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Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Jared Greenwald

Did you get my message about embedded Gentoo? On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:54:39 -0500, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:47 pm, Jared Greenwald wrote: > > The answer to all of these questions is one simple word: Gentoo. > > i dont think that's the answer he was looking for though ;) > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 31, 2005

RE: [Wlug] xbiff

by Martin, Eric J.

what's xbiff? -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mills-Curran [mailto:bill@mills-curran.net] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:47 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: [Wlug] xbiff Now that xbiff is gone (not in fc3), what's a good replacement? I've gotten a lot of good use out of xbiff & use it to notify me about a number of things. I'm surprised it's gone, but I guess it's time to move on. Suggestions? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 31, 2005

xbiff

by Bill Mills-Curran

Now that xbiff is gone (not in fc3), what's a good replacement? I've gotten a lot of good use out of xbiff & use it to notify me about a number of things. I'm surprised it's gone, but I guess it's time to move on. Suggestions? Thanks, Bill

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Adam Keck

Matt, > 2. Is it possible to not use any package group at all and simply > select the packages I want ? In this case I would just list out all > the rpms in the @core group and thats it .. possibly some extras. > Assuming you have a machine to play with this is an easy experiment to do. Do a "minimal" install and then harvest the kickstart file from /~root and save a list of the installed packages. Delete all the packages at the end of the kickstart file then list only the ones you want. Try an install with the new kickstart file. One of two things will happen depending what flags you have in the kickstart. Either the installer will autoselect any dependencies you are missing or the install will fail on missing dependencies. If your kickstart file is configured for the first option you can compare the package list on the new install to the "minimal" configuration package list. If the package lists are nearly the same then the minimal install is truly minimal and you are stuck with ~500mb. If the package list is smaller then you will be closer to a your goal. My guess is that RedHat chose the "base" and "core" nomenclature for a reason. Every other package depends on those packages. Good luck! -Adam

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Matt Higgins

As I said in my 1st message FC is a requirement. I have no choice. On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:54:39 -0500, Mike Frysinger <vapier(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:47 pm, Jared Greenwald wrote: > > The answer to all of these questions is one simple word: Gentoo. > > i dont think that's the answer he was looking for though ;) > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Mike Frysinger

On Sunday 30 January 2005 09:47 pm, Jared Greenwald wrote: > The answer to all of these questions is one simple word: Gentoo. i dont think that's the answer he was looking for though ;) -mike

Jan. 31, 2005

Re: [Wlug] KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Jared Greenwald

The answer to all of these questions is one simple word: Gentoo. I switched to Gentoo a couple years ago when I got fed up with the Redhat/Fedora installer. (I actually interviewed for a job there recently and told the author of the installer - Jeff Katz - I hated it to his face during the interview - needless to say I now work at Oracle.) I've found that for the machine that you want absolute minute control over each package and when you want only the minimum possible packages Gentoo is the answer. I also like it on desktop systems, but you really need something pretty fast or a lot of spare time as Xorg, KDE/Gnome and the mozilla suite take many hours to compile. But that's just my $.02... -Jared On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:44:59 -0500, Matt Higgins <matt.higgins(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am attempting a minimal fc3 install <500 MB, I was shooting for > <200MB. Looking at the @core package group from comps.xml. My > calculations show this group to be about 130MB and its description tag > reads "<description>Smallest possible installation</description>". > However the "Minimal Install" from the installer is about 530MB. With > some research it looks like, the minimal install is not just @core but > also @base and @dialup. I can easily exclude @dialup by setting the > uservisible tag to true and unselecting this package group. When I try > the same for @base it does not show up in the package selection list? > > So my questions are these > > 1. Is it possible though some ks syntax to exclude a default package > group from my kickstart config ? i.e. -@ PackageGroup ? If this were > possible I may be able to try -@base and -@dialup > leaving only @core. > > 2. Is it possible to not use any package group at all and simply > select the packages I want ? In this case I would just list out all > the rpms in the @core group and thats it .. possibly some extras. > > 3. Is there a way to create your own core package group.. this would > sever the same purpose as number 2 but possibly make it more flexible. > Note I know you can create your own extra package groups my goal is to > modify the existing @core group. > > Some other things to note.. I have to use Fedora and I would like to > have the kickstart totally unattended. I basically have the install > unattended with PXE,TFTP,NFS,DHCP but .. I need to tweak the packages. > > -Matt > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 31, 2005

KickStart fedora core 3 minimal exclude @base group

by Matt Higgins

I am attempting a minimal fc3 install <500 MB, I was shooting for <200MB. Looking at the @core package group from comps.xml. My calculations show this group to be about 130MB and its description tag reads "<description>Smallest possible installation</description>". However the "Minimal Install" from the installer is about 530MB. With some research it looks like, the minimal install is not just @core but also @base and @dialup. I can easily exclude @dialup by setting the uservisible tag to true and unselecting this package group. When I try the same for @base it does not show up in the package selection list? So my questions are these 1. Is it possible though some ks syntax to exclude a default package group from my kickstart config ? i.e. -@ PackageGroup ? If this were possible I may be able to try -@base and -@dialup leaving only @core. 2. Is it possible to not use any package group at all and simply select the packages I want ? In this case I would just list out all the rpms in the @core group and thats it .. possibly some extras. 3. Is there a way to create your own core package group.. this would sever the same purpose as number 2 but possibly make it more flexible. Note I know you can create your own extra package groups my goal is to modify the existing @core group. Some other things to note.. I have to use Fedora and I would like to have the kickstart totally unattended. I basically have the install unattended with PXE,TFTP,NFS,DHCP but .. I need to tweak the packages. -Matt

Jan. 31, 2005

[OT] Yet Another Perl Conference North America 2005 announces call-for-papers

by glim＠mycybernet.net

YAPC::NA 2005 (Yet Another Perl Conference, North America) has just released its call-for-papers; potential and aspiring speakers can submit a presentation proposal via: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml The dates of the conference are Monday - Wednesday 27-29 June 2005. The location will be in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Note that a different date block was previously announced, but has been moved to accomodate venue availability.) The close of the call-for-papers is April 18, 2005 at 11:59 pm. If you have any questions regarding the call-for-papers or speaking at YAPC::NA 2005 please email na-author(a)yapc.org We would love to hear from potential sponsors. Please contact the organizers at na-sponsor(a)yapc.org to learn about the benefits of sponsorship. Other information regarding the conference (e.g. venue, registration specifics) will be announced soon. We look forward to your submissions and a great conference!

Jan. 29, 2005

Re: [Wlug] Mailing list server upgrade

by Andy Stewart

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Jan. 27, 2005