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Educational Linux ... WAS: REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !!

by Marc Hughes

Speaking about linux in education ... I work for Tom Snyder Productions (a Scholastic company) (www.tomsnyder.com) we make Educational software for schools. Recently we started using a toolkit for windows/mac portability that also happens to have every kind of unix support you could want. (you can probably guess what toolkit it is). So us geeky engineers have been pushing for a linux port, even if it's an unsupported port. So we went to customer service to see how many linux requests there were ... 0, zero, nadda, zilch. And we have a very in-depth customer relations database, every call gets logged. We asked around a bit, and found that it probably wouldn't work. It seems schools using linux are usually doing it because they are trying to save every penny. Kind of hard to sell software to schools like that. But at least we found out there's a lot of linux fileservers out there, so we're QA'ing serving our network products from them. (you'd be surprised at the wide varriances in file-locking between servers & protocols!) So I guess the moral of the story, call you congressmen ... Err... Um...call your software vendors, you never know when they might be listening. Oh well, -Marc -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:33 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! Sorry - I thought I was sending that to just Andy... My bad... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:17 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! We should probably talk about Mad Dog and Linux in education... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:36 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! HI Everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held this coming Wednesday, February 19th, 2003 in a different location. The meeting room will be AK233 (Atwater Kent room 233). Please refer to the Wlug Meetings...Directions link for directions to this room. The building is right next to Salisbury Labs on the WPI campus. Please note the earlier start time of 6:00 PM ! At this meeting, we'll be having a LAN party ! This is WLUG's first LAN party so I'm curious to see what people bring. You'll need to bring your network gear (hubs, switches, cables) and a laptop or desktop machine with networking enabled. We'll interconnect all of the machines to create one big WLUG LAN. I'll bring my PLIP cable for the masochists in the crowd. This network most likely will *not* have access to the Internet (but we'll see what we can do). On this LAN, all sorts of activities could take place, such as multiplayer games, network security scans, attempts to (non-destructively!) crack another persons system to teach them about their security weaknesses, and more. Its really up to all of you and your imaginations as to what we can do with this type of setup. I'll even entertain doing a couple of network based Linux installations if folks want that. If people need help configuring their systems for networking, that help will be available. I'll also be available to do a demonstration of VNC for those interested. The possibilities are really endless. Due to the amount of time to setup such a LAN and still have time to have fun with it, I've extended the time of the WLUG meeting from 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM (note earlier start time!). Have a lot of fun, and I'll see you all on Wednesday. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 18, 2003

RE: [Wlug] Next meeting ...

by Marc Hughes

I got cube working on my laptop over the weekend, it's a lot nicer than I would have thought for a non-commercial FPS. http://wouter.fov120.com/cube/ -Marc -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Wesley Allen Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 7:26 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Next meeting ... I can't do anything 3d on my laptop, Kohan is always nice... Wes On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 11:47, Marc Hughes wrote: > So LAN party next meeting ... I'd love to get into the security stuff > & some of the gaming .. > > But for the gaming ... what are people planning on bringing or > planning on playing? Figure I should get those working on my laptop > before I show up. Personally, I'd love to see the games that you > can't play on windows. > > -Marc > > -- > > www.geek4.com - News by anyone! > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 18, 2003

RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !!

by Stephen C. Daukas

Sorry - I thought I was sending that to just Andy... My bad... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:17 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! We should probably talk about Mad Dog and Linux in education... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:36 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! HI Everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held this coming Wednesday, February 19th, 2003 in a different location. The meeting room will be AK233 (Atwater Kent room 233). Please refer to the Wlug Meetings...Directions link for directions to this room. The building is right next to Salisbury Labs on the WPI campus. Please note the earlier start time of 6:00 PM ! At this meeting, we'll be having a LAN party ! This is WLUG's first LAN party so I'm curious to see what people bring. You'll need to bring your network gear (hubs, switches, cables) and a laptop or desktop machine with networking enabled. We'll interconnect all of the machines to create one big WLUG LAN. I'll bring my PLIP cable for the masochists in the crowd. This network most likely will *not* have access to the Internet (but we'll see what we can do). On this LAN, all sorts of activities could take place, such as multiplayer games, network security scans, attempts to (non-destructively!) crack another persons system to teach them about their security weaknesses, and more. Its really up to all of you and your imaginations as to what we can do with this type of setup. I'll even entertain doing a couple of network based Linux installations if folks want that. If people need help configuring their systems for networking, that help will be available. I'll also be available to do a demonstration of VNC for those interested. The possibilities are really endless. Due to the amount of time to setup such a LAN and still have time to have fun with it, I've extended the time of the WLUG meeting from 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM (note earlier start time!). Have a lot of fun, and I'll see you all on Wednesday. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 18, 2003

RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !!

by Stephen C. Daukas

We should probably talk about Mad Dog and Linux in education... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:36 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! HI Everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held this coming Wednesday, February 19th, 2003 in a different location. The meeting room will be AK233 (Atwater Kent room 233). Please refer to the Wlug Meetings...Directions link for directions to this room. The building is right next to Salisbury Labs on the WPI campus. Please note the earlier start time of 6:00 PM ! At this meeting, we'll be having a LAN party ! This is WLUG's first LAN party so I'm curious to see what people bring. You'll need to bring your network gear (hubs, switches, cables) and a laptop or desktop machine with networking enabled. We'll interconnect all of the machines to create one big WLUG LAN. I'll bring my PLIP cable for the masochists in the crowd. This network most likely will *not* have access to the Internet (but we'll see what we can do). On this LAN, all sorts of activities could take place, such as multiplayer games, network security scans, attempts to (non-destructively!) crack another persons system to teach them about their security weaknesses, and more. Its really up to all of you and your imaginations as to what we can do with this type of setup. I'll even entertain doing a couple of network based Linux installations if folks want that. If people need help configuring their systems for networking, that help will be available. I'll also be available to do a demonstration of VNC for those interested. The possibilities are really endless. Due to the amount of time to setup such a LAN and still have time to have fun with it, I've extended the time of the WLUG meeting from 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM (note earlier start time!). Have a lot of fun, and I'll see you all on Wednesday. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 18, 2003

REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !!

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held this coming Wednesday, February 19th, 2003 in a different location. The meeting room will be AK233 (Atwater Kent room 233). Please refer to the Wlug Meetings...Directions link for directions to this room. The building is right next to Salisbury Labs on the WPI campus. Please note the earlier start time of 6:00 PM ! At this meeting, we'll be having a LAN party ! This is WLUG's first LAN party so I'm curious to see what people bring. You'll need to bring your network gear (hubs, switches, cables) and a laptop or desktop machine with networking enabled. We'll interconnect all of the machines to create one big WLUG LAN. I'll bring my PLIP cable for the masochists in the crowd. This network most likely will *not* have access to the Internet (but we'll see what we can do). On this LAN, all sorts of activities could take place, such as multiplayer games, network security scans, attempts to (non-destructively!) crack another persons system to teach them about their security weaknesses, and more. Its really up to all of you and your imaginations as to what we can do with this type of setup. I'll even entertain doing a couple of network based Linux installations if folks want that. If people need help configuring their systems for networking, that help will be available. I'll also be available to do a demonstration of VNC for those interested. The possibilities are really endless. Due to the amount of time to setup such a LAN and still have time to have fun with it, I've extended the time of the WLUG meeting from 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM (note earlier start time!). Have a lot of fun, and I'll see you all on Wednesday. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 17, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Next meeting ...

by Wesley Allen

I can't do anything 3d on my laptop, Kohan is always nice... Wes On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 11:47, Marc Hughes wrote: > So LAN party next meeting ... I'd love to get into the security stuff & > some of the gaming .. > > But for the gaming ... what are people planning on bringing or planning > on playing? Figure I should get those working on my laptop before I > show up. Personally, I'd love to see the games that you can't play on > windows. > > -Marc > > -- > > www.geek4.com - News by anyone! > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 17, 2003

Next meeting ...

by Marc Hughes

So LAN party next meeting ... I'd love to get into the security stuff & some of the gaming .. But for the gaming ... what are people planning on bringing or planning on playing? Figure I should get those working on my laptop before I show up. Personally, I'd love to see the games that you can't play on windows. -Marc -- www.geek4.com - News by anyone!

Feb. 14, 2003

RE: [Wlug] Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter

by Keller, Tim

I'd suspect that because the thing came with windows drivers that it looks close enough to an MSDOS filesystem that windows won't scream so much, but when it comes to actually interacting with the filesystem/toc on the device it's nothing like that at all... Can you fdisk the device and format it? Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 22:40 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter Hi everybody, My brother-in-law just obtained a Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter (MSAC-FD2MA). You put a memory stick into this "thing" which then plugs into the floppy drive. He put it into the floppy drive and it mounted OK, but 'df' thinks the device is full when indeed its empty. There was a Windows driver supplied with it also. Attempts to copy files to it while mounted failed with errors indicative of no remaining space. Does anybody know anything about this little toy? I can't find anything on the net, but I'll keep looking. It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to figure out and make work with Linux, if one were so inclined. Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 13, 2003

RE: [Wlug] Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter

by Doug Geiger

I think this is related to the FlashPath - the SmartMedia floppy adapter (same idea - slightly different media). I vaguely recall trying to get the binary-only smartdisk module to work - and having some success. According to the press release (http://linuxpr.com/releases/1968.html) - LinuxCare developed the driver - which may also work with the memory stick version. Can't seem to find anyplace to actually download it from though. It was developed for Red Hat 6.1 - kernel 2.2.x - so even if you can find it, it probably won't work with anything recent. -- Doug Geiger runexe(a)bioradiation.net http://bioradiation.net/~runexe/ If you're crossing the nation in a covered wagon, it's better to have four strong oxen than 100 chickens. Chickens are OK but we can't make them work together yet. -- Ross Bott, Pyramid U.S., on multiprocessors at AUUGM '89. GNU Privacy Guard Fingerprint: E06F 00C8 50D3 19FC 6F6B 3F56 6B76 0762 DD37 4686 > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 10:40 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users' Group > Subject: [Wlug] Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter > > > > Hi everybody, > > My brother-in-law just obtained a Sony floppy disk memory > stick adapter > (MSAC-FD2MA). You put a memory stick into this "thing" which > then plugs into > the floppy drive. > > He put it into the floppy drive and it mounted OK, but 'df' > thinks the device > is full when indeed its empty. There was a Windows driver > supplied with it > also. Attempts to copy files to it while mounted failed with errors > indicative of no remaining space. > > Does anybody know anything about this little toy? I can't > find anything on > the net, but I'll keep looking. It doesn't seem like it > would be that hard > to figure out and make work with Linux, if one were so inclined. > > Thanks! > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 13, 2003

Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter

by Andy Stewart

Hi everybody, My brother-in-law just obtained a Sony floppy disk memory stick adapter (MSAC-FD2MA). You put a memory stick into this "thing" which then plugs into the floppy drive. He put it into the floppy drive and it mounted OK, but 'df' thinks the device is full when indeed its empty. There was a Windows driver supplied with it also. Attempts to copy files to it while mounted failed with errors indicative of no remaining space. Does anybody know anything about this little toy? I can't find anything on the net, but I'll keep looking. It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to figure out and make work with Linux, if one were so inclined. Thanks! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 13, 2003