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YAICB (Yet Another Intel Cpu Bug) only worse...

by Tim Keller

We should definitely talk about the huge flaw that was just found the CSME on intel cpu's from the last five years and how intel has admitted it's entirely unpatchable... https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21167782/intel-processor-flaw-root-of-tru… Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 10, 2020

Re: WLUG Meeting March 12th 2019!

by Richard Klein

Meetup worked; it was already on my calendar. See you then! On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:15 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey Everybody, > > We've got a meeting! > Date @ Time: March 12, 2019 @ 7pm > Location: WPI Student Center Rm 129 (Chairman's Conference Room) at the > bottom of the stairs. > Topic: TBD but I thought we might talk about subsonic and plex. > > I guess we should also talk about people working remotely and the > technologies that exist on linux for remote desktop access as well. > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head off for dinner > afterwards. > > Sorry for the last notice. > Later, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/GG2YW… >

March 10, 2020

WLUG Meeting March 12th 2019!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting! Date @ Time: March 12, 2019 @ 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Rm 129 (Chairman's Conference Room) at the bottom of the stairs. Topic: TBD but I thought we might talk about subsonic and plex. I guess we should also talk about people working remotely and the technologies that exist on linux for remote desktop access as well. Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head off for dinner afterwards. Sorry for the last notice. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 10, 2020

Re: Greetings

by Aljerin Butler,Jr.

Hi Forrest, Linux newbie? Please feel free to explore my website. Al Butler Custom Desktop Solutions (http://customdesktopsolutions.mywebcommunity.org/) On Sunday, March 1, 2020, 2:11:06 PM EST, John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: Hi Forrest, Welcome to WLUG! Please feel free to ask any linux questions you have on this list, and please do come to the next meeting where we have a good group of people who are willing to step up and help people. I have a couple of RaspberryPis I run for various things, along with my main server I run at home for backups and file storage. We have a wide variety of people with various levels of experience and I'm sure they'll chime in soon. Cheers, John >>>>> "madserge---" == madserge--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: madserge---> My name is Forrest I am a gamer and a Linux enthusiast madserge---> that mainly uses a Arch Based distro called Manjaro. My madserge---> friend reached out to the group for me and then emailed madserge---> and told me about it so I thought I would create a madserge---> account and introduce myself. I would also like to say my madserge---> level of understanding is probably more on the beginners madserge---> level of things and have been learning slowly and would madserge---> like to learn more about other things like raspberry pis madserge---> and servers since I recently obtained a server from a madserge---> family members work because they upgraded, I will also madserge---> leave specs of the two custom built computers I own and madserge---> the name of the server I have down below, I look forward madserge---> to meeting you all next meeting. madserge---> Sincerely, madserge---> Forrest madserge---> Server: madserge---> Dell PowerEdge 2950 (Minimal Manjaro XFCE Installed) madserge---> Raid Slots 6 madserge---> Hard Disk Drives 6 (2 146GB 10K RPM, 4 600GB 15K RPM) madserge---> That's all I know atm madserge---> Custom PC's: madserge---> Current Rig madserge---> Case: NZXT H440 (EnVyUs Edition) madserge---> Mobo: ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 madserge---> GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 (11GB GDDR5X) madserge---> CPU: Intel i7 7700K Quad Core 4.2 GHz (No Overclock) madserge---> RAM: 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 madserge---> HDD: 2TB FireCuda (SSHD) + 2TB FireCuda (SSHD) + 250GB Samsung 850 EVO (SSD) + 1TB Crucial M.2 NVMe SSD madserge---> OS: Windows 10 Pro / Manjaro KDE madserge---> Other Rig madserge---> Case: NZXT H440 madserge---> Mobo: Asrock Z75 Pro3 madserge---> GPU: EVGA GTX 980Ti Hybrid (6GB GDDR5) madserge---> CPU: Intel Core i7 2600 Quad Core 3.4 GHz (Overclocked to 4GHz) madserge---> RAM: 16 GB DDR3 1600 madserge---> HDD: 2TB (7200RPM HDD) + 128GB (SSD) madserge---> OS: Windows 10 Pro 64Bit madserge---> _______________________________________________ madserge---> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org madserge---> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org madserge---> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ madserge---> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ madserge---> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/RKSIA… _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/J4O5V…

March 2, 2020

Re: Greetings

by John Stoffel

Hi Forrest, Welcome to WLUG! Please feel free to ask any linux questions you have on this list, and please do come to the next meeting where we have a good group of people who are willing to step up and help people. I have a couple of RaspberryPis I run for various things, along with my main server I run at home for backups and file storage. We have a wide variety of people with various levels of experience and I'm sure they'll chime in soon. Cheers, John >>>>> "madserge---" == madserge--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: madserge---> My name is Forrest I am a gamer and a Linux enthusiast madserge---> that mainly uses a Arch Based distro called Manjaro. My madserge---> friend reached out to the group for me and then emailed madserge---> and told me about it so I thought I would create a madserge---> account and introduce myself. I would also like to say my madserge---> level of understanding is probably more on the beginners madserge---> level of things and have been learning slowly and would madserge---> like to learn more about other things like raspberry pis madserge---> and servers since I recently obtained a server from a madserge---> family members work because they upgraded, I will also madserge---> leave specs of the two custom built computers I own and madserge---> the name of the server I have down below, I look forward madserge---> to meeting you all next meeting. madserge---> Sincerely, madserge---> Forrest madserge---> Server: madserge---> Dell PowerEdge 2950 (Minimal Manjaro XFCE Installed) madserge---> Raid Slots 6 madserge---> Hard Disk Drives 6 (2 146GB 10K RPM, 4 600GB 15K RPM) madserge---> That's all I know atm madserge---> Custom PC's: madserge---> Current Rig madserge---> Case: NZXT H440 (EnVyUs Edition) madserge---> Mobo: ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 madserge---> GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 (11GB GDDR5X) madserge---> CPU: Intel i7 7700K Quad Core 4.2 GHz (No Overclock) madserge---> RAM: 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 madserge---> HDD: 2TB FireCuda (SSHD) + 2TB FireCuda (SSHD) + 250GB Samsung 850 EVO (SSD) + 1TB Crucial M.2 NVMe SSD madserge---> OS: Windows 10 Pro / Manjaro KDE madserge---> Other Rig madserge---> Case: NZXT H440 madserge---> Mobo: Asrock Z75 Pro3 madserge---> GPU: EVGA GTX 980Ti Hybrid (6GB GDDR5) madserge---> CPU: Intel Core i7 2600 Quad Core 3.4 GHz (Overclocked to 4GHz) madserge---> RAM: 16 GB DDR3 1600 madserge---> HDD: 2TB (7200RPM HDD) + 128GB (SSD) madserge---> OS: Windows 10 Pro 64Bit madserge---> _______________________________________________ madserge---> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org madserge---> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org madserge---> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ madserge---> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ madserge---> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/RKSIA…

March 1, 2020

Greetings

by madserge＠pm.me

Hello, My name is Forrest I am a gamer and a Linux enthusiast that mainly uses a Arch Based distro called Manjaro. My friend reached out to the group for me and then emailed and told me about it so I thought I would create a account and introduce myself. I would also like to say my level of understanding is probably more on the beginners level of things and have been learning slowly and would like to learn more about other things like raspberry pis and servers since I recently obtained a server from a family members work because they upgraded, I will also leave specs of the two custom built computers I own and the name of the server I have down below, I look forward to meeting you all next meeting. Sincerely, Forrest Server: Dell PowerEdge 2950 (Minimal Manjaro XFCE Installed) Raid Slots 6 Hard Disk Drives 6 (2 146GB 10K RPM, 4 600GB 15K RPM) That's all I know atm Custom PC's: Current Rig Case: NZXT H440 (EnVyUs Edition) Mobo: ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K6 GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 (11GB GDDR5X) CPU: Intel i7 7700K Quad Core 4.2 GHz (No Overclock) RAM: 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 HDD: 2TB FireCuda (SSHD) + 2TB FireCuda (SSHD) + 250GB Samsung 850 EVO (SSD) + 1TB Crucial M.2 NVMe SSD OS: Windows 10 Pro / Manjaro KDE Other Rig Case: NZXT H440 Mobo: Asrock Z75 Pro3 GPU: EVGA GTX 980Ti Hybrid (6GB GDDR5) CPU: Intel Core i7 2600 Quad Core 3.4 GHz (Overclocked to 4GHz) RAM: 16 GB DDR3 1600 HDD: 2TB (7200RPM HDD) + 128GB (SSD) OS: Windows 10 Pro 64Bit

Feb. 28, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: GRUB failure

by Richard Klein

I'll try moving the Windows drive to the SSD's port. This computer pre-dates M.2 by quite a bit. SanDisk just approved the RMA, but it looks like they aren't shipping out a replacement until they receive the old drive: "• Our normal processing and shipping time is 7-10 business days AFTER receiving your package." -- Rich On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 4:13 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Richard> It's a 1TB SanDisk SSD Plus that I bought in July, 2018. > Richard> It's the OS drive in a computer that runs 24/7, primarily as > Richard> a Plex server, but the media is on a different, spinning > Richard> drive. > > That does sound like it died too early... do you have one of those > USB-to-SATA devices you could use to plug into another computer just > to see if it's alive? > > Another option is to install Knoppix or some other bootable distro on > a thumb drive and boot there to see what you find. > > As for the Windows and GRUB issue, I'm not expert enough to make it > work without some more details from you. It might be enough to just > move the Windows boot drive to the same port that the SSD used to be > on. Assuming it's a SATA port and not an M.2 port (which can be > SATA). > > John >

Feb. 16, 2020

Reminder: Meeting tonight! Topic: TBD! Open Forum, etc.

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting tonight! Location: WPI Campus Center Room 304 (Peterson Conference Room) Topic: TBD, open forum, etc. I'm going to show off Visual Studio Code for Linux running on my laptop with the emacs, git and python integrations I've been using. That'll probably be pretty quick and then we can open it up to a general discussion around what's going on in linux, what people are interested in and what people would like to see for topics. There will possibly be some new people since I've created the Meetup site. Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll head off for dinner afterwards. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 13, 2020

Meeting today

by Joshua Stone

Hey all, I'm sorry to say that I won't be able to attend today's meeting because I have some last minute errands to do. Sorry about that! - Josh

Feb. 13, 2020

Topics for upcoming meetings..

by Tim Keller

I've got some updates and ideas for the upcoming meetings! I've reached out to Daniel Moghimi about doing a talk regarding his work on the various security issues he's found in modern CPUs. He's agreed to speak either March or April. I'll work to finalize the details with him. I'm definitely interested in doing a Keysigning party, we'll just have to work out the logistics and what additional presentations that we'd like to go along with it. I know a while a go Eric Martin showed off a cool keyfob that had his key stored in it. I recently stumbled across a cool technology called "Node Red" which people are using to do automation stuff with IoT and MTQQ. https://www.nodered.org It allows you to create flows using their graphing engine. Another piece of software that people might find interesting is subsonic <http://www.subsonic.org/>. It lets you run your own music streaming service. This way you're not subjected to whatever algorithm spotify / pandora / etc wants to subject you to! I recently helped a buddy build a home nas to run it and it's pretty damn slick. Let me know if you have any more ideas for meeting topics! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 11, 2020

Retro-puters

by Mike Peckar

Some fun reads on retro projects in links to hackaday. I wasn't aware of the book mentioned... https://boingboing.net/2020/02/04/766826.html

Feb. 11, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: GRUB failure

by John Stoffel

Richard> It's a 1TB SanDisk SSD Plus that I bought in July, 2018. Richard> It's the OS drive in a computer that runs 24/7, primarily as Richard> a Plex server, but the media is on a different, spinning Richard> drive. That does sound like it died too early... do you have one of those USB-to-SATA devices you could use to plug into another computer just to see if it's alive? Another option is to install Knoppix or some other bootable distro on a thumb drive and boot there to see what you find. As for the Windows and GRUB issue, I'm not expert enough to make it work without some more details from you. It might be enough to just move the Windows boot drive to the same port that the SSD used to be on. Assuming it's a SATA port and not an M.2 port (which can be SATA). John

Feb. 10, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: GRUB failure

by Richard Klein

It's a 1TB SanDisk SSD Plus that I bought in July, 2018. It's the OS drive in a computer that runs 24/7, primarily as a Plex server, but the media is on a different, spinning drive. https://photos.app.goo.gl/e8AmriKjcPRdHshcA On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 9:11 PM Michael Voorhis via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Tell us more about this dead SSD. Who made it? How old was it? What > sort of load did you put on it? --MCV. > > On 2/9/20 3:24 PM, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: > > Well, the installer can't partition or write to the SSD, so I guess > > it really is dead. > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >

Feb. 10, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: sorry about the spam

by Chuck Anderson

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 01:50:00PM -0500, Keith Wright wrote: > Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > Sorry about the spam. I'm cleaning up spam from the moderator's queue > > and accidently accepted a 8 or 12 messages. > > I think I counted 14 in a few minutes. > > Thank you for your work. I'm glad to know > that someone knows why it happened, and that > it is not just another "new normal". Phew. 1900 messages deleted. Also check out the new list footer:

Feb. 10, 2020

sorry about the spam

by Chuck Anderson

Sorry about the spam. I'm cleaning up spam from the moderator's queue and accidently accepted a 8 or 12 messages.

Feb. 10, 2020

Re: sorry about the spam

by Keith Wright

Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Sorry about the spam. I'm cleaning up spam from the moderator's queue > and accidently accepted a 8 or 12 messages. I think I counted 14 in a few minutes. Thank you for your work. I'm glad to know that someone knows why it happened, and that it is not just another "new normal". -- Keith

Feb. 10, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: GRUB failure

by Michael Voorhis

Tell us more about this dead SSD. Who made it? How old was it? What sort of load did you put on it? --MCV. On 2/9/20 3:24 PM, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: > Well, the installer can't partition or write to the SSD, so I guess > it really is dead.

Feb. 9, 2020

Re: GRUB failure

by rich＠richardklein.org

Well, the installer can't partition or write to the SSD, so I guess it really is dead. Should I write a new MBR to the spinning disk that has Windows installed so I can boot to it without having the SSD installed?

Feb. 9, 2020

GRUB failure

by Richard Klein

The other day, my computer crashed to a blank, black screen. On reboot, my BIOS didn't see the SSD that held my OS. I tried swapping the SSD onto different cables and different motherboard connectors. When I started the computer back up, it saw the SSD, but gave me a GRUB rescue prompt. On the next reboot, the BIOS again didn't see the SSD. That's repeatable: warm boots make the SSD disappear; it re-appears on cold boots, but dumps me to the GRUB rescue prompt. I figured the SSD has died and I already requested an RMA, but I can't boot to my Windows drive if I remove the SSD, so maybe it's not actually dead. I don't have the patience to troubleshoot from the GRUB rescue prompt and I wasn't thrilled with Manjaro, so I'm going to try to install good, old Debian to the SSD while I wait to hear back about an RMA. -- Rich

Feb. 9, 2020

Reminder: WLUG Meeting Next Week! Topic: Modernizing the Linux Desktop

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, This is my usual reminder that we've got a meeting next week. Here's the details... Date & Time: February 13th, 2020 @ 7PM Location: WPI Campus Center Room 304 (Peterson Conference Room) Presenter: Joshua Stone Topic: Modernizing the Linux Desktop with Silver/Blue, Toolbox and Flatpak Our speaker this month is Joshua Stone. He's going to giving a talk about a couple of cool technologies in Fedora! Josh provided me some details about these innovations so I've mashed them up and included them below. Silverblue: https://fedoramagazine.org/what-is-silverblue/ Toolbox: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/toolbox/ Flatpaks: https://flatpak.org/ *Silverblue* s a Fedora variant designed around immutability where a new system image is committed as the new /sysroot without affecting the state of the running system. This is reminiscent of Android A/B updates, although the update backend -- ostree -- has elements of a version control system like git. *Toolbox* is also interesting as it lets you switch into an unprivileged development environment that can be built up and torn down without affecting the host as tools are installed inside a container. *Flatpak* uses the same file storage backend as Silverblue to manage apps and shared runtimes. This app distribution technology allows you to decouple apps and operating systems as everything is built and run inside a sandbox, making upgrades easier. Compare needing only one version of an app to package as a flatpak, versus packaging for different versions. As usual, snacks and refreshments will be provided and afterwards we'll head off for dinner to continue the conversation. Thanks, Tim Keller WLUG President -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 9, 2020

Re: Favorite email client for Linux these days?

by Jeff Moyer

Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Per the conversation regarding pgp, it got me thinking about my "email flow" > > Currently I'm using gmail in a browser, but I realize that unless I want to > install a 3rd party add-on for chrome I can't really do PGP. > > What are people using for mail clients on linux? gnus. It handles high traffic mailing lists well, and is very configurable. -Jeff

Feb. 5, 2020

Re: Favorite email client for Linux these days?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> writes: VM is a mail mode for emacs, and I've been using it for years and years. Unfortunately development is basically dead because I will never be able to learn elisp to actually contribute to the project. https://launchpad.net/vm Is where you can get it from. Use the 8.2.0b version. I can give you hints on setting it up with an IMAP server as well. It's not too bad really. Keith> John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: Keith> I use emacs in rmail mode. >> >> Wow! I used rmail years ago, before I switched to 'vm' (view-mail). Keith> What is that? >> Glad to know I'm not the only die hard emacs mail reading guy! Keith> That seems to be saying that 'vm' is an emacs mode. Keith> The usual help function does not tell me anything Keith> about it. Do I need a newer version of emacs, Keith> or is it a totally separate program? Keith> I'm not likely to quit using emacs, but I might Keith> switch minor modes. Keith> -- Keith

Feb. 3, 2020

Re: Favorite email client for Linux these days?

by Keith Wright

John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Keith> I use emacs in rmail mode. > > Wow! I used rmail years ago, before I switched to 'vm' (view-mail). What is that? > Glad to know I'm not the only die hard emacs mail reading guy! That seems to be saying that 'vm' is an emacs mode. The usual help function does not tell me anything about it. Do I need a newer version of emacs, or is it a totally separate program? I'm not likely to quit using emacs, but I might switch minor modes. -- Keith

Feb. 3, 2020

Re: Favorite email client for Linux these days?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: Keith> Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> What are people using for mail clients on linux? Keith> I use emacs in rmail mode. Wow! I used rmail years ago, before I switched to 'vm' (view-mail). Glad to know I'm not the only die hard emacs mail reading guy! Keith> I have a gmail account with address I have Keith> never told anyone (tho a couple of people Keith> have found it using gmail's spy features). Keith> I use the gmail address to send mail to Keith> myself, for testing. I run Postfix smtp server Keith> on the firewall/server/router Linux machine Keith> in my basement. Keith> Software, hardware, cables, attitude ... everything Keith> is decades obsolete and held together by cobwebs. Keith> But it does what the RFC says it MUST. Keith> -- Keith Keith> _______________________________________________ Keith> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org Keith> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

Feb. 3, 2020

Re: Favorite email client for Linux these days?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: Tim> Per the conversation regarding pgp, it got me thinking about my "email flow" Tim> Currently I'm using gmail in a browser, but I realize that unless I want to install a 3rd party Tim> add-on for chrome I can't really do PGP. Tim> What are people using for mail clients on linux? view-mail in emacs. Been 20+ years now... it handles IMAP just fine, though slowly. Going to move to mutt one day, but not yet.

Feb. 3, 2020