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Re: New WLUG web site

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Lam via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: So I've updated the about page to spell out Tim's email. We should probably make it 'president(a)wlug.org' instead down the line. And it looks like Tim has removed the out of date "Meetup group" stuff since we're not using or paying for it any more. John > Minor fix but of big importance: the "please contact Tim Keller" on the About > page has no link or better a text-based obfuscated e-mail address associated > with it. On the home page, the "WLUG now has a Meetup group: URL" doesn't link > anywhere either. > Cheers, > Michael > On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 2:02 PM Joe Sherman via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > Looks ok to me > On Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 1:53 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > Guys, > I'm working on migrating the old WLUG website from the old non-https > server to a new Ubuntu 24.04 LTS based system with proper HTTPs > support, and using the 'grav' flatfile CMS for simpler management. > Can people take a look at 'https://wlug.stoffel.org' and give me some > feedback on how they like the look? Or do we really care? > Cheers, > John > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/BHA6G… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/5XMDT… > -- > Michael Lam, Ph.D. > astromlam(a)gmail.com > Research Scientist > Carl Sagan Center for Research > SETI Institute > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/23IT6…

Sept. 9, 2026

Re: New WLUG web site

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Lam via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Minor fix but of big importance: the "please contact Tim Keller" on the About > page has no link or better a text-based obfuscated e-mail address associated > with it. On the home page, the "WLUG now has a Meetup group: URL" doesn't link > anywhere either. I'll fix this up! > Cheers, > Michael > On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 2:02 PM Joe Sherman via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > Looks ok to me > On Wed, Mar 25, 2026, 1:53 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > Guys, > I'm working on migrating the old WLUG website from the old non-https > server to a new Ubuntu 24.04 LTS based system with proper HTTPs > support, and using the 'grav' flatfile CMS for simpler management. > Can people take a look at 'https://wlug.stoffel.org' and give me some > feedback on how they like the look? Or do we really care? > Cheers, > John > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/BHA6G… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/5XMDT… > -- > Michael Lam, Ph.D. > astromlam(a)gmail.com > Research Scientist > Carl Sagan Center for Research > SETI Institute > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/23IT6…

Sept. 9, 2026

Next Meeting!! Sept. 10th, 2026: Topic: Andy's Ham Radio Linux! Speaker: Andy Stewart

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, Here's the details for our next meeting: Date / Time: 2026-09-10 @7PM Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland Ave, Worcester MA. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: Andy's Ham Radio Linux Speaker: Andy Stewart WLUG Founder Andy Stewart will be giving a talk about "Andy's Ham Radio Linux", a popular collection of Free and Open Source Software related to ham radio. You need not know much (if anything) about ham radio to benefit from this talk. Andy will present a high level overview of things that are done with ham radios, and how Linux software helps with the enjoyment of the hobby. Andy Stewart holds an Amateur Extra class ham radio license (KB1OIQ), and has been active in that hobby for 20 years. He has been a Linux enthusiast since the late 1990s. After retiring from a long and successful career as a digital logic verification engineer in 2024, Andy has spent a lot more time promoting Linux and ham radio. As usual after the meeting we'll head off for dinner to keep the conversation going! A couple people have asked about parking.. You can park in the parking lot next to Technocopia that has the loading docks. Thanks, Tim.

Sept. 3, 2026

Reminder! WLUG Meeting This Thursday (August 13th), Topic: Kali Linux

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting this week! Date & Time: August 13th, 2026 @ 7PM Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: Kali Linux You need to hack yourself! Seriously. You only need to look at the news to see that every attack surface that can be touched and exploited is actively being targeted. Sure you could go find a dozen different tools and get them all installed and configured.. Or.. you could use Kali Linux: https://www.kali.org/ This is a one-stop-shop for pen testing. I'm going to show off some of the tools and features. As usual, after the meeting we'll head off to dinner and keep the conversation going. Thanks, Tim.

Aug. 12, 2026

Meeting this Thursday! July 9th, 2026 @7PM, Topic: Rust!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting this week! Date / Time: Thursday July 9th @7PM Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: Rust Programming Language! Long time WLUGer Evan White will be giving a talk on the Rust programming language. Rust recently became a first class citizen in the linux kernel. Designed from the ground up to be type and memory safe it's the new cool kid on the block. Evan will be showing off what he's been doing with rust to wildly extend the functionality of the kobo e-reader. This talk will be oriented towards people who've never used rust before so he'll be getting into the brass tacks and showing us all why we should all abandon our crappy unsafe languages and go all in on rust! As usual after the meeting we'll head out for dinner and keep up the conversation. I hope to see you all there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 7, 2026

Reminder! WLUG Meeting June 11th @ 7PM Location: Techncopia

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting this Thursday, June 11th @7PM. Topic: TBD (Hit me up here or on Signal) Location: Technocopia Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA We'll definitely be talking about the continuing spate of Linux kernel vulnerabilities. Supply chain attacks on npm / pypi / etc. As usual, we'll head out for dinner and keep the conversation going. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

June 9, 2026

Re: Keith's mail issue

by Keith Wright

Thank you much for your incredibly prompt and detailed reply. Dick Goodman via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > This is all analogous to what I use successfully for my wife. I can successfully send a message to one or two gmail (or yahoo, hotmail...) addresses, the problem comes with the mailing list, which has about 50 @gmail.com. That sets them off. > To your points: > 1) I forward her incoming stuff (successfully) to Gmail with Procmail I don't know Procmail. Will look into it (ironically by google). > 2) I appreciate that everything worked for 20 years. When I get too nostalgic I think about my long lost draft card. -- Keith

May 31, 2026

Re: Keith's mail issue

by Dick Goodman

This is all analogous to what I use successfully for my wife. To your points: 1) skip the include if you like. My wife has aliased her mail on several domains to Google so she can mail from her phone I only provide her POP not IMAP. I forward her incoming stuff (successfully) to Gmail with Procmail 2) I appreciate that everything worked for 20 years. It did here also, until the last 2 years when Google and Yahoo (who now also does mail for AOL and Verizon) started changing the rules for what they would accept. Took me months. Still issues with Yahoo. Have read they don't follow the standards. 3) You must have an "a:" section in your spf record, it is the only way to tell Google what your valid server(s) is/are. It doesn't matter what you have done with GoDaddy. Also, despite what most documentation says, Google will NOT accept an "ipv4:" section instead of "a:' 4) Can't comment further without seeing what Google's bounce messages look like At 10:27 PM 5/30/2026, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: >Dick Goodman via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > >> I already have an SPF record which says: v=spf1 mx ~all, what's > > >> wrong with that? > > > > LOTS. It doesn't specify a valid server. try this > > > > "v=spf1 a:fcx2.keithdiane.us include:_spf.google.com ~all" > >I don't like to copy stuff I don't understand, so I have been reading >RFC's and log files. I don't see why "a:fcx2.keithdiane.us" would >help, since I already told the (godaddy) namesever > > mx @ fcx2.keithdiane.us. (Priority: 10) 1 Hour > >but it seemed harmless, so I put it in. No visible change. > >On the other hand "include:_spf.google.com" seems just wrong. I am >not trying to get gmail.com to send my mail, I want them to accept it. > >I am thinking that all those many various messages that say "gmail.com >requires DKIM, SPF, TLS, DMARC, etc. are a pile of crimson herring. >What they really mean is "gmail.com" does not want anyone else relaying >mail from gmail, no matter how. > >I notice that WLUG uses GNU Mailman, and that mail is modified, both >body and headers, and that seems to work. I have, for 20 years, just >been relaying mail unchanged. Maybe that simply does not work with the >corporate monopoly internet. Maybe I need to use Mailman or something >similar, so that the envelope MAIL FROM is rewritten to <mymail.org>. > >GNU Mailman seems rather complex for that one thing. Is the wizard who >set that up here on the WLUG list, or did you just delegate that? Is >there a simpler way? > > > If anybody cares what I have been working on, part of it is on this page: > > > > http://www.nerflings.org/none/fcs/vpsmove.html#gmail > > > > If you can answer any of the quesions at the end of that page you may be > > eligible to apply to be my hero. > > -- Keith >_______________________________________________ >WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >Change Settings: >https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >Web Forum/Archive: >https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/5MQSY…

May 31, 2026

Re: Keith's mail issue

by Keith Wright

Dick Goodman via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > >> I already have an SPF record which says: v=spf1 mx ~all, what's > >> wrong with that? > > LOTS. It doesn't specify a valid server. try this > > "v=spf1 a:fcx2.keithdiane.us include:_spf.google.com ~all" I don't like to copy stuff I don't understand, so I have been reading RFC's and log files. I don't see why "a:fcx2.keithdiane.us" would help, since I already told the (godaddy) namesever mx @ fcx2.keithdiane.us. (Priority: 10) 1 Hour but it seemed harmless, so I put it in. No visible change. On the other hand "include:_spf.google.com" seems just wrong. I am not trying to get gmail.com to send my mail, I want them to accept it. I am thinking that all those many various messages that say "gmail.com requires DKIM, SPF, TLS, DMARC, etc. are a pile of crimson herring. What they really mean is "gmail.com" does not want anyone else relaying mail from gmail, no matter how. I notice that WLUG uses GNU Mailman, and that mail is modified, both body and headers, and that seems to work. I have, for 20 years, just been relaying mail unchanged. Maybe that simply does not work with the corporate monopoly internet. Maybe I need to use Mailman or something similar, so that the envelope MAIL FROM is rewritten to <mymail.org>. GNU Mailman seems rather complex for that one thing. Is the wizard who set that up here on the WLUG list, or did you just delegate that? Is there a simpler way? > If anybody cares what I have been working on, part of it is on this page: > > http://www.nerflings.org/none/fcs/vpsmove.html#gmail > > If you can answer any of the quesions at the end of that page you may be > eligible to apply to be my hero. -- Keith

May 31, 2026

Keith's mail issue

by Dick Goodman

>>I already have an SPF record which says: v=spf1 mx ~all, what's wrong with that? LOTS. It doesn't specify a valid server. try this "v=spf1 a:fcx2.keithdiane.us include:_spf.google.com ~all" Dick

May 21, 2026