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REMINDER: Meeting Thursday, 7 PM

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 HI gang, This is the umpteenth reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting with maddog as our speaker. Please note the different meeting room: Salisbury Labs room 104. Also, for those of you who are interested in music, check this selection, allegedly made only from the sounds available in Windows XP and Windows 98 (at least the OS is good for something): http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1802740 See ya at the meeting! Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFKi27iOjiraCaOTOoRAgQfAKCZ135p2dvbYrlqNaMwj2fKZZ2RxwCg0yqN k+tp+5150cDgkqDHU8Zl0i0= =6WcP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Aug. 19, 2009

PCMCIA to ExpressCard

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

Well, I purchased a Rosewill RC-608 ExpressCard to CardBus Adapter but apparently linux doesn't support it. When I plug it in with the slimscsi card I get: Aug 18 16:15:44 mars kernel: pciehp 0000:00:1c.1:pcie02: Card present on Slot(0-1) Aug 18 16:15:44 mars kernel: pci 0000:03:00.0: disabling ASPM on pre-1.1 PCIe device. You can enable it with 'pcie_aspm=force' Aug 18 16:15:44 mars kernel: pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI bridge, secondary bus 0000:04 Aug 18 16:15:44 mars kernel: pci 0000:03:00.0: IO window: disabled Aug 18 16:15:44 mars kernel: pci 0000:03:00.0: MEM window: disabled Aug 18 16:15:44 mars kernel: pci 0000:03:00.0: PREFETCH window: disabled Aug 18 16:15:44 mars kernel: pciehp: Could not get hotplug parameters Aug 18 16:15:44 mars kernel: pci 0000:03:00.0: PCI bridge, secondary bus 0000:04 Aug 18 16:15:44 mars kernel: pci 0000:03:00.0: IO window: disabled Aug 18 16:15:44 mars kernel: pci 0000:03:00.0: MEM window: disabled Aug 18 16:15:44 mars kernel: pci 0000:03:00.0: PREFETCH window: disabled I'm assuming "pciehp: Could not get hotplug parameters" means it is not supported. If anyone has suggestions on how to get it to work let me know. Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

Aug. 18, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Fedora 11 and mingw32

by Mike Frysinger

On Friday 14 August 2009 13:57:54 Tatsh wrote: > Mingw32 on Linux is impossible unless you want to do simple Win32 stuff > like calling MessageBox() and running the exe with Wine. I would love to > be able to build Qt4 and SDL apps for Windows under Linux (I use Gentoo) > but it seems it always fails miserably, even when copying libs and > headers from a Windows installation of Mingw. I just run a VM and > compile there, either with gcc or cl (Visual Studio). i use mingw to build large projects frequently like cross toolchains, graphical debuggers, USB debuggers, and havent had any real problems i cant tell you anything about using cmake as everything i do is autotool based and it works just fine -mike

Aug. 16, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Fedora 11 and mingw32

by dulsi＠identicalsoftware.com

Quoting Tatsh <ddrtist(a)gmail.com>: > Mingw32 on Linux is impossible... I hate it when people tell me things are impossible. cmake can't be fixed without changing the FindSDL.cmake. I'd probably have to fix the finding of expat, physfs, and png since I use them as well. Rather than go down that rabbit hole, I started with my existing make file. Hardcoded SDL_FLAGS to -I/usr/i686-pc-mingw32/sys-root/mingw/include/SDL/ instead of running sdl-config. Needed to add mingw32 and SDLmain to the link line. Since compiling SDL_image with mingw32 cross compiler doesn't work with the configure script, I stripped the png loading code and put that directly in my source. Viola everything compiles, runs with wine and runs on my wife's windows box. The project is Bt Builder. It is an open source implementation of the Bard's Tale Construction Set (or at least the beginnings of one). http://identicalsoftware.com/btbuilder/ Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com

Aug. 16, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Book list with names.

by Tim Keller

It's yours! On 8/15/09, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I would like to claim "Web Hacking: Attacks and Defense" as it looks > like nobody else has yet. > > >> Hacking / Security Books: >> "Secrets of a super hacker" by The Knightmare. >> [S. Courtney] "Hackers Challenge: Test Your Incident Response Skills >> Using 20 Scenarios" (3rd Edition) >> [S. Courtney] "Hacking Exposed: Network Security Secrets & Solutions" > "Web Hacking: Attacks and Defense" >> >> Math Books: >> [Frank Moody] "Discrete Mathematics and Its Applications" by Kenneth H. >> Rosen >> [Frank Moody] "Languages and Machines" Thomas A Sudkamp >> [Alex Haley] "A Primer for Calculus" >> >> Misc: >> [Alex Haley] "Latex" Second edition >> [Frank Moody] "The Latex Companion" >> [Frank Moody] "Mips RISC Architecture" >> "Database Systems" >> "Creating Web Pages with HTML" (3rd edition) >> [Frank Moody] "Operating Systems: Design and Implementation": Tanenbaum >> (includes Minux 2.0 disk!!) >> [Frank Moody] "PCI System Architecture" (Third Edition) >> >> Programming Books: >> [Alex Haley] "The C Primer" Third edition (this book is a bit dog eared) >> [Alex Haley] "A First Book of Ansi C" (a bit dog eared but excellent) >> "Tricks of the Game Programming Gurus" >> "Practical Programming in Tcl and Tk" >> "Virtual Reality Playhouse" >> "Creating Turbo C++ Games" (The disk for this book is long lost) >> [Keith Wright] "Linux Kernel Programming" (Third Edition) >> "Using Java 1.1" (Third Edition) >> "Using JavaBeans" (CD Long gone) >> [S. Courtney] "Sams' Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days" (Second Edition) >> "Beginning Fedora 2" (Yeah it's 8 versions behind, but as a beginners >> guide to red hat linux systems, it's great) >> "User Interfaces In C++ And Object-Oriented Programming" by Mark Goodwin >> "Gardens of Imagination: Programming 3d Maze Games in C/C++" (Disk long >> gone) >> "NetWarriors In C Programming 3d Multiplaery games" (CD Long gone) >> [Ryan Pugatch] "Programming perl" (O'Reilly) >> [Ryan Pugatch] "Learning Perl" (O'Reilly) >> [Ryan Pugatch] "Perl by Example" (Ellie Quigley) >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. > -- > Eric Martin > Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F > > -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Aug. 15, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Book list with names.

by Eric Martin

I would like to claim "Web Hacking: Attacks and Defense" as it looks like nobody else has yet. > Hacking / Security Books: > "Secrets of a super hacker" by The Knightmare. > [S. Courtney] "Hackers Challenge: Test Your Incident Response Skills > Using 20 Scenarios" (3rd Edition) > [S. Courtney] "Hacking Exposed: Network Security Secrets & Solutions" "Web Hacking: Attacks and Defense" > > Math Books: > [Frank Moody] "Discrete Mathematics and Its Applications" by Kenneth H. > Rosen > [Frank Moody] "Languages and Machines" Thomas A Sudkamp > [Alex Haley] "A Primer for Calculus" > > Misc: > [Alex Haley] "Latex" Second edition > [Frank Moody] "The Latex Companion" > [Frank Moody] "Mips RISC Architecture" > "Database Systems" > "Creating Web Pages with HTML" (3rd edition) > [Frank Moody] "Operating Systems: Design and Implementation": Tanenbaum > (includes Minux 2.0 disk!!) > [Frank Moody] "PCI System Architecture" (Third Edition) > > Programming Books: > [Alex Haley] "The C Primer" Third edition (this book is a bit dog eared) > [Alex Haley] "A First Book of Ansi C" (a bit dog eared but excellent) > "Tricks of the Game Programming Gurus" > "Practical Programming in Tcl and Tk" > "Virtual Reality Playhouse" > "Creating Turbo C++ Games" (The disk for this book is long lost) > [Keith Wright] "Linux Kernel Programming" (Third Edition) > "Using Java 1.1" (Third Edition) > "Using JavaBeans" (CD Long gone) > [S. Courtney] "Sams' Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days" (Second Edition) > "Beginning Fedora 2" (Yeah it's 8 versions behind, but as a beginners > guide to red hat linux systems, it's great) > "User Interfaces In C++ And Object-Oriented Programming" by Mark Goodwin > "Gardens of Imagination: Programming 3d Maze Games in C/C++" (Disk long > gone) > "NetWarriors In C Programming 3d Multiplaery games" (CD Long gone) > [Ryan Pugatch] "Programming perl" (O'Reilly) > [Ryan Pugatch] "Learning Perl" (O'Reilly) > [Ryan Pugatch] "Perl by Example" (Ellie Quigley) > > Thanks, > Tim. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F

Aug. 15, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Building a System

by Jim Dibb

Good points. I used a Live-thumb-drive to preview eeebuntu. Of course it was also really the only way to install it. No CD on an Asus 901... :) On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:26 PM, J.R. Mauro <jrm8005(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Jim Dibb<jimdibb(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I just wanted to comment that installing Windows 7 is a significantly > > improved experience and its relative difficulty is probably not a selling > > point for Linux. > > It is still a far cry from being able to use a Live CD and verify that > the entire system will work perfectly before committing to an > installation. Also, what I like to call the ``post-install blues'' > have not yet been addressed in Windows: i.e., installing a sane > browser, office software, etc. etc. > > > > > >

Aug. 15, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Building a System

by J.R. Mauro

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Jim Dibb<jimdibb(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I just wanted to comment that installing Windows 7 is a significantly > improved experience and its relative difficulty is probably not a selling > point for Linux. It is still a far cry from being able to use a Live CD and verify that the entire system will work perfectly before committing to an installation. Also, what I like to call the ``post-install blues'' have not yet been addressed in Windows: i.e., installing a sane browser, office software, etc. etc. > > Linux has plenty of other selling points and I've installed eeebuntu- NBR > 3.01 on my wife's netbook, and it works really well but not perfectly. The > installation was not foolproof though ( because a certain fool botched it > without realizing it for about 2 months.) And some of the settings (acpi, > for example) still need to modified in a text editor. A well-flogged dead horse of a point: at least when things don't work you can find out why and where and fix them by hand as opposed to not at all. > > Windows 7 on my quad core is not perfect either, (native backup is > problematic, and something's keeping native DVD burning from working) but it > also works really well. There are draconian restrictions on DVD codecs that may or may not have an impact on Windows's ability to do things right. Linux generally lets you do these things in a technically illegal manner depending on where you are and where the person writing the open-source codecs is. The new-fangled DRM-enabled hardware these days may also have something to do with it. > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Sean Flynn <sflynn(a)flynnsplaza.com> wrote: >> >> I was wondering about why the original poster wanted to buy a system >> with FreeBSD/Linux installed by the manufacturer. Was the intent to >> support a freebsd/Linux friendly vendor, or was it to make everything >> easier. >> >> If possible I like to support Linux friendly vendor. But I can easily >> say that installing Linux is incredibly easy, especially when compared >> to installing windows, I don't know if you can justify extra cost just >> to support a Linux friendly vendor. >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 14, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Building a System

by Jim Dibb

I just wanted to comment that installing Windows 7 is a significantly improved experience and its relative difficulty is probably not a selling point for Linux. Linux has plenty of other selling points and I've installed eeebuntu- NBR 3.01 on my wife's netbook, and it works really well but not perfectly. The installation was not foolproof though ( because a certain fool botched it without realizing it for about 2 months.) And some of the settings (acpi, for example) still need to modified in a text editor. Windows 7 on my quad core is not perfect either, (native backup is problematic, and something's keeping native DVD burning from working) but it also works really well. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Sean Flynn <sflynn(a)flynnsplaza.com> wrote: > I was wondering about why the original poster wanted to buy a system > with FreeBSD/Linux installed by the manufacturer. Was the intent to > support a freebsd/Linux friendly vendor, or was it to make everything > easier. > > If possible I like to support Linux friendly vendor. But I can easily > say that installing Linux is incredibly easy, especially when compared > to installing windows, I don't know if you can justify extra cost just > to support a Linux friendly vendor. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 14, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Building a System

by Sean Flynn

I was wondering about why the original poster wanted to buy a system with FreeBSD/Linux installed by the manufacturer. Was the intent to support a freebsd/Linux friendly vendor, or was it to make everything easier. If possible I like to support Linux friendly vendor. But I can easily say that installing Linux is incredibly easy, especially when compared to installing windows, I don't know if you can justify extra cost just to support a Linux friendly vendor.

Aug. 14, 2009