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Re: April WLUG meeting to be online

by hammerron

I have heard good things about Jitsi, but never tried it. On 3/31/20 10:34 AM, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > Hey Gang, > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need > virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > Later, > Tim. > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/LNHAH…

March 31, 2020

Re: April WLUG meeting to be online

by Richard Klein

Is the second Thursday of the month what we were doing? On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:35 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need > virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > Later, > Tim. > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/LNHAH… >

March 31, 2020

Re: April WLUG meeting to be online

by Richard Klein

I never got my webcam working, but I'll give Jitsi a try. On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:35 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey Gang, > > I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need > virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. > > As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. > I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. > > What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? > > Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! > > Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. > > Later, > Tim. > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/LNHAH… >

March 31, 2020

April WLUG meeting to be online

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang, I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals. As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online. I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others. What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup? Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!! Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 31, 2020

Re: TLAs are evil

by Tim Keller

I'm convinced they've writing a piece of perl that simply goes through their documentation and when it finds a three letter word simply uppercase's it. On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 4:07 PM Michael Voorhis via WLUG < wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > On 3/26/20 3:44 PM, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: > > Too damn many TLAs! > > You want TLAs? Look at some Oracle database documentation... > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/CY5QC… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 27, 2020

TLAs are evil

by Michael Voorhis

On 3/26/20 3:44 PM, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: > Too damn many TLAs! You want TLAs? Look at some Oracle database documentation...

March 26, 2020

Re: IT Revolution: Spring Reads Free eBook Promotion!

by Richard Klein

SCM = Smith-Corona Marchant On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 3:59 PM Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > Where I've used it is in teaching people > > who've never done any type of SCM > > Too damn many TLAs! [1] > > To me, SCM means Scheme. > For example: poly.scm is a program I wrote: > http://www.free-comp-shop.com/poly.html > while SCM is a implementation by Aubrey Jaffar. > > I guessed that's not what Tim meant, > so I went searching: > > Google says it stands for Supply Chain Managment, > closer but probably not right. > > Wikipedia has about 20 other meanings including: > Student Chrisian Movement -- Nope > SubCarrier Multiplexing -- Probable not > (Software Configuration | > Source Control) Management -- Yes, one of those > > Which one? If they are different. No matter. > How could I know? Why should I care? > > -- Keith > > [1] TLA - Three Letter Acronym > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/PATDI… >

March 26, 2020

Re: IT Revolution: Spring Reads Free eBook Promotion!

by Keith Wright

Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Where I've used it is in teaching people > who've never done any type of SCM Too damn many TLAs! [1] To me, SCM means Scheme. For example: poly.scm is a program I wrote: http://www.free-comp-shop.com/poly.html while SCM is a implementation by Aubrey Jaffar. I guessed that's not what Tim meant, so I went searching: Google says it stands for Supply Chain Managment, closer but probably not right. Wikipedia has about 20 other meanings including: Student Chrisian Movement -- Nope SubCarrier Multiplexing -- Probable not (Software Configuration | Source Control) Management -- Yes, one of those Which one? If they are different. No matter. How could I know? Why should I care? -- Keith [1] TLA - Three Letter Acronym

March 26, 2020

Re: IT Revolution: Spring Reads Free eBook Promotion!

by Tim Keller

Where I've used it is in teaching people who've never done any type of SCM as a group how to structure a project and how the branch / merge model should work and how to resolve merge conflicts, etc. I can't say I've read it cover to cover, but I've read chapters and used it as a reference a whole lot. There's another excellent book that costs nothing on amazon called "Ry's Git" which is a really thin to the point book about git. However, he's got a great chapter on the inner workings of git which I found both fascinating and educational. I still feel bad for the monotone guy... On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 2:23 PM Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I never read the book though I’ve read his blog posts and found an immense > amount of utility from. I’ll have to pick that up. > > On Mar 26, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Since we're talking about free books, I've gotten endless amounts of use > out of the "git flow" book which you can find free everywhere. I bought > mine here: https://leanpub.com/git-flow > You can kick the guy as little or as much as you want. > > Tim. > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 5:15 PM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> But Steam is giving away Tomb Raider (2013). Read work related book or >> play good video game? >> >> On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 13:11 -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote: >> > WPI, er, Microsoft filed this in my junk-mail, FYI. If there are >> > others >> > here who might be interested in a DevOps book free-for-24-hours and >> > you >> > didn't see Eric's email, check your junk-folder. >> > >> > --MCV. >> > >> > On 3/24/20 1:49 PM, Eric Martin via WLUG wrote: >> > > I figured we all like good books for free. The days are off by one >> > > (DevOps Handbook is today) and on all of the platforms. >> > > >> > > Eric >> > _______________________________________________ >> > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> > Change Settings: >> > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> > Web Forum/Archive: >> > >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/M42SZ… >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/HLFVH… >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 26, 2020

Re: IT Revolution: Spring Reads Free eBook Promotion!

by Eric Martin

I never read the book though I’ve read his blog posts and found an immense amount of utility from. I’ll have to pick that up. > On Mar 26, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Since we're talking about free books, I've gotten endless amounts of use out of the "git flow" book which you can find free everywhere. I bought mine here: https://leanpub.com/git-flow <https://leanpub.com/git-flow> > You can kick the guy as little or as much as you want. > > Tim. > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 5:15 PM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: > But Steam is giving away Tomb Raider (2013). Read work related book or > play good video game? > > On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 13:11 -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote: > > WPI, er, Microsoft filed this in my junk-mail, FYI. If there are > > others > > here who might be interested in a DevOps book free-for-24-hours and > > you > > didn't see Eric's email, check your junk-folder. > > > > --MCV. > > > > On 3/24/20 1:49 PM, Eric Martin via WLUG wrote: > > > I figured we all like good books for free. The days are off by one > > > (DevOps Handbook is today) and on all of the platforms. > > > > > > Eric > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ <https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/> > > Change Settings: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ <https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/> > > Web Forum/Archive: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/M42SZ… <https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/M42SZ…> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ <https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/> > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ <https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/> > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/HLFVH… <https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/HLFVH…> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 26, 2020

Re: Fwd: IT Revolution: Spring Reads Free eBook Promotion!

by Tim Keller

Since we're talking about free books, I've gotten endless amounts of use out of the "git flow" book which you can find free everywhere. I bought mine here: https://leanpub.com/git-flow You can kick the guy as little or as much as you want. Tim. On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 5:15 PM Dennis Payne via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > But Steam is giving away Tomb Raider (2013). Read work related book or > play good video game? > > On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 13:11 -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote: > > WPI, er, Microsoft filed this in my junk-mail, FYI. If there are > > others > > here who might be interested in a DevOps book free-for-24-hours and > > you > > didn't see Eric's email, check your junk-folder. > > > > --MCV. > > > > On 3/24/20 1:49 PM, Eric Martin via WLUG wrote: > > > I figured we all like good books for free. The days are off by one > > > (DevOps Handbook is today) and on all of the platforms. > > > > > > Eric > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/M42SZ… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/HLFVH… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 26, 2020

Re: Fwd: IT Revolution: Spring Reads Free eBook Promotion!

by Dennis Payne

But Steam is giving away Tomb Raider (2013). Read work related book or play good video game? On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 13:11 -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote: > WPI, er, Microsoft filed this in my junk-mail, FYI. If there are > others > here who might be interested in a DevOps book free-for-24-hours and > you > didn't see Eric's email, check your junk-folder. > > --MCV. > > On 3/24/20 1:49 PM, Eric Martin via WLUG wrote: > > I figured we all like good books for free. The days are off by one > > (DevOps Handbook is today) and on all of the platforms. > > > > Eric > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/M42SZ…

March 25, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by Chris Thompson

I know it's been mentioned, but wanted to point to two instances of it I use frequently and offer some additional feedback. There's the "premier" one, which is at https://meet.jit.si/ and is very often running the very latest version. The Mayfirst COOP also hosts an instance at https://meet.mayfirst.org/ This doesn't tend to be upgraded quite so frequently, so unless it lands on a poor version, it's a great one to use. Usually "just works" on phone/desktop fine. It can be a little glitchy, and has not often performed very well for my coop more than about 10 participants or so. Desktop sharing, video, audio, and chat as well as other features all function well on GNU/Linux save for some difficulty I had with Sway WM/Wayland (which may well have been my shortcoming). I'm not sure how dependent the limits we've seen are dependent upon the infrastructure available, but I'm told it's not terribly difficult to deploy an instance, but have yet to try myself. FWIW, nearly every time, a quick page refresh (or two) for whomever is having issues gets things working. TBH, it's best to have a backup connection when using Jitsi (i.e. text msg, etherpad, or IRC or whatever), or else to work with more experienced users - e.g. those that will notice a message/open the chat pane to read that they cannot be heard and to either un-mute or else refresh their page. --Chris On 3/25/20 11:53 AM, Bradley Noyes via WLUG wrote: > I have never used this software, but apparently nextcloud can do some > kind of video conferencing with their package call “spreed" > > https://github.com/nextcloud/spreed > > > > >> On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:55, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG >> <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: >> >> How much do you care about it being *VIDEO* by the way? If it's not >> important, there's always Mumble... >> >> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Michael Voorhis via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:53:52 AM >> *To:* Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion >> <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> >> *Cc:* Voorhis, Michael C <mvoorhis(a)wpi.edu >> <mailto:mvoorhis@wpi.edu>>; Joshua Stone <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:joshua.gage.stone@gmail.com>> >> *Subject:* [EXT] [WLUG] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ? >> >> On 3/25/20 10:38 AM, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: >> > Zoom is a good option if using a Pro subscription. >> >> We're digressing a bit from the discussion-topic which is *free* >> videoconferencing. My email was in retrospect ambiguous; I made >> assumptions based on the listenership of my email. >> >> I was asking about FOSS videoconferencing. Jitsi appears to be the only >> answer at this point. >> >> Thanks all, >> >> --MCV. >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> >> Create Account: >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… >> Change Settings: >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> <mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/4ER6X… > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/UH6HX…

March 25, 2020

Re: Fwd: IT Revolution: Spring Reads Free eBook Promotion!

by Michael Voorhis

WPI, er, Microsoft filed this in my junk-mail, FYI. If there are others here who might be interested in a DevOps book free-for-24-hours and you didn't see Eric's email, check your junk-folder. --MCV. On 3/24/20 1:49 PM, Eric Martin via WLUG wrote: > I figured we all like good books for free. The days are off by one > (DevOps Handbook is today) and on all of the platforms. > > Eric

March 25, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by Bradley Noyes

I have never used this software, but apparently nextcloud can do some kind of video conferencing with their package call “spreed" https://github.com/nextcloud/spreed <https://github.com/nextcloud/spreed> > On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:55, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > How much do you care about it being *VIDEO* by the way? If it's not important, there's always Mumble... > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> > From: Michael Voorhis via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:53:52 AM > To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > Cc: Voorhis, Michael C <mvoorhis(a)wpi.edu>; Joshua Stone <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ? > > On 3/25/20 10:38 AM, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > > Zoom is a good option if using a Pro subscription. > > We're digressing a bit from the discussion-topic which is *free* > videoconferencing. My email was in retrospect ambiguous; I made > assumptions based on the listenership of my email. > > I was asking about FOSS videoconferencing. Jitsi appears to be the only > answer at this point. > > Thanks all, > > --MCV. > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> > Change Settings: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> > Web Forum/Archive: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/4ER6X…

March 25, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by Krichevsky, Nicholas J.

How much do you care about it being *VIDEO* by the way? If it's not important, there's always Mumble... Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: Michael Voorhis via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:53:52 AM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: Voorhis, Michael C <mvoorhis(a)wpi.edu>; Joshua Stone <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ? On 3/25/20 10:38 AM, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > Zoom is a good option if using a Pro subscription. We're digressing a bit from the discussion-topic which is *free* videoconferencing. My email was in retrospect ambiguous; I made assumptions based on the listenership of my email. I was asking about FOSS videoconferencing. Jitsi appears to be the only answer at this point. Thanks all, --MCV. _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… Change Settings: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… Web Forum/Archive: https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…

March 25, 2020

Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by Michael Voorhis

On 3/25/20 10:38 AM, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > Zoom is a good option if using a Pro subscription. We're digressing a bit from the discussion-topic which is *free* videoconferencing. My email was in retrospect ambiguous; I made assumptions based on the listenership of my email. I was asking about FOSS videoconferencing. Jitsi appears to be the only answer at this point. Thanks all, --MCV.

March 25, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: [EXT] Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by Joshua Stone

Zoom is a good option if using a Pro subscription. Lots of businesses seem to depend on it for remote meetings thanks to the pandemic. It has some nice features like video recording which could be used for sharing on Youtube, and it doesn't require new users to create an account for meetups. I think Discord is also a good option with all of the features it provides as a chat platform. I've been using it for remote D&D sessions. One major downside of the Linux client is that you'll likely have to use a workaround for a bug that causes video calls to eventually crash the client: https://github.com/flathub/com.discordapp.Discord/issues/30 I've been using a Gnome Shell extension to fix this: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/615/appindicator-support/ - Josh On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 13:46 +0000, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG wrote: > Zoom, aside from not being FOSS, limits calls to 40 minutes without > paying. If we only care about free as in beer Discord is a great > option, but if we care about free in the other sense, then I'm not > sure I know if anything. > > > > > > > Get Outlook for Android > > > From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:44:41 AM > > To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > > Cc: Anderson, Charles R <cra(a)wpi.edu>; Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > > Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: [EXT] Free, viable videoconferencing ? > > > > > My kids have been using the Zoom plugin on Chrome on the chromebook > so it'll work on linux. > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:14 PM Chuck Anderson via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 07:48:12PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG > > wrote: > > > > > Does viable free videoconferencing software exist? > > > > > > > > Jitsi has been mentioned here before. I haven't looked into it: > > > > > > > > https://stackshare.io/stackups/jitsi-vs-zoom > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > Create Account: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > > > Change Settings: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > > > Web Forum/Archive: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KS3FX… > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________WLUG mailing list -- > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/EIYAM…

March 25, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: [EXT] Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by Krichevsky, Nicholas J.

Zoom, aside from not being FOSS, limits calls to 40 minutes without paying. If we only care about free as in beer Discord is a great option, but if we care about free in the other sense, then I'm not sure I know if anything. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:44:41 AM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: Anderson, Charles R <cra(a)wpi.edu>; Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: [EXT] Free, viable videoconferencing ? My kids have been using the Zoom plugin on Chrome on the chromebook so it'll work on linux. On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:14 PM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 07:48:12PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote: > Does viable free videoconferencing software exist? Jitsi has been mentioned here before. I haven't looked into it: https://stackshare.io/stackups/jitsi-vs-zoom<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstackshar…> _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KS3FX…<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…> -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 25, 2020

Re: [EXT] Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by Tim Keller

My kids have been using the Zoom plugin on Chrome on the chromebook so it'll work on linux. On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:14 PM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 07:48:12PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote: > > Does viable free videoconferencing software exist? > > Jitsi has been mentioned here before. I haven't looked into it: > > https://stackshare.io/stackups/jitsi-vs-zoom > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KS3FX… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 25, 2020

Re: [EXT] Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 07:48:12PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote: > Does viable free videoconferencing software exist? Jitsi has been mentioned here before. I haven't looked into it: https://stackshare.io/stackups/jitsi-vs-zoom

March 25, 2020

Free, viable videoconferencing ?

by Michael Voorhis

Does viable free videoconferencing software exist? --MCV.

March 24, 2020

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March 24, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: Physical WLUG Meeting is cancelled tomorrow...

by Tim Keller

Richard, I'm also using hexchat on debian and it works great. I think it's what "xchat" turned into. Later, Tim. On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:33 PM Richard Klein via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I've got HexChat up and running on Debian. I'll look for it next time I > boot into Windows. > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:29 PM hammerron via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> Rich, >> >> Just fyi, I use hexchat >> >> It seems pretty easy to operate >> >> Ron >> On 3/22/20 9:05 AM, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: >> >> I vaguely remember mirc. Neither mirc nor pirch were available through >> the Microsoft Store. I installed something, but never got around to trying >> it, and now I'm wfh on my own computer. I'll still be booting into Windows >> for work, so, whatever it was, I'll probably install it again. Now I'm >> trying to decide on an IRC client for Debian/Gnome... >> >> -- >> Rich >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 5:04 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG < >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >>> (PS - moderator, please ignore my last post from the incorrect >>> address...doh! sorry.) >>> >>> LOL Chuck. That's not very nice, but...funny! :P >>> >>> Sorry to hear you are stuck with Windows 'cause of "the man". Haven't >>> used it for a rather long time now, so I dunno if these still even >>> exist, but mIRC I think was the last I used (before that Pirch rings a >>> bell). >>> >>> There are great Web-based interfaces if you are maintaining a server >>> somewhere - my favorite there is the node implementation called "The >>> Lounge". https://thelounge.chat/docs Nice thing is it'll stay connected >>> for >>> you so you won't miss messages. >>> >>> --Chris >>> >>> On 3/18/20 2:30 PM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote: >>> > format c: >>> > >>> > (make sure to run from a CMD window with Administrator privileges) >>> > >>> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:22:25PM -0400, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: >>> >> Do you guys have a favorite IRC client for Windows? >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:28 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG < >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> I would certainly recommend organizing in IRC, but for more >>> interaction, >>> >>> Jitsi is worth a shot. >>> >>> >>> >>> Zoom does work very well on Gnu/Linux, but yes - proprietary, so, >>> >>> personally not interested in using them more than I already am >>> coerced to >>> >>> :P >>> >>> >>> >>> Jitsi usually handles rooms with up to about a dozen people pretty >>> well, >>> >>> but often struggles beyond that. Most issues are resolved with a >>> simple >>> >>> reload of the page. >>> >>> >>> >>> Try it out @ either of these instances, no registration require: >>> >>> >>> >>> https://meet.jit.si/ (typically pretty bleeding-edge, so sometimes >>> less >>> >>> stable) >>> >>> >>> >>> or: >>> >>> >>> >>> https://meet.mayfirst.org/ (pretty up to date, but generally more >>> stable >>> >>> of late) >>> >>> >>> >>> Tim, you may be able to recover your ident info with the following, >>> once >>> >>> you've connected with #Freenode. If the name is registered with >>> >>> NickServ, it'll email you at the registered address: >>> >>> >>> >>> /msg NickServ SENDPASS turbox >>> >>> >>> >>> --Chris >>> >>> IRC: wolcen >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/18/20 11:28 AM, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: >>> >>>>> Subject: [WLUG] Re: Physical WLUG Meeting is cancelled tomorrow... >>> >>>>> From: madserge--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Never used IRC before but I do have an app on Manjaro called >>> >>>>> Konversation that I think is a IRC client, would like to join if >>> anyone >>> >>>>> can tell me any info about the chat room that would be great! >>> >>>> How did this work? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I used IRC once before. A friend said "let's try this", >>> >>>> and told me what program to run and how to start. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> The conversation went something like: >>> >>>> Hi, are you there? Yes. It works! Yes. Well goodbye. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> That was many years ago, and I have forgotten the name >>> >>>> of the program. Then I got busy and forgot the WLUG >>> >>>> meeting entirely. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Diane has been using something called Zoom on Windows. >>> >>>> Google turns up some hints that Zoom can work on Linux, >>> >>>> but it seems to be a binary mystery code that connects >>> >>>> to the mother ship and does secret stuff...anybody know? >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> > Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> > Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/YCS6I… >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/4HCI5… >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/NZRMC… >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/7UPSJ… >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3KX53… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

March 23, 2020

Re: [EXT] Re: Physical WLUG Meeting is cancelled tomorrow...

by Richard Klein

I've got HexChat up and running on Debian. I'll look for it next time I boot into Windows. On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:29 PM hammerron via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Rich, > > Just fyi, I use hexchat > > It seems pretty easy to operate > > Ron > On 3/22/20 9:05 AM, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: > > I vaguely remember mirc. Neither mirc nor pirch were available through > the Microsoft Store. I installed something, but never got around to trying > it, and now I'm wfh on my own computer. I'll still be booting into Windows > for work, so, whatever it was, I'll probably install it again. Now I'm > trying to decide on an IRC client for Debian/Gnome... > > -- > Rich > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 5:04 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >> (PS - moderator, please ignore my last post from the incorrect >> address...doh! sorry.) >> >> LOL Chuck. That's not very nice, but...funny! :P >> >> Sorry to hear you are stuck with Windows 'cause of "the man". Haven't >> used it for a rather long time now, so I dunno if these still even >> exist, but mIRC I think was the last I used (before that Pirch rings a >> bell). >> >> There are great Web-based interfaces if you are maintaining a server >> somewhere - my favorite there is the node implementation called "The >> Lounge". https://thelounge.chat/docs Nice thing is it'll stay connected >> for >> you so you won't miss messages. >> >> --Chris >> >> On 3/18/20 2:30 PM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote: >> > format c: >> > >> > (make sure to run from a CMD window with Administrator privileges) >> > >> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:22:25PM -0400, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote: >> >> Do you guys have a favorite IRC client for Windows? >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:28 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG < >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I would certainly recommend organizing in IRC, but for more >> interaction, >> >>> Jitsi is worth a shot. >> >>> >> >>> Zoom does work very well on Gnu/Linux, but yes - proprietary, so, >> >>> personally not interested in using them more than I already am >> coerced to >> >>> :P >> >>> >> >>> Jitsi usually handles rooms with up to about a dozen people pretty >> well, >> >>> but often struggles beyond that. Most issues are resolved with a >> simple >> >>> reload of the page. >> >>> >> >>> Try it out @ either of these instances, no registration require: >> >>> >> >>> https://meet.jit.si/ (typically pretty bleeding-edge, so sometimes >> less >> >>> stable) >> >>> >> >>> or: >> >>> >> >>> https://meet.mayfirst.org/ (pretty up to date, but generally more >> stable >> >>> of late) >> >>> >> >>> Tim, you may be able to recover your ident info with the following, >> once >> >>> you've connected with #Freenode. If the name is registered with >> >>> NickServ, it'll email you at the registered address: >> >>> >> >>> /msg NickServ SENDPASS turbox >> >>> >> >>> --Chris >> >>> IRC: wolcen >> >>> >> >>> On 3/18/20 11:28 AM, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: >> >>>>> Subject: [WLUG] Re: Physical WLUG Meeting is cancelled tomorrow... >> >>>>> From: madserge--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Never used IRC before but I do have an app on Manjaro called >> >>>>> Konversation that I think is a IRC client, would like to join if >> anyone >> >>>>> can tell me any info about the chat room that would be great! >> >>>> How did this work? >> >>>> >> >>>> I used IRC once before. A friend said "let's try this", >> >>>> and told me what program to run and how to start. >> >>>> >> >>>> The conversation went something like: >> >>>> Hi, are you there? Yes. It works! Yes. Well goodbye. >> >>>> >> >>>> That was many years ago, and I have forgotten the name >> >>>> of the program. Then I got busy and forgot the WLUG >> >>>> meeting entirely. >> >>>> >> >>>> Diane has been using something called Zoom on Windows. >> >>>> Google turns up some hints that Zoom can work on Linux, >> >>>> but it seems to be a binary mystery code that connects >> >>>> to the mother ship and does secret stuff...anybody know? >> > _______________________________________________ >> > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> > Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> > Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/YCS6I… >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/4HCI5… >> > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/NZRMC… > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/7UPSJ… >

March 22, 2020