February 2006 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] Anyone with Verizon fios?

by Jim Dibb

Check here for lots of info http://www.dslreports.com/forum/vzfiber I don't think you're required to use their router. And, I don't think it prevents anything, it's just a standard off-the-shelf home router that's 'certified' to support the speeds. I've looked into it a lot but so far am 'in the dark' as far as being able to get it. Stop by later... On 2/6/06, Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: > > Anyone using Verizon FiOS? > > The service looks interesting, but they require their own router. I'm > wondering if that prevents all incoming connections, like ssh? > > Also, the rates they quote on the web page refers to a "bundle > discount", but they don't say what a bundle is. > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 6, 2006

Anyone with Verizon fios?

by Bill Mills-Curran

Anyone using Verizon FiOS? The service looks interesting, but they require their own router. I'm wondering if that prevents all incoming connections, like ssh? Also, the rates they quote on the web page refers to a "bundle discount", but they don't say what a bundle is. Bill

Feb. 6, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Lee Keyser-Allen

And don't forget to make sure that your HDs are slaved correctly :) On 2/1/06, Dave Coutu <cout(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > Call me silly, but it would also probably help to mount the drive no matter > how you get the drive on a diff/new system. > > Figure out what device the drive is recognized as (i.e. /dev/hda, /devb/hdb, > etc.) and do the following: > > 1) Create a temporary mount point under /mnt > > mkdir /mnt/tmp > > 2) Mount the drive on that mount point. > > mount /dev/hdX /mnt/tmp > > where X is the drive letter assigned to the drive when the system boots. > The system should be smart enough to auto-detect the filesytem type and not > require you to pass options when you try and mount it. > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Frysinger" <vapier(a)gentoo.org> > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Cc: "Michael Zarozinski" <MichaelZ(a)aiguru.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:42 AM > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive > > > > On Wednesday 01 February 2006 14:32, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > >> I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 > >> hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data > >> we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I > >> recover the data I need? > > > > uhh why dont you just stick it into another computer, or boot off a livecd > > -mike > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Lee Keyser-Allen (lkeyser(a)alum.wpi.edu)

Feb. 2, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Dave Coutu

Call me silly, but it would also probably help to mount the drive no matter how you get the drive on a diff/new system. Figure out what device the drive is recognized as (i.e. /dev/hda, /devb/hdb, etc.) and do the following: 1) Create a temporary mount point under /mnt mkdir /mnt/tmp 2) Mount the drive on that mount point. mount /dev/hdX /mnt/tmp where X is the drive letter assigned to the drive when the system boots. The system should be smart enough to auto-detect the filesytem type and not require you to pass options when you try and mount it. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Frysinger" <vapier(a)gentoo.org> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Cc: "Michael Zarozinski" <MichaelZ(a)aiguru.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive > On Wednesday 01 February 2006 14:32, Michael Zarozinski wrote: >> I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 >> hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data >> we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I >> recover the data I need? > > uhh why dont you just stick it into another computer, or boot off a livecd > -mike

Feb. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Karl Hiramoto

Use a bootable CD, such as gentoo live, or knoppix http://www.knoppix.net/ Copy the stuff over the network.. with the boot CD you can setup a NFS server to do that, or FTP, or scp, rsync, or whatever. If you have the fresh install on a new HD, you should be able to see the 2nd HD. What kind of hd is it? sata, or eide? type "dmesg" on the new system and you should see what the drive got connected as. If you plugeed the old drive as secondary master it would show as /dev/hdc then you could mount the drive with "mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt" If you plugeed the old drive as the first SATA drive it would show as /dev/sda then you could mount the drive with "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" This is assuming you have your data on the first partition. All of your data would be in /mnt Good luck. Michael Zarozinski wrote: > Hi All, > > I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 > hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data > we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I > recover the data I need? > > I've been able to boot to the shell using the install disk and can see > the data I need but that shell doesn't provide access to the network > card so I can copy the data off. > > I tried a fresh install on a new HD but when I attatch the 2nd HD (with > the data I need) I can't see it. Forgive me, I come from the windows > world where just plugging in the old HD would allow me to pull the data > off. > > Any ideas/help/etc is greatly appreciated! > > Michael Z > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > --

Feb. 1, 2006

RE: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey)

When you put the 2nd HDD in the system that you built, did you 'mount' the old drive. The system will not automatically mount the old drive when you install it. Putting it into a working system to access the data is the best way. Yes, windows will automatically mount a new drive if it sees a valid formatted partition, but Linux generally does not. jeff -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Michael Zarozinski Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 2:32 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive Hi All, I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I recover the data I need? I've been able to boot to the shell using the install disk and can see the data I need but that shell doesn't provide access to the network card so I can copy the data off. I tried a fresh install on a new HD but when I attatch the 2nd HD (with the data I need) I can't see it. Forgive me, I come from the windows world where just plugging in the old HD would allow me to pull the data off. Any ideas/help/etc is greatly appreciated! Michael Z _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Mike Frysinger

On Wednesday 01 February 2006 14:32, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 > hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data > we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I > recover the data I need? uhh why dont you just stick it into another computer, or boot off a livecd -mike

Feb. 1, 2006

Rescuing Data From a Hard Drive

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi All, I've got a bit of a problem... we have a linux server that contained 2 hard drives. The one with the boot information died - LUCKILY the data we NEED was on the hard drive that lived. My question is... how can I recover the data I need? I've been able to boot to the shell using the install disk and can see the data I need but that shell doesn't provide access to the network card so I can copy the data off. I tried a fresh install on a new HD but when I attatch the 2nd HD (with the data I need) I can't see it. Forgive me, I come from the windows world where just plugging in the old HD would allow me to pull the data off. Any ideas/help/etc is greatly appreciated! Michael Z

Feb. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic

by Jared Greenwald

Yep, I'm pretty sure that was the graphical installer. Normally, for a stage1 install there is a 60M cd image that boots and has only command-line, but has many drivers that would be needed for a wide range of system installs. This method has an install guide of 7-8 webpages (the handbook) that walk you through everything from installing the basic packages to building a kernel and then setting up grub. The only complicated part is setting the CFLAGS and USE variables. -Jared On 1/31/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I did not try ( or know of) a graphical installer... > > i booted off the "livecd" and walked through the handbook to install....then gave up... > > thanks for the feedback anyway. > > --- Greg Labonte <gbonte(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > > > Just wondering Mike, Did you try using the Graphical installer for > > Gentoo? > > > > > > > On 1/30/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> Am I wrong, or is the gentoo install insanely comlicated? > > >> > > >> Although I did not sit in front of it from start to finish, it > > >> seems like an install takes hours > > >> and hours of work... > > >> > > >> I followed the Handbook (some 80 pages of documentation), which > > >> i'm sure is very accurate and each > > >> step worked as advertised, but in the end it was too much. > > >> > > >> After an install of debian, which takes me less than 20 minutes, > > >> this was too much for my poor > > >> little brain to take, and I eventually gave up. > > >> > > >> In addition to that, I can't for the life of me, get slackware to > > >> consistantly install lilo > > >> correctly during the install. > > >> > > >> Any comments on either of these would be apreciated, however, I am > > >> just writing this to toss my > > >> vote in for a linux install fest as a meeting topic. > > >> > > >> I have no problem bringing in a laptop to show the simple, > > >> eligant, streamlined, 20 minute debian > > >> install, but I would like to also see someone go through a gentoo > > >> install, and assist on a > > >> slackware lilo config...all of which can be done via my laptop if > > >> needed. > > >> > > >> Thanks ! > > >> Mike > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wlug mailing list > > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 1, 2006

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic

by Mike Leo

I did not try ( or know of) a graphical installer... i booted off the "livecd" and walked through the handbook to install....then gave up... thanks for the feedback anyway. --- Greg Labonte <gbonte(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > Just wondering Mike, Did you try using the Graphical installer for > Gentoo? > > > > On 1/30/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Am I wrong, or is the gentoo install insanely comlicated? > >> > >> Although I did not sit in front of it from start to finish, it > >> seems like an install takes hours > >> and hours of work... > >> > >> I followed the Handbook (some 80 pages of documentation), which > >> i'm sure is very accurate and each > >> step worked as advertised, but in the end it was too much. > >> > >> After an install of debian, which takes me less than 20 minutes, > >> this was too much for my poor > >> little brain to take, and I eventually gave up. > >> > >> In addition to that, I can't for the life of me, get slackware to > >> consistantly install lilo > >> correctly during the install. > >> > >> Any comments on either of these would be apreciated, however, I am > >> just writing this to toss my > >> vote in for a linux install fest as a meeting topic. > >> > >> I have no problem bringing in a laptop to show the simple, > >> eligant, streamlined, 20 minute debian > >> install, but I would like to also see someone go through a gentoo > >> install, and assist on a > >> slackware lilo config...all of which can be done via my laptop if > >> needed. > >> > >> Thanks ! > >> Mike > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 1, 2006