzTNniMqKrEZUJIuoZmbiRs= =43Hq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Feb. 9, 2007

JOB: Avici Systems

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Avici Systems is advertising several Linux programming jobs. If interested, send me email and I'll send you the PDF file. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFy6h5Hl0iXDssISsRArGMAJ9FWsOYH+tdTX4kbta6ACUeBexRVwCcDIsY 8BN4XKDgplmSsu+y+WwWG+Q= =UTGv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Feb. 8, 2007

Test - please ignore

by David Glaser

Test - please ignore

Jan. 26, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for future meeting.

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Brian Waite wrote: > Hi all, > I wanted to intorduce myself. I have been on the LUG list now for over a year, > but 2 kids 22 mo and 5 mo old have kept me away from metings. I am by no > means a speaker although I have given a presentation at conferences and a > LUG. I know there is a constant call for topics. I was wondering if anyone > was interested in one of the following 3 topics: > 1) Linux Development on the Nokia 770. > I have had one for a few months now and know quite a bit about it and the > state of affairs. > 2) Hacking NAS storage with the Kurobox (www.kurobox.com) > An very interesting device with a sordid history > 3) VERY tentitive. Developing Robotic applications on Linux for the iRobot > Create. > I should be able to get my hands on one of these along with some example code > and show the capabilities of the iRobot Create > (http://www.irobot.com/create) > > I could also combine 1 and 2 and talk of the general aspects of embedded Linux > development. I have been active in this field for about 6 years now. > > Any takers? > > Thanks > Brian HI Brian, I'd guess from the responses that people are interested in the topics you have suggested. If you are interested in giving this talk at an upcoming WLUG meeting - you're hired! Please let me know which month's meeting would be most convenient for you - all of the upcoming meetings for 2007 are posted on the website. Thanks, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFrVJdHl0iXDssISsRAsJoAJ4q8y6wnHXL0XBMvcacONqyKqG/IQCeKSI3 s8BmJCWOYPbMH4e8D4R+v8U= =jnjE -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 16, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for future meeting.

by Brian Waite

On Tuesday 16 January 2007 14:29, John Stoffel wrote: > Brian> 2) Hacking NAS storage with the Kurobox (www.kurobox.com) An > Brian> very interesting device with a sordid history > > This is an interesting box, but the big limit is the lack of dual (or > more) disks, since if I build a home NAS box, it's going to have RAID > for sure. > Well the nice thing with the Kurobox is the lack of shipped disk and open access to the command line. We have done some really intereseting hacks with this for making things like a web cam enabled motion sensing device that snaps pics on movement. Or silent a media player. > I'm thinking one of those VIA Epia motherboards (1ghz, fan less) with > a pair of big disks mirrored would be a good home NAS box, esp with a > SCSI controller, my DLT tape drive and bacula. The only issue is > Mysql performance on disks like this, since Bacula is heavy on the > DB. Putting in four disks, two RAID1 sets, could work wonders. > I've got one of those also, although the project is far from complete. I'll save that for a later date :) > But gets a bit crazy. :] > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 16, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for future meeting.

by Mike Perry

I can't ever turn down robots. Hacking cellphone is fun too, but that kurobox looks really neat. Bring it on! ~Mike On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 09:15 -0500, Brian Waite wrote: > Hi all, > I wanted to intorduce myself. I have been on the LUG list now for over a year, > but 2 kids 22 mo and 5 mo old have kept me away from metings. I am by no > means a speaker although I have given a presentation at conferences and a > LUG. I know there is a constant call for topics. I was wondering if anyone > was interested in one of the following 3 topics: > 1) Linux Development on the Nokia 770. > I have had one for a few months now and know quite a bit about it and the > state of affairs. > 2) Hacking NAS storage with the Kurobox (www.kurobox.com) > An very interesting device with a sordid history > 3) VERY tentitive. Developing Robotic applications on Linux for the iRobot > Create. > I should be able to get my hands on one of these along with some example code > and show the capabilities of the iRobot Create > (http://www.irobot.com/create) > > I could also combine 1 and 2 and talk of the general aspects of embedded Linux > development. I have been active in this field for about 6 years now. > > Any takers? > > Thanks > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 16, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for future meeting.

by John Stoffel

Brian> 2) Hacking NAS storage with the Kurobox (www.kurobox.com) An Brian> very interesting device with a sordid history This is an interesting box, but the big limit is the lack of dual (or more) disks, since if I build a home NAS box, it's going to have RAID for sure. I'm thinking one of those VIA Epia motherboards (1ghz, fan less) with a pair of big disks mirrored would be a good home NAS box, esp with a SCSI controller, my DLT tape drive and bacula. The only issue is Mysql performance on disks like this, since Bacula is heavy on the DB. Putting in four disks, two RAID1 sets, could work wonders. But gets a bit crazy. :] John

Jan. 16, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for future meeting.

by Keith Wright

> From: Brian Waite <linwoes(a)gmail.com> > > Hi all, > I wanted to intorduce myself. I have been on the LUG list now for > over a year, but 2 kids 22 mo and 5 mo old have kept me away from > metings. Hi, I have been coming to meetings erratically for years. I've been missing a lot, but that is due to personal issues on particular days, not a lack of interest. > I am by no means a speaker although I have given a presentation at > conferences and a LUG. I don't mean to insult past speakers, but don't let them scare you. The bar is not that high. We are not looking for Martin Luther King or Steve Jobs to sell us a dream. If you can stand in front of a dozen people and tell us about what you know without breaking down and leaking, you qualify. > I know there is a constant call for topics. I was wondering if > anyone was interested in one of the following 3 topics: > 1) Linux Development on the Nokia 770. I have had one for a few > months now and know quite a bit about it and the state of affairs. > 2) Hacking NAS storage with the Kurobox (www.kurobox.com) An very > interesting device with a sordid history > 3) VERY tentitive. Developing Robotic applications on Linux for the > iRobot Create. I should be able to get my hands on one of these > along with some example code and show the capabilities of the iRobot > Create (http://www.irobot.com/create) > > I could also combine 1 and 2 and talk of the general aspects of > embedded Linux development. I have been active in this field for > about 6 years now. > > Any takers? Yes. I might even be able to show up. I suggest combining it all in a talk called "Getting off the Pentium" or something like that. You can always follow up with more specifics. Like "Running the Kurobox-770 Cross Compiler". I don't know what a Nokia-770 (a hanbdheld device?), nor what NAS Storage (Network Access, redundant S?), nor iRobot (Apple/Asimov ripoff by LEGO?) is, so I am bound to learn something no matter what you say about them. -- Keith

Jan. 16, 2007

Topic for future meeting.

by Brian Waite

Hi all, I wanted to intorduce myself. I have been on the LUG list now for over a year, but 2 kids 22 mo and 5 mo old have kept me away from metings. I am by no means a speaker although I have given a presentation at conferences and a LUG. I know there is a constant call for topics. I was wondering if anyone was interested in one of the following 3 topics: 1) Linux Development on the Nokia 770. I have had one for a few months now and know quite a bit about it and the state of affairs. 2) Hacking NAS storage with the Kurobox (www.kurobox.com) An very interesting device with a sordid history 3) VERY tentitive. Developing Robotic applications on Linux for the iRobot Create. I should be able to get my hands on one of these along with some example code and show the capabilities of the iRobot Create (http://www.irobot.com/create) I could also combine 1 and 2 and talk of the general aspects of embedded Linux development. I have been active in this field for about 6 years now. Any takers? Thanks Brian

Jan. 16, 2007

FYI: Meeting Announcement

by AlReinhart

FYI: The attached meeting announcement may be of interest to those interested in TV/video and such things as news production, HDTV, film and advanced web-streaming, etc. "A unique opportunity to see some of the most sophisticated editing, effects, animation, compositing and streaming systems on the market." I do not know anything about the group or the meeting, it just sounds like it may be of interest to some WLUG members. ---------------------------------- Al Reinhart Phone: (508) 869-6417 DisCom Systems eMail: Reinhart(a)DisCom.com www.DisCom.com

Jan. 14, 2007

Broadcast Radio Engineer (or facsimilie thereof!)

by Mims Research

Hello all, Not sure if I've made my request on this list or not. Sorry if it's a repeat. Is there someone here who can help a non-profit organization work on a non-commercial full power radio license project? I am on the BOD of a non-profit that is considering an application for such and we could use a bit of help. Replies off list are fine. TIA, Marie email: mimsresearch(a)gmail.com

Jan. 14, 2007

Charcoal grilling with liquid oxygen.

by joel d

At pizza we were talking about other web videos of people doing entertaining and dangerous things. The Mythbusters' disappearing cement truck is hard to top. Here was my favorite example, this guy uses 3 to 5 gallons of liquid oxygen to start your charcoal grill. He does it in shirt sleeves with a 5 gal bucket. Don't try this at home. http://www.doeblitz.net/ghg/ Joel

Jan. 12, 2007

Possible sendmail attack?

by Dick Goodman

I have four servers on 3 different DSL lines running RedHat 7.3 with sendmail 8.11.6 I was on vacation at the time, but mid-day (13:00) on January 9th all of them started behaving wierdly. Instead of the occassional email, perhaps 95% of all incoming emails now show in the log as follows: Jan 9 09:41:17 bach sendmail[25179]: NOQUEUE: mail5.schaeffer.com [24.106.95.27] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA Jan 11 00:02:12 bach sendmail[14018]: NOQUEUE: h11009.upc-h.chello.nl [62.194.11.9] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA Jan 11 00:10:44 bach sendmail[14127]: NOQUEUE: bay0-omc2-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.171] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA Jan 11 00:13:23 bach sendmail[14148]: NOQUEUE: root@localhost did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA Jan 11 00:13:50 bach sendmail[14151]: NOQUEUE: 84.95.106.53.cable.012.net.il [84.95.106.53] did notissue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA The first one is legitimate mail, the others appear to be spam Much of the 50K pieces/month of spam I get are being trapped at the server in this manner before even getting to my spam filters (a good thing), but while some legitimate email is getting through, some is being rejected with this kind of message. Does anyone (a) have any idea what's happening here (b) have any idea how to fix it. Need more info? Just ask. Dick

Jan. 12, 2007

Re: [Wlug] GIMP Question

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

Thanks for the suggestion. For anyone who wants to attempt the same, image magic has an example of doing exactly what I described: http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/graphics/imagick6/compare/ Quoting Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com>: > when anyone asks for help with pictures, i always mention image magic > > http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php > > if the two parts are different enough, i'm sure imagemagick can > seperate them for you. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com" <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:33:38 PM > Subject: [Wlug] GIMP Question > > Any GIMP experts here? Is there a way to extract the differences > between two images? I have an image of just a background and an image > of item on said background. I'd like to get the image of just the > item. It wouldn't be hard to write a program to do it but I figured > gimp might already have it. > > Dennis Payne > dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > >

Jan. 12, 2007

Re: [Wlug] GIMP Question

by Mike Leo

when anyone asks for help with pictures, i always mention image magic http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php if the two parts are different enough, i'm sure imagemagick can seperate them for you. ----- Original Message ---- From: "dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com" <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:33:38 PM Subject: [Wlug] GIMP Question Any GIMP experts here? Is there a way to extract the differences between two images? I have an image of just a background and an image of item on said background. I'd like to get the image of just the item. It wouldn't be hard to write a program to do it but I figured gimp might already have it. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 11, 2007

GIMP Question

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

Any GIMP experts here? Is there a way to extract the differences between two images? I have an image of just a background and an image of item on said background. I'd like to get the image of just the item. It wouldn't be hard to write a program to do it but I figured gimp might already have it. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

Jan. 11, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Thursday

by John Stoffel

Adam> What about a MythTV discussion? I want to create a Linux media Adam> management/playback system and would like to hear others' Adam> experiences. I'd be interested in this, even though I've got a TiVo working very nicely at home right now. But when it dies, I'm going to want to keep the remote going, but move to MythTV. Too bad I can't make this meeting...

Jan. 9, 2007

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting Thurs Jan 11, 2007

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Feel the love! 8-) Let's try again..... :-) Thursday, January 11th, 2007, 7:00 PM Maybe I should go for the machine generated reminder...... Sorry for the confusion, but at least I know that people are reading the email. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFo4zgHl0iXDssISsRAvz2AJ9Nd0w2+LpYrmKKvS4+ksd4IHlS4QCfZ12c c3wb1hmnNxmkVR642unASg0= =4BuH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 9, 2007

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting Thurs Jan 7, 2007

by Stephen C. Daukas

Feel the love! 8-) > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org > [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Keith Wright > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:40 AM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting Thurs Jan 7, 2007 > > > > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > > > This is your monthly reminder (hand generated) regarding > our upcoming > > I don't know what calendar your hand has. According to > EMACS Jan 7, 2007 was last Sunday. (But congratulations > on getting the year right.) > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 9, 2007

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting Thurs Jan 7, 2007

by Keith Wright

> From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > > This is your monthly reminder (hand generated) regarding our upcoming I don't know what calendar your hand has. According to EMACS Jan 7, 2007 was last Sunday. (But congratulations on getting the year right.) -- Keith

Jan. 9, 2007

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting Thurs Jan 7, 2007

by Eric Stein

Andy Stewart wrote: > This is your monthly reminder (hand generated) regarding our upcoming > WLUG meeting, to be held on Thursday, January 7th, 2007, at 7:00 PM in > the Access Grid Room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. > Isn't Thursday the 11th? Eric

Jan. 9, 2007

REMINDER: Upcoming Meeting Thurs Jan 7, 2007

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI Everybody, This is your monthly reminder (hand generated) regarding our upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Thursday, January 7th, 2007, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid Room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. Many of you have suggested some good topics in our recent email threads. I propose that this meeting be a round table discussion of those and any other topics of interest. I'll bring my new laptop for discussion as well. It is a Linux Certified LC2464T running Kubuntu. However, I hope somebody has a DVI-SVGA adapter which I can borrow for the meeting, since I don't yet have one. Since this is my first experience with a Debian type of distribution, I could offer my first impressions. More info here: http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lc2464t.html If the discussion runs dry, ask me if I passed my Amateur Radio technician exam (which I'm taking on Wednesday). I'm curious to see what I can do with this and Linux. I can also give an update on the kernel device driver that I'm writing for the Delcom USB I/O demo board. I am planning to do a full presentation on this sometime soon, after I get more stuff working. A couple of simple features are working right now. Perhaps I'll do this for either the February or March meeting. More info here: http://www.delcom-eng.com/productdetails.asp?productnum=802004 As always, we'll adjourn to the Tech Pizza Restaurant on Highland Street for some discussion afterwards. All are welcome to attend! See ya later, and Happy New Year! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFowvsHl0iXDssISsRArxgAJoCdu40R3NGK/cVkRPAomzSSZJcCQCfZ7Sx JYMDiYEQjmETv2GfHbbbDqY= =iIYN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 9, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic idea for future meeting

by Mike Leo

Yup....and I know Andy is as well.. I love talking about VMWare so i don't mind at all. ----- Original Message ---- From: Doug Chamberlin <dougchamberlin(a)earthlink.net> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2007 4:01:46 PM Subject: [Wlug] Topic idea for future meeting Anyone using VMWare Workstation hosted on Linux? I'd be interested in an installation how-to with tips and tricks. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 7, 2007

Topic idea for future meeting

by Doug Chamberlin

Anyone using VMWare Workstation hosted on Linux? I'd be interested in an installation how-to with tips and tricks.

Jan. 7, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Thursday

by Mike

I've been interesting in setting up a MythTV box as well. ~Mike <quote who="Adam Keck"> > Hello All, > > What about a MythTV discussion? I want to create a Linux media > management/playback system and would like to hear others' experiences. > > -Adam > > On 1/4/07, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Mike Perry wrote: >> > So what's the topic? >> > >> > ~Mike >> >> HI Mike, >> >> There isn't one....yet. One person asked me if we could discuss the >> basics of setting up a network. I'm not sure what else folks would like >> to discuss, or more importantly, who wants to lead the discussion. >> >> I'm open to anything - you folks let me know. :-) >> >> Later, >> >> Andy >> >> - -- >> Andy Stewart, Founder >> Worcester Linux Users' Group >> Worcester, MA, USA >> http://www.wlug.org >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iD8DBQFFnYzBHl0iXDssISsRAugkAJ4oqIb0K5TXwRzWbTpvkZFkyNoptwCeMWqV >> OPNxcijZoQP8z7eKDrz/OVs= >> =DqBf >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > -- > -Adam > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security --Ben Franklin

Jan. 7, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for nextThursday

by Chuck Anderson

On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 04:06:52PM -0500, Ken Jones wrote: > How about RedHat Linux vs RedHat Fedora Core Linux. There is no RedHat Linux anymore (unless you mean the old Red Hat 9, 7.3, etc.), only Red Hat Enterprise Linux. > Is it possible to run a professional installation based on Fedora Core? Must one be a REAL pro? The software is basically the same, but the product goals are different. You can run any kind of installation on either, but you won't get finger-pointing support and a long lifetime from Fedora which means you'll need to upgrade the OS every year or so to keep on top of security issues and bugs that are fixed, unless you want to fix things yourself. RHEL gives you 5 or more years of support. I can give a brief update on the current events in Fedora-land if anyone is interested. There are lots of interesting things happening right now, like the merger of Core and Extras, and the opening up of Core to all Fedora contributors.

Jan. 5, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for nextThursday

by Frank Sweetser

On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 04:06:52PM -0500, Ken Jones wrote: > How about RedHat Linux vs RedHat Fedora Core Linux. > > Is it possible to run a professional installation based on Fedora Core? Must > one be a REAL pro? That depends. What do you define as a "professional installation"? -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Jan. 5, 2007

Topic for nextThursday

by Ken Jones

How about RedHat Linux vs RedHat Fedora Core Linux. Is it possible to run a professional installation based on Fedora Core? Must one be a REAL pro? Ken Jones

Jan. 5, 2007

Amateur radio exam session at WPI on January 18

by Chuck Anderson

At last WLUG I believe we talked about amateur radio, so perhaps this interests some of you. ----- Forwarded message from Gil Hayes <wk1h(a)charter.net> ----- From: "Gil Hayes" <wk1h(a)charter.net> To: "'Gil Hayes'" <wk1h(a)charter.net> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 00:03:52 -0500 Subject: Amateur radio exam session at WPI on January 18 Hi all, The Worcester Area VE Team will be holding an amateur radio test session for all license classes: Date: Thursday, January 18, 2007 Time: 6:30 PM Place: Salisbury Labs, Room 123, Worcester Polytechnic Institute Please bring: 1. AN ORIGINAL AND A PHOTOCOPY of your current license and any CSCE's or other paperwork you are submitting 2. A basic calculator 3. Two forms of state acceptable ID (one must be a picture ID) 4. $14 exam fee (if check, payable to "ARRL VEC") 5. Pen or pencil The photocopies of your paperwork are very important as we must submit a copy of your records to the ARRL VEC if you are successful. Walk-ins are always accepted but pre-registration is preferred. To preregister email John at n2yhk(a)wpi.edu and/or Gil at wk1h(a)charter.net. Any questions about the session may also be directed to these emails. We will try to provide a talk-in on the 145.310 W1WPI repeater. It is recommended that if you are not familiar with the WPI campus that you print out and bring with you the campus map at http://www.wpi.edu/About/Visitors/Images/walkingmap.pdf. Thanks, Gil Note - To be removed from this mail list or have your email changed, please reply to this email. ----- End forwarded message -----

Jan. 5, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Thursday

by Eric Stein

Hi again, I think a discussion of how to set up firewall, router, and QoS on a Linux box would be very useful. Using Smoothwall is easy and all, but real understanding is of course better. I'm not qualified to talk about it... but someone else is, I'm sure. Eric Andy Stewart wrote: > Mike Perry wrote: > >> So what's the topic? >> >> ~Mike >> > > HI Mike, > > There isn't one....yet. One person asked me if we could discuss the > basics of setting up a network. I'm not sure what else folks would like > to discuss, or more importantly, who wants to lead the discussion. > > I'm open to anything - you folks let me know. :-) > > Later, > > Andy

Jan. 5, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Thursday

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Adam Keck wrote: > Hello All, > > What about a MythTV discussion? I want to create a Linux media > management/playback system and would like to hear others' experiences. > > -Adam I have a MythTV setup. It has been quite a while since I set it up originally, since it "just works" now. If others are agreeable, that would be a good topic. Another possible idea: Has anybody used Ampache? http://www.ampache.org/ Does somebody want to do a presentation, or will this be a "round table" discussion? Later, Andy > > On 1/4/07, * Andy Stewart* <andystewart(a)comcast.net > <mailto:andystewart@comcast.net>> wrote: > > Mike Perry wrote: >> So what's the topic? > >> ~Mike > > HI Mike, > > There isn't one....yet. One person asked me if we could discuss the > basics of setting up a network. I'm not sure what else folks would like > to discuss, or more importantly, who wants to lead the discussion. > > I'm open to anything - you folks let me know. :-) > > Later, > > Andy > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org <mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- > -Adam > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFnZjnHl0iXDssISsRAmrRAJ99UX99yNfOgIzaJcOSAt93CJZ4FACeLh9c WjYZ8/EYMi4irJlUYFrQkU4= =5r9L -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 5, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Thursday

by Adam Keck

Hello All, What about a MythTV discussion? I want to create a Linux media management/playback system and would like to hear others' experiences. -Adam On 1/4/07, Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mike Perry wrote: > > So what's the topic? > > > > ~Mike > > HI Mike, > > There isn't one....yet. One person asked me if we could discuss the > basics of setting up a network. I'm not sure what else folks would like > to discuss, or more importantly, who wants to lead the discussion. > > I'm open to anything - you folks let me know. :-) > > Later, > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFFnYzBHl0iXDssISsRAugkAJ4oqIb0K5TXwRzWbTpvkZFkyNoptwCeMWqV > OPNxcijZoQP8z7eKDrz/OVs= > =DqBf > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -Adam

Jan. 4, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Topic for next Thursday

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Perry wrote: > So what's the topic? > > ~Mike HI Mike, There isn't one....yet. One person asked me if we could discuss the basics of setting up a network. I'm not sure what else folks would like to discuss, or more importantly, who wants to lead the discussion. I'm open to anything - you folks let me know. :-) Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFnYzBHl0iXDssISsRAugkAJ4oqIb0K5TXwRzWbTpvkZFkyNoptwCeMWqV OPNxcijZoQP8z7eKDrz/OVs= =DqBf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Jan. 4, 2007

Topic for next Thursday

by Mike Perry

So what's the topic? ~Mike

Jan. 4, 2007

Re: [Wlug] APT install question

by Andre Lehovich

--- Gregory Avedissian <gma2006(a)verizon.net> wrote: > sudo apt-cache search <keyword> No need for the sudo, apt-cache only reads the database, so it doesn't need to be root. --Andre __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Jan. 2, 2007

Re: [Wlug] APT install question

by Andre Lehovich

--- Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > 1) I have modified my /etc/apt/sources.list - it is not the standard one > from Kubuntu. Most of what I wanted to install couldn't be found with > the standard list, so I updated it with some automated website I found > via google. What's missing? Kubuntu should have almost everything other than a few non-free codecs. > 3) I googled for "cpufrequtils debian" and found version 002-2 of the > package, which I manually downloaded and installed. It noticed the > missing /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils file and it asked me if I wanted to > install a new one. I did, and now all seems to be fixed. For future reference, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cpufrequtils Note that mixing and matching packages from Debian and Ubuntu won't always work. --Andre __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Jan. 2, 2007

Re: [Wlug] APT install question

by Aaron Haviland

Andy Stewart wrote, on Dec 30, 2006 at 12:30 EST: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mike Perry wrote: > > Hmmm weird. I just tried to install cpufrequtils on my box and I didn't > > run into that problem. Sounds like a fluke to me. Try deleting the > > package from the cache '/var/cache/apt/archives' and reinstalling as > > Aaron detailed. > > HI guys, > > Thanks for the helpful suggestions. > > 1) I have modified my /etc/apt/sources.list - it is not the standard one > from Kubuntu. Most of what I wanted to install couldn't be found with > the standard list, so I updated it with some automated website I found > via google. It might be worth it to track down which archive the package is being downloaded from... you won't know where to send a bug report to otherwise! > 2) I deleted the package from the /var/cache/apt/archives directory and > attempted a reinstall after I ran apt-get update. Version 002-1 was > downloaded and the problem recurred. > > 3) I googled for "cpufrequtils debian" and found version 002-2 of the > package, which I manually downloaded and installed. It noticed the > missing /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils file and it asked me if I wanted to > install a new one. I did, and now all seems to be fixed. > > 4) When I apt-get remove the cpufrequtils package, it does not delete > the /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils file - this is strange - I expected it to > delete any/all files related to the package. This is true in both > versions of the package. dpkg allows for various states of package removal. Just removing the package will not touch conffiles (or is it config files? There's a distinction between the two terms). If you "apt-get remove --purge $PACKAGE" the package it will delete those as well. If you've already removed it, you must run "dpkg --purge $PACKAGE" to purge the conffiles (or is it config files?) as APT will complain that the package is already removed. -- Aaron Haviland cell: [617] 947 - 3629

Dec. 30, 2006

Re: [Wlug] APT install question

by Gregory Avedissian

Andy Stewart wrote: > > I prefer KDE over Gnome and that's why I'm giving Kubuntu a test drive. > I prefer KDE over Gnome, too, and what I've done with 'buntu is install the basic Ubuntu, and then add kde through apt-get. I seem to recall that doing it this way is one of the ways to enable the root account. (I could be wrong on that - it's been awhile.) > > I have used the smart package manager on SuSE (when the badly broke YaST > on OpenSuSE 10.1). I like it but didn't know the package name for > *Ubuntu. I have been using the Adept package manager, but I"ll install > Smart and give it a try. > To find package names: sudo apt-cache search <keyword> Have fun! Greg

Dec. 30, 2006

Re: [Wlug] APT install question

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mike Perry wrote: > Hmmm weird. I just tried to install cpufrequtils on my box and I didn't > run into that problem. Sounds like a fluke to me. Try deleting the > package from the cache '/var/cache/apt/archives' and reinstalling as > Aaron detailed. HI guys, Thanks for the helpful suggestions. 1) I have modified my /etc/apt/sources.list - it is not the standard one from Kubuntu. Most of what I wanted to install couldn't be found with the standard list, so I updated it with some automated website I found via google. 2) I deleted the package from the /var/cache/apt/archives directory and attempted a reinstall after I ran apt-get update. Version 002-1 was downloaded and the problem recurred. 3) I googled for "cpufrequtils debian" and found version 002-2 of the package, which I manually downloaded and installed. It noticed the missing /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils file and it asked me if I wanted to install a new one. I did, and now all seems to be fixed. 4) When I apt-get remove the cpufrequtils package, it does not delete the /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils file - this is strange - I expected it to delete any/all files related to the package. This is true in both versions of the package. > > I ran Kubuntu for a bit and switched back to Ubuntu as I find the > integration is much better. But under the hood they should be the same > system. When I was running Kubuntu I did find that it already had a > cpufreq tool built into its power management. cpufrequtils is in > universe and would be an add on. I prefer KDE over Gnome and that's why I'm giving Kubuntu a test drive. I've gotten very used to the GUI based sysadmin tools as supplied by SuSE (which I've used for many years). I'm looking for equivalents in *Ubuntu for such things like SCPM (profile management). > > I know Ubuntu's Gnome package manager, Synaptic, has a "fix broken > packages" option which may also fix this problem. Perhaps Adapt has > something similar. > > *Ubuntu also has smart if you are familiar with that. > sudo apt-get install smart-pm I have used the smart package manager on SuSE (when the badly broke YaST on OpenSuSE 10.1). I like it but didn't know the package name for *Ubuntu. I have been using the Adept package manager, but I"ll install Smart and give it a try. Thanks again for the help! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFlqI+Hl0iXDssISsRAplYAJ9LF33lyx8RHqLuqCwwHA8aOKlBUACffrL0 l56gjny+kycTVCJ5w8oBMqY= =8365 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 30, 2006

Re: [Wlug] APT install question

by Mike Perry

Hmmm weird. I just tried to install cpufrequtils on my box and I didn't run into that problem. Sounds like a fluke to me. Try deleting the package from the cache '/var/cache/apt/archives' and reinstalling as Aaron detailed. I ran Kubuntu for a bit and switched back to Ubuntu as I find the integration is much better. But under the hood they should be the same system. When I was running Kubuntu I did find that it already had a cpufreq tool built into its power management. cpufrequtils is in universe and would be an add on. I know Ubuntu's Gnome package manager, Synaptic, has a "fix broken packages" option which may also fix this problem. Perhaps Adapt has something similar. *Ubuntu also has smart if you are familiar with that. sudo apt-get install smart-pm ~Mike > On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 07:11 -0500, Aaron Haviland wrote: > > Andy Stewart wrote, on Dec 29, 2006 at 21:49 EST: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > > HI gang, > > > > > > I'm taking my first adventurous steps in the use of a Debian based > > > system (Kubuntu) on my new laptop (LC2464T). (No, I'm not trashing Suse > > > on all of my other systems). I've never previously used an APT based > > > system, so in this sense, I'm quite the newbie. > > > > I wouldn't suggest *Ubuntu as a canonical APT-based distro. There are > > still bugs there but the eye candy is better. > > > > > I'm getting an error when I install a package, and I'm not sure how to > > > resolve it. I've googled to no avail. Note in the output below that it > > > says that the file /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils does not exist, and yet (I > > > think) this is a file that belongs to the package which I'm trying to > > > install. > > > > Indeed it should be part of the package you're trying to install. Could > > you verify that the files does exist? By this point in the installation, > > the package is fully extracted, just not configured. > > > > > > A quick & dirty version of the dpkg installation procedure (APT is a front-end to dpkg/wget/etc) is: > > > > 1) Extract control information from the package. (You can find this > > stuff in /var/lib/dpkg/info/${PACKAGE}.* > > > > 2) Execute pre-install script, if it exists > > > > 3) Extract package. > > > > 4) Run post-install script, if it exists. (I think almost all packages > > have one) > > > > 5) ... > > > > 6) Profit! > > > > > > <snipped ...> > > > > > Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe cpufrequtils 002-1 [22.4kB] > > > Fetched 32.7kB in 1s (31.8kB/s) > > > > > Selecting previously deselected package cpufrequtils. > > > > 1, 2 > > > > 3 > > > > > Unpacking cpufrequtils (from .../cpufrequtils_002-1_amd64.deb) ... > > > > 4 > > > > > Setting up cpufrequtils (002-1) ... > > > update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils: file does not exist > > > dpkg: error processing cpufrequtils (--configure): > > > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > > > Errors were encountered while processing: > > > cpufrequtils > > > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > ========== > > > > So at this point, the package should be completely extracted, but the > > postinstall is not processing correctly... the command it's trying to > > execute would be: "update-rc.d cpufrequtils defaults" to add the default > > init rc symlinks... > > > > It might be a bug in the package. It might be a fluke. Usually, try > > re-installing it (as you won't be able to do much else until you get it > > resolved, anyway...) > > > > apt-get install --reinstall cpufrequtils > > > > > > If not... good luck figuring out ubuntu's bug system. Debian's is quite > > nice, but if you've got a ubuntu bug, you *have* to use ubuntu's BTS > > instead. (And it appears there are no current bugs filed for ubuntu's > > cpufrequtils. Interestingly enough, Debian's BTS lists several bugs > > against the package, but none seemingly related to your problem.) > > > > > > > > Hmmm... also, how long ago did this happen? Ubuntu doesn't seem to have > > 002-1 in its archives anymore. The current version is 002-2. > > > > I don't know if you're using a front-end to APT, or taking it plain, but > > you might need to run "apt-get update" to refresh the package lists. > > > > > > That was a bit longer than I meant it to be... good luck! > > > > Alternatively, Some friends of mine in #linuxhelp on OFTC are usually > > around to help. I'm in there as 'guinea-pig' > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 30, 2006

Re: [Wlug] APT install question

by Aaron Haviland

Andy Stewart wrote, on Dec 29, 2006 at 21:49 EST: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI gang, > > I'm taking my first adventurous steps in the use of a Debian based > system (Kubuntu) on my new laptop (LC2464T). (No, I'm not trashing Suse > on all of my other systems). I've never previously used an APT based > system, so in this sense, I'm quite the newbie. I wouldn't suggest *Ubuntu as a canonical APT-based distro. There are still bugs there but the eye candy is better. > I'm getting an error when I install a package, and I'm not sure how to > resolve it. I've googled to no avail. Note in the output below that it > says that the file /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils does not exist, and yet (I > think) this is a file that belongs to the package which I'm trying to > install. Indeed it should be part of the package you're trying to install. Could you verify that the files does exist? By this point in the installation, the package is fully extracted, just not configured. A quick & dirty version of the dpkg installation procedure (APT is a front-end to dpkg/wget/etc) is: 1) Extract control information from the package. (You can find this stuff in /var/lib/dpkg/info/${PACKAGE}.* 2) Execute pre-install script, if it exists 3) Extract package. 4) Run post-install script, if it exists. (I think almost all packages have one) 5) ... 6) Profit! <snipped ...> > Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe cpufrequtils 002-1 [22.4kB] > Fetched 32.7kB in 1s (31.8kB/s) > Selecting previously deselected package cpufrequtils. 1, 2 3 > Unpacking cpufrequtils (from .../cpufrequtils_002-1_amd64.deb) ... 4 > Setting up cpufrequtils (002-1) ... > update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils: file does not exist > dpkg: error processing cpufrequtils (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > Errors were encountered while processing: > cpufrequtils > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > ========== So at this point, the package should be completely extracted, but the postinstall is not processing correctly... the command it's trying to execute would be: "update-rc.d cpufrequtils defaults" to add the default init rc symlinks... It might be a bug in the package. It might be a fluke. Usually, try re-installing it (as you won't be able to do much else until you get it resolved, anyway...) apt-get install --reinstall cpufrequtils If not... good luck figuring out ubuntu's bug system. Debian's is quite nice, but if you've got a ubuntu bug, you *have* to use ubuntu's BTS instead. (And it appears there are no current bugs filed for ubuntu's cpufrequtils. Interestingly enough, Debian's BTS lists several bugs against the package, but none seemingly related to your problem.) Hmmm... also, how long ago did this happen? Ubuntu doesn't seem to have 002-1 in its archives anymore. The current version is 002-2. I don't know if you're using a front-end to APT, or taking it plain, but you might need to run "apt-get update" to refresh the package lists. That was a bit longer than I meant it to be... good luck! Alternatively, Some friends of mine in #linuxhelp on OFTC are usually around to help. I'm in there as 'guinea-pig' -- Aaron Haviland

Dec. 30, 2006

APT install question

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, I'm taking my first adventurous steps in the use of a Debian based system (Kubuntu) on my new laptop (LC2464T). (No, I'm not trashing Suse on all of my other systems). I've never previously used an APT based system, so in this sense, I'm quite the newbie. I'm getting an error when I install a package, and I'm not sure how to resolve it. I've googled to no avail. Note in the output below that it says that the file /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils does not exist, and yet (I think) this is a file that belongs to the package which I'm trying to install. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated - thanks! Here's the command and its output from Kubuntu 6.10. ========== # apt-get install cpufrequtils Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libcpufreq0 The following NEW packages will be installed: cpufrequtils libcpufreq0 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 32.7kB of archives. After unpacking 254kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe libcpufreq0 002-1 [10.3kB] Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe cpufrequtils 002-1 [22.4kB] Fetched 32.7kB in 1s (31.8kB/s) Selecting previously deselected package libcpufreq0. (Reading database ... 88398 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libcpufreq0 (from .../libcpufreq0_002-1_amd64.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package cpufrequtils. Unpacking cpufrequtils (from .../cpufrequtils_002-1_amd64.deb) ... Setting up libcpufreq0 (002-1) ... Setting up cpufrequtils (002-1) ... update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils: file does not exist dpkg: error processing cpufrequtils (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: cpufrequtils E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) ========== - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFldO9Hl0iXDssISsRAq1gAJ46+gxWgO9YomxhdJsp0i02GG30XgCfTll1 k584/OlsBqwCFII50BVox90= =VxI2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 30, 2006

Test...please ignore

by Andy Stewart

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Dec. 30, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Can't find files filling up disk

by Michael Zarozinski

Thank you! It was some daemons that didn't shut down properly! Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 12:27:33PM -0500, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > >> I'm getting warnings that one of my drives is 90% full but I can't find >> the files filling it up. >> >> /dev/hda3 4.9G 4.2G 512M 90% /var <<<<<<< >> >> But running "du -sh *" from / shows /var as only having 322M (full >> output is below). >> >> Any hints on where I can find the files filling up /dev/hda3??? >> > > Aha! I actually ask this exact question during interviews. :) > > There could be several reasons, but a common reason is daemons which are still > writing to log files which were deleted. Do something like "lsof | grep > deleted" and see what's being used. For instance, on my system: > > python 2323 mailman 3u REG 8,2 0 > 75931863 /var/log/mailman/error.5 (deleted) > > So it appears that there was some issue when log rotating where the mailman > proc didn't close the old file, so while it doesn't exist in the directory any > longer (and therefore won't count via du) it still exists in the filesystem > and takes up space (in this case, 0 bytes, but ...) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 26, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Can't find files filling up disk

by Theo Van Dinter

On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 12:27:33PM -0500, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > I'm getting warnings that one of my drives is 90% full but I can't find > the files filling it up. > > /dev/hda3 4.9G 4.2G 512M 90% /var <<<<<<< > > But running "du -sh *" from / shows /var as only having 322M (full > output is below). > > Any hints on where I can find the files filling up /dev/hda3??? Aha! I actually ask this exact question during interviews. :) There could be several reasons, but a common reason is daemons which are still writing to log files which were deleted. Do something like "lsof | grep deleted" and see what's being used. For instance, on my system: python 2323 mailman 3u REG 8,2 0 75931863 /var/log/mailman/error.5 (deleted) So it appears that there was some issue when log rotating where the mailman proc didn't close the old file, so while it doesn't exist in the directory any longer (and therefore won't count via du) it still exists in the filesystem and takes up space (in this case, 0 bytes, but ...) -- randomly Selected Tagline: "I didn't have Scotch Tape for many years, but I sure as hell use it now." - Larry Young, 2002/06/16, discussion about not having email

Dec. 26, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Can't find files filling up disk

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 12:27:33PM -0500, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > /dev/hda3 4.9G 4.2G 512M 90% /var <<<<<<< > root@games [/]# du -sh * > 322M var I would go to single user mode, unmount /var, and run a filesystem check on it. /sbin/telinit 1 umount /var /sbin/fsck -f /dev/hda3 You can also check for what is using the space on /var. I use du -sk so that I can sort the result in kilobytes: df -h /var df -hi /var du -sk /var/* | sort -n The last one won't catch files that begin with a ., so check for large dot files: ls -la /var du -sk /var/.[!.]* | sort -n

Dec. 26, 2006

Can't find files filling up disk

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi all, I'm getting warnings that one of my drives is 90% full but I can't find the files filling it up. Running "df -ha" shows: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 2.0G 789M 1.1G 42% / none 0 0 0 - /proc none 0 0 0 - /sys none 0 0 0 - /dev/pts usbfs 0 0 0 - /proc/bus/usb none 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda7 58G 1.9G 53G 4% /home /dev/hda6 2.0G 36M 1.9G 2% /tmp /dev/hda2 4.9G 2.6G 2.2G 55% /usr /dev/hda3 4.9G 4.2G 512M 90% /var <<<<<<< Problem disk none 0 0 0 - /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc sunrpc 0 0 0 - /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs But running "du -sh *" from / shows /var as only having 322M (full output is below). Any hints on where I can find the files filling up /dev/hda3??? Thanks, Michael root@games [/]# du -sh * 8.0K aquota.user 6.4M bin 11M boot 168K dev 12K du_var 20M etc 8.0K hardware_status.html?mac=00:0C:F1:D7:9B:4B&action=update&status=RH_POST_KICKSTART &hk=cf36ac8c346755f3d318bbd694a168c7799c74de 1.7G home 8.0K initrd 129M lib 16K lost+found 16K media 8.0K misc 8.0K mnt 8.0K opt 0 pico 902M proc 8.0K quota.user 580M root 16M sbin 4.0M scripts 8.0K selinux 8.0K srv 0 sys 72K tftpboot 48K tmp 2.7G usr 322M var

Dec. 26, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by Keith Wright

> From: Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> > > On Sunday 24 December 2006 19:32, Keith Wright wrote: > > > From: Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> > > > > > > if gcc is randomly ICEing, > > > > What's that then? ICE seems to be an acronym > > it's a gcc term: Internal Compiler Error Thank you, though this is a bit disapointing. I was hoping it meant Inexplicable Computer Error, or something else more general purpose. > > This could be your chance to get your entry > > in the jargon file, and if it becomes the > > next big catch-phrase you might even bargain > > to exchange the IP for some free advice. > > the thing run by esr ? yeah i could care less :p I'm guessing you couldn't care very much less without going negative. I was about to object that the jargon file is older than ESR, but that's not strictly true. In any case, he does run it, by the "You touch it, you own it" Hacker rule of IP. (Which is very different from the Lawyer's rule. They never have to Fix the Damned Thing.) Just for that, no free advice for you. -- Keith

Dec. 25, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by Mike Frysinger

On Sunday 24 December 2006 19:32, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> > > > > if gcc is randomly ICEing, > > What's that then? ICE seems to be an acronym it's a gcc term: Internal Compiler Error > This could be your chance to get your entry > in the jargon file, and if it becomes the > next big catch-phrase you might even bargain > to exchange the IP for some free advice. the thing run by esr ? yeah i could care less :p -mike

Dec. 25, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by Keith Wright

> From: Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> > > if gcc is randomly ICEing, What's that then? ICE seems to be an acronym, but for what? The jargon file (Hacker's Dictionary) tells me what I already knew, that ICE means Intrusion Counter-measure Electronics in some fiction I read long ago, but this doesn't seem to have anything to do with your usage. Further search reveals some kind of graphic hardware or company called ICE, but the PCI graphic card is in a different thread. So what is ICE? This could be your chance to get your entry in the jargon file, and if it becomes the next big catch-phrase you might even bargain to exchange the IP for some free advice. -- Keith

Dec. 25, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com

i'll give it a shot, thanks. -Eric -----Original Message----- From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Subj: Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc Date: Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:36 am Size: 1K To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Eric Martin wrote: > My laptop has been doing weird stuff lately. I built it a while ago > from Gentoo 2006.0 Stage 3, and every now and again it would turn off > while compiling something (usually if I had to upgrade glibc). I was > just trying to update mythtv and it crashed so I decided to level it > and start from scratch. I installed Gentoo 2006.1 Stage 3 and it's > doing the same thing. I went down to Stage 2 and I'm still having a > problem. I've done memtest in the past with clean results, but I'm > stuck because I don't know what the error is. While building a few > minutes ago I forgot to turn on swap space and it ran out of memory > before crashing (turning off). > > Is there anything I can do aside from piping the output to a file to > capture what the problem might be (tried it, not much help)? Has > anybody had similar problems with gcc / glibc? > > Thanks in advance > Eric My laptop will turn it self off if the temperature gets above 70C. Most laptops have some kind of temperature shut off function.. I would monitor your temperature with lmsensors, or mbmon (acpi temp zone). For me to control my Gentoo laptop temperature while compiling big packages, I have to have cpu frequency scaling running. If i run my 2.8ghz P4 laptop at 50% speed 1.4Ghz I don't have any temperature problems. I usually use the "powersave" or "ondemand" shedulers. Also you could try keeping a big enough space blow your laptop for air.. Assuming the temperature is the problem. -- -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/ US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk= karl.hiramoto [at] gmail [d0t] com -- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov

Dec. 24, 2006

looking for a PCI graphics card

by Bill Mills-Curran

Thanks to all who found/offered a PCI graphics card. My problem has been solved, even though it hasn't been really understood. A friend found a card of unknown condition, and I tried it. As expected, the motherboard graphics became inactive when I booted with the PCI card. However, the PCI card didn't work either. (It's that "unknown condition" thing, I think.) After a couple of power cycles, I removed the PCI card, and, magically, the motherboard graphics began to work. I don't see anything new in the X config, so I can only think that the system reset the motherboard graphics card back to a functional state. If anyone has a better theory, I'd like to hear it. Thanks to all who responded with an offer of a graphics card. Thanks, Bill

Dec. 24, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by Karl Hiramoto

Eric Martin wrote: > My laptop has been doing weird stuff lately. I built it a while ago > from Gentoo 2006.0 Stage 3, and every now and again it would turn off > while compiling something (usually if I had to upgrade glibc). I was > just trying to update mythtv and it crashed so I decided to level it > and start from scratch. I installed Gentoo 2006.1 Stage 3 and it's > doing the same thing. I went down to Stage 2 and I'm still having a > problem. I've done memtest in the past with clean results, but I'm > stuck because I don't know what the error is. While building a few > minutes ago I forgot to turn on swap space and it ran out of memory > before crashing (turning off). > > Is there anything I can do aside from piping the output to a file to > capture what the problem might be (tried it, not much help)? Has > anybody had similar problems with gcc / glibc? > > Thanks in advance > Eric My laptop will turn it self off if the temperature gets above 70C. Most laptops have some kind of temperature shut off function.. I would monitor your temperature with lmsensors, or mbmon (acpi temp zone). For me to control my Gentoo laptop temperature while compiling big packages, I have to have cpu frequency scaling running. If i run my 2.8ghz P4 laptop at 50% speed 1.4Ghz I don't have any temperature problems. I usually use the "powersave" or "ondemand" shedulers. Also you could try keeping a big enough space blow your laptop for air.. Assuming the temperature is the problem. -- -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/ US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk= karl.hiramoto [at] gmail [d0t] com -- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov

Dec. 24, 2006

Re: [Wlug] taking a hack at /etc/group

by Mike Frysinger

On Saturday 23 December 2006 22:58, d.maly(a)ieee.org wrote: > Anyway, let me ask you this: would you direct me to a few more places > that would obviously carry the 'residue' of wrong group members, if > any? off the top of my head, i cant think of anything > I was considering forcing ownership to 'me' because normally 'me' does > not have root access to the files ... may be specific to Ubuntu ... nah, not Ubuntu specific ... but running like: chown -R me:users /home/me should certainly be safe -mike

Dec. 24, 2006

Re: [Wlug] taking a hack at /etc/group

by Mike Frysinger

On Saturday 23 December 2006 19:38, d.maly(a)ieee.org wrote: > The fix is to add 'me' to the audio line in /etc/group: correct > So here's the question: should I add 'me' to all such lines? sounds like you should > Seems too crude ... and there must be some file > "upstream" that would lead to 'me' being left off in the first place ?? i dont use ubuntu myself, but i imagine that whatever utility you use to add yourself to the proper groups, they'd all be frontends to editing /etc/group anyways as for not being in the groups in the first place, that would be traced back to how your user was created in the first place -mike

Dec. 24, 2006

taking a hack at /etc/group

by d.maly＠ieee.org

I stumbled across bug #48545 (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/48545) when sound wouldn't work only for the "primary" user ('me') ... it *did* work for the other users on this computer, including others with access to root. The fix is to add 'me' to the audio line in /etc/group: audio:x:29:user1,user2,user3,me In the meantime, I noticed there were several lines in this file which included all users except 'me'. So here's the question: should I add 'me' to all such lines? Seems too crude ... and there must be some file "upstream" that would lead to 'me' being left off in the first place ?? Thanks, Doug

Dec. 24, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by Mike Frysinger

On Saturday 23 December 2006 19:08, Eric Martin wrote: > Is there anything I can do aside from piping the output to a file to > capture what the problem might be (tried it, not much help)? it depends on the error if gcc is randomly ICEing, then it can commonly be caused by: - not enough physical ram - flaky hardware - flaky ram - cpu overheating the exact error message would point in the direction -mike

Dec. 24, 2006

Problem w/gcc

by Eric Martin

My laptop has been doing weird stuff lately. I built it a while ago from Gentoo 2006.0 Stage 3, and every now and again it would turn off while compiling something (usually if I had to upgrade glibc). I was just trying to update mythtv and it crashed so I decided to level it and start from scratch. I installed Gentoo 2006.1 Stage 3 and it's doing the same thing. I went down to Stage 2 and I'm still having a problem. I've done memtest in the past with clean results, but I'm stuck because I don't know what the error is. While building a few minutes ago I forgot to turn on swap space and it ran out of memory before crashing (turning off). Is there anything I can do aside from piping the output to a file to capture what the problem might be (tried it, not much help)? Has anybody had similar problems with gcc / glibc? Thanks in advance Eric

Dec. 24, 2006

Re: [Wlug] looking for a PCI graphics card

by Mike Frysinger

On Wednesday 20 December 2006 14:48, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday 20 December 2006 14:26, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > I'm looking for a cheap PCI graphics card to see if that fixes the > > problem. Even a loaner would help. > > i probably have one i can part with ... some S3 virge or something yeah, i def have an extra one you can have -mike

Dec. 20, 2006

Re: [Wlug] looking for a PCI graphics card

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 03:05:08PM -0500, Gary Hanley wrote: > Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:05:08 -0500 (EST) > From: Gary Hanley <gary(a)hanley.net> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] looking for a PCI graphics card > Precedence: list > Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > The graphics (motherboard) on my linux box have stoped... I still > > have an ascii screen, but no graphics. (No errors in any logs, so I > > suspect a hardware failure.) > > I'm looking for a cheap PCI graphics card to see if that fixes the > > problem. Even a loaner would help. > > If you can't find a card, how about booting from a Gentoo or > Fedora CD with a GUI install interface to see what that returns? > > -- Gary Gary, Great idea. BTW, I don't get the graphics screen during the boot, either. I _did_ get it once or twice, then intermittently, then not at all, so I really suspect the video driver hardware. Bill

Dec. 20, 2006

Re: [Wlug] looking for a PCI graphics card

by Gary Hanley

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > The graphics (motherboard) on my linux box have stoped... I still > have an ascii screen, but no graphics. (No errors in any logs, so I > suspect a hardware failure.) > I'm looking for a cheap PCI graphics card to see if that fixes the > problem. Even a loaner would help. If you can't find a card, how about booting from a Gentoo or Fedora CD with a GUI install interface to see what that returns? -- Gary

Dec. 20, 2006

Re: [Wlug] looking for a PCI graphics card

by Mike Frysinger

On Wednesday 20 December 2006 14:26, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I'm looking for a cheap PCI graphics card to see if that fixes the > problem. Even a loaner would help. i probably have one i can part with ... some S3 virge or something -mike

Dec. 20, 2006

looking for a PCI graphics card

by Bill Mills-Curran

The graphics (motherboard) on my linux box have stoped... I still have an ascii screen, but no graphics. (No errors in any logs, so I suspect a hardware failure.) I'm looking for a cheap PCI graphics card to see if that fixes the problem. Even a loaner would help. Thanks, Bill

Dec. 20, 2006

Senior System Administrator position available

by Dwight A. Ernest

Since this list has been a source of some good contract work for me in the past, I thought I'd return the favor. In my capacity as IP Ops director at RNK Communications (http://www.rnkcomm.com/) I'm looking for a Senior Systems Administrator. Knowledge of FreeBSD, Linux, and Cisco networking, in that order, is required/desired. The full job posting may be viewed at http://www.rnkcomm.com/career.htm#srnetwork. Thanks!

Dec. 19, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Linksys Router

by John Stoffel

Gary> I recently upgraded my router to a WRT45GS and have been having Gary> a bear of a time trying to figure out why, when I boot Linux, I Gary> can't get an IP address from the router but with Windows I can. I've always thought it was a good ideal to seperate the Wireless Access Point (AP) hardware from that of the Router which gives me my firewall and other services. I can place both where they do the most good, and keep the complexity level down, since I just have two devices which each do a well defined job. Gary> It worked with the old router. It works with Windows. There are Gary> no DHCP tweaks in the router. What the hell is wrong? Linksys sucks? Gary> Turns out that there a bug in the router. It doesn't like Gary> Linux-based DHCP requests. This is a known issue and apparently Gary> Linksys has no intention of fixing it. But they did release a Gary> Linux-compatible version of the router instead. Gary> So my options are to either by the Linux-compatible version or Gary> find another brand that supports Linux (or better, doesn't Gary> exclude Linux) and is as good wireless performance-wise as the Gary> Linksys routers. Gary> Any recommendations? Gary> I know there is an open source firmware product that can be Gary> applied, but I'm not ready to try that yet as I work from home a Gary> lot and I'm in the middle of an important project so I need a Gary> stable VPN connection right now. Is your VPN endpoint on the home computer, or is it on the Linksys box? That would be the deciding factor. If it's on the computer, then I'd doubt that going to the Linux compatible router hardware (or just updating the firmware) would have any impact at all on the VPN. Good luck! John

Dec. 18, 2006

x.mount

by Jamie Guinan

Hi all, I meant to post the little script I use to manage FUSE mounts. Here it is, http://www.bluebutton.com/wlug/x.mount I put some dummy entries in the fstab, including one with "foo" to exercise the not-handled case. -Jamie

Dec. 18, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Linksys Router

by Gary Hanley

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, Adam Keck wrote: > Hello Gary, > I assume you mean WRT54GS ;). Yes, of course! > the dd-wrt open firmware supports some versions of your router. If you > cannot make your Linux dhcp client work, you might try changing the firmware > on your router to support Linux. I may go there someday, but I don't have the capacity for an extended downtime if I have problems. Thanks for the link. -- Gary

Dec. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Linksys Router

by Gary Hanley

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, Jamie Guinan wrote: > If the router always uses the same subnet on the client side, and > its not a laptop that you use in different envirionments, maybe > you could just pick a static address. I thought of that, although I haven't set up a static IP in a long time. What is the problem for the laptop? I have a year-old wireless-G HP Turion if that matters. -- Gary

Dec. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Linksys Router

by Gary Hanley

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, jmoyer(a)redhat.com wrote: > Do you know the details of this? You could just patch the dhcp client to > generate the broken requests. I know as much as I posted this morning, as I just found out. Patching the client seems like a good idea, but I'll bet that the problem is due to Linksys being out of spec to accommodate a Windows "enhancement" and the Linux folks are not going to patch that on principal. -- Gary

Dec. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Linksys Router

by Adam Keck

Hello Gary, I assume you mean WRT54GS ;). According to <http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/What_is_DD-WRT%3F#Supported_Devices>, the dd-wrt open firmware supports some versions of your router. If you cannot make your Linux dhcp client work, you might try changing the firmware on your router to support Linux. If you want to change routers and you are interested in the Linux open firmware, then <http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/What_is_DD-WRT%3F#Recommended_Devices> has some good suggestions. -Adam On 12/16/06, jmoyer(a)redhat.com <jmoyer(a)redhat.com> wrote: > > ==> Regarding [Wlug] Linksys Router; Gary Hanley <gary(a)hanley.net> adds: > > gary> I recently upgraded my router to a WRT45GS and have been having a > gary> bear of a time trying to figure out why, when I boot Linux, I can't > gary> get an IP address from the router but with Windows I can. > > gary> It worked with the old router. It works with Windows. There are no > gary> DHCP tweaks in the router. What the hell is wrong? > > gary> Turns out that there a bug in the router. It doesn't like > Linux-based > gary> DHCP requests. This is a known issue and apparently Linksys has no > gary> intention of fixing it. But they did release a Linux-compatible > gary> version of the router instead. > > Do you know the details of this? You could just patch the dhcp client to > generate the broken requests. > > -Jeff > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- -Adam

Dec. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Linksys Router

by Jamie Guinan

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, Gary Hanley wrote: > I recently upgraded my router to a WRT45GS and have been having a bear > of a time trying to figure out why, when I boot Linux, I can't get an > IP address from the router but with Windows I can. > > It worked with the old router. It works with Windows. There are no > DHCP tweaks in the router. What the hell is wrong? > > Turns out that there a bug in the router. It doesn't like Linux-based > DHCP requests. This is a known issue and apparently Linksys has no > intention of fixing it. But they did release a Linux-compatible > version of the router instead. > > So my options are to either by the Linux-compatible version or find > another brand that supports Linux (or better, doesn't exclude Linux) > and is as good wireless performance-wise as the Linksys routers. > > Any recommendations? If the router always uses the same subnet on the client side, and its not a laptop that you use in different envirionments, maybe you could just pick a static address. -Jamie

Dec. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Linksys Router

by jmoyer＠redhat.com

==> Regarding [Wlug] Linksys Router; Gary Hanley <gary(a)hanley.net> adds: gary> I recently upgraded my router to a WRT45GS and have been having a gary> bear of a time trying to figure out why, when I boot Linux, I can't gary> get an IP address from the router but with Windows I can. gary> It worked with the old router. It works with Windows. There are no gary> DHCP tweaks in the router. What the hell is wrong? gary> Turns out that there a bug in the router. It doesn't like Linux-based gary> DHCP requests. This is a known issue and apparently Linksys has no gary> intention of fixing it. But they did release a Linux-compatible gary> version of the router instead. Do you know the details of this? You could just patch the dhcp client to generate the broken requests. -Jeff

Dec. 16, 2006

Linksys Router

by Gary Hanley

I recently upgraded my router to a WRT45GS and have been having a bear of a time trying to figure out why, when I boot Linux, I can't get an IP address from the router but with Windows I can. It worked with the old router. It works with Windows. There are no DHCP tweaks in the router. What the hell is wrong? Turns out that there a bug in the router. It doesn't like Linux-based DHCP requests. This is a known issue and apparently Linksys has no intention of fixing it. But they did release a Linux-compatible version of the router instead. So my options are to either by the Linux-compatible version or find another brand that supports Linux (or better, doesn't exclude Linux) and is as good wireless performance-wise as the Linksys routers. Any recommendations? I know there is an open source firmware product that can be applied, but I'm not ready to try that yet as I work from home a lot and I'm in the middle of an important project so I need a stable VPN connection right now. -- Gary

Dec. 16, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Balloon board

by Jamie Guinan

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Andy Stewart wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andre Lehovich wrote: > > After the meeting a few of us chatted about embeded hardware projects. The > > Balloon Board, based on the Strongarm CPU, has all open specs. Unfortunately > > it looks like a sample board is about $700. http://balloonboard.org/ > > > > An example product built using the board: > > http://www.toby-churchill.com/english/product_info/index.html > > > > --Andre > > Other possibilities for Linux friendly embedded projects: > > I made a firewall with Linux software with the Routerboard: > http://www.routerboard.com > > The USB development board looks interesting, but I haven't actually > tried it: > http://www.delcom-eng.com/ > > These look rather neat, but seem to be a little expensive IMHO, but not > unreachable: > http://www.gumstix.com > > The embedded development kits look interesting as well, but the prices > are exceedingly high. Two examples: > http://www.arcom.com/devkit-linux-apollo.htm > http://www.arcom.com/devkit-linux-pxa270-zeus.htm > > I don't think this vendor offers Linux support, but Linux does work with > these products: > http://www.hobbyengineering.com/SectionBS.html Here's a few more... 1) pickit1/pickit2, very reasonably priced, http://www.microchipdirect.com/ProductDetails.aspx?Catalog=BuyMicrochip&Cat… 2) NSLU2, $99 at many retailers, and I've seen quite a few on eBay. XScale (ARM), USB 2.0, Ethernet, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2 One of my "someday" projects is to make my own computer-controlled alt-azimuth mount for amateur telescopes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altazimuth_mount Or even just a replacement controller for the existing motorized mount. -Jamie

Dec. 15, 2006

Fuse and other users

by Jamie Guinan

The other night I was trying to find the code where FUSE [dis]allowed other users to access files, but I couldn't remember where it was. Found it in fs/fuse/dir.c, /* ... * For this reason only those processes can call into the filesystem, * for which the owner of the mount has ptrace privilege. This * excludes processes started by other users, suid or sgid processes. */ static int fuse_allow_task(struct fuse_conn *fc, struct task_struct *task) { if (fc->flags & FUSE_ALLOW_OTHER) return 1; if (task->euid == fc->user_id && task->suid == fc->user_id && task->uid == fc->user_id && task->egid == fc->group_id && task->sgid == fc->group_id && task->gid == fc->group_id) return 1; return 0; } The FUSE_ALLOW_OTHER flag is set when you invoke a fuse program like sshfs with "-o allow_other". -Jamie

Dec. 15, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Balloon board

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Andre Lehovich wrote: > After the meeting a few of us chatted about embeded hardware projects. The > Balloon Board, based on the Strongarm CPU, has all open specs. Unfortunately > it looks like a sample board is about $700. http://balloonboard.org/ > > An example product built using the board: > http://www.toby-churchill.com/english/product_info/index.html > > --Andre Other possibilities for Linux friendly embedded projects: I made a firewall with Linux software with the Routerboard: http://www.routerboard.com The USB development board looks interesting, but I haven't actually tried it: http://www.delcom-eng.com/ These look rather neat, but seem to be a little expensive IMHO, but not unreachable: http://www.gumstix.com The embedded development kits look interesting as well, but the prices are exceedingly high. Two examples: http://www.arcom.com/devkit-linux-apollo.htm http://www.arcom.com/devkit-linux-pxa270-zeus.htm I don't think this vendor offers Linux support, but Linux does work with these products: http://www.hobbyengineering.com/SectionBS.html Well, that's it for now. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFgehXHl0iXDssISsRAtWBAJ9jm5HEBvR+KspVYz+pZy5J9H4xTACeM3US LBI/kttIlfTvMK2O4Hd0XrM= =lcEv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 15, 2006

Fuse "slides", other notes

by Jamie Guinan

FUSE presentation, http://www.bluebutton.com/wlug/fuse-presentation/index.html Thanks for putting up with the delays due to my ill-preparedness in forgetting my port-replicator, and big thanks (again) to Frank S. for hooking me up with the Mac laptop. Before we settled on using the Mac, I was going to try this, http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ but it was slow to install and I didn't want to delay the presentation any further. It lets you export your whole X display over VNC. I just tried it on a system here, and it does work - in fact, if you run the viewer on the same host, you get an "infinite hall of mirrors effect", like pointing a webcam at your monitor, http://www.bluebutton.com/wlug/x11vnc-hom.png A useful tool for remote access, AND for Cthulhu to inflict non-euclidean madness on X11 users! :) Happy holidays all! -Jamie

Dec. 14, 2006

Balloon board

by Andre Lehovich

After the meeting a few of us chatted about embeded hardware projects. The Balloon Board, based on the Strongarm CPU, has all open specs. Unfortunately it looks like a sample board is about $700. http://balloonboard.org/ An example product built using the board: http://www.toby-churchill.com/english/product_info/index.html --Andre ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com

Dec. 14, 2006

[Fwd: Immediate Need: Senior Software Engineer]

by Arllen

I got these job postings from a recruiter I keep in touch with. Both jobs are for software engineers with Linux/Unix experience. Arllen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Immediate Need: Senior Software Engineer Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:19:19 -0600 From: General Employment Enterprises, Inc. <wob(a)genp.com> To: <arllen(a)earthlink.net> I have two excellent perm opportunities for a Senior Software Engineer that are a high priority for my client. They make a Software Intrusion Detection Product. I pasted a brief description below for both positions. If interested give me a call anytime from 7 AM till 5 PM. Dewayne Palm General Employment 781-938-7950 dpalm(a)genp.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Network Application Software Engineer Our client is an exciting software company with a suite of applications that protect some of the largest networks in the world. With a client base of Fortune 250 customers they make network behavioral analysis software that identifies potential threats by understanding how normal network traffic acts. The Network Application Software Engineer will work in the corporate offices (Boston) and will report to the VP of Engineering. This is a full life cycle product development position where you will have the opportunity to get involved in everything from requirements gathering through coding and support. If you are looking for a start up environment where you can really make an impact and you are looking to work with some of the coolest technology with some of the brightest people than this is the place for you. Pick up the phone and call one of our recruiters today. Requires: 1. C++ 2. Perl 3. Linux/Unix 4. Systems Programming including Network APIs, multithreading, memory mapping...) Plusses: 1. TCP/IP 2. Relational Databases 3. Product Development 4. Additional scripting languages. 5. Excellent Mathematics background ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Description: GUI Software Engineer Our client is an exciting software company with a suite of applications that protect some of the largest networks in the world. With a client base of Fortune 250 customers they make network behavioral analysis software that identifies potential threats by understanding how normal network traffic acts. The GUI Software Engineer will work with the product development team and create user-friendly front-ends for their suite of applications. You will need to be comfortable working with customers and have a solid knowledge of PHP, Perl and JavaScript (other scripting languages would be a plus.) All development is done in a Unix/Linux environment. A solid mathematics background and knowledge of TCP/IP is very helpful. Requires: 1. PHP, Perl and JavaScript 2. Linux/Unix Plusses: 1. Solid knowledge of TCP/IP

Dec. 13, 2006

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Gregory Avedissian wrote: > Hi Andy, > > If you still want to get rid of your 36G scsi drive, I'm still interested in giving it a new home. Thanks. HI Greg, The drive is a Hitachi: HUS151436VL3600 36GB Drive Manufactured 28MAY2005 15,000 RPM 68 pin SCSI Sealed in the antistatic bag - never opened! I received it as a replacement for an IBM DeathStar drive that failed (twice!) under warranty. If you want it, buy me pizza, and its yours! Later, Andy > > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfzkPHl0iXDssISsRAr3pAJ46DUW46W2vdOUca9pbxmCEuIfJdgCfSUxV UYwLxRnCIz9Nu/Gbn3nEgZ0= =PnXt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel / video problem

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 11:40:53AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > cisco_ipsec: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. > Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.8.00 (0490) kernel module loaded Does the problem still occur after removing this proprietary kernel module?

Dec. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel / video problem

by Jeff Moyer

==> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:40:53 -0500, Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> said: Bill> On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:12:27AM -0500, Jeff Moyer wrote: Bill> > To: Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> Bill> <snip> Bill> > Bill> > Get the output from the 'dmesg' command and post it here as a follow-up. Bill> > Bill> > -Jeff Bill> Jeff, Bill> Here it is. Well, that didn't actually list the problem, so given that the X server has problems every boot, I'd say the two are unrelated. Someone else mentioned checking the X server logs. I think that is a good place to start. -Jeff p.s. Nuked the BLU CC since I can't post there.

Dec. 12, 2006

P4 Socket 478 Heatsink Retention Bracket

by Mike

Woah, that is a mouthful huh? I am in dire need for one of those brackets. Does anyone have a spare? I have googled it and its about 1.50 part, but 8 bucks to ship. Go figure. I was wondering if anyone had one they could bring tomorrow night. It looks like this: http://tekgems.com/Products/tg-et-11492-cpu-wrp4-16w1-51.htm Cheers, Mike -- They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security --Ben Franklin

Dec. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel / video problem

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:12:27AM -0500, Jeff Moyer wrote: > To: Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> <snip> > > Get the output from the 'dmesg' command and post it here as a follow-up. > > -Jeff Jeff, Here it is. Bill Linux version 2.6.16-1.2096_FC4 (bhcompile(a)hs20-bc1-4.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 4.0.2 20051125 (Red Hat 4.0.2-8)) #1 Wed Apr 19 15:27:46 EDT 2006 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001f740000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000001f740000 - 000000001f750000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 000000001f750000 - 000000001f800000 (ACPI NVS) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 503MB LOWMEM available. found SMP MP-table at 000ff780 Using x86 segment limits to approximate NX protection On node 0 totalpages: 128832 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:0 DMA32 zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:0 Normal zone: 124736 pages, LIFO batch:31 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:0 DMI 2.3 present. ACPI: RSDP (v000 ACPIAM ) @ 0x000f7080 ACPI: RSDT (v001 INTEL D845GVSR 0x20040603 MSFT 0x00000097) @ 0x1f740000 ACPI: FADT (v001 INTEL D845GVSR 0x20040603 MSFT 0x00000097) @ 0x1f740200 ACPI: MADT (v001 INTEL D845GVSR 0x20040603 MSFT 0x00000097) @ 0x1f740300 ACPI: DSDT (v001 INTEL D845GVSR 0x0000010b MSFT 0x0100000d) @ 0x00000000 ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x408 ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000 ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled) Processor #0 15:3 APIC version 20 ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02] lapic_id[0x81] disabled) ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x01] dfl dfl lint[0x1]) ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x02] dfl dfl lint[0x1]) ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x01] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0]) IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 1, version 32, address 0xfec00000, GSI 0-23 ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl) ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 high level) ACPI: IRQ0 used by override. ACPI: IRQ2 used by override. ACPI: IRQ9 used by override. Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information Allocating PCI resources starting at 20000000 (gap: 1f800000:e0800000) Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quiet mapped APIC to ffffd000 (fee00000) mapped IOAPIC to ffffc000 (fec00000) Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Initializing CPU#0 CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=c040a000 soft=c040b000 PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 32768 bytes) Detected 2667.461 MHz processor. Using pmtmr for high-res timesource Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Memory: 505180k/515328k available (2131k kernel code, 9608k reserved, 754k data, 200k init, 0k highmem) Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 5342.54 BogoMIPS (lpj=10685097) Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Initializing. SELinux: Starting in permissive mode selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability Capability LSM initialized as secondary Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 CPU: After generic identify, caps: bfebfbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000441d 00000000 00000000 CPU: After vendor identify, caps: bfebfbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000441d 00000000 00000000 monitor/mwait feature present. using mwait in idle threads. CPU: Trace cache: 12K uops, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 256K CPU: After all inits, caps: bfebf3ff 00000000 00000000 00000180 0000441d 00000000 00000000 Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU0: Intel P4/Xeon Extended MCE MSRs (12) available CPU0: Thermal monitoring enabled CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz stepping 04 Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs ..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=-1 pin2=-1 checking if image is initramfs... it is Freeing initrd memory: 1646k freed NET: Registered protocol family 16 ACPI: bus type pci registered PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0031, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 ACPI: Subsystem revision 20060127 ACPI: Interpreter enabled ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00) PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) Boot video device is 0000:00:02.0 PCI quirk: region 0400-047f claimed by ICH4 ACPI/GPIO/TCO PCI quirk: region 0480-04bf claimed by ICH4 GPIO PCI: Ignoring BAR0-3 of IDE controller 0000:00:1f.1 PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.P0P1._PRT] ACPI: Power Resource [URP1] (off) ACPI: Power Resource [FDDP] (off) ACPI: Power Resource [LPTP] (off) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs *3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled. ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 *10 11 12 14 15) Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay pnp: PnP ACPI init pnp: PnP ACPI: found 13 devices usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, post a report pnp: 00:0b: ioport range 0x400-0x47f could not be reserved pnp: 00:0b: ioport range 0x680-0x6ff has been reserved pnp: 00:0b: ioport range 0x480-0x4bf has been reserved PCI: Ignore bogus resource 6 [0:0] of 0000:00:02.0 PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:1e.0 IO window: d000-dfff MEM window: ff800000-ff8fffff PREFETCH window: dea00000-deafffff PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1e.0 to 64 apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac) apm: overridden by ACPI. audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) audit(1165882958.584:1): initialized Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0 VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks Initializing Cryptographic API ksign: Installing public key data Loading keyring - Added public key FD06BDCFDB15BAC1 - User ID: Red Hat, Inc. (Kernel Module GPG key) io scheduler noop registered io scheduler anticipatory registered io scheduler deadline registered io scheduler cfq registered (default) pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 ACPI: Processor [CPU1] (supports 8 throttling states) isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Real Time Clock Driver v1.12ac Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones agpgart: Detected an Intel 845G Chipset. agpgart: Detected 8060K stolen memory. agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xf0000000 PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 PNP: PS/2 controller doesn't have AUX irq; using default 12 serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 2 ports, IRQ sharing enabled serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A 00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx ICH4: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:1f.1 PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:1f.1 (0005 -> 0007) ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.1[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 ICH4: chipset revision 1 ICH4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: HDS722580VLAT20, ATA DISK drive hdb: WDC WD800JB-00CRA1, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Probing IDE interface ide1... hdc: HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4481B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: max request size: 512KiB hda: 120103200 sectors (61492 MB) w/1794KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(100) hda: cache flushes supported hda: hda1 hda2 hdb: max request size: 128KiB hdb: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(100) hdb: cache flushes not supported hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide usbcore: registered new driver libusual usbcore: registered new driver hiddev usbcore: registered new driver usbhid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice md: md driver 0.90.3 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 md: bitmap version 4.39 NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) TCP bind hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 327680 bytes) TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 16384) TCP reno registered TCP bic registered Initializing IPsec netlink socket NET: Registered protocol family 1 NET: Registered protocol family 17 Using IPI Shortcut mode ACPI wakeup devices: P0P1 UAR1 USB0 USB1 USB2 USB3 AC97 SLPB ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5) Freeing unused kernel memory: 200k freed Write protecting the kernel read-only data: 346k device-mapper: 4.5.0-ioctl (2005-10-04) initialised: dm-devel(a)redhat.com input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0 kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. SELinux: Disabled at runtime. SELinux: Unregistering netfilter hooks FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 e100: Intel(R) PRO/100 Network Driver, 3.5.10-k2-NAPI e100: Copyright(c) 1999-2005 Intel Corporation ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:08.0[A] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 e100: eth0: e100_probe: addr 0xff8ef000, irq 17, MAC addr 00:0C:F1:F2:DF:C9 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.5[B] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 18 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.5 to 64 intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 55128 usecs intel8x0: clocking to 48000 hw_random: RNG not detected ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.7[D] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.7 to 64 ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: EHCI Host Controller ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: debug port 1 PCI: cache line size of 128 is not supported by device 0000:00:1d.7 ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: irq 19, io mem 0xffa7fc00 ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.7: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004 usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 6 ports detected USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.3 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 20 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.0 to 64 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: irq 20, io base 0x0000e800 usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.1[B] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 21 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.1 to 64 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.1: irq 21, io base 0x0000e880 usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1d.2[C] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1d.2 to 64 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4 uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.2: irq 16, io base 0x0000ec00 usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice eepro100.c:v1.09j-t 9/29/99 Donald Becker http://www.scyld.com/network/eepro100.html eepro100.c: $Revision: 1.36 $ 2000/11/17 Modified by Andrey V. Savochkin <saw(a)saw.sw.com.sg> and others usb 2-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice input: HID 413c:3010 as /class/input/input1 input: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [HID 413c:3010] on usb-0000:00:1d.0-1 usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice SCSI subsystem initialized Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. usb-storage: device found at 3 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x0317 usbcore: registered new driver usblp drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: v0.13: USB Printer Device Class driver NET: Registered protocol family 10 lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver Vendor: eM Model: Bay Reader Rev: 1.00 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Vendor: eM Model: Bay Reader Rev: 1.01 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Vendor: eM Model: Bay Reader Rev: 1.02 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Vendor: eM Model: Bay Reader Rev: 1.03 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 usb-storage: device scan complete sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda sd 0:0:0:1: Attached scsi removable disk sdb sd 0:0:0:2: Attached scsi removable disk sdc sd 0:0:0:3: Attached scsi removable disk sdd ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] ACPI: Sleep Button (CM) [SLPB] ibm_acpi: ec object not found md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. EXT3 FS on dm-0, internal journal kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Adding 524280k swap on /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:524280k ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready e100: eth0: e100_watchdog: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready parport: PnPBIOS parport detected. parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). lp0: console ready eth0: no IPv6 routers present cisco_ipsec: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel. Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.8.00 (0490) kernel module loaded

Dec. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel / video problem

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 10:34:49AM -0500, gboyce wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:34:49 -0500 (EST) > From: gboyce <gboyce(a)badbelly.com> > To: Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> > cc: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)wlug.org>, BLU Discuss <discuss(a)blu.org> > Subject: Re: kernel / video problem > > On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > >After rebooting to runlevel 5, I could not get back to graphics mode, > >at least a visible graphics screen. Although I can sometimes get a > >graphics screen showing boot progress, it never gets to the splash > >screen. Everything from the text/console screens looks normal. I > >have not found any errors in the system log. I've tried switching > >monitors, and get the same result. > > By "Graphics Mode", are you referring to X or a frame buffer console? > > If it's X, have you tried looking at the X server logs? The log should be > found in /var/log, and would either be named Xorg.0.log or XFree86.0.log. > It's generally pretty informative if you read through it. > > -- > Greg Boyce > Greg, I had looked at those logs. There's a fair amount in them, but no error (EE) entries. However, one thing comes to mind... I had been playing with screen resolution some weeks before this "event", and this was the first reboot. It's possible that I had bumped the resolution too high. Bill

Dec. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel / video problem

by gboyce

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > After rebooting to runlevel 5, I could not get back to graphics mode, > at least a visible graphics screen. Although I can sometimes get a > graphics screen showing boot progress, it never gets to the splash > screen. Everything from the text/console screens looks normal. I > have not found any errors in the system log. I've tried switching > monitors, and get the same result. By "Graphics Mode", are you referring to X or a frame buffer console? If it's X, have you tried looking at the X server logs? The log should be found in /var/log, and would either be named Xorg.0.log or XFree86.0.log. It's generally pretty informative if you read through it. -- Greg Boyce

Dec. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] kernel / video problem

by Jeff Moyer

==> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:37:22 -0500, Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> said: Bill> Some kind of email loop started on my system yesterday that generated a Bill> huge inbox (> 20 GB) on my system. It was detecting a relay loop and Bill> then emailing the error which triggered another one. Each email was Bill> larger than the last because it contained an account of all the Bill> previous errors. After cleaning everything up, I rebooted because Bill> some processes had failed due to lack of memory. Bill> After rebooting to runlevel 5, I could not get back to graphics mode, Bill> at least a visible graphics screen. Although I can sometimes get a Bill> graphics screen showing boot progress, it never gets to the splash Bill> screen. Everything from the text/console screens looks normal. I Bill> have not found any errors in the system log. I've tried switching Bill> monitors, and get the same result. Bill> Now I've noticed errors in my logwatch email for the last 2 days (same Bill> error twice): Bill> --------------------- Kernel Begin ------------------------ Bill> WARNING: Kernel Errors Present Bill> [<c01037ef>] error_code+0x4f/0x54 ...: 69 Time(s) Bill> [<c0313190>] do_page_fault+0x0/0x630 [<c01037ef>] error_code+0x4f/0x54 ...: 62 Time(s) Bill> Normal free:3224kB min:2776kB low:3468kB high:4164kB active:206364kB inactive:206236kB present:498944kx630 [<c01037ef>] error_code+0x4f/0x54 ...: 1 Time(s) Bill> ---------------------- Kernel End ------------------------- Bill> Because I had not previously noticed this error, I was thinking that Bill> the video problem was hardware -- I was starting to look for a Bill> replacement video card. Now I'm not so sure. Bill> What do these kernel errors mean? Don't know, there's not enough to go on. Bill> Where are they logged? dmesg. Bill> Are the problems related (kernel errors & video problem)? maybe. Bill> Any opinion whether this is a hardware or software problem? Get the output from the 'dmesg' command and post it here as a follow-up. -Jeff

Dec. 12, 2006

Linux/C++/C/Java developer opportunity

by Jrcalareso＠aol.com

I'm doing a search for a client that needs a software engineer who will be working on design and implementation of software application solutions for Linux based, next generation communications products. This is an intermediate to senior level role (salary range tops out in the $80's, plus excellent benefits and work environment). Location is 495 area. Qualifications/Experience 3-8 years of industry experience. Must be strong in C++ and/or ('C') programming, JAVA and Linux program development. Knowledge and experience in the areas of IP Protocols, routing technologies, LAN, WAN Remote Access or Security are pluses as is knowledge of the kernel mechanisms and kernel development. To be considered, please forward your credentials in the strictest confidence to Joe Calareso (_jrcalareso(a)aol.com_ (mailto:jrcalareso@aol.com) ,) retained technical search consultant. All responses will be acknowledged. (mailto:wlug@mail.wlug.org)

Dec. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: Meeting Wed 7:00 PM

by Gregory Avedissian

Hi Andy, If you still want to get rid of your 36G scsi drive, I'm still interested in giving it a new home. Thanks. Greg

Dec. 12, 2006

REMINDER: Meeting Wed 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, Its time for a WLUG meeting - coming up on Wednesday, Dec 13th, at 7:00 PM in the Access Grid Room on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. WLUG member Jamie Guinan will be our guest speaker, and the meeting topic will be FUSE (file systems in user space). You can find out more here: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/ I'll bring a couple of things for the no-cost raffle, and we can adjourn to the pizza restaurant after the meeting. Oh yeah, there will be light refreshments at the meeting. See ya there! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFfiguHl0iXDssISsRAlovAJ9soWBvR9yuFs3ru5Rt51/Y5EXp2QCdH0Ee 7ZAIuObeDFW34xzGs65Zjsg= =WVD5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Dec. 12, 2006

kernel / video problem

by Bill Mills-Curran

Some kind of email loop started on my system yesterday that generated a huge inbox (> 20 GB) on my system. It was detecting a relay loop and then emailing the error which triggered another one. Each email was larger than the last because it contained an account of all the previous errors. After cleaning everything up, I rebooted because some processes had failed due to lack of memory. After rebooting to runlevel 5, I could not get back to graphics mode, at least a visible graphics screen. Although I can sometimes get a graphics screen showing boot progress, it never gets to the splash screen. Everything from the text/console screens looks normal. I have not found any errors in the system log. I've tried switching monitors, and get the same result. Now I've noticed errors in my logwatch email for the last 2 days (same error twice): --------------------- Kernel Begin ------------------------ WARNING: Kernel Errors Present [<c01037ef>] error_code+0x4f/0x54 ...: 69 Time(s) [<c0313190>] do_page_fault+0x0/0x630 [<c01037ef>] error_code+0x4f/0x54 ...: 62 Time(s) Normal free:3224kB min:2776kB low:3468kB high:4164kB active:206364kB inactive:206236kB present:498944kx630 [<c01037ef>] error_code+0x4f/0x54 ...: 1 Time(s) ---------------------- Kernel End ------------------------- Because I had not previously noticed this error, I was thinking that the video problem was hardware -- I was starting to look for a replacement video card. Now I'm not so sure. What do these kernel errors mean? Where are they logged? Are the problems related (kernel errors & video problem)? Any opinion whether this is a hardware or software problem? TIA, Bill

Dec. 12, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by ken jones

Dec. 10, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by ken jones

Frank Sweetser wrote, "That's because they're 3rd party packages from atrpms.net that neither fedora nor redhat have anything to do with." I was told (incorrectly, I guess)that Fedora had incorporated ALSA. What sound card support does Core 6 offer? Is my problem just that the SoundBlaster Live is unique? Ken Jones

Dec. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by Chuck Anderson

I'm sorry we were unable to help you get the official built-in Fedora Core driver for your sound card working. Note that since you have opted for a non-Fedora Core provided driver, you will now have to install a new third-party alsa-kmdl package from the ATrpms repository everytime a new Fedora Core kernel update is released. On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 08:17:33PM -0500, ken jones wrote: > Why was this so difficult? What is it that I do not understand about > the Fedora packages? Some folks told me that ALSA was part of Core 6. > I was using ALSA with Core 4. ALSA is a part of every Fedora Core release. It isn't packaged separately--it is part of the standard Fedora Core kernel package. It should "Just Work". Since it didn't just work, would you mind helping us out to figure out why? Standard Fedora sound driver for your sound card (two kernel versions shown here): $ rpm -ql kernel | grep emu10 /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/drivers/input/gameport/emu10k1-gp.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1 /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1-synth.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1x.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/kernel/drivers/input/gameport/emu10k1-gp.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1 /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1-synth.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1x.ko /etc/modprobe.conf: alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1

Dec. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by Frank Sweetser

> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:17:33 -0500 > ken jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > > I solved my Fedora Core 6 sound card problem. > > I found and rpm'd these files: > > > > alsa-driver-1.0.13-56.fc6.at.i386.rpm > > alsa-kmdl-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6-1.0.13-56.fc6.at.i586.rpm > > > > For some reason alsa files are not part of: > > <http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386 That's because they're 3rd party packages from atrpms.net that neither fedora nor redhat have anything to do with. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

Dec. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by Brian J. Conway

That looks like an updates directory, have the Alsa packages been updated or would the ones in the distribution directory be the latest? I haven't used Fedora, but I'd assume you'd have a couple locations that yum would go for packages, maybe you only have the updates location defined? -b On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:17:33 -0500 ken jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > I solved my Fedora Core 6 sound card problem. > I found and rpm'd these files: > > alsa-driver-1.0.13-56.fc6.at.i386.rpm > alsa-kmdl-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6-1.0.13-56.fc6.at.i586.rpm > > For some reason alsa files are not part of: > <http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386 > /> > > Similarly my 'yum' can not find them. > > Now I can not remember where I did find them. > > Why was this so difficult? What is it that I do not understand about > the Fedora packages? Some folks told me that ALSA was part of Core 6. > I was using ALSA with Core 4. > > I thank you all for your efforts :-) > > Ken Jones

Dec. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by ken jones

I solved my Fedora Core 6 sound card problem. I found and rpm'd these files: alsa-driver-1.0.13-56.fc6.at.i386.rpm alsa-kmdl-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6-1.0.13-56.fc6.at.i586.rpm For some reason alsa files are not part of: <http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386/> Similarly my 'yum' can not find them. Now I can not remember where I did find them. Why was this so difficult? What is it that I do not understand about the Fedora packages? Some folks told me that ALSA was part of Core 6. I was using ALSA with Core 4. I thank you all for your efforts :-) Ken Jones

Dec. 9, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Further info on my Core 6 problems

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 09:23:51PM -0500, ken jones wrote: > When I first installed CORE 6 it booted just fine. > Now it hangs and gives the message snipped below. > ---------------start snip---------- > No prebuilt modules for: Fedora - 6 linux-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6.i686-SMP. > Trying to automatically build the driver modules. (This requires a C > compiler and proper kernel sources to be installed) > > WARNING - Missing file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h. The > cause of this is usually a missing or unconfigured kernel source tree > (and sometimes an incorrect directory or symbolic link.) > However, proper /boot/config-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6 was found. > ---------------end snip----------- These messages are not from standard Fedora Core packages and the snippet you gave does not indicate their origin, so it is hard to give specific help. What third party kernel device drivers do you have installed? SMP refers to the multiprocessor kernel, which in FC6 is no longer separate from the uniprocessor kernel. If you read the Release Notes at: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc6/en_US/sn-Kernel.html#id2542… it describes how to build kernel modules.

Dec. 6, 2006

Further info on my Core 6 problems

by ken jones

When I first installed CORE 6 it booted just fine. Now it hangs and gives the message snipped below. If I do [CNTRL C] it finishes. It says that it can not find Linux/version.h where it thinks it should be. I have erased the kernel-devel package. Why is it trying to compile? It is referring to a SMP version. I do not see the string SMP anywhere in the REDHAT download page <http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386/>. What do you think is going on? Ken Jones ---------------start snip---------- No prebuilt modules for: Fedora - 6 linux-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6.i686-SMP. Trying to automatically build the driver modules. (This requires a C compiler and proper kernel sources to be installed) WARNING - Missing file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h. The cause of this is usually a missing or unconfigured kernel source tree (and sometimes an incorrect directory or symbolic link.) However, proper /boot/config-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6 was found. ---------------end snip----------- As I said. At this point the little spinning icon is busy. The progression bar is not progressing. CNTRL-C initiales a successful finish of the boot. Ken Jones

Dec. 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by Chuck Anderson

What happens when you use system-config-soundcard (On the GNOME menu as System->Adminstration->Soundcard Detection)? On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 02:38:25PM -0500, ken jones wrote: > [root@kjones-fedora alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a]# /sbin/lsmod | grep snd Ok, so none of ALSA is loaded at the moment. > [root@kjones-fedora alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a]# /sbin/lspci -vvv > 02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] EMU10k1X > Subsystem: Creative Labs Unknown device 1003 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This should be supported out-of-the-box on Fedora Core. > Back around Core3 and Core4 I used "soundon" and "soundoff" from > <http://www.4front-tech.com/>. > That is where this all started. Open Sound System does not work > either. Here is what happens when I > type 'soundon'. OSS/Free in the Linux kernel is obsolete and there is no reason to use it anymore. I have no experience with the commercial version of OSS, since I have never had any need to use it.

Dec. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Mythtv Packages

by Chuck Noyes

On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:47:50 -0500 Clint Moyer <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> wrote: > Hmmm, I'm running it on an Athlon 64 and a Sempron. Got a link? > > > ---- Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > > > Oh.... > > > > I can't upgrade to 'edgy' because the kernel that is distributed on > > the edgy CD causes my system to kernel-panic. According to the > > ubuntu website, it appears to be a known problem that the edgy > > kernel has with AMD Athlon systems. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Clint, see the link below. There seems to be lots of people, most are running an Athlon of some flavor (I'm using an XP1500), and all are using the VIA chipset. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/61848 -- -Chuck

Dec. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Mythtv Packages

by Clint Moyer

Hmmm, I'm running it on an Athlon 64 and a Sempron. Got a link? ---- Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > Oh.... > > I can't upgrade to 'edgy' because the kernel that is distributed on the > edgy CD causes my system to kernel-panic. According to the ubuntu > website, it appears to be a known problem that the edgy kernel has with > AMD Athlon systems.

Dec. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by ken jones

Here are the important results of lsmod and lspci. [root@kjones-fedora alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a]# /sbin/lsmod | grep snd [root@kjones-fedora alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a]# /sbin/lspci -vvv 02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] EMU10k1X Subsystem: Creative Labs Unknown device 1003 Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- Latency: 64 (500ns min, 5000ns max) Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 3 Region 0: I/O ports at dc40 [size=32] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- 02:09.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value] Input device controller Subsystem: Creative Labs Unknown device 1003 Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- Latency: 64 Region 0: I/O ports at dc70 [size=8] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Back around Core3 and Core4 I used "soundon" and "soundoff" from <http://www.4front-tech.com/>. That is where this all started. Open Sound System does not work either. Here is what happens when I type 'soundon'. -------------start Open Sound System snip------------- [root@kjones-fedora alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a]# soundon Relinking OSS kernel modules for "2.6.18-1.2849.fc6 SMP mod_unload 586 REGPARM 4KSTACKS gcc-4.1" This may take few moments - please stand by... OSS build environment set up for REGPARM kernels Warning: Cannot locate the Linux kernel development package for Linux kernel version 2.6.18-1.2849.fc6 Please install the kernel development package if linking the OSS modules fails. The kernel development package may be called kernel-devel, kernel-smp-devel, kernel-sources, kernel-headers or something like that. Please refer to the documentation of your Linux distribution if there are any difficulties in installing the kernel/driver development environment. Assuming that you are using Fedora Core 5 or later the right kernel source package (RPM) is probably called kernel-smp-devel. Building module osscore Failed to compile OSS make -C /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/build M=/usr/lib/oss/build modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6-i686' make[1]: *** No rule to make target `modules'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.18-1.2798.fc6-i686' make: *** [default] Error 2 Relinking the OSS kernel modules failed [root@kjones-fedora alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a]# -----------------end OSS snip----------- (Why do my messages to WLUG have grey fonts instead of black?) Ken Jones

Dec. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Mythtv Packages

by Andre Lehovich

--- Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> wrote: > I assume that the sources.list file is processed top to bottom by apt. Sorta. Apt always pulls in the version of the package with the highest release number. If that version is available from more than one repository, apt downloads from the one listed first. So you should sort the list by download time, fastest to slowest. My sources.list looks something like this: deb http://debian.example.org/debian testing main deb http://debian.example.org/debian testing/updates main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main deb http://security.debian.org/debian testing/updates main This ensures that if an updated package is already available from my local mirror I get a fast download from there. But if it hasn't yet arrived, I still get it by a slower download from the main server. --Andre ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com

Dec. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Mythtv Packages

by Chuck Noyes

Oh.... I can't upgrade to 'edgy' because the kernel that is distributed on the edgy CD causes my system to kernel-panic. According to the ubuntu website, it appears to be a known problem that the edgy kernel has with AMD Athlon systems. On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:58:00 -0500 maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: > Starting with Ubuntu Edgy the mythtv packages are in the > distribution. If yo can manage to upgrade to edgy i would recommend > that track. If you can't and are stuck at dapper, then add the follow > package repos in your sources.list files. > > ### mythtv #### > deb http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main > deb-src http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main > > - brad > > On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 05:06:33PM -0500, Chuck Noyes wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm trying to build a Mythtv box, and I'd like to know where I can > > find either the 0.19 or 0.20 Mythtv packages for Ubuntu "Dapper". > > I've looked around and all I can find are the 0.18 packages. The > > 0.19 version has been out for a while and I guess the 0.20 version > > is still sort of 'bleeding' edge. So there probably isn't a > > "Dapper" package for that yet. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Mythtv Packages

by Chuck Noyes

On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:58:00 -0500 maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: I assume that the sources.list file is processed top to bottom by apt. So, do I want to be sure to put these repos at the top of the list? What does apt do if it finds a package in 2 different repos? -Chuck > Starting with Ubuntu Edgy the mythtv packages are in the > distribution. If yo can manage to upgrade to edgy i would recommend > that track. If you can't and are stuck at dapper, then add the follow > package repos in your sources.list files. > > ### mythtv #### > deb http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main > deb-src http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main > > - brad > > On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 05:06:33PM -0500, Chuck Noyes wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm trying to build a Mythtv box, and I'd like to know where I can > > find either the 0.19 or 0.20 Mythtv packages for Ubuntu "Dapper". > > I've looked around and all I can find are the 0.18 packages. The > > 0.19 version has been out for a while and I guess the 0.20 version > > is still sort of 'bleeding' edge. So there probably isn't a > > "Dapper" package for that yet. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Mythtv Packages

by maitre＠ccs.neu.edu

Starting with Ubuntu Edgy the mythtv packages are in the distribution. If yo can manage to upgrade to edgy i would recommend that track. If you can't and are stuck at dapper, then add the follow package repos in your sources.list files. ### mythtv #### deb http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main deb-src http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 dapper main - brad On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 05:06:33PM -0500, Chuck Noyes wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm trying to build a Mythtv box, and I'd like to know where I can find > either the 0.19 or 0.20 Mythtv packages for Ubuntu "Dapper". I've looked > around and all I can find are the 0.18 packages. The 0.19 version has > been out for a while and I guess the 0.20 version is still > sort of 'bleeding' edge. So there probably isn't a "Dapper" package for > that yet. > > Thanks, > > -- > -Chuck > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Mythtv Packages

by Karl Hiramoto

I would suggest you use the 0.19-fixes or 0.20-fixes from SVN (subversion repository) The 0.19 and 0.20 vanilla releases have a lot of bugs, but it depends on your hardware and setup if you will really be affected by the bugs. See the mythtv wiki on the bug fixes in the -fixes branches in SVN. On gentoo linux, there are packages based on SVN snapshots. Chuck Noyes wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm trying to build a Mythtv box, and I'd like to know where I can find > either the 0.19 or 0.20 Mythtv packages for Ubuntu "Dapper". I've looked > around and all I can find are the 0.18 packages. The 0.19 version has > been out for a while and I guess the 0.20 version is still > sort of 'bleeding' edge. So there probably isn't a "Dapper" package for > that yet. > > Thanks, > > -- -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/

Dec. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by Chuck Anderson

On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 06:18:11PM -0500, ken jones wrote: > My problem is that I understand the details of neither the kernel nor > the sound card. Generally, with distributions such as Fedora Core you never need to compile anything yourself. If should "just work" out of the box. If sound isn't working, start by posting this information from a terminal: /sbin/lsmod | grep snd /sbin/lspci -vvv

Dec. 5, 2006

Please ignore "first snip"

by ken jones

First snip was clearly my mistake. Please ignore. Ken

Dec. 5, 2006

Specific alsa errors....Core 6

by ken jones

Prior to this point I had had some problems An error message kept saying that it could not find my Linux/version.h file. I did a 'locate' command and got three locations. I do not know what to make of all this. Ken Jones Here's what happened. ----------start first snip--------- [root@kjones-fedora alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a]# locate include/linux/version.h /usr/include/linux/version.h /usr/src/kernels/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6-i686/include/linux/version.h /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.18/linux-2.6.18.i686/include/linux/version.h -------so did a [configure --with-kernel=] to one of the above--------- [root@kjones-fedora alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a]# ./configure --with-kernel=/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.18/linux-2.6.18.i686/include/linux checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for egrep... grep -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes checking for inline... inline checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included... yes checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no checking for current directory... /usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a checking cross compile... checking for directory with kernel source... /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.18/linux-2.6.18.i686/include/linux checking for directory with kernel build... checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.18/linux-2.6.18.i686/include/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist. Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/source). /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.18/linux-2.6.18.i686/include/linux/version.h [root@kjones-fedora alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a]# ./configure --with-kernel=/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.18/linux-2.6.18.i686/include/linux checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for egrep... grep -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes checking for inline... inline checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included... yes checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no checking for current directory... /usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a checking cross compile... checking for directory with kernel source... /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.18/linux-2.6.18.i686/include/linux checking for directory with kernel build... checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.18/linux-2.6.18.i686/include/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist. Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/source). ----------end first snip------- ---------start second snip-------- [root@kjones-fedora alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a]# ./configure --with-kernel=/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.18/linux-2.6.18.i686 checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for egrep... grep -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes checking for inline... inline checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included... yes checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no checking for current directory... /usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a checking cross compile... checking for directory with kernel source... /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.18/linux-2.6.18.i686 checking for directory with kernel build... checking for kernel version... 0.0.0 checking for GCC version... Kernel compiler: Used compiler: gcc (GCC) 4.1.1 20061011 (Red Hat 4.1.1-30) *** NO PREDEFINED KERNEL COMPILER IS DETECTED *** Assuming the same compiler is used with the current system compiler. *** Please make sure that the same compiler version was used for building kernel. checking for built-in ALSA... "no" checking for existing ALSA module... "yes" checking for Red Hat kernel... "auto" checking for Red Hat kernel... "no" checking for SUSE kernel... "auto" checking for SUSE kernel... "no" checking to modify of kernel linux/kmod.h... "no" checking for kernel linux/compiler.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/pm.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/spinlock.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/irq.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/threads.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/rwsem.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/gameport.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/devfs_fs_kernel.h... "no" Creating a dummy <linux/devfs_fs_kernel.h>... checking for kernel linux/highmem.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/workqueue.h... "yes" Removing a dummy linux/workqueue.h. checking for kernel linux/dma-mapping.h... "yes" Removing a dummy linux/dma-mapping.h. checking for kernel asm/hw_irq.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/device.h... "yes" Removing a dummy linux/device.h. checking for kernel linux/jiffies.h... "yes" Removing a dummy linux/jiffies.h. checking for kernel linux/compat.h... "yes" Removing a dummy linux/compat.h. checking for kernel linux/adb.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/cuda.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/pmu.h... "yes" checking for kernel linux/moduleparam.h... "yes" Removing a dummy linux/moduleparam.h. checking for kernel linux/syscalls.h... "yes" Removing a dummy linux/syscalls.h. checking for kernel linux/firmware.h... "yes" checking for exported symbol dump_stack... grep: /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-2.6.18/linux-2.6.18.i686/kernel/ksyms.c: No such file or directory "no" checking for kernel module symbol versions... "yes" checking for PCI support in kernel... "yes" checking for I2C driver in kernel... module checking for firmware loader... yes checking for directory to store kernel modules... /lib/modules/0.0.0/misc checking for verbose printk... on checking for debug level... none checking for processor type... i686 checking for i386 machine type... default checking for SMP... "yes" checking for ISA PnP driver in kernel... yes checking for PnP driver in kernel... yes checking for Kernel ISA-PnP support... "yes" checking for strlcpy... "no" checking for snprintf... "no" checking for vsnprintf... "no" checking for scnprintf... "no" checking for sscanf... "no" checking for vmalloc_to_page... "no" checking for old kmod... "yes" checking for PDE... "no" checking for pci_set_consistent_dma_mask... "no" checking for pci_dev_present... "no" checking for msleep... "no" checking for tty->count is the atomic type... "no" checking for io_remap_pfn_range... "no" checking for new io_remap_page_range... "no" checking for kcalloc... "no" checking for saved_config_space in pci_dev... "no" checking for old kill_fasync... "no" checking for dma_addr_t... "no" checking for MUTEX macros... "no" Removing local linux/pnp.h. checking for driver version... 1.0.9rc4a checking for sequencer support... yes checking for OSS/Free emulation... yes checking for RTC callback support in kernel... "no" checking for HPET support... "yes" checking for Procfs support... "yes" checking for USB support... "yes" checking for PC-Speaker hook... "no" checking for kernel PCMCIA checking for PCMCIA support... "yes" checking for PC9800 support in kernel... "no" checking for parallel port support... "yes" checking for which soundcards to compile driver for... all configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating version config.status: creating Makefile.conf config.status: creating snddevices config.status: creating utils/alsa-driver.spec config.status: creating utils/buildrpm config.status: creating toplevel.config config.status: creating utils/alsasound config.status: creating utils/alsasound.posix config.status: creating include/config.h config.status: creating include/config1.h config.status: creating include/version.h config.status: include/version.h is unchanged config.status: creating include/autoconf-extra.h Hacking autoconf.h... -----------end second snip------- ---------start third snip-------- [root@kjones-fedora alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a]# make install rm -f /lib/modules/0.0.0/misc/snd*.*o /lib/modules/0.0.0/misc/persist.o /lib/modules/0.0.0/misc/isapnp.o make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a/acore' mkdir -p /lib/modules/0.0.0/misc cp snd-hpet.o snd-hwdep.o snd-page-alloc.o snd-pcm.o snd-rawmidi.o snd-timer.o snd.o /lib/modules/0.0.0/misc cp: cannot stat `snd-hpet.o': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `snd-hwdep.o': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `snd-page-alloc.o': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `snd-pcm.o': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `snd-rawmidi.o': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `snd-timer.o': No such file or directory cp: cannot stat `snd.o': No such file or directory make[1]: *** [_modinst__] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/alsa-driver-1.0.9rc4a/acore' make: *** [install-modules] Error 1 ------end third snip------- ----I continued to struggle, but to no avail-----------

Dec. 5, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by jmoyer＠redhat.com

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???; ken jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> adds: kjones> My problem is that I understand the details of neither the kernel nor kjones> the sound card. kjones> I think everyone's advice is to: kjones> [rpm -e kernel-devel] kjones> and kjones> [rpm -ihv kernel-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6.src.rpm]. kjones> The try again according to the alsa WEB page. kjones> Sound right? You never really gave us the story on how you diagnosed that your sound card wasn't working properly (or if you did, I missed it). The FC 6 kernel supports alsa, so I'm not sure exactly why you're rebuilding at all. Is there some known erratum that addresses your particular problem? -Jeff

Dec. 4, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by ken jones

My problem is that I understand the details of neither the kernel nor the sound card. I think everyone's advice is to: [rpm -e kernel-devel] and [rpm -ihv kernel-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6.src.rpm]. The try again according to the alsa WEB page. Sound right? Ken

Dec. 4, 2006

Mythtv Packages

by Chuck Noyes

Hi All, I'm trying to build a Mythtv box, and I'd like to know where I can find either the 0.19 or 0.20 Mythtv packages for Ubuntu "Dapper". I've looked around and all I can find are the 0.18 packages. The 0.19 version has been out for a while and I guess the 0.20 version is still sort of 'bleeding' edge. So there probably isn't a "Dapper" package for that yet. Thanks, -- -Chuck

Dec. 4, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by Chuck Anderson

On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 10:03:47PM -0500, ken jones wrote: > I have a SoundBlaster Live sound card. The driver is emu10k1. ALSA > provides some modules that need to be built into the kernel. No > matter what I do the builds can not find the appropriate version.h > file. What's wrong with the precompiled emu10k1 driver module provided by the FC6 kernel package?

Dec. 4, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by Don Levey

Sorry - I thought you were trying to build the module. How about kernel.src packages? -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Don Levey Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:18 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source??? Perhaps the kernel-headers package will help? -Don -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of ken jones Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:04 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source??? I have a SoundBlaster Live sound card. The driver is emu10k1. ALSA provides some modules that need to be built into the kernel. No matter what I do the builds can not find the appropriate version.h file. I am trying to build the kernel from kernel-devel-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6. Previous Core versions provided a kernel-source rpm. Core 6 does not. This time it is called kernel-devel. Something is very different. Can any of you point me to a cook book level WEB page that will point my way... _______________________________________________

Dec. 4, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by Don Levey

Perhaps the kernel-headers package will help? -Don -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of ken jones Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 10:04 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source??? I have a SoundBlaster Live sound card. The driver is emu10k1. ALSA provides some modules that need to be built into the kernel. No matter what I do the builds can not find the appropriate version.h file. I am trying to build the kernel from kernel-devel-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6. Previous Core versions provided a kernel-source rpm. Core 6 does not. This time it is called kernel-devel. Something is very different. Can any of you point me to a cook book level WEB page that will point my way...

Dec. 4, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by Jeff Moyer

==> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:03:47 -0500, ken jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> said: ken> I have a SoundBlaster Live sound card. The driver is emu10k1. ALSA ken> provides some modules that need to be built into the kernel. No matter ken> what I do the builds can not find the appropriate version.h file. ken> I am trying to build the kernel from ken> kernel-devel-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6. Previous Core versions provided ken> a kernel-source rpm. Core 6 does not. This time it is called ken> kernel-devel. Something is very different. Can any of you point ken> me to a cook book level WEB page that will point my way... kernel-devel only includes the files necessary to build out-of-tree kenrel modules. If you want to rebuild the kernel, get the kernel .src.rpm. -Jeff

Dec. 4, 2006

Fedora Core 6 kernel source???

by ken jones

I have a SoundBlaster Live sound card. The driver is emu10k1. ALSA provides some modules that need to be built into the kernel. No matter what I do the builds can not find the appropriate version.h file. I am trying to build the kernel from kernel-devel-2.6.18-1.2849.fc6. Previous Core versions provided a kernel-source rpm. Core 6 does not. This time it is called kernel-devel. Something is very different. Can any of you point me to a cook book level WEB page that will point my way... -----------------snip example of trouble------------ checking for directory with kernel source... /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/source checking for directory with kernel build... /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/build checking for kernel version... The file /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/source/include/linux/version.h does not exist. Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /lib/modules/2.6.18-1.2849.fc6/source). ------------end snip------------------ I tried the --with-kernel=dir option. I would like sound again. Help! Ken Jones

Dec. 4, 2006

Hardware for Sale

by Chuck Noyes

Hi All, The company where I used to work...is looking to sell off some h/w. Below, is a list of what they're selling. Please note, I'm not selling the h/w. If you're interested in any of this, please let me know and I'll put you in touch with the appropriate person. Currently, just about all of this h/w is mounted in the 24U rack mentioned below. 3 Dell PowerEdge 1750 servers - 533 MHz FSB - 512 KB L2 Cache - 2 CPU sockets but only 1 populated. Each Server Has: 1 Intel Xeon 2.8 GHz CPU 1 GB RAM 1 74 GB SCSI 10K RPM Hard Drive 1 On-board ATI Rage SVGA adapter 1 Teac CD-ROM * 1 Floppy Drive 1 On-board 2 port gigabit ethernet NIC ** 1 On-board SCSI Ultra 320 Card 1 Qlogic QLA2340 PCI Fibre-Channel Card 1 USB 2.0 port All servers have Windows 2003 Server installed (but that can be fixed easily...) * = Server #2 has an NEC DVD/RW drive ** = Server #1 has a Realtek 8139 fast ethernet NIC in addition to the 2-port gig-e NIC Other Hardware: 1 24U 19 inch rack 1 Rack mounted Brocade Silkworm 8-port 3200 FC switch 1 Dell PowerVault 136T Tape Library Unit (really an ADIC Scalar 100) 2 SDLT320 tape drives internal to the TLU 1 Dell PowerConnect unmanaged 16-port ethernet switch 1 Belkin 4-machine KVM switch 2 SMC TigerStack III (SMC Model #6824M) 24-port managed ethernet switches 4 APC 750VA Battery Backup Units 1 Rack mounted APC Smart-UPS 2200VA Battery Backup Unit -- -Chuck

Dec. 4, 2006

Re: [Wlug] reiserfs corruption....

by Eric Stein

You don't think everyone on the internet already knows? Don't count on it going away. Not that I wouldn't absolutely love to switch to ZFS... http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/10/12/0355223 Eric > I'm not 100% that ReiserFs is going to be supported much longer. > http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/10/BAGERLM3RR15.DTL > > =)

Dec. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] reiserfs corruption....

by Joe Riopel

I'm not 100% that ReiserFs is going to be supported much longer. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/10/BAGERLM3RR15.DTL =) On 11/28/06, Eric Stein <eastein(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > I am happy to report that reiserfsck --rebuild-tree solved my problem - I > only lost a few tempfiles and a script. > > Eric > > > Hi all, > > > > After a nasty power problem, I have corruption on a reiserfs volume. What > > I did: > > http://toba.ath.cx:724/~eastein/reiserfsck.txt > > > > I think I may have a damaged drive. > > > > The scariest prospect: > > Bad root block 0. (--rebuild-tree did not complete) > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Eric > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] reiserfs corruption....

by Eric Stein

I am happy to report that reiserfsck --rebuild-tree solved my problem - I only lost a few tempfiles and a script. Eric > Hi all, > > After a nasty power problem, I have corruption on a reiserfs volume. What > I did: > http://toba.ath.cx:724/~eastein/reiserfsck.txt > > I think I may have a damaged drive. > > The scariest prospect: > Bad root block 0. (--rebuild-tree did not complete) > > Any ideas? > > Eric

Nov. 29, 2006

Linux/C Developer opportunity

by Jrcalareso＠aol.com

Senior Software Engineer responsible for the design and implementation of software application solutions for Linux based, next generation communications/networking products. Salary range is $80-95K. This is a permanent position with a location in the 495/Acton MA area. Outstanding technology and work environment. If you are a good match and interested, please forward your credentials in the strictest confidence to Joe Calareso (_jrcalareso(a)aol.com_ (mailto:jrcalareso@aol.com) ,) retained technical search consultant. All responses will be acknowledged. Qualifications/Experience 3-10 years of experience or equivalent skill set and knowledge in 'C' programming and Linux program development. Knowledge and experience in the areas of LAN, WAN Remote Access or Security are definite pluses. The basic requirements for the position are: * Extensive experience and knowledge in developing software within the Linux operating system, knowledge of the kernel mechanisms and kernel development a plus. * Strong 'C' programming language. Additional skills that are plusses: * Knowledge and experience with the Gdb debugger and its derivatives. * Knowledge in Serial Communications and associated protocols. *Knowledge in IP Protocols, Routing technologies and associated routing protocols. * Development experience on the Motorola platform/860 Families of embedded Microprocessors. * Knowledge in the areas of security, RADIUS, Secure ID, SSH and encryption standards.

Nov. 28, 2006

email problem

by Bill Mills-Curran

I'm having a problem with email bouncing to verizon.net addresses, and I suspect some other servers may be deleting it entirely. My config... I'm using mutt, which delivers to a local smtp server. My machine has a fake domain name (mills.curran), since I'm on a NAT'ed firewall. I route/relay my email through a web services provider with my own domain name (mills-curran.net) on a static IP. I know the issue is not a blacklisting, because the email gets delivered if I use the web interface for email at the mills-curran.net site. I suspect that verizon.net doesn't like the fact that the email header includes records including the fake mills.curran domain. I've tried some sendmail configuration changes with no success. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bill

Nov. 25, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Using Knoppix to copy an NTFS drive

by Chuck Noyes

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 12:13:17 -0500 Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 11:04:14AM -0500, Chuck Noyes wrote: > > I booted up the 5.0 KNOPPIX CD and tried dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb. > > There were no error messages and after about 30 minutes the 'dd' > > finished. However from KNOPPIX, I can't mount the new drive. the > > mount command (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1) fails with: > > Are you sure the copy completed all the way through the entire disk? > dd will stop after errors unless you pass certain options: > > dd conv=noerror,sync > > Maybe you can try using "ddrescue" which will continue after errors > and be smarter about copying blocks around errors: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug I did get it working!! The command I used was: "sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=512 conv=noerror,sync" This worked perfectly. I now have a duplicate NTFS drive that I can mount from KNOPPIX and Linux. I can also run Win2k from when I need to (not very often). Thanks to Chuck A. and Jamie G. for their help. -- -Chuck

Nov. 23, 2006

reiserfs corruption....

by Eric Stein

Hi all, After a nasty power problem, I have corruption on a reiserfs volume. What I did: http://toba.ath.cx:724/~eastein/reiserfsck.txt I think I may have a damaged drive. The scariest prospect: Bad root block 0. (--rebuild-tree did not complete) Any ideas? Eric

Nov. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Using Knoppix to copy an NTFS drive

by Chuck Anderson

On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 11:04:14AM -0500, Chuck Noyes wrote: > I booted up the 5.0 KNOPPIX CD and tried dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb. > There were no error messages and after about 30 minutes the 'dd' > finished. However from KNOPPIX, I can't mount the new drive. the mount > command (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1) fails with: Are you sure the copy completed all the way through the entire disk? dd will stop after errors unless you pass certain options: dd conv=noerror,sync Maybe you can try using "ddrescue" which will continue after errors and be smarter about copying blocks around errors: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html

Nov. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Using Knoppix to copy an NTFS drive

by Jamie Guinan

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Chuck Noyes wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have a drive that sounds like it's about to fail (making strange > noises and occasionally not booting), so I want to copy it to another > identical drive. The drive has 1 NTFS partition on it - I very > occasionally run Win2k. > > I booted up the 5.0 KNOPPIX CD and tried dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb. > There were no error messages and after about 30 minutes the 'dd' > finished. However from KNOPPIX, I can't mount the new drive. the mount > command (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1) fails with: > > "Couldn't mount device '/dev/hdb1'. input/output error - mount failed". > > The original drive (/dev/hda1) mounts without any problem. > > If I use the fdisk utility and look at the partition table, there are > no differences between the hda and hdb drives. > > Any ideas how I can solve this problem?? Hi Chuck, I don't know what the default block size is for dd, but maybe you could try adding "bs=512" to the dd arguments, so that you're copying on sector boundaries. I can't explain why this would help (if it does), its just a hunch. :) Also, maybe you could you turn off DMA to one or both drives before doing the dd. "hdparm -d0 ..." or something like that. -Jamie

Nov. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Using Knoppix to copy an NTFS drive

by Chuck Noyes

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:16:42 -0500 "Brett Russ" <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > On 11/22/06, Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > I booted up the 5.0 KNOPPIX CD and tried dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb. > > There were no error messages and after about 30 minutes the 'dd' > > Sounds like a 30-40GB drive? It's an 80 GB drive. > > > finished. However from KNOPPIX, I can't mount the new drive. the > > mount command (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1) fails with: > > > > "Couldn't mount device '/dev/hdb1'. input/output error - mount > > failed". > > Some things to do: > -Check the kernel log (dmesg will dump it) for errors on hdb. dmesg looks clean. > -Check the health of hdb (smartctl -a /dev/hdb) smartctl reports no problems or errors. If I run smartctl -t short /dev/hdb followed by smartctl -l selftest /dev/hdb, there are no errors. > > BR > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Nov. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Using Knoppix to copy an NTFS drive

by Brett Russ

On 11/22/06, Chuck Noyes <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> wrote: > I booted up the 5.0 KNOPPIX CD and tried dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb. > There were no error messages and after about 30 minutes the 'dd' Sounds like a 30-40GB drive? > finished. However from KNOPPIX, I can't mount the new drive. the mount > command (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1) fails with: > > "Couldn't mount device '/dev/hdb1'. input/output error - mount failed". Some things to do: -Check the kernel log (dmesg will dump it) for errors on hdb. -Check the health of hdb (smartctl -a /dev/hdb) BR

Nov. 22, 2006

Using Knoppix to copy an NTFS drive

by Chuck Noyes

Hi All, I have a drive that sounds like it's about to fail (making strange noises and occasionally not booting), so I want to copy it to another identical drive. The drive has 1 NTFS partition on it - I very occasionally run Win2k. I booted up the 5.0 KNOPPIX CD and tried dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb. There were no error messages and after about 30 minutes the 'dd' finished. However from KNOPPIX, I can't mount the new drive. the mount command (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1) fails with: "Couldn't mount device '/dev/hdb1'. input/output error - mount failed". The original drive (/dev/hda1) mounts without any problem. If I use the fdisk utility and look at the partition table, there are no differences between the hda and hdb drives. Any ideas how I can solve this problem?? BTW: The qtparted utility on the KNOPPIX 5.0 CD and DVD fails with a "floating point exception" error. TIA, -Chuck

Nov. 22, 2006

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by Mike Leo

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Nov. 18, 2006

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by Mike Leo

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Nov. 17, 2006

Seeking help with xine

by Walt Sawyer

Hi all, I'm having some trouble with xine. It used to work, but, for no apparent reason, I get error messages that say "-xine engine error- There is no demuxer plugin available to handle /xine-ui_logo.mpv." and "There is no demuxer plugin available to handle whatever file that I tried to open". Can anyone help me? Thanks! Walt

Nov. 8, 2006