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Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by Chuck Homic

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 01:24:05PM -0400, doug waud wrote: > I guess I should restate the question: > How do you guess the byte size of a chuck? :-) > > (I was using that typo to have fun with Homic and Anderson) Funny, no one who commits this typo seems to ever notice. A cow-orker of mine once said, "It's a lot of work, but I'll take a large chuck." And I continued the thread for a bit, discussing what chuck of work everyone would be doing and no one noticed. Incidentally, when I got email from Fr. Scanlon, I was often referred to as Chuch. Funny that finger memory. :) As long as it's not an upchuck joke... -Chunk

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by doug waud

Brad Noyes wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:39:48PM -0400, doug waud wrote: > > Brad Noyes wrote: > > > > > > 512 byte chucks. > > > > How do you get the byte size of a chuck? > just a guess. For some reason 512 bytes stuck in my head as a block size so i > tried it and it worked. > > i did some more looking and i found some info on how tar handles things > http://www.gnu.org/manual/tar/html_node/tar_130.html > > And this site give some good information on block sizes and tapes, under the > "BLOCK SIZES" section > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/aix-faq/part2/section-1.html > > also in mt's man page, there is an option to set the block size (setblk), which > only works for scsi tapes. > > > > > For example, if we pipe Homic and/or Anderson to chucksize > > what would the output be? > > > i don't understand what your asking here. I guess I should restate the question: How do you guess the byte size of a chuck? :-) (I was using that typo to have fun with Homic and Anderson) Sorry, I did not intend to be taken seriously; normally nobody does! :-) doug

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by Bill Smith

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:44:52 -0400 Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: TVD> I believe the chucksize would be one, even if they're different. TVD> It's like one of my WPI roommates who was always exactly one Pete TVD> tall. I guess that's a benefit of being the standard for a unit of TVD> measurement. Even if you change relative to everything else, you're TVD> still exactly one of your measurement unit in size. ...which is not to be confused with the Candy Bar Scale.... <evil grin> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com Therapy is expensive. Popping bubblewrap is cheap. You choose. * TAG! v3.0 *

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by Bill Smith

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:39:49 -0400 Brad Noyes <maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu> wrote: BN> On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:39:48PM -0400, doug waud wrote: BN> > Brad Noyes wrote: BN> > > BN> > > 512 byte chucks. BN> > BN> > How do you get the byte size of a chuck? BN> just a guess. For some reason 512 bytes stuck in my head as a block BN> size so i tried it and it worked. BN> BN> i did some more looking and i found some info on how tar handles BN> things http://www.gnu.org/manual/tar/html_node/tar_130.html BN> BN> And this site give some good information on block sizes and tapes, BN> under the"BLOCK SIZES" section BN> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/aix-faq/part2/section-1.html BN> BN> also in mt's man page, there is an option to set the block size BN> (setblk), which only works for scsi tapes. BN> BN> > BN> > For example, if we pipe Homic and/or Anderson to chucksize BN> > what would the output be? BN> > BN> i don't understand what your asking here. re-read what you said, then take a look at the man page. what you're referring to was BLOCK size, but you said "chuck".... <g> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com If you have the right attitude, interesting problems will find you. -- ESR * TAG! v3.0 *

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Bill Smith

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:40:29 -0400 Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: TVD> > BBQ host) has a 60" projection screen TV that he could connect to TVD> > his laptop. TVD> TVD> I do have S-Video out from the laptop ... ;) <drool> TVD> I hope no one minds that my laptop doesn't run Linux. It is TVD> running a version of BSD though. ;) the more i think of it, the more i'm convinced that OSX is the only thing that would convince me jump off the Linux bandwagon. for a while, anyway. ;) TVD> Randomly Generated Tagline: TVD> "Thinking of using NT for your critical apps? TVD> Isn't there enough suffering in the world?" - Sun Microsystems TVD> Ad i have a picture of this ad that i used to have on my cube wall when i worked at Cabletron. like a dolt, i forgot to grab the advert, and a former co-worker was kind enough to take a snapshot of it and email it to me.... <g> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com To err is human. To blame it on somebody else is even more human. * TAG! v3.0 *

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Charles R. Anderson

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 10:34:02AM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: felicity> It works very nicely on OS X as well. Tell the OS to use wireless, felicity> give it the WEP key, now I'm on the network. :) Oh, so that's what you meant by a "version of BSD" I guess we can forgive you :) -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 10:39:49AM -0400, Brad Noyes wrote: > > > 512 byte chucks. > > > > For example, if we pipe Homic and/or Anderson to chucksize > > what would the output be? > > > i don't understand what your asking here. I believe the chucksize would be one, even if they're different. It's like one of my WPI roommates who was always exactly one Pete tall. I guess that's a benefit of being the standard for a unit of measurement. Even if you change relative to everything else, you're still exactly one of your measurement unit in size. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Any similarity to person/persons now living to anyone or thing, dead or undead, is entirely accidental and just one more irrefutable proof of the paranormal." - From the 7th Guest

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 01:04:14AM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: > Although I haven't asked Theo directly (but he's out there somewhere!), this Yeah, I lurk around a lot. Dark shifty characters tend to like shadow. ;) > question did arise A few wireless laptops running VNC sessions from a host > which has Theo's slides (if he makes any) might do the trick. Well, to be honest I haven't quite figured out what to do for a presentation yet. I figured I'd be talking about what I do to deal with spam, and I was planning on slides and perhaps a "live" demo (or perhaps a local laptop demo would be sufficient...) > BBQ host) has a 60" projection screen TV that he could connect to his laptop. I do have S-Video out from the laptop ... ;) I hope no one minds that my laptop doesn't run Linux. It is running a version of BSD though. ;) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Thinking of using NT for your critical apps? Isn't there enough suffering in the world?" - Sun Microsystems Ad

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by Brad Noyes

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:39:48PM -0400, doug waud wrote: > Brad Noyes wrote: > > > > 512 byte chucks. > > How do you get the byte size of a chuck? just a guess. For some reason 512 bytes stuck in my head as a block size so i tried it and it worked. i did some more looking and i found some info on how tar handles things http://www.gnu.org/manual/tar/html_node/tar_130.html And this site give some good information on block sizes and tapes, under the "BLOCK SIZES" section http://www.faqs.org/faqs/aix-faq/part2/section-1.html also in mt's man page, there is an option to set the block size (setblk), which only works for scsi tapes. > > For example, if we pipe Homic and/or Anderson to chucksize > what would the output be? > i don't understand what your asking here. --brad

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 10:28:18AM -0400, Josh Huber wrote: > Yeah, a friend of mine who uses Windows told me how much of a pain in > the ass it was to set up wireless...For me it was quite simple (well, > except for the ipsec setup) It works very nicely on OS X as well. Tell the OS to use wireless, give it the WEP key, now I'm on the network. :) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." (Linus Torvalds about the superiority of Linux on the Amterdam Linux Symposium)

July 19, 2002