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Re: [Wlug] New computer - dual boot - question

by Jared Greenwald

Ken, Can you be more specific about what you mean when you say you want to be more familiar with X? If you want to learn all about X, I'd suggest Gentoo as it's DIY nature allows you to learn a lot about the underlying components of the OS. If you just want Linux, then Fedora or Ubuntu work well. Depends on what exactly you are looking to achieve... -Jared On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > WLUGers, > > I have purchased a new DELL desktop. I want to refamiliarize myself with X. > I intend to dual boot the machine. Would my best selection for Linux be > Fedora 16 (or whatever they are up to now)? If not, which do you suggest? > > Ken Jones > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Oct. 12, 2011

Re: [Wlug] New computer - dual boot - question

by Randall Mason

If you need to learn everything about X, go for a do it yourself distro like gentoo. If you need to relearn how to use X, Fedora or Ubuntu would work fine, or even cygwin x on Windows would do that. On Oct 12, 2011 7:38 PM, "Ken Jones" <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > ** > WLUGers, > > I have purchased a new DELL desktop. I want to refamiliarize myself with > X. I intend to dual boot the machine. Would my best selection for Linux be > Fedora 16 (or whatever they are up to now)? If not, which do you suggest? > > Ken Jones > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Oct. 12, 2011

New computer - dual boot - question

by Ken Jones

WLUGers, I have purchased a new DELL desktop. I want to refamiliarize myself with X. I intend to dual boot the machine. Would my best selection for Linux be Fedora 16 (or whatever they are up to now)? If not, which do you suggest? Ken Jones

Oct. 12, 2011

wlug/MeeGo tonite wed oct12

by Doug Mildram

doug> all confirmed and the oct5 quote below still accurate!...I'll be hosting: cra> ..WLUG meeting is Wednesday, October 12 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf This month, Andy Stewart will be giving a talk & demo of MeeGo, a Linux distribution designed for Netbooks, Tablets, and other smaller devices. After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. ---- doug> bring $1,$5's! for cash pizza/drinks..usually ~$6.

Oct. 12, 2011

Announce: WLUG Meeting Wednesday 10/12 7PM: MeeGo

by Chuck Anderson

Hi folks, Our next WLUG meeting is Wednesday, October 12 at 7:00 PM at the WPI campus in Worcester, MA USA. The meeting room is in WPI's Morgan Hall (building 'H' on the campus map [1]), down the hallway to the right of the dining hall entrance. [1] http://www.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/WPI/walkingmap.pdf This month, Andy Stewart will be giving a talk & demo of MeeGo, a Linux distribution designed for Netbooks, Tablets, and other smaller devices. After the meeting, we'll go out for pizza. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it to the October meeting. Doug Mildram has agreed to run the meeting for us this month--thanks Doug! Chuck President, Worcester Linux Users' Group

Oct. 5, 2011

Re: [Wlug] 2nd hard drive problem

by Tim Keller

Ken, If you're getting "IO failure", then you've quite likely got a bad hard drive... I'd load the smart tools and test the disk to see if it's got bad sectors. Here's a like to Western Digitals website for your drive. They've got some tools you can download to test the drive as well. http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?modelno=WD1600AAJB&x=11&y=10 Thanks, Tim. On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Ken Jones <kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > Thank you, Chuck. Lot's more information here. Suggestions? > > [root@pacman mnt]# dmesg | grep hdb > ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA > hdb: WDC WD1600AAJB-00J3A0, ATA DISK drive > hdb: max request size: 512KiB > hdb: 312581808 sectors (160041 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=19457/255/63, > UDMA(66) > hdb: cache flushes supported > hdb: hdb1 hdb2 > EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal > SELinux: initialized (dev hdb1, type ext3), uses xattr > EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_update_dynamic_rev: updating to rev > 1 because of new feature flag, running e2fsck is recommended > EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal > SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_new_inode: reserved inode or inode > > inodes count - block_group = 0, inode=1 > Aborting journal on device hdb2. > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_new_inode: IO failure > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_create: IO failure > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted > journal > EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_clear_journal_err: Filesystem error > recorded from previous mount: IO failure > EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_clear_journal_err: Marking fs in > need of filesystem check. > EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal > SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr > EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal > SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_new_inode: reserved inode or inode > > inodes count - block_group = 0, inode=2 > Aborting journal on device hdb2. > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_new_inode: IO failure > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_create: IO failure > EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted > journal > [root@pacman mnt]# > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Sept. 19, 2011

2nd hard drive problem

by Ken Jones

Thank you, Chuck. Lot's more information here. Suggestions? [root@pacman mnt]# dmesg | grep hdb ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA hdb: WDC WD1600AAJB-00J3A0, ATA DISK drive hdb: max request size: 512KiB hdb: 312581808 sectors (160041 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=19457/255/63, UDMA(66) hdb: cache flushes supported hdb: hdb1 hdb2 EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb1, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_update_dynamic_rev: updating to rev 1 because of new feature flag, running e2fsck is recommended EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_new_inode: reserved inode or inode > inodes count - block_group = 0, inode=1 Aborting journal on device hdb2. EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_new_inode: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_create: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_clear_journal_err: Filesystem error recorded from previous mount: IO failure EXT3-fs warning (device hdb2): ext3_clear_journal_err: Marking fs in need of filesystem check. EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3 FS on hdb2, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb2, type ext3), uses xattr EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_new_inode: reserved inode or inode > inodes count - block_group = 0, inode=2 Aborting journal on device hdb2. EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_new_inode: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2) in ext3_create: IO failure EXT3-fs error (device hdb2): ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal [root@pacman mnt]#

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Wlug] More on my 2nd hard drive problem

by Chuck Anderson

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 05:57:57PM -0400, Ken Jones wrote: > The problem with your attempts to help may be > in that my Fedora is soooo old. It is Fedora 4. This > second disk has/had? Fedora 6, but it never worked > correctly. > > Here is the result of grep'ng all of /var/log/dmesg Please type this command exactly like this: dmesg | grep hdb and post the output. It is not the same as /var/log/dmesg.

Sept. 19, 2011

More on my 2nd hard drive problem

by Ken Jones

The problem with your attempts to help may be in that my Fedora is soooo old. It is Fedora 4. This second disk has/had? Fedora 6, but it never worked correctly. Here is the result of grep'ng all of /var/log/dmesg [root@pacman graphics]# more /var/log/dmesg | grep hdb ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd000-0xd007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA hdb: WDC WD1600AAJB-00J3A0, ATA DISK drive hdb: max request size: 512KiB hdb: 312581808 sectors (160041 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=19457/255/63, UDMA(66) hdb: cache flushes supported hdb: hdb1 hdb2 EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal SELinux: initialized (dev hdb1, type ext3), uses xattr [root@pacman graphics]# I do not understand what the above is saying. ---------------------- /var/log/messages has no references to hdb [root@pacman graphics]# ls -l /var/log/messages -rw------- 1 root root 16410 Sep 18 16:13 /var/log/messages [root@pacman graphics]# more /var/log/messages | grep hdb [root@pacman graphics]# ---------------------- smartonttools does not install. [root@pacman graphics]# yum install smartmontools Setting up Install Process Setting up repositories Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: updates-released Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: updates-released [root@pacman graphics]# ---------------------- I tried... [root@pacman graphics]# vgchange -a y 2 logical volume(s) in volume group "VolGroup00" now active ---------------------- I do not want SELinux, It is just there. I'll try to eliminate it. Ken

Sept. 18, 2011

Re: [Wlug] Problem with second hard drive.

by Randall Mason

No, I'm guessing he showed the right messages. His messages had SELinux in them, which to me spells headache and heartbreak. Try flipping off SELinux: http://www.crypt.gen.nz/selinux/disable_selinux.html If that gets things working, then you need to either decide to become and SELinux expert and then post your root password on the internet like so many others, or you need to permanently disable it. Having it in permissive mode though will allow you to see what SELinux roles need what permissions in the logs for what you are doing, if you decide to go the way of heartbreak and headache. Good luck. Randall Mason * * * * On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 09:50:36PM -0400, Ken Jones wrote: > > [root@pacman graphics]# tail /var/log/dmesg > > md: autorun ... > > md: ... autorun DONE. > > EXT3 FS on dm-0, internal journal > > kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds > > EXT3 FS on hdb1, internal journal > > EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. > > SELinux: initialized (dev hdb1, type ext3), uses xattr > > SELinux: initialized (dev tmpfs, type tmpfs), uses transition SIDs > > Adding 524280k swap on /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01. Priority:-1 extents:1 > > across:524280k > > SELinux: initialized (dev binfmt_misc, type binfmt_misc), uses > > genfs_contexts > > [root@pacman graphics]# > > > > ----------------------- > > I have no idea what dmesg is talking about. The data seems to > > match the 'mount' statement and yesterday's date, Sept 15th. > > Yes, but was does "dmesg | grep hdb" say? That will search the entire > dmesg output for anything related to hdb, rather than just showing the > last 10 lines of dmesg which you posted above. dmesg shows all > "recent" kernel log messages. They may also be in /var/log/messages, > so you can show that too: > > grep hdb /var/log/messages > > Another thing to try is a S.M.A.R.T. test on the hard drive: > > Install the package: > > yum install smartmontools > > Post this output: > > smartctl -a /dev/hdb > smartctl -l selftest /dev/hdb > > Perform a short test: > > smartctl -t short /dev/hdb > > (wait until short test is completed--it will say on the screen when > that will be) > > Show test results again: > > smartctl -l selftest /dev/hdb > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 17, 2011