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Re: Rough upgrade to FC4

by Joshua D. Abraham

On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 10:24:43PM -0500, nmeyers(a)javalinux.net wrote: > On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 10:13:27PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > I just upgraded to FC4 from FC3 and I had some troubles that should > > not have happened. My FC3 system was current with updates, and I used > > downloaded ISO's from fedora. The problem was that many of the FC3 > > packages were more up to date than the FC4 packages, so the upgrade > > did not install them. This included the kernel. I felt lucky that I > > had a workable system. > > Sorry to hear things haven't gotten any better since my days as > an RH user (pre-RH9). I never experienced a smooth upgrade; sometimes > had to just rebuild the system. > Agreed. I have been using Redhat since 6.2. I had partitions setup the following way /boot / swap /home /usr/local/ This way I can keep the users data and just install a new system over it. I think that Debian's method of package management is the best of any of the Linux Distro's. I a year ago I switched from FC3 to Ubuntu because Ubuntu has a 6 month release cycle, similar to FC and Ubuntu pays individuals to fix security vulnerabilities. --Josh > I drifted from RH to Mandrake (pre-Mandriva) and then to Gentoo. > Though not without the occasional bump, I've found Gentoo's approach to > package management the least violent of them all. > > Nathan > > > > > Running up2date did not help -- I was still in an FC3 system (kind of). > > > > I manually installed the FC4 kernel and ran up2date again, but it was > > stuck on many packages, because up2date only wanted to freshen > > existing rpm's -- it didn't want to add any new ones to solve > > dependencies. > > > > After much arm-wrestling (floundering?), I gave up on the GUI up2date > > and ran with the command line, feeding it chunks of rpms that needed > > updating. > > > > I feel lucky that I didn't brick my system. What did I do wrong? > > This must be a common occurance. I have another system that I need to > > upgrade, but I don't want it to go like this. What's a better way? > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > Discuss(a)blu.org > > http://olduvai.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss(a)blu.org > http://olduvai.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Jan. 22, 2006

Rough upgrade to FC4

by Bill Mills-Curran

I just upgraded to FC4 from FC3 and I had some troubles that should not have happened. My FC3 system was current with updates, and I used downloaded ISO's from fedora. The problem was that many of the FC3 packages were more up to date than the FC4 packages, so the upgrade did not install them. This included the kernel. I felt lucky that I had a workable system. Running up2date did not help -- I was still in an FC3 system (kind of). I manually installed the FC4 kernel and ran up2date again, but it was stuck on many packages, because up2date only wanted to freshen existing rpm's -- it didn't want to add any new ones to solve dependencies. After much arm-wrestling (floundering?), I gave up on the GUI up2date and ran with the command line, feeding it chunks of rpms that needed updating. I feel lucky that I didn't brick my system. What did I do wrong? This must be a common occurance. I have another system that I need to upgrade, but I don't want it to go like this. What's a better way? Thanks, Bill

Jan. 22, 2006

Re: [Wlug] SSH Tunneling?

by Mike Frysinger

On Friday 20 January 2006 14:28, Michael Zarozinski wrote: > I'm in the process of moving a web site, msql db, and some game daemons > to a new server. While the DNS transfer is in process we want all > traffic to go to the new server. I've been told this can be done vial > ssh tunnels but don't have any experience.... can anyone point me in the > right direction? read `man ssh` ... then when the directions are a little hard to grok, use these examples: ssh -L 1234:localhost:25 vapier(a)wh0rd.org -N -f this will create a ssh tunnel from my localhost:1234 to remote wh0rd.org:25 and after authentication is finished, the ssh process will detach > Do I need to set up a tunnel for every port on the old > server (the games open ports)? How is it set up to run all the time? Do > I need to mess with sshd_config? i'm pretty sure ssh can only tunnel tcp ports, not udp, so you'd be out of luck ... also, all communication would be encrypted, so you would see a perf hit in terms of how much data you can move -mike

Jan. 22, 2006

Subject: Re: [Wlug] Trial By Fire

by Tom Misilo

for all mozilla packages visit their project dir heres a link for thunderbird http://suse.cs.utah.edu/projects/mozilla/thunderbird/1.5/ for all the mozilla stuff http://suse.cs.utah.edu/projects/mozilla/ Tom > On 1/21/06, Marie MacDonald <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Do downloadable software packages for Linux come with intallers? > > It depends. Many do but some require a few more steps. If you stick > with installing SW via yast, you'll have the easiest time. > > > Can anyone help with advice for YaSt? Is my issue with the Thunderbird > > 1.5 package perhaps? > > Perhaps the recent Novell distro is different, but I've never seen > Thunderbird in the Yast repository (I'm still using SuSE 9.3). > Anytime I want Firefox or Thunderbird, I go direct to > http://www.mozilla.com and download it there. What you download there > has an installer built in. > > > Quite frankly if it's this hard (frustrating!) to install software, I'm > > not gonna be a happy gal. I still have other things I want to add to > > this snappy little computer (i.e. my Palm) but darn there's gotta be an > > easier way. Spring semester starts 26 January and I need this up and > > running. > > You sound determined and that's probably the most important trait for > someone trying to stick with Linux. Stick with YaST as much as > possible and post here for other specific questions--we'll get you > through. > > BR

Jan. 22, 2006

Perl Unicode question

by Skip Gaede

Folks, I'm trying to understand how Unicode works in Perl 5.8.7, and things are not working the way they're described in perluniintro. In particular, I have a file encoded in UTF-8 from Perl, that I want to convert to Windows Unicode (UCS-16LE). The intro provides this snippet for converting from one character set to another: open(my $nihongo, '<:encoding(iso2022-jp)', 'text.jis'); open(my $unicode, '>:utf8', 'text.utf8'); while (<$nihongo>) { print $unicode } When I try that, substituting UTF-8 and ':encoding(UTF-16LE)', I get no warnings, but the output has twice as many characters as it should have and they are all NULLs. I can supply a my UTF-8 file if anyone wants to have a try. In particular, I think the fact that I have embedded apostrophes (0x27) encoded as RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK (0x2019) may be part of the problem. Thanks, Skip

Jan. 21, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Trial By Fire

by Jared Greenwald

If you're not particularly married to SuSE, I'd say to give ubuntu a try. It has about the best package management out there (second only to Gentoo's portage, imho). On 1/21/06, Brett Russ <bruss(a)alum.wpi.edu> wrote: > On 1/21/06, Marie MacDonald <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Do downloadable software packages for Linux come with intallers? > > It depends. Many do but some require a few more steps. If you stick > with installing SW via yast, you'll have the easiest time. > > > Can anyone help with advice for YaSt? Is my issue with the Thunderbird > > 1.5 package perhaps? > > Perhaps the recent Novell distro is different, but I've never seen > Thunderbird in the Yast repository (I'm still using SuSE 9.3). > Anytime I want Firefox or Thunderbird, I go direct to > http://www.mozilla.com and download it there. What you download there > has an installer built in. > > > Quite frankly if it's this hard (frustrating!) to install software, I'm > > not gonna be a happy gal. I still have other things I want to add to > > this snappy little computer (i.e. my Palm) but darn there's gotta be an > > easier way. Spring semester starts 26 January and I need this up and > > running. > > You sound determined and that's probably the most important trait for > someone trying to stick with Linux. Stick with YaST as much as > possible and post here for other specific questions--we'll get you > through. > > BR > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 21, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Trial By Fire

by Brett Russ

On 1/21/06, Marie MacDonald <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Do downloadable software packages for Linux come with intallers? It depends. Many do but some require a few more steps. If you stick with installing SW via yast, you'll have the easiest time. > Can anyone help with advice for YaSt? Is my issue with the Thunderbird > 1.5 package perhaps? Perhaps the recent Novell distro is different, but I've never seen Thunderbird in the Yast repository (I'm still using SuSE 9.3). Anytime I want Firefox or Thunderbird, I go direct to http://www.mozilla.com and download it there. What you download there has an installer built in. > Quite frankly if it's this hard (frustrating!) to install software, I'm > not gonna be a happy gal. I still have other things I want to add to > this snappy little computer (i.e. my Palm) but darn there's gotta be an > easier way. Spring semester starts 26 January and I need this up and > running. You sound determined and that's probably the most important trait for someone trying to stick with Linux. Stick with YaST as much as possible and post here for other specific questions--we'll get you through. BR

Jan. 21, 2006

Trial By Fire

by Marie MacDonald

Greetings All! You may recall a while back I was asking questions about Linux laptops and video capture and editing software for Linux As luck would have it, I was given a shiny new (well, slightly used) Linux desktop compuer. It is running the Novell distro (see I'm learning!!) and I'm loving it. As fate would have it, my laptop died two days ago and this Linux system is all I have left. I no longer have the luxury of time to fiddle and learn. I am working my way through that Novell Linux Desktop free online training, but for some reason that's not allowing me to log in. That's not my question though. No matter how hard I try, I can't install software. I have read the manual and I know how to log in to the root system and activate YaST. I was trying to install Thunderbird 1.5. But I'm enjoying using Evolution, so perhaps I'll forgo Thunderbird for now. I just could not get YaST to recognize or "see" the Thunderbird package. I even figured out "change source of installation", all to no avail. Do downloadable software packages for Linux come with intallers? Can anyone help with advice for YaSt? Is my issue with the Thunderbird 1.5 package perhaps? Quite frankly if it's this hard (frustrating!) to install software, I'm not gonna be a happy gal. I still have other things I want to add to this snappy little computer (i.e. my Palm) but darn there's gotta be an easier way. Spring semester starts 26 January and I need this up and running. Thanks for any advice, support, shoulders to cry on Marie mimsresearch(a)gmail.com

Jan. 21, 2006

SSH Tunneling?

by Michael Zarozinski

Hi all, I'm in the process of moving a web site, msql db, and some game daemons to a new server. While the DNS transfer is in process we want all traffic to go to the new server. I've been told this can be done vial ssh tunnels but don't have any experience.... can anyone point me in the right direction? Do I need to set up a tunnel for every port on the old server (the games open ports)? How is it set up to run all the time? Do I need to mess with sshd_config? Any and all help is appreciated! Thanx! Michael Z

Jan. 20, 2006

For Sale: Alpha PWS 600AU

by Phillip G Deneault

600mhz Alpha with 384megs of ram. On board sound and LAN. This is a REAL AU model, with the qlogic SCSI card and the powerstorm video card(in case you wanted to run OpenVMS). I would recommend using a different video card or using the serial console for anything BSD or Linux. I believe it has a 9 gig SCSI disk in it, but I've suplemented it with a 50gig IDE drive on the IDE chain. I've also replaced the IDE CD-ROM with an 68-pin SCSI CD-ROM(yes, thats right, 68-pin). I also have all the original docs with it. I installed OpenBSD 3.8 on it to verify everything works. $100 bucks or best offer(I'm flexible on the price). If anyone has any questions, or wishes to haggle, please reply to me(and not the list, they hate that). I'm just trying to find it a good home. Thanks, Phil

Jan. 19, 2006