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Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples

by Bill Smith

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:25:15 -0500 "Charles R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > I don't know, but Sempron is AMD's answer to the Celerons. I would > recommend getting a Small Business server Dell PowerEdge 400SC > instead. Those are Hyperthreading Pentium 4's, they work with Linux > (you can get it preinstalled if you like) and you are not paying any > MS-tax. In addition, they have an AGP slot (unadvertised) so you can > use them as a nice Linux desktop if you want. Dell has deals every > once in a while for these systems in the range of $300-400 in their > minimum configurations. Check slickdeals.net for the coupon codes. Geez, Charles... You're starting to sound like a Dell salesman... <g> Are you getting a cut of every 400SC they sell to WLUG members? :D Happy Holidays! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ." -- Patrick Henry, American patriot * TAG! v3.1a *

Dec. 23, 2004

Re: [Wlug] yum repository for Aurora?

by Bill Smith

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 14:58:15 -0400 Brian Waite <linwoes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As fate would have it, I just got my hands on an old Sparc. Thanks to > your mail I found a distro. While perusing the FAQ though I think I > found a pointer to your question. There is an up2date sever and > directions at: http://current-aurora.anthonymendoza.com/ > I hope it works for you. Here hoping I can even get a prompt :) At http://www.auroralinux.org there is a page that walks one through the upgrade process, step-by-step. It even uses Yum. As it happens, WPI has their aurora path yum-ified, so I was able to use that... It's on angus.ind.wpi.edu .... <g> I finally had the time to sit through the whole ordeal, which took a little longer than I would have liked (mostly because important things came up, like interacting with my kids. :) ), but the process was pretty-well documented. Barring any serious problems, it's fairly simple, though time-consuming. If anyone has a SPARC system lying about, you may be interested in playing with this. It's worth a look. For the un-initiated, here's how the Aurora version numbers compare to Red Hat: Aurora version Red Hat version 1.0 7.3 1.91 Fedora Core 1 1.92 Fedora Core 2 I understand from the mailing list that Aurora 2.0 is in the works, which will be bassed on FC3. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "You have to take a speed-yawning course to get through some of this stuff" -- Dan Rather, on the 2004 Democratic National Convention * TAG! v3.1a *

Dec. 23, 2004

Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples; Gary Hanley <gary(a)hanley.net> adds: gary> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Charles R. Anderson wrote: >> Those are Hyperthreading Pentium 4's, gary> Yea, but Hyperthreading is a nice idea that is still somewhat gary> irrelevant at this stage. Even with dual-cores on the horizon there gary> has is lots of optimizations to do before any of this power is gary> utilized. I wouldn't call HT irrelevant. It really depends on your workload. gary> More relevant now is Hypertransport, which for some reason AMD gary> doesn't brag about as must as Intel does for Hyperthreading. As always, it depends. What is the price point? What is the machine actually going to be used for? -Jeff

Dec. 23, 2004

Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples

by Gary Hanley

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Bill Smith wrote: > Geez, Charles... You're starting to sound like a Dell salesman... <g> Are you getting a cut of every 400SC they sell to WLUG members? :D > Happy Holidays! Dell is the Wal-Mart of x86! Death to Dell! :-) -- Gary

Dec. 23, 2004

Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples

by Gary Hanley

Here is the MB: http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socketa/a7v8x-mx/overview.htm and http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?dlc=en&lc=en&product=433683&lan… Actually, with the rebates this looks like a good deal. For myself I usually avoid rebates when possible buy I could be swayed by this one if I was looking for such a box. -- Gary On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > No info in the add about the components, but it's worth noting that > the list price is $450, which is reduced by a $200 "instant rebate" > and a $50 "easy rebate". (I know, I know... it's all advertising > gimmicks.) > > It's model # SR1200NX. Here's a link from Google: > > http://shopping.msn.com/search/detail.aspx?pcId=621&prodId=3123503 > > Bill > > On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 07:00:41AM -0500, Gary Hanley wrote: >> Here's a site that gives you a good overview of AMD processors: >> >> http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=272 >> >> All the AMD processors work fine with Linux, but at that price I'm >> not sure what you are getting. It most likely will be somewhat >> of a dog due to cheapo motherboard/graphics/memory components. >> >> Does it list what those are? >> >> -- Gary >> >> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: >> >>> Staples has a low-priced machine advertised in the Globe: $199.94 for >>> a Compaq Presario with an AMD Sempron processor. Any idea how this >>> might work with Linux? I picked up a cheap Compaq at Walmart a year >>> ago, and I returned it because it was such a dog. >>> >>> TIA, >>> Bill >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 23, 2004

Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples

by Bill Mills-Curran

No info in the add about the components, but it's worth noting that the list price is $450, which is reduced by a $200 "instant rebate" and a $50 "easy rebate". (I know, I know... it's all advertising gimmicks.) It's model # SR1200NX. Here's a link from Google: http://shopping.msn.com/search/detail.aspx?pcId=621&prodId=3123503 Bill On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 07:00:41AM -0500, Gary Hanley wrote: > Here's a site that gives you a good overview of AMD processors: > > http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=272 > > All the AMD processors work fine with Linux, but at that price I'm > not sure what you are getting. It most likely will be somewhat > of a dog due to cheapo motherboard/graphics/memory components. > > Does it list what those are? > > -- Gary > > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > >Staples has a low-priced machine advertised in the Globe: $199.94 for > >a Compaq Presario with an AMD Sempron processor. Any idea how this > >might work with Linux? I picked up a cheap Compaq at Walmart a year > >ago, and I returned it because it was such a dog. > > > >TIA, > >Bill > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 23, 2004

Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples

by Gary Hanley

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > Those are Hyperthreading Pentium 4's, Yea, but Hyperthreading is a nice idea that is still somewhat irrelevant at this stage. Even with dual-cores on the horizon there has is lots of optimizations to do before any of this power is utilized. More relevant now is Hypertransport, which for some reason AMD doesn't brag about as must as Intel does for Hyperthreading. -- Gary

Dec. 23, 2004

Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples

by Gary Hanley

Here's a site that gives you a good overview of AMD processors: http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=272 All the AMD processors work fine with Linux, but at that price I'm not sure what you are getting. It most likely will be somewhat of a dog due to cheapo motherboard/graphics/memory components. Does it list what those are? -- Gary On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Staples has a low-priced machine advertised in the Globe: $199.94 for > a Compaq Presario with an AMD Sempron processor. Any idea how this > might work with Linux? I picked up a cheap Compaq at Walmart a year > ago, and I returned it because it was such a dog. > > TIA, > Bill > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 23, 2004

Re: [Wlug] cheap Compaq at Staples

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:29:45PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Staples has a low-priced machine advertised in the Globe: $199.94 for > a Compaq Presario with an AMD Sempron processor. Any idea how this > might work with Linux? I picked up a cheap Compaq at Walmart a year > ago, and I returned it because it was such a dog. I don't know, but Sempron is AMD's answer to the Celerons. I would recommend getting a Small Business server Dell PowerEdge 400SC instead. Those are Hyperthreading Pentium 4's, they work with Linux (you can get it preinstalled if you like) and you are not paying any MS-tax. In addition, they have an AGP slot (unadvertised) so you can use them as a nice Linux desktop if you want. Dell has deals every once in a while for these systems in the range of $300-400 in their minimum configurations. Check slickdeals.net for the coupon codes.

Dec. 23, 2004

cheap Compaq at Staples

by Bill Mills-Curran

Staples has a low-priced machine advertised in the Globe: $199.94 for a Compaq Presario with an AMD Sempron processor. Any idea how this might work with Linux? I picked up a cheap Compaq at Walmart a year ago, and I returned it because it was such a dog. TIA, Bill

Dec. 23, 2004