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Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by Keith Wright

> From: Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> > > On Sunday 24 December 2006 19:32, Keith Wright wrote: > > > From: Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> > > > > > > if gcc is randomly ICEing, > > > > What's that then? ICE seems to be an acronym > > it's a gcc term: Internal Compiler Error Thank you, though this is a bit disapointing. I was hoping it meant Inexplicable Computer Error, or something else more general purpose. > > This could be your chance to get your entry > > in the jargon file, and if it becomes the > > next big catch-phrase you might even bargain > > to exchange the IP for some free advice. > > the thing run by esr ? yeah i could care less :p I'm guessing you couldn't care very much less without going negative. I was about to object that the jargon file is older than ESR, but that's not strictly true. In any case, he does run it, by the "You touch it, you own it" Hacker rule of IP. (Which is very different from the Lawyer's rule. They never have to Fix the Damned Thing.) Just for that, no free advice for you. -- Keith

Dec. 25, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by Mike Frysinger

On Sunday 24 December 2006 19:32, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> > > > > if gcc is randomly ICEing, > > What's that then? ICE seems to be an acronym it's a gcc term: Internal Compiler Error > This could be your chance to get your entry > in the jargon file, and if it becomes the > next big catch-phrase you might even bargain > to exchange the IP for some free advice. the thing run by esr ? yeah i could care less :p -mike

Dec. 24, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by Keith Wright

> From: Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> > > if gcc is randomly ICEing, What's that then? ICE seems to be an acronym, but for what? The jargon file (Hacker's Dictionary) tells me what I already knew, that ICE means Intrusion Counter-measure Electronics in some fiction I read long ago, but this doesn't seem to have anything to do with your usage. Further search reveals some kind of graphic hardware or company called ICE, but the PCI graphic card is in a different thread. So what is ICE? This could be your chance to get your entry in the jargon file, and if it becomes the next big catch-phrase you might even bargain to exchange the IP for some free advice. -- Keith

Dec. 24, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by freak4uxxx＠gmail.com

i'll give it a shot, thanks. -Eric -----Original Message----- From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Subj: Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc Date: Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:36 am Size: 1K To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Eric Martin wrote: > My laptop has been doing weird stuff lately. I built it a while ago > from Gentoo 2006.0 Stage 3, and every now and again it would turn off > while compiling something (usually if I had to upgrade glibc). I was > just trying to update mythtv and it crashed so I decided to level it > and start from scratch. I installed Gentoo 2006.1 Stage 3 and it's > doing the same thing. I went down to Stage 2 and I'm still having a > problem. I've done memtest in the past with clean results, but I'm > stuck because I don't know what the error is. While building a few > minutes ago I forgot to turn on swap space and it ran out of memory > before crashing (turning off). > > Is there anything I can do aside from piping the output to a file to > capture what the problem might be (tried it, not much help)? Has > anybody had similar problems with gcc / glibc? > > Thanks in advance > Eric My laptop will turn it self off if the temperature gets above 70C. Most laptops have some kind of temperature shut off function.. I would monitor your temperature with lmsensors, or mbmon (acpi temp zone). For me to control my Gentoo laptop temperature while compiling big packages, I have to have cpu frequency scaling running. If i run my 2.8ghz P4 laptop at 50% speed 1.4Ghz I don't have any temperature problems. I usually use the "powersave" or "ondemand" shedulers. Also you could try keeping a big enough space blow your laptop for air.. Assuming the temperature is the problem. -- -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/ US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk= karl.hiramoto [at] gmail [d0t] com -- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov

Dec. 24, 2006

looking for a PCI graphics card

by Bill Mills-Curran

Thanks to all who found/offered a PCI graphics card. My problem has been solved, even though it hasn't been really understood. A friend found a card of unknown condition, and I tried it. As expected, the motherboard graphics became inactive when I booted with the PCI card. However, the PCI card didn't work either. (It's that "unknown condition" thing, I think.) After a couple of power cycles, I removed the PCI card, and, magically, the motherboard graphics began to work. I don't see anything new in the X config, so I can only think that the system reset the motherboard graphics card back to a functional state. If anyone has a better theory, I'd like to hear it. Thanks to all who responded with an offer of a graphics card. Thanks, Bill

Dec. 24, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by Karl Hiramoto

Eric Martin wrote: > My laptop has been doing weird stuff lately. I built it a while ago > from Gentoo 2006.0 Stage 3, and every now and again it would turn off > while compiling something (usually if I had to upgrade glibc). I was > just trying to update mythtv and it crashed so I decided to level it > and start from scratch. I installed Gentoo 2006.1 Stage 3 and it's > doing the same thing. I went down to Stage 2 and I'm still having a > problem. I've done memtest in the past with clean results, but I'm > stuck because I don't know what the error is. While building a few > minutes ago I forgot to turn on swap space and it ran out of memory > before crashing (turning off). > > Is there anything I can do aside from piping the output to a file to > capture what the problem might be (tried it, not much help)? Has > anybody had similar problems with gcc / glibc? > > Thanks in advance > Eric My laptop will turn it self off if the temperature gets above 70C. Most laptops have some kind of temperature shut off function.. I would monitor your temperature with lmsensors, or mbmon (acpi temp zone). For me to control my Gentoo laptop temperature while compiling big packages, I have to have cpu frequency scaling running. If i run my 2.8ghz P4 laptop at 50% speed 1.4Ghz I don't have any temperature problems. I usually use the "powersave" or "ondemand" shedulers. Also you could try keeping a big enough space blow your laptop for air.. Assuming the temperature is the problem. -- -- Karl Hiramoto http://karl.hiramoto.org/ US VOIP: (1) 603.966.4448 Spain Casa (34) 951.273.347 Spain Mobil (34) 617.463.826 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto GTalk= karl.hiramoto [at] gmail [d0t] com -- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov

Dec. 24, 2006

Re: [Wlug] taking a hack at /etc/group

by Mike Frysinger

On Saturday 23 December 2006 22:58, d.maly(a)ieee.org wrote: > Anyway, let me ask you this: would you direct me to a few more places > that would obviously carry the 'residue' of wrong group members, if > any? off the top of my head, i cant think of anything > I was considering forcing ownership to 'me' because normally 'me' does > not have root access to the files ... may be specific to Ubuntu ... nah, not Ubuntu specific ... but running like: chown -R me:users /home/me should certainly be safe -mike

Dec. 24, 2006

Re: [Wlug] taking a hack at /etc/group

by Mike Frysinger

On Saturday 23 December 2006 19:38, d.maly(a)ieee.org wrote: > The fix is to add 'me' to the audio line in /etc/group: correct > So here's the question: should I add 'me' to all such lines? sounds like you should > Seems too crude ... and there must be some file > "upstream" that would lead to 'me' being left off in the first place ?? i dont use ubuntu myself, but i imagine that whatever utility you use to add yourself to the proper groups, they'd all be frontends to editing /etc/group anyways as for not being in the groups in the first place, that would be traced back to how your user was created in the first place -mike

Dec. 23, 2006

taking a hack at /etc/group

by d.maly＠ieee.org

I stumbled across bug #48545 (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/48545) when sound wouldn't work only for the "primary" user ('me') ... it *did* work for the other users on this computer, including others with access to root. The fix is to add 'me' to the audio line in /etc/group: audio:x:29:user1,user2,user3,me In the meantime, I noticed there were several lines in this file which included all users except 'me'. So here's the question: should I add 'me' to all such lines? Seems too crude ... and there must be some file "upstream" that would lead to 'me' being left off in the first place ?? Thanks, Doug

Dec. 23, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Problem w/gcc

by Mike Frysinger

On Saturday 23 December 2006 19:08, Eric Martin wrote: > Is there anything I can do aside from piping the output to a file to > capture what the problem might be (tried it, not much help)? it depends on the error if gcc is randomly ICEing, then it can commonly be caused by: - not enough physical ram - flaky hardware - flaky ram - cpu overheating the exact error message would point in the direction -mike

Dec. 23, 2006