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Re: Meeting THIS WEEK, July 10th, 2025! Topic: ?TrueNAS? Pi Kiosk displays?

by Tracie Winslow

Ooh! I've read about using Tailscale with a pi-hole, but I haven't seen it in action. I'm looking forward to it! *"For a long time it seemed to me that life was about to begin - real life. But there was always some obstacle in the way, something to be gotten through first, some unfinished business, time still to be served, a debt to be paid. At last it dawned on me that these obstacles were my life. This perspective has helped me to see there is no way to happiness. Happiness is the way. So treasure every moment you have and remember that time waits for no one."*- Souza On Fri, Jul 11, 2025, 7:12 AM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I recently bought for my pi5 an actual cooler amd a hat that'll let me > connect a m.2. > > I've hinted at setting up a zulip server and other stuff on it and then > serving it over a tailsacale funnel. > > Time to put actually do it and present it.. > > So, I guess we've got a topic for August! > > Tim. > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025, 5:46 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >> >>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> > I am interested in a pihole as well. I also just got an N150 mini pc >> for things like this. I am >> > particulary interested in doing this with docker images. When I tried >> to install a docker >> > recursive DNS server that I trust, It needed a Email address, which I >> did not want to place on my >> > internet email provider. So now I have to install a EMail server for >> pihole. (recusion sucks). >> >> > Another area of interest for me might be the consequences of CGNET >> > (if any) for a DYNDNS setup for a personal home page and similar >> > things. There is a small possibility that I will have fiber >> > available in the next couple of months and the provider apparently >> > uses CGNET. >> >> I use dyndns for my stoffel.org domain, so I have a couple of records >> in there, two are dynamic DNS which means the router at the remote >> location will send out updates if the WAN site IP changes. This makes >> it nice to get home via SSH if need be. >> >> What I'd like to see is a discussion on setting up and using wireguard >> to access home system(s) or networks from remote locations. I started >> playing with it, but got bogged down and never made any progress. >> >> I'm using OPNsense as my home firewall. And of course testing remote >> access is a pain. I've got wireguard on my phone, but haven't made >> the testing part work quite yet. >> >

July 11, 2025

Sorry about the A/V issues last night on Jitsi..

by Tim Keller

To our members on the Jitsi call, sorry. Last night was *rough.* we tested stuff at our end and the issue was definitely at the Jitsi side of things. We may have to explore a different platform for the virtual meetings.. Thanks for the patience. Tim.

July 11, 2025

Re: Meeting THIS WEEK, July 10th, 2025! Topic: ?TrueNAS? Pi Kiosk displays?

by Tim Keller

I recently bought for my pi5 an actual cooler amd a hat that'll let me connect a m.2. I've hinted at setting up a zulip server and other stuff on it and then serving it over a tailsacale funnel. Time to put actually do it and present it.. So, I guess we've got a topic for August! Tim. I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". On Thu, Jul 10, 2025, 5:46 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > I am interested in a pihole as well. I also just got an N150 mini pc > for things like this. I am > > particulary interested in doing this with docker images. When I tried > to install a docker > > recursive DNS server that I trust, It needed a Email address, which I > did not want to place on my > > internet email provider. So now I have to install a EMail server for > pihole. (recusion sucks). > > > Another area of interest for me might be the consequences of CGNET > > (if any) for a DYNDNS setup for a personal home page and similar > > things. There is a small possibility that I will have fiber > > available in the next couple of months and the provider apparently > > uses CGNET. > > I use dyndns for my stoffel.org domain, so I have a couple of records > in there, two are dynamic DNS which means the router at the remote > location will send out updates if the WAN site IP changes. This makes > it nice to get home via SSH if need be. > > What I'd like to see is a discussion on setting up and using wireguard > to access home system(s) or networks from remote locations. I started > playing with it, but got bogged down and never made any progress. > > I'm using OPNsense as my home firewall. And of course testing remote > access is a pain. I've got wireguard on my phone, but haven't made > the testing part work quite yet. >

July 11, 2025

Re: Sox question

by gmcaplan＠gmcaplan.org

Thank you. I will study this and reply in detail soon. George On 2025-07-10 6:05 pm, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: >>>>>> "gmcaplan---" == gmcaplan--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >>>>>> writes: > >> I have tried to get an answer to this question thru Stackexachange, >> but >> they give me bureaucratic reasons why this question does not qualify >> for >> an answer. Maybe one of you can give me some guidance. Here is the >> question: > > Hahahahahaha! Stack exchange, the only place where you post a > question, then login as a different account and give a _wrong_ > answer, so people will jump all over things to give a correct answer! > > >> I am running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. I use this command line to record from >> either Line In or microphone: > > > >> sox -t alsa default \Desktop/FTC/RecdMsg$(date >> +"%Yx%mx%dx%Ix%Mx%Sx%p")x1.mp3 > > Do you really use a \ instead of / at the start? > > >> A cable is always plugged into Line In. If I plug a microphone into >> the >> Front Microphone connector, this command line records from the mic. If >> I >> physically unplug the mic, I can record from Line In. > > So I suspect this might actually be a hardware problem. Can you > provide more details on your motherboard and sound system? 'lspci' > output might help. dmesg, etc. > >> I hope someone can help me: >> a. Create a similar command that always records from Line In >> b. Create a similar command that always records from Front Microphone >> c. Create a command that asks me which input I want to use > > > What does the output of 'amixer' show on your system? > > Or the output of: arecord -l > > give? This URL might help at little bit as well, though it is old: > > https://askubuntu.com/questions/891623/how-to-list-access-all-the-available… > > > But do your a-c questions, I'd just setup some bash aliases, or > scripts to do what I want, something sorta like this, though I'm not > sure on the exact sox args to use. And I know my alias needs > work. but the idea is: > >> alias recmic='sox rec -t alsa $(date > >> +"%Yx%mx%dx%Ix%Mx%Sx%p")-$o.mp3' > > Then to use it do you: > >> o=file >> recmic > > and it would save to <datestring>-file.mp3 > > Or you setup an alias like the above called: > >> alias recline='sox rec -t alsa ....' > > > > And here's something that looks really useful: > > https://websites.umich.edu/~diehl/LinuxHomeRecording.pdf > > > And have you tried using 'audacity' for your recording needs as well? > It's a GUI and might help you do some quick stuff, or at least help > you figure out which port(s) to specify. > > Even better, try to come to a meeting and bring your hardware and > we'll sit down and work with you to make it all work! > > Cheers, > John > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/43GGV…

July 10, 2025

Re: Sox question

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "gmcaplan---" == gmcaplan--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > I have tried to get an answer to this question thru Stackexachange, but > they give me bureaucratic reasons why this question does not qualify for > an answer. Maybe one of you can give me some guidance. Here is the > question: Hahahahahaha! Stack exchange, the only place where you post a question, then login as a different account and give a _wrong_ answer, so people will jump all over things to give a correct answer! > I am running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. I use this command line to record from > either Line In or microphone: > sox -t alsa default \Desktop/FTC/RecdMsg$(date > +"%Yx%mx%dx%Ix%Mx%Sx%p")x1.mp3 Do you really use a \ instead of / at the start? > A cable is always plugged into Line In. If I plug a microphone into the > Front Microphone connector, this command line records from the mic. If I > physically unplug the mic, I can record from Line In. So I suspect this might actually be a hardware problem. Can you provide more details on your motherboard and sound system? 'lspci' output might help. dmesg, etc. > I hope someone can help me: > a. Create a similar command that always records from Line In > b. Create a similar command that always records from Front Microphone > c. Create a command that asks me which input I want to use What does the output of 'amixer' show on your system? Or the output of: arecord -l give? This URL might help at little bit as well, though it is old: https://askubuntu.com/questions/891623/how-to-list-access-all-the-available… But do your a-c questions, I'd just setup some bash aliases, or scripts to do what I want, something sorta like this, though I'm not sure on the exact sox args to use. And I know my alias needs work. but the idea is: > alias recmic='sox rec -t alsa $(date > +"%Yx%mx%dx%Ix%Mx%Sx%p")-$o.mp3' Then to use it do you: > o=file > recmic and it would save to <datestring>-file.mp3 Or you setup an alias like the above called: > alias recline='sox rec -t alsa ....' And here's something that looks really useful: https://websites.umich.edu/~diehl/LinuxHomeRecording.pdf And have you tried using 'audacity' for your recording needs as well? It's a GUI and might help you do some quick stuff, or at least help you figure out which port(s) to specify. Even better, try to come to a meeting and bring your hardware and we'll sit down and work with you to make it all work! Cheers, John

July 10, 2025

Re: Reminder WLUG Meeting tonight! Topic PiHole / Cadoodle!

by Tim Keller

Absolutely! All cool setups are welcome! On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 5:47 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Tracie" == Tracie Winslow via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > Actually, I was hoping I could show my pi-hole on my Linux mini-pc, > > along with my setup of cloudflared to go with it. > > Please bring it and we'll make the time to show it! > > > -- > > "For a long time it seemed to me that life was about to begin - real > life. But there was always > > some obstacle in the way, something to be gotten through first, some > unfinished business, time > > still to be served, a debt to be paid. At last it dawned on me that > these obstacles were my life. > > This perspective has helped me to see there is no way to happiness. > Happiness is the way. So > > treasure every moment you have and remember that time waits for no one." > > - Souza > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:17 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > > > Hey Everybody! > > > We've got a wlug meeting tonight! > > Time: 7pm > > Date: TODAY!!! July 10th, 2024 > > Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland Ave. Worcester MA > > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > > > Topic: Ad blocking and CAD! > > I'm going to give a quick demo of a PiHole server I literally built > this afternoon running on > > a Pi5. Pi-Hole is DNS blackholing software that drastically reduces > how many ads get served to > > your browser! > > > Cadoodle! Kevin has finally gotten Cadoodle to a place where he > wants to show it to the world > > so we're going to let him show off his great piece of software! > > > As usual, we'll go out to dinner after the meeting and keep up the > conversation! > > Later, > > Tim. > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as > > "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/BVGEQ… > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/IRNUG… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 10, 2025

Re: Reminder WLUG Meeting tonight! Topic PiHole / Cadoodle!

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tracie" == Tracie Winslow via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Actually, I was hoping I could show my pi-hole on my Linux mini-pc, > along with my setup of cloudflared to go with it. Please bring it and we'll make the time to show it! > -- > "For a long time it seemed to me that life was about to begin - real life. But there was always > some obstacle in the way, something to be gotten through first, some unfinished business, time > still to be served, a debt to be paid. At last it dawned on me that these obstacles were my life. > This perspective has helped me to see there is no way to happiness. Happiness is the way. So > treasure every moment you have and remember that time waits for no one." > - Souza > On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:17 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey Everybody! > We've got a wlug meeting tonight! > Time: 7pm > Date: TODAY!!! July 10th, 2024 > Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland Ave. Worcester MA > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > Topic: Ad blocking and CAD! > I'm going to give a quick demo of a PiHole server I literally built this afternoon running on > a Pi5. Pi-Hole is DNS blackholing software that drastically reduces how many ads get served to > your browser! > Cadoodle! Kevin has finally gotten Cadoodle to a place where he wants to show it to the world > so we're going to let him show off his great piece of software! > As usual, we'll go out to dinner after the meeting and keep up the conversation! > Later, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as > "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/BVGEQ… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/IRNUG…

July 10, 2025

Re: Meeting THIS WEEK, July 10th, 2025! Topic: ?TrueNAS? Pi Kiosk displays?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > I am interested in a pihole as well. I also just got an N150 mini pc for things like this. I am > particulary interested in doing this with docker images. When I tried to install a docker > recursive DNS server that I trust, It needed a Email address, which I did not want to place on my > internet email provider. So now I have to install a EMail server for pihole. (recusion sucks). > Another area of interest for me might be the consequences of CGNET > (if any) for a DYNDNS setup for a personal home page and similar > things. There is a small possibility that I will have fiber > available in the next couple of months and the provider apparently > uses CGNET. I use dyndns for my stoffel.org domain, so I have a couple of records in there, two are dynamic DNS which means the router at the remote location will send out updates if the WAN site IP changes. This makes it nice to get home via SSH if need be. What I'd like to see is a discussion on setting up and using wireguard to access home system(s) or networks from remote locations. I started playing with it, but got bogged down and never made any progress. I'm using OPNsense as my home firewall. And of course testing remote access is a pain. I've got wireguard on my phone, but haven't made the testing part work quite yet.

July 10, 2025

Re: Meeting THIS WEEK, July 10th, 2025! Topic: ?TrueNAS? Pi Kiosk displays?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Harrington via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > I would like to do a proper introduction to CaDoodle now that it's released as beta! Excellent! > On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 1:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey Everybody! > We've got a meeting this week! > Date: July 10th, 2025 @ 7PM > Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA. > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > Topic: I could talk about TrueNAS if people were interested in that, otherwise, this might be > a bit of a freeform meeting. The other thing that I've been doing lately is turning Pi's into > kiosk displays.. but that's going to take about 10 minutes to explain.. > If someone has something they really want to talk about let me know! > As usual we'll head off to dinner afterwards and keep talking. > See you there! > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as > "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/XQUZT… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/JEFG4…

July 10, 2025

Re: Reminder WLUG Meeting tonight! Topic PiHole / Cadoodle!

by Tracie Winslow

Actually, I was hoping I could show my pi-hole on my Linux mini-pc, along with my setup of cloudflared to go with it. -- *"For a long time it seemed to me that life was about to begin - real life. But there was always some obstacle in the way, something to be gotten through first, some unfinished business, time still to be served, a debt to be paid. At last it dawned on me that these obstacles were my life. This perspective has helped me to see there is no way to happiness. Happiness is the way. So treasure every moment you have and remember that time waits for no one."*- Souza On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 4:17 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey Everybody! > > We've got a wlug meeting tonight! > Time: 7pm > Date: TODAY!!! July 10th, 2024 > Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland Ave. Worcester MA > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > > Topic: Ad blocking and CAD! > I'm going to give a quick demo of a PiHole server I literally built this > afternoon running on a Pi5. Pi-Hole is DNS blackholing software that > drastically reduces how many ads get served to your browser! > > Cadoodle! Kevin has finally gotten Cadoodle to a place where he wants to > show it to the world so we're going to let him show off his great piece of > software! > > As usual, we'll go out to dinner after the meeting and keep up the > conversation! > Later, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/BVGEQ… >

July 10, 2025

Reminder WLUG Meeting tonight! Topic PiHole / Cadoodle!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! We've got a wlug meeting tonight! Time: 7pm Date: TODAY!!! July 10th, 2024 Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland Ave. Worcester MA Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: Ad blocking and CAD! I'm going to give a quick demo of a PiHole server I literally built this afternoon running on a Pi5. Pi-Hole is DNS blackholing software that drastically reduces how many ads get served to your browser! Cadoodle! Kevin has finally gotten Cadoodle to a place where he wants to show it to the world so we're going to let him show off his great piece of software! As usual, we'll go out to dinner after the meeting and keep up the conversation! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 10, 2025

Re: Meeting THIS WEEK, July 10th, 2025! Topic: ?TrueNAS? Pi Kiosk displays?

by eroc1990

Something like Tailscale Funnel might meet your needs with CGNAT. https://tailscale.com/kb/1223/funnel You would need a cheap VPS to act as the funnel entry but those are fairly inexpensive these days. -------- Original Message -------- On 7/9/25 9:22 PM, Kevin Stratton via WLUG wrote: > I am interested in a pihole as well. I also just got an N150 mini pc for things like this. I am particulary interested in doing this with docker images. When I tried to install a docker recursive DNS server that I trust, It needed a Email address, which I did not want to place on my internet email provider. So now I have to install a EMail server for pihole. (recusion sucks). > > Another area of interest for me might be the consequences of CGNET (if any) for a DYNDNS setup for a personal home page and similar things. There is a small possibility that I will have fiber available in the next couple of months and the provider apparently uses CGNET. > > On 7/9/25 5:28 PM, Frank Sweetser via WLUG wrote: > >> That would be a great talk! Pi holes are a perfect way for people to get started on Linux, so it's great to show off what they can do. >> >> - Frank >> >> On Wed, Jul 9, 2025, 5:18 PM Tracie Winslow via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >>> I have a pihole but I've been meaning to set one up on my Linux mini-pc instead. Want me to bring my Linux mini-pc and show how to set up a pihole and use it? >>> >>> "For a long time it seemed to me that life was about to begin - real life. But there was always some obstacle in the way, something to be gotten through first, some unfinished business, time still to be served, a debt to be paid. At last it dawned on me that these obstacles weremy life. This perspective has helped me to see there is no way to happiness. Happiness is the way. So treasure every moment you have and remember that time waits for no one."- Souza >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 6:01 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Sure!! >>>> >>>> Another topic that came up in a side channel is what is involved in setting up a pihole. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 2:05 PM Kevin Harrington via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would like to do a proper introduction to CaDoodle now that it's released as beta! >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 1:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Everybody! >>>>>> >>>>>> We've got a meeting this week! >>>>>> Date: July 10th, 2025 @ 7PM >>>>>> Location: Technocopia, [44 Portland St. Worcester MA](https://www.google.com/maps/search/44+Portland+St.+Worcester+MA?entry=g…. >>>>>> Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA >>>>>> >>>>>> Topic: I could talk about TrueNAS if people were interested in that, otherwise, this might be a bit of a freeform meeting. The other thing that I've been doing lately is turning Pi's into kiosk displays.. but that's going to take about 10 minutes to explain.. >>>>>> If someone has something they really want to talk about let me know! >>>>>> >>>>>> As usual we'll head off to dinner afterwards and keep talking. >>>>>> >>>>>> See you there! >>>>>> Tim. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>>>> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>>>> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/XQUZT… >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>>> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>>> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/JEFG4… >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/5WFZQ… >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/G4O4P… >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/CWXLK…

July 10, 2025

Re: Meeting THIS WEEK, July 10th, 2025! Topic: ?TrueNAS? Pi Kiosk displays?

by Kevin Stratton

I am interested in a pihole as well. I also just got an N150 mini pc for things like this. I am particulary interested in doing this with docker images. When I tried to install a docker recursive DNS server that I trust, It needed a Email address, which I did not want to place on my internet email provider. So now I have to install a EMail server for pihole. (recusion sucks). Another area of interest for me might be the consequences of CGNET (if any) for a DYNDNS setup for a personal home page and similar things. There is a small possibility that I will have fiber available in the next couple of months and the provider apparently uses CGNET. On 7/9/25 5:28 PM, Frank Sweetser via WLUG wrote: > That would be a great talk! Pi holes are a perfect way for people to > get started on Linux, so it's great to show off what they can do. > > - Frank > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2025, 5:18 PM Tracie Winslow via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > I have a pihole but I've been meaning to set one up on my Linux > mini-pc instead. Want me to bring my Linux mini-pc and show how to > set up a pihole and use it? > > *"For a long time it seemed to me that life was about to begin - > real life. But there was always some obstacle in the way, > something to be gotten through first, some unfinished business, > time still to be served, a debt to be paid. At last it dawned on > me that these obstacles _/were/_//my life. This perspective has > helped me to see there is no way to happiness. Happiness is the > way. So treasure every moment you have and remember that time > waits for no one." > *- Souza > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 6:01 PM Tim Keller via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > Sure!! > > Another topic that came up in a side channel is what is > involved in setting up a pihole. > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 2:05 PM Kevin Harrington via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > I would like to do a proper introduction to CaDoodle now > that it's released as beta! > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 1:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > Hey Everybody! > > We've got a meeting this week! > Date: July 10th, 2025 @ 7PM > Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/44+Portland+St.+Worcester+MA?entry=gmail…>. > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > > Topic: I could talk about TrueNAS if people were > interested in that, otherwise, this might be a bit of > a freeform meeting. The other thing that I've been > doing lately is turning Pi's into kiosk displays.. but > that's going to take about 10 minutes to explain.. > If someone has something they really want to talk > about let me know! > > As usual we'll head off to dinner afterwards and keep > talking. > > See you there! > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who > refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/XQUZT… > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/JEFG4… > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to > their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/5WFZQ… > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/G4O4P… > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list --wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email towlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account:https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings:https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive:https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org…

July 10, 2025

Re: Meeting THIS WEEK, July 10th, 2025! Topic: ?TrueNAS? Pi Kiosk displays?

by Frank Sweetser

That would be a great talk! Pi holes are a perfect way for people to get started on Linux, so it's great to show off what they can do. - Frank On Wed, Jul 9, 2025, 5:18 PM Tracie Winslow via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I have a pihole but I've been meaning to set one up on my Linux mini-pc > instead. Want me to bring my Linux mini-pc and show how to set up a pihole > and use it? > > > *"For a long time it seemed to me that life was about to begin - real > life. But there was always some obstacle in the way, something to be gotten > through first, some unfinished business, time still to be served, a debt to > be paid. At last it dawned on me that these obstacles were my life. This > perspective has helped me to see there is no way to happiness. Happiness is > the way. So treasure every moment you have and remember that time waits for > no one."*- Souza > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 6:01 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> Sure!! >> >> Another topic that came up in a side channel is what is involved in >> setting up a pihole. >> >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 2:05 PM Kevin Harrington via WLUG < >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >>> I would like to do a proper introduction to CaDoodle now that it's >>> released as beta! >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 1:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Everybody! >>>> >>>> We've got a meeting this week! >>>> Date: July 10th, 2025 @ 7PM >>>> Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/44+Portland+St.+Worcester+MA?entry=gmail…> >>>> . >>>> Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA >>>> >>>> Topic: I could talk about TrueNAS if people were interested in that, >>>> otherwise, this might be a bit of a freeform meeting. The other thing that >>>> I've been doing lately is turning Pi's into kiosk displays.. but that's >>>> going to take about 10 minutes to explain.. >>>> If someone has something they really want to talk about let me know! >>>> >>>> As usual we'll head off to dinner afterwards and keep talking. >>>> >>>> See you there! >>>> Tim. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>>> constituents as "consumers". >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>> Change Settings: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/XQUZT… >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/JEFG4… >>> >> >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/5WFZQ… >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/G4O4P… >

July 9, 2025

Re: Meeting THIS WEEK, July 10th, 2025! Topic: ?TrueNAS? Pi Kiosk displays?

by Tracie Winslow

I have a pihole but I've been meaning to set one up on my Linux mini-pc instead. Want me to bring my Linux mini-pc and show how to set up a pihole and use it? *"For a long time it seemed to me that life was about to begin - real life. But there was always some obstacle in the way, something to be gotten through first, some unfinished business, time still to be served, a debt to be paid. At last it dawned on me that these obstacles were my life. This perspective has helped me to see there is no way to happiness. Happiness is the way. So treasure every moment you have and remember that time waits for no one."*- Souza On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 6:01 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Sure!! > > Another topic that came up in a side channel is what is involved in > setting up a pihole. > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 2:05 PM Kevin Harrington via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >> I would like to do a proper introduction to CaDoodle now that it's >> released as beta! >> >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 1:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey Everybody! >>> >>> We've got a meeting this week! >>> Date: July 10th, 2025 @ 7PM >>> Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/44+Portland+St.+Worcester+MA?entry=gmail…> >>> . >>> Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA >>> >>> Topic: I could talk about TrueNAS if people were interested in that, >>> otherwise, this might be a bit of a freeform meeting. The other thing that >>> I've been doing lately is turning Pi's into kiosk displays.. but that's >>> going to take about 10 minutes to explain.. >>> If someone has something they really want to talk about let me know! >>> >>> As usual we'll head off to dinner afterwards and keep talking. >>> >>> See you there! >>> Tim. >>> >>> -- >>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>> constituents as "consumers". >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/XQUZT… >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/JEFG4… >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/5WFZQ… >

July 9, 2025

Re: Meeting THIS WEEK, July 10th, 2025! Topic: ?TrueNAS? Pi Kiosk displays?

by Tim Keller

Sure!! Another topic that came up in a side channel is what is involved in setting up a pihole. On Tue, Jul 8, 2025 at 2:05 PM Kevin Harrington via WLUG < wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I would like to do a proper introduction to CaDoodle now that it's > released as beta! > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 1:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> Hey Everybody! >> >> We've got a meeting this week! >> Date: July 10th, 2025 @ 7PM >> Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/44+Portland+St.+Worcester+MA?entry=gmail…> >> . >> Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA >> >> Topic: I could talk about TrueNAS if people were interested in that, >> otherwise, this might be a bit of a freeform meeting. The other thing that >> I've been doing lately is turning Pi's into kiosk displays.. but that's >> going to take about 10 minutes to explain.. >> If someone has something they really want to talk about let me know! >> >> As usual we'll head off to dinner afterwards and keep talking. >> >> See you there! >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/XQUZT… >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/JEFG4… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 8, 2025

Re: Meeting THIS WEEK, July 10th, 2025! Topic: ?TrueNAS? Pi Kiosk displays?

by Kevin Harrington

I would like to do a proper introduction to CaDoodle now that it's released as beta! On Tue, Jul 8, 2025, 1:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hey Everybody! > > We've got a meeting this week! > Date: July 10th, 2025 @ 7PM > Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA > <https://www.google.com/maps/search/44+Portland+St.+Worcester+MA?entry=gmail…> > . > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > > Topic: I could talk about TrueNAS if people were interested in that, > otherwise, this might be a bit of a freeform meeting. The other thing that > I've been doing lately is turning Pi's into kiosk displays.. but that's > going to take about 10 minutes to explain.. > If someone has something they really want to talk about let me know! > > As usual we'll head off to dinner afterwards and keep talking. > > See you there! > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/XQUZT… >

July 8, 2025

Meeting THIS WEEK, July 10th, 2025! Topic: ?TrueNAS? Pi Kiosk displays?

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! We've got a meeting this week! Date: July 10th, 2025 @ 7PM Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland St. Worcester MA. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: I could talk about TrueNAS if people were interested in that, otherwise, this might be a bit of a freeform meeting. The other thing that I've been doing lately is turning Pi's into kiosk displays.. but that's going to take about 10 minutes to explain.. If someone has something they really want to talk about let me know! As usual we'll head off to dinner afterwards and keep talking. See you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

July 8, 2025

Re: Reminder!!! *NO* Meeting tomorrow

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Wright <kwright(a)keithdiane.us> writes: > John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > At a previous meeting you showed a black box about the size of a thick > book and called it a "desktop computer". I thought a desktop computer > was one too big to be a "laptop", but your black box is smaller than > my laptop. > I forgot the name of that black box. What is it? It's a beelink Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 5825U system. Here's a link to the Amazon site I got it from. It looks like it's $298 right now, and it comes with 32gb of RAM (expandable to 64gb) and a 500mb NVME disk. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C2P486GQ?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title > I suppose it is a "desktop" because it needs a separate screen and > keyboard, but what connectors are there? Yes, it's a desktop. But I think you can even mount it on the back of some monitors if they support the VESA mounting standard. It's damn small. > I have several big flat screens that are attached to former > computers by odd plugs, and PS/2 keyboards, RJ-45 ethernet plugs. So this unit has Display Port, HDMI and I think it will also do display over USB-C port at 10gb/s. It's pretty damn impressive for the cost. > I got the ethernet working with Spectrum internet, but am > running out of working computers that plug into it. This is a cheap way to get a nice fast, quiet, low power unit. It won't do for long sustained tasks, but for browsing, editing, compiling, etc it 's great. Also comes with ethernet.

July 8, 2025

Re: Reminder!!! *NO* Meeting tomorrow

by Keith Wright

John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Keith, > I hope you're staying cool! >> I feel lumpy; like a cucumber. Lumpy and cool as a cucumber. At a previous meeting you showed a black box about the size of a thick book and called it a "desktop computer". I thought a desktop computer was one too big to be a "laptop", but your black box is smaller than my laptop. I forgot the name of that black box. What is it? I suppose it is a "desktop" because it needs a separate screen and keyboard, but what connectors are there? I have several big flat screens that are attached to former computers by odd plugs, and PS/2 keyboards, RJ-45 ethernet plugs. I got the ethernet working with Spectrum internet, but am running out of working computers that plug into it. -- Keith

July 7, 2025

Sox question

by gmcaplan＠gmcaplan.org

Hi Folks, I have tried to get an answer to this question thru Stackexachange, but they give me bureaucratic reasons why this question does not qualify for an answer. Maybe one of you can give me some guidance. Here is the question: I am running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. I use this command line to record from either Line In or microphone: sox -t alsa default \Desktop/FTC/RecdMsg$(date +"%Yx%mx%dx%Ix%Mx%Sx%p")x1.mp3 A cable is always plugged into Line In. If I plug a microphone into the Front Microphone connector, this command line records from the mic. If I physically unplug the mic, I can record from Line In. I hope someone can help me: a. Create a similar command that always records from Line In b. Create a similar command that always records from Front Microphone c. Create a command that asks me which input I want to use Thank you. George Caplan email: gmcaplan(a)gmcaplan.org

July 2, 2025

Re: Reminder!!! *NO* Meeting tomorrow

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: Keith, I hope you're staying cool! > John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> What a great meeting last week! A big shout out to Xavier for doing >> his presentation on NixOS! Hopefully Tim will be able to share the >> links to the slides and other info. > Yes, thank you. I would like to review the slides. >> We talked about: >> >> NixOS >> >> - A tool and environment for building systems in a deterministic >> manner. Sorta like Ansible, or Puppet, or Chef, or Salt or >> cfengine (old school!) or Terraform. > I don't know what any of those are. I was comparing it to apt-get, rpm, > yumm and, of course guix. I think I heard Xavier say something about > teamwork between Nix and guix, which would be good because I don't think > we need $2^n$ incompatible package managers. So think of those tools listed above as the next step up in abstraction to managing groups of packages and entire system level configuration. So I use Ansible and I tell it to install a bunch of packages, and then ansible uses apt or dpkg to do the actual install. Ansible (or terraform, salt, chef, puppet, etc) are all tools for bringing systems into alignment with your specifications. They add/remove packages, make updates to configurations, etc. NixOS is more like apt and rpm, with the idea that (as I understand it) you have a much more reproducable set of packages that are cryptographically proveable to be the same. Not so much from a signed with a key, but more in the form of hashes that track state all the way back to the source package. > I looked up NixOS, expecting to see a lot of cartoons. Where did those > cartoons come from and are they "official"? I don't know. Maybe Xavier or somethinh with the slides can chime in here? >> And what are the feelings of those who are remote? > I feel lumpy; like a cucumber. LOL! >> Were you able to follow along and enjoy the talk? > The first half-hour or so was near intolerable, but then the noise > stopped and the camera stopped bouncing and all was good. Yeah, the noise in the usual conference room was crazy. And I just found another tool which I think Xavier was using in his shell. Take a look at 'starship': https://starship.rs/ which I find funky because it requires you to have Nerdfonts (https://www.nerdfonts.com/) installed. Which honestly seems like a step backwards, just like Emojis are a step backward. Yes, it's fun to have and know the meaning (or supposed meaning!) of a special graphical image, but it really feels like we're going back to Egyptian Heiroglyphics. Which means you have to memorize hundreds or thousands of individual characters to make words. And then you still have to join them together into bigger chunks. The power of the Roman (or other smaller alphabets) to me is that you have a smaller number of pictographs or letters to know, which you can string together into larger concepts more easily. This is ignoring language and pronounciation issues of course. Ah well, enough ranting, it's gonna be another scorcher today, so stay cool everybody! John

June 25, 2025

Re: Reminder!!! *NO* Meeting tomorrow

by Keith Wright

John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > What a great meeting last week! A big shout out to Xavier for doing > his presentation on NixOS! Hopefully Tim will be able to share the > links to the slides and other info. Yes, thank you. I would like to review the slides. > We talked about: > > NixOS > > - A tool and environment for building systems in a deterministic > manner. Sorta like Ansible, or Puppet, or Chef, or Salt or > cfengine (old school!) or Terraform. I don't know what any of those are. I was comparing it to apt-get, rpm, yumm and, of course guix. I think I heard Xavier say something about teamwork between Nix and guix, which would be good because I don't think we need $2^n$ incompatible package managers. I looked up NixOS, expecting to see a lot of cartoons. Where did those cartoons come from and are they "official"? > And what are the feelings of those who are remote? I feel lumpy; like a cucumber. > Were you able to follow along and enjoy the talk? The first half-hour or so was near intolerable, but then the noise stopped and the camera stopped bouncing and all was good. -- Keith

June 20, 2025

Re: Reminder!!! Meeting tomorrow night! Topic: Nix

by John Stoffel

Hey guys, What a great meeting last week! A big shout out to Xavier for doing his presentation on NixOS! Hopefully Tim will be able to share the links to the slides and other info. We talked about: NixOS - A tool and environment for building systems in a deterministic manner. Sorta like Ansible, or Puppet, or Chef, or Salt or cfengine (old school!) or Terraform. But with it's own twist on how it keeps a hash pointing at the version you have, so you can mix-n-match tools versions easily. nushell (https://www.nushell.sh/) - a new shell for Linux and MacOS which includes some PowerShell like features. It looks interesting for sure. But maybe this old dog is too stuck in his ways to change direnv (https://direnv.net/) - A way to have your shell environment updated when you 'cd' into a directory, so that you don't have to remember what environment settings your need when you're moving around and doing work. I wish I had this for my engineers back when I was supporting an ASIC design team, they would have loved this. So who's going to present next month? And what are the feelings of those who are remote? Were you able to follow along and enjoy the talk? Doing both in-person and streamed stuff is tough at times, and I feel like we're not paying enough attention to those who try to comment from remote connections. Cheers, John

June 17, 2025

Re: Reminder!!! Meeting tomorrow night! Topic: Nix

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: See you all there! > Just a reminder that we've got a meeting tomorrow night! > Date: June 12th, 2025 > Time: 7pm > Location: Technocopia, 44 Portland st. Worcester MA > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > Topic: Nix Package Manager > Presenter: Xavier Ruis > Fellow WLUG member Evan White has asked his friend Xavier to speak at WLUG and he's graciously > agreed. > Xavier Ruis is one of the organizers of the Boston Typescript club and will be giving a talk about > the Nix Package manager! https://nixos.org/ > Nix is a packaging system that allows for the creation of "declarative builds and deployments" It > works on all the distros as well as the NixOS linux distribution. > Afterwards we'll head off to dinner to continue the conversation! > I hope to see you there! > Tim. > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/44PZQ…

June 12, 2025