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Re: So about the Feb. Meeting... it falls on valentines day...

by Eric Martin

Good call -- Eric > On Jan 7, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > We can talk about this at the meeting but looking at at calendar the Feb. WLUG meeting is going to fall on Valentines day. > > I see this as a problem... Why don't we move it to the 21st preemptively. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Jan. 7, 2019

So about the Feb. Meeting... it falls on valentines day...

by Tim Keller

We can talk about this at the meeting but looking at at calendar the Feb. WLUG meeting is going to fall on Valentines day. I see this as a problem... Why don't we move it to the 21st preemptively. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 7, 2019

WLUG Meeting THIS Thursday Jan. 10th, 2019! Topic: A Scheme to bootstrap Trust

by Tim Keller

Here are the pertinent details: Date & Time: Jan. 10th, 2019 @ 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 "Taylor Room" It's the room at the BOTTOM of the stairs. Topic: A Scheme to Bootstrap Trust. Presenter: Dr. Keith Wright. Snacks and Refreshments will be provided and we'll head off for dinner afterwards to continue to conversation. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 7, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Robert Schwein

I usually reserve more than a half day for updates once a W10 fresh install is accomplished. Nice when getting paid by the hour. Bob On 1/6/2019 3:06 PM, Kevin W Stratton via WLUG wrote: > > I have seen firewalls, when downloading a large file, reduce in > performance until the connection appears to freeze. The comment about > the router being old has SOME validity. Would a firmware update of > the router be in order? I have come to expect a new windows box to be > busy for a while doing updates when it is first turned on (*ugh*). > > > On 1/6/19 9:02 AM, Joseph Guarino via WLUG wrote: >> LMAO! I wonder what Wireshark, tcpdump or even ntopng would have to >> say about what you are experiencing. 😱 Perhaps you are right. It >> must be the wizards! 😂 >> >> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 8:48 AM Doug Mildram via WLUG >> <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: >> >> I blame your router for being weak and paranoid, seeing the >> newest client OS made it run into your back room with the cash >> register open. Now your router may be running Windows, or DOS? >> >> The community also includes trolls (like me). Greasy foul-mouthed >> comedians once under the hood, now lurking everywhere. They took >> over the underground pathways starting with your sewer system. >> They figured out that the command line is how to control all >> those posers like gnomes wizards and elves. >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG >> <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >> That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by >> wizards. Instead of doing a task directly, you must go >> through the steps the wizard requires. >> >> http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt >> >> On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >>> So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My >>> company gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with >>> windows 10... no worries I'll just quick grab the 18.10 >>> ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to create a >>> bootable USB... >>> >>> The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell >>> broke loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because >>> I assume it'll just send my wifi info back to a mothership >>> somewhere. >>> >>> My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to >>> yank the power sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge >>> and reboot. >>> >>> Windows... evil to the core... >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list --wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email towlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Jan. 6, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Kevin W Stratton

I have seen firewalls, when downloading a large file, reduce in performance until the connection appears to freeze. The comment about the router being old has SOME validity. Would a firmware update of the router be in order? I have come to expect a new windows box to be busy for a while doing updates when it is first turned on (*ugh*). On 1/6/19 9:02 AM, Joseph Guarino via WLUG wrote: > LMAO! I wonder what Wireshark, tcpdump or even ntopng would have to > say about what you are experiencing. 😱 Perhaps you are right. It must > be the wizards! 😂 > > On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 8:48 AM Doug Mildram via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: > > I blame your router for being weak and paranoid, seeing the newest > client OS made it run into your back room with the cash register > open. Now your router may be running Windows, or DOS? > > The community also includes trolls (like me). Greasy foul-mouthed > comedians once under the hood, now lurking everywhere. They took > over the underground pathways starting with your sewer system. > They figured out that the command line is how to control all those > posers like gnomes wizards and elves. > > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by > wizards. Instead of doing a task directly, you must go through > the steps the wizard requires. > > http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt > > On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >> So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My >> company gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with >> windows 10... no worries I'll just quick grab the 18.10 >> ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to create a >> bootable USB... >> >> The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell >> broke loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I >> assume it'll just send my wifi info back to a mothership >> somewhere. >> >> My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank >> the power sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. >> >> Windows... evil to the core... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Jan. 6, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Tim Keller

I fully admit my router is a POS. I've needed and wanted an excess to upgrade it, now I have some ammo... Sorry honey the wifi is down... the new machine crashed the router... we'll just have to buy a new one... I'll bring this machine to work tomorrow and see how it fairs there... On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:02 AM Joseph Guarino via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > LMAO! I wonder what Wireshark, tcpdump or even ntopng would have to say > about what you are experiencing. 😱 Perhaps you are right. It must be the > wizards! 😂 > > On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 8:48 AM Doug Mildram via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> I blame your router for being weak and paranoid, seeing the newest client >> OS made it run into your back room with the cash register open. Now your >> router may be running Windows, or DOS? >> >> The community also includes trolls (like me). Greasy foul-mouthed >> comedians once under the hood, now lurking everywhere. They took over the >> underground pathways starting with your sewer system. They figured out that >> the command line is how to control all those posers like gnomes wizards and >> elves. >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> wrote: >> >>> That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. Instead >>> of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps the wizard requires. >>> >>> http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt >>> >>> On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >>> >>> So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company >>> gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no worries >>> I'll just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools >>> to create a bootable USB... >>> >>> The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke >>> loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll just >>> send my wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. >>> >>> My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the power >>> sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. >>> >>> Windows... evil to the core... >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> WLUG mailing list -- >>> >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> >>> wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 6, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Joseph Guarino

LMAO! I wonder what Wireshark, tcpdump or even ntopng would have to say about what you are experiencing. 😱 Perhaps you are right. It must be the wizards! 😂 On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 8:48 AM Doug Mildram via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I blame your router for being weak and paranoid, seeing the newest client > OS made it run into your back room with the cash register open. Now your > router may be running Windows, or DOS? > > The community also includes trolls (like me). Greasy foul-mouthed > comedians once under the hood, now lurking everywhere. They took over the > underground pathways starting with your sewer system. They figured out that > the command line is how to control all those posers like gnomes wizards and > elves. > > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > wrote: > >> That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. Instead >> of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps the wizard requires. >> >> http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt >> >> On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >> >> So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company gave >> me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no worries I'll >> just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to >> create a bootable USB... >> >> The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke loose. >> I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll just send my >> wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. >> >> My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the power >> sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. >> >> Windows... evil to the core... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> WLUG mailing list -- >> >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> >> wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Jan. 6, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Doug Mildram

I blame your router for being weak and paranoid, seeing the newest client OS made it run into your back room with the cash register open. Now your router may be running Windows, or DOS? The community also includes trolls (like me). Greasy foul-mouthed comedians once under the hood, now lurking everywhere. They took over the underground pathways starting with your sewer system. They figured out that the command line is how to control all those posers like gnomes wizards and elves. On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org wrote: > That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. Instead > of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps the wizard requires. > > http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt > > On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company gave > me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no worries I'll > just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to > create a bootable USB... > > The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke loose. > I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll just send my > wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. > > My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the power > sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. > > Windows... evil to the core... > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Jan. 6, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by David Glaser

Followed by the Luggage! On 1/5/19 10:15 AM, Frank Sweetser via WLUG wrote: > Yup - unfortunately the wizzard in question is usually Rincewind... > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. > Instead of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps > the wizard requires. > > http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt > > On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >> So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My >> company gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows >> 10... no worries I'll just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and >> use one of the various tools to create a bootable USB... >> >> The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell >> broke loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I >> assume it'll just send my wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. >> >> My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the >> power sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. >> >> Windows... evil to the core... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: Jan. WLUG Meeting: Jan 10th, Topic: Keith's talk!

by Richard Klein

So, social engineering? Spear-phishing? :-) On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 11:33 AM Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes (edited): > > > We've got a meeting on Thursday, January 10th, 2019 @ 7pm. > > Location: WPI Campus Center, Taylor Room 128. > > > Topic: I'm not sure of the tile, but esteemed > > longtime member Keith Wright will be giving a talk! > > The reminders will definitely have the topic name in > > them, hint, hint... > > I don't know, it's kind of a melange of what I have been > doing and thinking about and not doing and forgetting... > > Let's call it "A Scheme to Bootstrap Trust". > > -- Keith > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: Jan. WLUG Meeting: Jan 10th, Topic: Keith's talk!

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes (edited): > We've got a meeting on Thursday, January 10th, 2019 @ 7pm. > Location: WPI Campus Center, Taylor Room 128. > Topic: I'm not sure of the tile, but esteemed > longtime member Keith Wright will be giving a talk! > The reminders will definitely have the topic name in > them, hint, hint... I don't know, it's kind of a melange of what I have been doing and thinking about and not doing and forgetting... Let's call it "A Scheme to Bootstrap Trust". -- Keith

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Frank Sweetser

Yup - unfortunately the wizzard in question is usually Rincewind... On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:13 AM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org wrote: > That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. Instead > of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps the wizard requires. > > http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt > > On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company gave > me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no worries I'll > just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to > create a bootable USB... > > The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke loose. > I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll just send my > wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. > > My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the power > sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. > > Windows... evil to the core... > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Dennis Payne

That's a common myth. Windows is actually controlled by wizards. Instead of doing a task directly, you must go through the steps the wizard requires. http://identicalsoftware.com/dulsi/fantasy_os.txt id="-x-evo-selection-start-marker"> On Sat, 2019-01-05 at 09:28 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company > gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no > worries I'll just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the > various tools to create a bootable USB... > The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke > loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll > just send my wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. > > My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the > power sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. > > Windows... evil to the core... > > _______________________________________________WLUG mailing list -- > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Jan. 5, 2019

Jan. WLUG Meeting: Jan 10th, Topic: Keith's talk!

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, We've got a meeting on Thursday, January 10th, 2019 @ 7pm. Topic: I'm not sure of the tile, but esteemed longtime member Keith Wright will be giving a talk! The reminders will definitely have the topic name in them, hint, hint... Location: WPI Campus Center, Taylor Room 128. As usual refreshments and snacks will be provided and afterwards we'll head off for dinner to keep the conversation going. Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 5, 2019

Demon haunted windows 10 laptop...

by Tim Keller

So my trusty old piece of crap finally, well crapped out. My company gave me a shiny new Lenovo 470 but it came with windows 10... no worries I'll just quick grab the 18.10 ubuntu iso and use one of the various tools to create a bootable USB... The *moment* I plugged it into my ethernet network, all hell broke loose. I didn't want to hook it up to my wifi because I assume it'll just send my wifi info back to a mothership somewhere. My Verizion AP / router promptly crashed, hard. I had to yank the power sing the ABC song for it to fully discharge and reboot. Windows... evil to the core... -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: Dec. Topic: DMARC, SPF ...; Jan. Topic: Keith's Problem

by Tim Keller

Excellent Keith! That was the plan and I'm glad we're sticking with it! Thanks, Tim. On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:49 PM Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes (edited): > > > Hey Everybody! > > > > We've got a meeting [tomorrow] Next Week! > > Date & Time: 2019-Jan-10 + 24:00 UTC > > Location: WPI Student Center Mid Century Room (rm 331) > > According to the calendar at http://www.wlug.org/ > there is a meeting next Thursday. Before the > last meeting I volunteered to make a presentation, > mainly because I thought there were no other volunteers. > That turned out not to be the case. Frank gave an > excellent presentation of newer email protocols. > The meeting ended with Tim saying I (Keith) would do it > next time and me saying I could not promise that > because sometimes I have overriding Thursday commitments. > > I can now say that I am free next Thursday, and therefore > plan to attend WLUG and can do it then. > > Alternately, if someone else has a plan for next meeting > I can do it some other time. No hurry. No worry. > > -- Keith Wright, > Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop > http://www.free-comp-shop.com/ > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: cool HW-info linux/bsd tool "inxi"

by Kevin W Stratton

I am considering getting a desktop document reader/scanner for my linux desktop. I am hoping to do all of the following with the camera. 1) scan documents or book pages for OCR. From what I can determine 8MP is desirable for this. 2) view close ups large enough to inspect the solder (or at least the presence of) on fine pitch devices. (Electronics) 3) Use it as a web cam. I suspect my desktop is powerful enough to read the camera at the 30FPS, does webcam software in linux reduce the image enough quality for skype to work with a SLOW broadband connection? I am asking for opinions/suggestions. Here are the links to the two I am considering. https://www.amazon.com/IPEVO-Definition-Document-Camera-5-880-4-01-00/dp/B0… And its more expensive cousin, even if it is too expensive for my budget. I HATE buying things twice. https://www.amazon.com/Ipevo-5-883-4-01-00-VZ-R-Document-Camera/dp/B0784RZN…

Jan. 5, 2019

Re: Dec. Topic: DMARC, SPF ...; Jan. Topic: Keith's Problem

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes (edited): > Hey Everybody! > > We've got a meeting [tomorrow] Next Week! > Date & Time: 2019-Jan-10 + 24:00 UTC > Location: WPI Student Center Mid Century Room (rm 331) According to the calendar at http://www.wlug.org/ there is a meeting next Thursday. Before the last meeting I volunteered to make a presentation, mainly because I thought there were no other volunteers. That turned out not to be the case. Frank gave an excellent presentation of newer email protocols. The meeting ended with Tim saying I (Keith) would do it next time and me saying I could not promise that because sometimes I have overriding Thursday commitments. I can now say that I am free next Thursday, and therefore plan to attend WLUG and can do it then. Alternately, if someone else has a plan for next meeting I can do it some other time. No hurry. No worry. -- Keith Wright, Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop http://www.free-comp-shop.com/

Jan. 4, 2019

Re: Apt-X support

by Richard Klein

I think this answers my question: https://askubuntu.com/questions/425333/how-to-make-aptx-capable-bluetooth-e… It looks like you do need AptX support in the dongle. Also, something I hadn't considered is that AptX is proprietary, not FOSS. On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 10:06 AM joseph.leblanc via WLUG < wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > The one that I didn't have any trouble with was Panda 4.0 > On 12/28/18 10:24 PM, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: > > I'm looking at bluetooth dongles for my desktop. Is Apt-X support provided > by the hardware or the OS? > > -- > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Dec. 30, 2018

Re: Apt-X support

by joseph.leblanc

The one that I didn't have any trouble with was Panda 4.0 On 12/28/18 10:24 PM, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: > I'm looking at bluetooth dongles for my desktop. Is Apt-X support > provided by the hardware or the OS? > > -- > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Dec. 30, 2018

Apt-X support

by Richard Klein

I'm looking at bluetooth dongles for my desktop. Is Apt-X support provided by the hardware or the OS? -- Rich

Dec. 29, 2018

Re: cool HW-info linux/bsd tool "inxi"

by Kevin W Stratton

I noticed that the fan speed was zero. I had the same result on mt Mint machine. To fix this I had to run sensors-detect (part of lm sensors?) to update /etc/modules with the correct driver(s) and reboot. Hopefully, GKrellM or ones preferred hardware monitoring GUI will work with fan speed now. Just adding my 2 cents worth. On 12/17/18 11:21 PM, Doug Mildram via WLUG wrote: > doug> Ran into this out of the blue, and wanted to share the joy > (if you like attempting to understand the gore of PC > hardware.... > or figure out what you just plugged in, or assembled,etc. > Sample output below! I havent even studied the args/options yet. > Sections I "asked for" (the options/args I used.. "inxi -Fxz" , gave > me....) > System,Machine,CPU,Graphics,Audio,Network,Drives,Partition,Sensors,Info. > > I like how it reports disk (3 below) info, > with per-disk temperature! Except on an SSD on another machine, temp.=0C > > I like how it reports per-disk temperature! > Except on an SSD, I got temp.=0C > sections I asked for with : > > Drives: HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (5.1% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: > Samsung_SSD_860 size: 250.1GB temp: 0C > > > pardon the TMI/detail+long_lines below. -doug > > *Inix* is available in most mainstream Linux distribution > repositories, and runs on BSDs as well. > > $ sudo apt-get install inxi [On*Debian/Ubuntu/Linux Mint*] > $ sudo yum install inxi [On*CentOs/RHEL/Fedora*] > $ sudo dnf install inxi [On*Fedora 22+*] > $ inxi -Fxz > > System: Host: P5Q Kernel: 3.10.0-862.14.4.el7.x86_64 x86_64 > bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 4.8.5 Console: tty 1 > Distro: CentOS Linux release 7.5.1804 (Core) > Machine: Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P5Q-PRO v: Rev 1.xx > serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends > v: 2102 date: 02/23/2009 > CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 bits: > 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn rev: A > L2 cache: 6144 KiB > flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx > bogomips: 11997 > Speed: 2003 MHz min/max: 2003/3003 MHz Core speeds > (MHz): 1: 2003 2: 2003 > Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV610 > [Radeon HD 2400 PRO/XT] driver: radeon v: kernel > bus ID: 01:00.0 > Display: server: X.org 1.19.5 driver: ati,radeon > unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa tty: 134x42 > Message: Advanced graphics data unavailable in console. > Try -G --display > Audio: Device-1: VIA VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel > Audio driver: snd_ice1724 v: kernel > bus ID: 05:00.0 > Sound Server: ALSA v: k3.10.0-862.14.4.el7.x86_64 > Network: Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit > or Fast Ethernet driver: ATL1E v: N/A > port: bc00 bus ID: 02:00.0 > IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter> > Device-2: Intel 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet driver: e1000 > v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: ec00 bus ID: 07:01.0 > IF: enp7s1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: > <filter> > IF-ID-1: virbr0 state: down mac: <filter> > IF-ID-2: virbr0-nic state: down mac: <filter> > Drives: Local Storage: total: 1.41 TiB used: 398.89 GiB (27.6%) > ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HDS724040KLSA80 > size: 372.61 GiB temp: 39 C > ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: > WD7500AACS-65D6B0 size: 698.64 GiB temp: 35 C > ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Hitachi model: HDS724040KLSA80 > size: 372.61 GiB temp: 42 C > Partition: ID-1: / size: 64.04 GiB used: 9.41 GiB (14.7%) fs: ext4 > dev: /dev/sdb1 > Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 31.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon > temp: 43 C > Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A > Info: Processes: 196 Uptime: 11h 09m Memory: 1.79 GiB used: > 896.5 MiB (48.8%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 > Compilers: gcc: N/A Shell: bash v: 4.2.46 inxi: 3.0.26 > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Dec. 23, 2018

Re: cool HW-info linux/bsd tool "inxi"

by Mike Peckar

That is pretty nifty, thanks. It's such a PITA trying to pull all that info when I want to inventory systems, this does a lot! I can also imagine it would be a pretty useful tool for nefarious types fishing around for hardware to steal. Mike On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 11:21 PM Doug Mildram via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > doug> Ran into this out of the blue, and wanted to share the joy > (if you like attempting to understand the gore of PC > hardware.... > or figure out what you just plugged in, or assembled,etc. > Sample output below! I havent even studied the args/options yet. > Sections I "asked for" (the options/args I used.. "inxi -Fxz" , gave > me....) > System,Machine,CPU,Graphics,Audio,Network,Drives,Partition,Sensors,Info. > > I like how it reports disk (3 below) info, > with per-disk temperature! Except on an SSD on another machine, temp.=0C > > I like how it reports per-disk temperature! > Except on an SSD, I got temp.=0C > sections I asked for with : > > Drives: HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (5.1% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: > Samsung_SSD_860 size: 250.1GB temp: 0C > > > pardon the TMI/detail+long_lines below. -doug > > *Inix* is available in most mainstream Linux distribution repositories, > and runs on BSDs as well. > > $ sudo apt-get install inxi [On *Debian/Ubuntu/Linux Mint*] > $ sudo yum install inxi [On *CentOs/RHEL/Fedora*] > $ sudo dnf install inxi [On *Fedora 22+*] > > $ inxi -Fxz > >> System: Host: P5Q Kernel: 3.10.0-862.14.4.el7.x86_64 x86_64 bits: 64 >> compiler: gcc v: 4.8.5 Console: tty 1 >> Distro: CentOS Linux release 7.5.1804 (Core) >> Machine: Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P5Q-PRO v: Rev 1.xx serial: >> <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends >> v: 2102 date: 02/23/2009 >> CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 bits: 64 >> type: MCP arch: Penryn rev: A >> L2 cache: 6144 KiB >> flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 11997 >> Speed: 2003 MHz min/max: 2003/3003 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: >> 2003 2: 2003 >> Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV610 [Radeon HD >> 2400 PRO/XT] driver: radeon v: kernel >> bus ID: 01:00.0 >> Display: server: X.org 1.19.5 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: >> fbdev,modesetting,vesa tty: 134x42 >> Message: Advanced graphics data unavailable in console. Try -G >> --display >> Audio: Device-1: VIA VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio >> driver: snd_ice1724 v: kernel >> bus ID: 05:00.0 >> Sound Server: ALSA v: k3.10.0-862.14.4.el7.x86_64 >> Network: Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit or >> Fast Ethernet driver: ATL1E v: N/A >> port: bc00 bus ID: 02:00.0 >> IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter> >> Device-2: Intel 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet driver: e1000 v: >> 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: ec00 bus ID: 07:01.0 >> IF: enp7s1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: >> <filter> >> IF-ID-1: virbr0 state: down mac: <filter> >> IF-ID-2: virbr0-nic state: down mac: <filter> >> Drives: Local Storage: total: 1.41 TiB used: 398.89 GiB (27.6%) >> ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HDS724040KLSA80 size: >> 372.61 GiB temp: 39 C >> ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: >> WD7500AACS-65D6B0 size: 698.64 GiB temp: 35 C >> ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Hitachi model: HDS724040KLSA80 size: >> 372.61 GiB temp: 42 C >> Partition: ID-1: / size: 64.04 GiB used: 9.41 GiB (14.7%) fs: ext4 dev: >> /dev/sdb1 >> Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 31.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: >> 43 C >> Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A >> Info: Processes: 196 Uptime: 11h 09m Memory: 1.79 GiB used: 896.5 >> MiB (48.8%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 >> Compilers: gcc: N/A Shell: bash v: 4.2.46 inxi: 3.0.26 >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Dec. 20, 2018

cool HW-info linux/bsd tool "inxi"

by Doug Mildram

doug> Ran into this out of the blue, and wanted to share the joy (if you like attempting to understand the gore of PC hardware.... or figure out what you just plugged in, or assembled,etc. Sample output below! I havent even studied the args/options yet. Sections I "asked for" (the options/args I used.. "inxi -Fxz" , gave me....) System,Machine,CPU,Graphics,Audio,Network,Drives,Partition,Sensors,Info. I like how it reports disk (3 below) info, with per-disk temperature! Except on an SSD on another machine, temp.=0C I like how it reports per-disk temperature! Except on an SSD, I got temp.=0C sections I asked for with : Drives: HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (5.1% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_860 size: 250.1GB temp: 0C pardon the TMI/detail+long_lines below. -doug *Inix* is available in most mainstream Linux distribution repositories, and runs on BSDs as well. $ sudo apt-get install inxi [On *Debian/Ubuntu/Linux Mint*] $ sudo yum install inxi [On *CentOs/RHEL/Fedora*] $ sudo dnf install inxi [On *Fedora 22+*] $ inxi -Fxz > System: Host: P5Q Kernel: 3.10.0-862.14.4.el7.x86_64 x86_64 bits: 64 > compiler: gcc v: 4.8.5 Console: tty 1 > Distro: CentOS Linux release 7.5.1804 (Core) > Machine: Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P5Q-PRO v: Rev 1.xx serial: > <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends > v: 2102 date: 02/23/2009 > CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 bits: 64 type: > MCP arch: Penryn rev: A > L2 cache: 6144 KiB > flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 11997 > Speed: 2003 MHz min/max: 2003/3003 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: > 2003 2: 2003 > Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV610 [Radeon HD > 2400 PRO/XT] driver: radeon v: kernel > bus ID: 01:00.0 > Display: server: X.org 1.19.5 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: > fbdev,modesetting,vesa tty: 134x42 > Message: Advanced graphics data unavailable in console. Try -G > --display > Audio: Device-1: VIA VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio > driver: snd_ice1724 v: kernel > bus ID: 05:00.0 > Sound Server: ALSA v: k3.10.0-862.14.4.el7.x86_64 > Network: Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit or Fast > Ethernet driver: ATL1E v: N/A > port: bc00 bus ID: 02:00.0 > IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter> > Device-2: Intel 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet driver: e1000 v: > 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: ec00 bus ID: 07:01.0 > IF: enp7s1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> > IF-ID-1: virbr0 state: down mac: <filter> > IF-ID-2: virbr0-nic state: down mac: <filter> > Drives: Local Storage: total: 1.41 TiB used: 398.89 GiB (27.6%) > ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HDS724040KLSA80 size: > 372.61 GiB temp: 39 C > ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD7500AACS-65D6B0 > size: 698.64 GiB temp: 35 C > ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Hitachi model: HDS724040KLSA80 size: > 372.61 GiB temp: 42 C > Partition: ID-1: / size: 64.04 GiB used: 9.41 GiB (14.7%) fs: ext4 dev: > /dev/sdb1 > Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 31.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 43 > C > Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A > Info: Processes: 196 Uptime: 11h 09m Memory: 1.79 GiB used: 896.5 MiB > (48.8%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 > Compilers: gcc: N/A Shell: bash v: 4.2.46 inxi: 3.0.26 >

Dec. 18, 2018

Offer/Request no longer open

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Keith, I can definitely give you a ride. Thanks, I'll take it. > Frank is going to give a talk about DMARC, SPF and DKIM. OK. I would like to know more about that. I won't bring the laptop; it's safer that way. > How about we plan your talk for January? It's too soon to tell. I don't know my schedule that far in advance. I'll keep the slides I have. If not next month then postpone, revise, repeat. When it finally happens, it will be more polished. Or worn off. -- Keith

Dec. 13, 2018