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Reminder: May WLUG Meeting TODAY! Field Trip to Technocopia on May 12th!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, This is a reminder that we've got a field trip planned for this WLUG meeting! We're going to Technocopia May 12th! @ 7pm! It's located at 44 Portland St. We've been told by 7pm the lot next to the building is available for parking. Kevin Harrington is going to be giving a tour of the new digs and then showing off his Bowler Robotics Studio stuff. Afterwards we'll figure out a pizza situation. Thanks Ron for organizing this! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

May 12, 2016

Reminder: May WLUG Meeting: Field Trip to Technocopia on May 12th!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, This is a reminder that we've got a field trip planned for this WLUG meeting! We're going to Technocopia May 12th! @ 7pm! It's located at 44 Portland St. We've been told by 7pm the lot next to the building is available for parking. Kevin Harrington is going to be giving a tour of the new digs and then showing off his Bowler Robotics Studio stuff. Afterwards we'll figure out a pizza situation. Thanks Ron for organizing this! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

May 9, 2016

May WLUG Meeting: Field Trip to Technocopia on May 12th!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! We are going on a field trip! When: May 12th Where: Technocopia @ 44 Portland St. Worcester MA. Parking: By 7pm the lot next to the building is empty so parking is easy. Who: Kevin Harrington What: Kevin will be giving a tour of the place and then a demo of Bowler Robotics Studio I would thank long time member Ron for organizing this! Afterwards we'll figure something out for pizza! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 30, 2016

WLUG Field Trip May 12th to Technopia!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! Our next WLUG Meeting is going to be a field trip to the new location of Technocopia <http://technocopia.org/> Time: 7pm Date: May 12th, 2016 Location: 44 Portland St. 6th Floor Topic: Tour and Demos. I'd like to thank our long time member Ron for orchestrating this! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 23, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Gregory Avedissian

Yes, it's still April, which started on a Friday. May starts on a Sunday. Greg On 04/21/2016 04:35 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote: > It wasn't just you. The WPI campus email servers had a glitch in the anti spam system, and a large backlog of messages, including WLUG, got caught up in it. > > On April 21, 2016 3:30:56 PM EDT, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: >> Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU (mx1.wpi.edu [130.215.36.141]) >> by MAIL1.WPI.EDU (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTP id u3LIE4LJ011168; >> Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:04 -0400 >> Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) >> by MX1.WPI.EDU (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3LIE3EZ012905; >> Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:03 -0400 >> (envelope-from wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org) >> Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU >> by MX1.WPI.EDU with queue id 38885170-1; >> Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:43:19 GMT >> >> Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> writes: >> >>> On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: >>>> Hey Gang, >>>> >>>> This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! >> >> I just got a wad of messages from last week. >> >> Don't know what happened, but it looks like not my fault. >> >> MX1.WPI.EDU takes seven days to deliver a message to itself. >> >> Why exactly seven days? (plus one second) >> >> Not my problem, I'm still thinking about Knuth Vol 4B, >> problem 121, and how to prove the Myhill-Nerode theorem >> in a monoidal closed category. >> >> This a test. Is it still April? >> My calendar says May, but it's 2009. >> I save paper by using old caledars (there's always >> a month that starts on the same day of the week). >> >> -- Keith >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 21, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Frank Sweetser

It wasn't just you. The WPI campus email servers had a glitch in the anti spam system, and a large backlog of messages, including WLUG, got caught up in it. On April 21, 2016 3:30:56 PM EDT, Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> wrote: >Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU (mx1.wpi.edu [130.215.36.141]) > by MAIL1.WPI.EDU (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTP id u3LIE4LJ011168; > Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:04 -0400 >Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by MX1.WPI.EDU (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3LIE3EZ012905; > Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:03 -0400 > (envelope-from wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org) >Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU > by MX1.WPI.EDU with queue id 38885170-1; > Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:43:19 GMT > >Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: >>> Hey Gang, >>> >>> This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > >I just got a wad of messages from last week. > >Don't know what happened, but it looks like not my fault. > >MX1.WPI.EDU takes seven days to deliver a message to itself. > >Why exactly seven days? (plus one second) > >Not my problem, I'm still thinking about Knuth Vol 4B, >problem 121, and how to prove the Myhill-Nerode theorem >in a monoidal closed category. > >This a test. Is it still April? >My calendar says May, but it's 2009. >I save paper by using old caledars (there's always >a month that starts on the same day of the week). > > -- Keith > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

April 21, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Keith Wright

Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU (mx1.wpi.edu [130.215.36.141]) by MAIL1.WPI.EDU (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTP id u3LIE4LJ011168; Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:04 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MX1.WPI.EDU (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3LIE3EZ012905; Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:14:03 -0400 (envelope-from wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org) Received: from MX1.WPI.EDU by MX1.WPI.EDU with queue id 38885170-1; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:43:19 GMT Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> writes: > On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: >> Hey Gang, >> >> This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! I just got a wad of messages from last week. Don't know what happened, but it looks like not my fault. MX1.WPI.EDU takes seven days to deliver a message to itself. Why exactly seven days? (plus one second) Not my problem, I'm still thinking about Knuth Vol 4B, problem 121, and how to prove the Myhill-Nerode theorem in a monoidal closed category. This a test. Is it still April? My calendar says May, but it's 2009. I save paper by using old caledars (there's always a month that starts on the same day of the week). -- Keith

April 21, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Raspberry Pi alternative

by JeffA Maillists

I backed this and have a 2GB model on the way... I will probably be using it as a Repetier Host server for my 3D printers... Jeff On Mar 11, 2016 9:35 AM, "Chuck Anderson" <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > Here is the Raspberry Pi alternative I was trying to remember the name > of last night: > > https://www.pine64.com/product#pricing > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 20, 2016

I will be unavke to attend tonight...

by Tim Keller

My wife and one of my kids is under the weather... I'm going to do the right thing and stay home and take care of them. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Mike Peckar

Wish I could make it but I’ve got a conflict. Greg, If you have slides or notes to share after the meeting, that would be splendid. Thanks, Mike

April 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Tim Keller

I believe at this point ALL the rooms in WPI have hdmi. That shouldn't be a problem. I do believe all the rooms have at the podium a 3mm head phone jack. Thanks, Tim. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've got some technical concerns about the demo. Just want to make sure we > have all the right stuff on hand. No VGA port on the laptop, just HDMI. > The one time I tested that (yesterday) there was no audio through the > HDMI. The laptop speakers are loud enough if you hold your ear close. Can > we patch into the sound system with a mini-jack? (Or does someone have a > pair of micro-speakers they can bring along in their pocket?) > > Greg > > > On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > > > Here are the details: > > Date: April 14th, 2016 > > Time: 7pm > > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > > Topic: FM radio station management with Linux! > > Presenter: Greg Avedissian > > > > Long time member Greg Avedissian will be speaking about using linux to > > operate an FM radio station and giving a demo! > > > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech > pizza > > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Gregory Avedissian

I've got some technical concerns about the demo. Just want to make sure we have all the right stuff on hand. No VGA port on the laptop, just HDMI. The one time I tested that (yesterday) there was no audio through the HDMI. The laptop speakers are loud enough if you hold your ear close. Can we patch into the sound system with a mini-jack? (Or does someone have a pair of micro-speakers they can bring along in their pocket?) Greg On 04/14/2016 10:06 AM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > Here are the details: > Date: April 14th, 2016 > Time: 7pm > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > Topic: FM radio station management with Linux! > Presenter: Greg Avedissian > > Long time member Greg Avedissian will be speaking about using linux to > operate an FM radio station and giving a demo! > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > Later, > Tim. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 14, 2016

WLUG Meeting Tonight: Topic: FM radio broadcast automation and linux! NOTE the location!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! Here are the details: Date: April 14th, 2016 Time: 7pm Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 Topic: FM radio station management with Linux! Presenter: Greg Avedissian Long time member Greg Avedissian will be speaking about using linux to operate an FM radio station and giving a demo! Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza afterwards for some slices and more banter! Later, Tim.

April 14, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thursday April 14th 2016 NOTE LOCATION!

by Tim Keller

That would be FANTASTIC! Sounds like we've got ourselves a speaker! Thanks Greg! Later, Tim. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I could talk about using linux for radio broadcast automation. Demo, too - > I've got it running on the laptop. > > Greg > > > On 04/12/2016 03:17 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > > > Here are the details: > > Date: April 14th, 2016 > > Time: 7pm > > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > > Topic: None Currently. If someone wants to speak let me know! > > > > I've reached out to a bunch of people but schedules/etc. have gotten in > the > > way. Worse case scenario, we simply nerd out... > > > > If people are interested I can speak about hadoop and what's gone into > > building the clusters and some of the hardware and management challenges > > I've dealt with. > > > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech > pizza > > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 12, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thursday April 14th 2016 NOTE LOCATION!

by Gregory Avedissian

I could talk about using linux for radio broadcast automation. Demo, too - I've got it running on the laptop. Greg On 04/12/2016 03:17 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > Hey Gang, > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > Here are the details: > Date: April 14th, 2016 > Time: 7pm > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > Topic: None Currently. If someone wants to speak let me know! > > I've reached out to a bunch of people but schedules/etc. have gotten in the > way. Worse case scenario, we simply nerd out... > > If people are interested I can speak about hadoop and what's gone into > building the clusters and some of the hardware and management challenges > I've dealt with. > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > Later, > Tim. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 12, 2016

Reminder: Meeting Thursday April 14th 2016 NOTE LOCATION!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! Here are the details: Date: April 14th, 2016 Time: 7pm Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 Topic: None Currently. If someone wants to speak let me know! I've reached out to a bunch of people but schedules/etc. have gotten in the way. Worse case scenario, we simply nerd out... If people are interested I can speak about hadoop and what's gone into building the clusters and some of the hardware and management challenges I've dealt with. Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech pizza afterwards for some slices and more banter! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 12, 2016

Meeting Reminder! April 14th, 2016 @ 7pm NOTE: Location change!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, Our next meeting is going to be April 14th, 2016! We're going to be back in At-Water Kent Rm 232. As for a speaker nothing has panned out yet, so we'll see. Worse case I can talk about ansible. As usual snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll head to Tech to keep talking shop and eat some pizza! Later, Tim.

April 6, 2016

Re: [Wlug] UEFI Blues

by John Stoffel

Gary> Yes, that's what I was doing but after I chose this the Mint installer Gary> wasn't seeing any partitions. Removed GPT record with gdisk and that Gary> fixed it. Gary> On 03/25/2016 11:49 AM, John Stoffel wrote: >> You're talking about the MINT installer, right? In any case, I think >> you need to make sure that you boot into Win10, shrink the C:\ drive >> and leave free space on the disk. >> >> The in the mint installer you need to select the custom disk >> partitioning scheme, since you need to find and select the space by >> hand. I think you should be able to understand GPT partitions with both GRUB and Mint these days... but haven't tested it myself in detail.

April 1, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Mike Peckar

> It is interesting that they are bringing some type of *IX support back... Peter Pouliot, who is the MS guy working on getting Hyper-V support back into OpenStack, spoke at last year's PuppetConf in Boston, and said that *nix stacks will likely come back into MS products so MS can play with the likes of OpenStack and similar opensource tools making their way into devOps, EntOps, cloud apps and big data. In essence, he indicated they're panicking and they should be. Mike

March 31, 2016

good article Q+A with Linus Torvalds

by Doug Mildram

doug> The joys of project management! About which I know very little. I only noticed this because the IEEE......... (which i joined for a short year, then they keep sending me weekly/monthly stuff for free on email, plus they keep begging me to re-join) sent me links to..... http://spectrum.ieee.org/computing/software/linux-at-25-qa-with-linus-torva… doug> My favorite take-home (one comment/reply to the line below said: "everyone knows that!" ) Linux is a kernel, not an entire operating system. but in the article, Linus got quoted saying... If I had known what I know today when I started, I would never have had the chutzpah to start writing my own operating system: You need a certain amount of naïveté to think that you can do it.

March 31, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Chuck Anderson

Windows NT/XP/7/8 had the POSIX subsystem and then the Interix subsystem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interix But they deprecated it in Windows 8 and don't support it at all on Windows 10. It is interesting that they are bringing some type of *IX support back... On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 05:42:54PM -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > As one of my co-workers pointed out... the MS file model is fundamentally > incompatible with the linux model. Try renaming a file in windows that > someone else has open... try deleting a file someone has open. > > There are lots and lots of linux programs that do that last trick... create > a temp file, open it and then delete it... use it for scratch space and > then when they close it... *poof* it's gone. > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Dennis Payne <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> > wrote: > > > Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically > > interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I > > imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support > > SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install > > it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. > > > > On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > > > > > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… > > > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > > syscalls... > > > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that > > it'll be running sshd. > > > > Tim.

March 31, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Tim Keller

As one of my co-workers pointed out... the MS file model is fundamentally incompatible with the linux model. Try renaming a file in windows that someone else has open... try deleting a file someone has open. There are lots and lots of linux programs that do that last trick... create a temp file, open it and then delete it... use it for scratch space and then when they close it... *poof* it's gone. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Dennis Payne <dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com> wrote: > Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically > interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I > imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support > SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install > it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. > > On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > > > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > syscalls... > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that > it'll be running sshd. > > Tim. > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing listWlug@mail.wlug.orghttp://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 30, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Dennis Payne

Interesting but I don't see much point. Yes it may be technically interesting but from an end user perspective why use this over cygwin. I imagine any graphical application won't work. If they did make it support SDL, gtk, etc., I'd be interested. Granted on a new machine I might install it instead of cygwin if it was easier to install. On Wed, 2016-03-30 at 15:49 -0400, Tim Keller wrote: > https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-u > serspace-for-windows-developers/ > > They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows > syscalls... > > Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. > > Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now > that it'll be running sshd. > > Tim. > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 30, 2016

Microsoft supporting linux userspace programs in windows 10?

by Tim Keller

https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspa… They've written a wrapper that converts linux syscalls to windows syscalls... Native bash, rsync, etc... without cygwin. Well, this will make backing up my wife's machine a bit easier now that it'll be running sshd. Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 30, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Block-level remote file sync?

by Keith Wright

Chris <wolcen(a)riseup.net> writes: > Thanks in advance! Hope you are all well. > --Chris > > PS - LibrePlanet was pretty fun :) Fine, thank you. -- Keith PS: I was there, at least on Saturday. Were you hiding, or do I not know what Chris looks like? Hint: the law of excluded middle is irrelevant, as is relevance logic. Answer: Give up? B the latter, and/or both/either A, the former, and/or B. PPS: I suppose I could Google what LOPSA stands for, but I don't care.

March 29, 2016