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Re: [Wlug] Question

by Wesley Allen

Do a home network and hack it together. The sugguestion about getting involved in help-desk work is really good too because all of the sudden you HAVE to learn all this stuff so you can help people (though you may go insane doing it, "I've got 600 messages in my "saved" box on the mail server, should I have backed these up on my local machine?"). If you've got a friend who is a system admin start talking to them as you hack your network, this will have to be a good friend who will not mind giving you advice for free that he charges other people for; but friends can put into English what man pages can only put into "networkspeak", without friends, I'd never even tried to learn linux and would still be a slave of Microsoft. Wes ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:57:27 -0400 >On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 02:25:15PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: >> I've seen good comments made about: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471345865/qid=997293880/sr=1-24/ref… > >Also ISBN 0-201-43319-2 > >-- >Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 15 >Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | >P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the >world like English did. Er, *as* English did... > -- Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393(a)wall.org> >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Question

by Frank Sweetser

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 02:25:15PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > I've seen good comments made about: > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471345865/qid=997293880/sr=1-24/ref… Also ISBN 0-201-43319-2 -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 15 Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the world like English did. Er, *as* English did... -- Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393(a)wall.org>

Aug. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Question

by Theo Van Dinter

On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 01:40:14PM -0400, Gary J. Hanley wrote: > Well, I'm not a Network Admin, but I would suggest the cheapest way to > start is to build a home network with a hub and at least cheap 3 PCs doing > different functions to serve the network (DNS, Sendmail, etc.) I guess it depends on your definition of "Network Admin." If you want to learn network-related services (DHCP, DNS, NIS, Sendmail, etc,) that's more of a System Administrator role. Network Admininistrator implies the focus is on the network (TCP/IP, routing, VLANs, Spanning Tree, etc.) Some folks (myself included) do pieces of both. If you want to be a network-centric admin, I would probably start looking at networking textbooks and possibly work towards becoming a CCNA (Cisco Certified Network Admin.) I've seen good comments made about: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471345865/qid=997293880/sr=1-24/ref… Other than that, you'll probably want to get your hands wet. Find a job as a junior/novice somewhere and learn from folks. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Ensign Rosebud? "He's SLED, Jim!"

Aug. 8, 2001

RE: [Wlug] Question

by Simoncini, Matthew

I have been working as a Unix Sys Admin for Accenture (formerly Andersen Consulting) for the last few months, although I have been with the company for 3 years. I agree with what Gary said and additionally would add getting your foot in the door working at a helpdesk somewhere. I know from experience that most tech companies will look within before hiring from the outside to fill positions. Willingness to learn, adapt to change, and good teamwork skills are also highly desired when companies look to hire. Good luck. Matthew -----Original Message----- From: Gary J. Hanley [mailto:ghanley@world.std.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:40 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Question Well, I'm not a Network Admin, but I would suggest the cheapest way to start is to build a home network with a hub and at least cheap 3 PCs doing different functions to serve the network (DNS, Sendmail, etc.) Get some networking books and tweak, tweak, tweak! After that you can either build up your network with more hardware or take mid-to-senior level classes. Either way it will start to cost you more money as you progress. :-| -- Gary On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Pierce C. Barnard wrote: > Hi, I am interested in becoming a network administrator. Can anyone give > me some information on becoming an admin? _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Question

by Gary J. Hanley

Well, I'm not a Network Admin, but I would suggest the cheapest way to start is to build a home network with a hub and at least cheap 3 PCs doing different functions to serve the network (DNS, Sendmail, etc.) Get some networking books and tweak, tweak, tweak! After that you can either build up your network with more hardware or take mid-to-senior level classes. Either way it will start to cost you more money as you progress. :-| -- Gary On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Pierce C. Barnard wrote: > Hi, I am interested in becoming a network administrator. Can anyone give > me some information on becoming an admin?

Aug. 8, 2001

Question

by Pierce C. Barnard

Hi, I am interested in becoming a network administrator. Can anyone give me some information on becoming an admin?

Aug. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] System crash

by Aaron Haviland

Long, Mike said: > > I am running SuSE 7.0 with the 2.2.18? kernel. I have not compiled my > own kernel before. Last night when attempting to upgrade to XFree86 > 4.1 I somehow f**ked up my configuration and can now only run X as > root and I don't know what changed to cause that to happen. I had > backed up my entire partition so the original configuration files are > around but I am not sure which files I should restore to get back to > my original configuration. Only as root? Try looking at /etc/X11/Xserver and see what the second line reads. The first line in this file is the full pathname of the default X server. The second line shows who is allowed to run the X server: RootOnly Console (anyone whose controlling tty is on the console) Anybody (assuming this is the same in 4.1 as it is in 4.0.x, and the filename is the same in Suse as in other distros...) -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net Release the Mongoose!

Aug. 7, 2001

RE: [Wlug] System crash

by Long, Mike

I am running SuSE 7.0 with the 2.2.18? kernel. I have not compiled my own kernel before. Last night when attempting to upgrade to XFree86 4.1 I somehow f**ked up my configuration and can now only run X as root and I don't know what changed to cause that to happen. I had backed up my entire partition so the original configuration files are around but I am not sure which files I should restore to get back to my original configuration. I am contemplating upgrading to SuSE 7.2 with the 2.4.x kernel and reformatting my partition to be a Rieserfs file system. Is this configuration likely to be any more stable than my current configuration? -----Original Message----- From: Ben Dow [mailto:bdow@WPI.EDU] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 10:43 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] System crash Well, XFree86 4.1 is out, which is what I was referring to, but as far as I know, that's a really well-supported video card (the chipset's been around forever)... what kernel are you running? Is it a stock Suse kernel? Do you know how to compile your own, if it might help? On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Michael Long wrote: > I saw on the suse website where there is an updated version of XFree86 > (4.0.2) as well as an updated xloader and xmodules packages. I will be > installing these and see if this solves the problem. > > As for my system components: > ABIT KT7-RAID Motherboard w/ an Athlon 800 > ATI Rage 128 video card > SoundBlaster Live > 2 Realtek RTL8139B ethernet cards > 2 DiamondMax Hard drives > Toshiba CD-RW/DVD-ROM #SD-R1002 > > The output from lspci is: > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0305 (rev 02) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 8305 > 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super] (rev 22) > 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] (rev 10) > 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev > 30) > 00:09.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics Venus Modem (V90, > 56KFlex) > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0f.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10000 (rev 08) > 00:0f.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 08) > 00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 > (rev 03) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF > > > On Monday 06 August 2001 11:34, you wrote: > > I've seen this kind of thing happen for 2 reasons I've been able to figure > > out on my systems... after running XFree86 4 for a few minutes with my > > Diamond (since taken over by S3, now SonicBlue... it's so hard to keep > > track) Stealth III S540 (based on the Savage 4 or 4+, I think), the system > > will lock up hard... 3.3.6 was no problem, and I haven't tried the latest > > version of X, which is now supposed to have special drivers for that > > chipset, and it tends to happen much more often than once every few days, > > but since I know nothing about your system, I thought I'd mention it... > > The other thing that seems to cause it is a lot of hard disk activity on > > an Intel PIIX3 controller (for an old Pentium/166). Copying large files > > to/from a Reiserfs partition with DMA enabled seems to really do the trick > > (I should probably send in a kernel bug report, really)... but that's > > another possibility, I guess. Again, tell us some more about your system > > (lspci often gives useful information). > > Now to wake up. > > > > Ben > > > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Long, Mike wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have been having problems with my system locking to the point where I > > > needed to press the reset button to recycle the box. Well, this happened > > > again and this time things are not working properly after bringing the > > > system back up. I have been able to start networking services and I can > > > start KDE desktop but none of my X applications will run. Now I have > > > several questions: > > > > > > 1) What type of problems could have been created by an improper shutdown > > > of the box? > > > 2) Will reinstalling KDE fix this problem? > > > 3) How do I go about figuring out what is causing my machine to lock up? > > > It is happening frequently (every few days) > > > and when I am doing different things. I have not been able to > > > determine a pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 7, 2001

Secure Modems (A little off topic)

by cc.noyes

Does anyone know of a secure modem(s) that does MD4, MD5 or SHA1 authentication? They would be running with UnixWare and Solaris platforms. I would guess that they're probably O/S independent. Thanks, Chuck

Aug. 7, 2001

Re: [Wlug] System crash

by Ben Dow

Well, XFree86 4.1 is out, which is what I was referring to, but as far as I know, that's a really well-supported video card (the chipset's been around forever)... what kernel are you running? Is it a stock Suse kernel? Do you know how to compile your own, if it might help? On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Michael Long wrote: > I saw on the suse website where there is an updated version of XFree86 > (4.0.2) as well as an updated xloader and xmodules packages. I will be > installing these and see if this solves the problem. > > As for my system components: > ABIT KT7-RAID Motherboard w/ an Athlon 800 > ATI Rage 128 video card > SoundBlaster Live > 2 Realtek RTL8139B ethernet cards > 2 DiamondMax Hard drives > Toshiba CD-RW/DVD-ROM #SD-R1002 > > The output from lspci is: > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0305 (rev 02) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 8305 > 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super] (rev 22) > 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] (rev 10) > 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) > 00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev > 30) > 00:09.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics Venus Modem (V90, > 56KFlex) > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) > 00:0f.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10000 (rev 08) > 00:0f.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 08) > 00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 > (rev 03) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF > > > On Monday 06 August 2001 11:34, you wrote: > > I've seen this kind of thing happen for 2 reasons I've been able to figure > > out on my systems... after running XFree86 4 for a few minutes with my > > Diamond (since taken over by S3, now SonicBlue... it's so hard to keep > > track) Stealth III S540 (based on the Savage 4 or 4+, I think), the system > > will lock up hard... 3.3.6 was no problem, and I haven't tried the latest > > version of X, which is now supposed to have special drivers for that > > chipset, and it tends to happen much more often than once every few days, > > but since I know nothing about your system, I thought I'd mention it... > > The other thing that seems to cause it is a lot of hard disk activity on > > an Intel PIIX3 controller (for an old Pentium/166). Copying large files > > to/from a Reiserfs partition with DMA enabled seems to really do the trick > > (I should probably send in a kernel bug report, really)... but that's > > another possibility, I guess. Again, tell us some more about your system > > (lspci often gives useful information). > > Now to wake up. > > > > Ben > > > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Long, Mike wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have been having problems with my system locking to the point where I > > > needed to press the reset button to recycle the box. Well, this happened > > > again and this time things are not working properly after bringing the > > > system back up. I have been able to start networking services and I can > > > start KDE desktop but none of my X applications will run. Now I have > > > several questions: > > > > > > 1) What type of problems could have been created by an improper shutdown > > > of the box? > > > 2) Will reinstalling KDE fix this problem? > > > 3) How do I go about figuring out what is causing my machine to lock up? > > > It is happening frequently (every few days) > > > and when I am doing different things. I have not been able to > > > determine a pattern. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 7, 2001

Re: [Wlug] System crash

by Michael Long

I saw on the suse website where there is an updated version of XFree86 (4.0.2) as well as an updated xloader and xmodules packages. I will be installing these and see if this solves the problem. As for my system components: ABIT KT7-RAID Motherboard w/ an Athlon 800 ATI Rage 128 video card SoundBlaster Live 2 Realtek RTL8139B ethernet cards 2 DiamondMax Hard drives Toshiba CD-RW/DVD-ROM #SD-R1002 The output from lspci is: 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0305 (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 8305 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super] (rev 22) 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] (rev 10) 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) 00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 10) 00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 30) 00:09.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics Venus Modem (V90, 56KFlex) 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) 00:0f.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10000 (rev 08) 00:0f.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! (rev 08) 00:13.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366 (rev 03) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF On Monday 06 August 2001 11:34, you wrote: > I've seen this kind of thing happen for 2 reasons I've been able to figure > out on my systems... after running XFree86 4 for a few minutes with my > Diamond (since taken over by S3, now SonicBlue... it's so hard to keep > track) Stealth III S540 (based on the Savage 4 or 4+, I think), the system > will lock up hard... 3.3.6 was no problem, and I haven't tried the latest > version of X, which is now supposed to have special drivers for that > chipset, and it tends to happen much more often than once every few days, > but since I know nothing about your system, I thought I'd mention it... > The other thing that seems to cause it is a lot of hard disk activity on > an Intel PIIX3 controller (for an old Pentium/166). Copying large files > to/from a Reiserfs partition with DMA enabled seems to really do the trick > (I should probably send in a kernel bug report, really)... but that's > another possibility, I guess. Again, tell us some more about your system > (lspci often gives useful information). > Now to wake up. > > Ben > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Long, Mike wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have been having problems with my system locking to the point where I > > needed to press the reset button to recycle the box. Well, this happened > > again and this time things are not working properly after bringing the > > system back up. I have been able to start networking services and I can > > start KDE desktop but none of my X applications will run. Now I have > > several questions: > > > > 1) What type of problems could have been created by an improper shutdown > > of the box? > > 2) Will reinstalling KDE fix this problem? > > 3) How do I go about figuring out what is causing my machine to lock up? > > It is happening frequently (every few days) > > and when I am doing different things. I have not been able to > > determine a pattern. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 7, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Possible topic for the next meeting?

by William Smith

On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Brian J. Conway wrote: BJC>.... Is anyone interested on seeing a BJC>presentation on the various DVD players that are available for Linux BJC>along with their setup. hardware support, and configuration, etc? i'm interested! :) i recently got a Delta DVDROM drive ($34 from a Pricewatch.com listing, includes WinDOZE software)... i know that my RH7.1 system sees it (the DVD drive shows up in the hardware list), but i haven't had time yet to toy with the DVD software in Linux yet... Bill Smith Fall River, MA

Aug. 6, 2001

Re: [Wlug] System crash

by Ben Dow

I've seen this kind of thing happen for 2 reasons I've been able to figure out on my systems... after running XFree86 4 for a few minutes with my Diamond (since taken over by S3, now SonicBlue... it's so hard to keep track) Stealth III S540 (based on the Savage 4 or 4+, I think), the system will lock up hard... 3.3.6 was no problem, and I haven't tried the latest version of X, which is now supposed to have special drivers for that chipset, and it tends to happen much more often than once every few days, but since I know nothing about your system, I thought I'd mention it... The other thing that seems to cause it is a lot of hard disk activity on an Intel PIIX3 controller (for an old Pentium/166). Copying large files to/from a Reiserfs partition with DMA enabled seems to really do the trick (I should probably send in a kernel bug report, really)... but that's another possibility, I guess. Again, tell us some more about your system (lspci often gives useful information). Now to wake up. Ben On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Long, Mike wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been having problems with my system locking to the point where I > needed to press the reset button to recycle the box. Well, this happened > again and this time things are not working properly after bringing the > system back up. I have been able to start networking services and I can > start KDE desktop but none of my X applications will run. Now I have several > questions: > > 1) What type of problems could have been created by an improper shutdown of > the box? > 2) Will reinstalling KDE fix this problem? > 3) How do I go about figuring out what is causing my machine to lock up? It > is happening frequently (every few days) > and when I am doing different things. I have not been able to determine a > pattern. > > > > Thanks, > Mike >

Aug. 6, 2001

System crash

by Long, Mike

Hi all, I have been having problems with my system locking to the point where I needed to press the reset button to recycle the box. Well, this happened again and this time things are not working properly after bringing the system back up. I have been able to start networking services and I can start KDE desktop but none of my X applications will run. Now I have several questions: 1) What type of problems could have been created by an improper shutdown of the box? 2) Will reinstalling KDE fix this problem? 3) How do I go about figuring out what is causing my machine to lock up? It is happening frequently (every few days) and when I am doing different things. I have not been able to determine a pattern. Thanks, Mike

Aug. 6, 2001

bizzare font behavior

by brad

Hey all, Each time i boot my machine it seems to toggle between two interpretations of 12pt fonts. There seems to be a random patten for my computer interpreting fonts. One time it will be really, small, the next boot, it will have big fonts. The font configuration is the same (mostly size 10pt font in KDE2). But each time the computer boots, i have no idea if I'm going to be able to read the fonts on my screen, or if it's going to be too big. It's on a RH7.1 i installed few weeks ago. I have KDE2 running, and i have the graphical login window when i boot. Any ideas? Thanks, --Brad

Aug. 4, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Possible topic for the next meeting?

by Brian J. Conway

> There is currently no scheduled speaker or topic for the August WLUG > meeting. If you would like to do this talk, I think it would be great. > I'm curious as to what you would like to cover, or what others might like > to see covered. That sounds good, I'll plan on it then. Any suggestions should get to me by this Sunday and I'll try my best to include them. > 1) Supported DVD players Check. > 2) What software, kernel, apps, etc needed to use DVD Check. > 3) DVD-ROM - just like a CDROM, but bigger - anything special or funny > here? Check. > 4) DVD-RAM - now there's an idea Never touched them, but I'll do some research on the basics. > 5) Video DVD - can I watch The Matrix while coding? :-) Check. (Definitely, this is intended to be the bulk of the presentation, comparing a few players and their features, etc.) > These are just thoughts and suggestions....are there others? I'd love to hear them. Thanks all. -b

Aug. 4, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Possible topic for the next meeting?

by Andy Stewart

HI all, There is currently no scheduled speaker or topic for the August WLUG meeting. If you would like to do this talk, I think it would be great. I'm curious as to what you would like to cover, or what others might like to see covered. Let me seed the conversation bu suggesting the following possibilities: 1) Supported DVD players 2) What software, kernel, apps, etc needed to use DVD 3) DVD-ROM - just like a CDROM, but bigger - anything special or funny here? 4) DVD-RAM - now there's an idea 5) Video DVD - can I watch The Matrix while coding? :-) These are just thoughts and suggestions....are there others? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Aug. 4, 2001

Possible topic for the next meeting?

by Brian J. Conway

Greetings, I don't know whether there is a topic for the next meeting and it just hasn't made it onto the web page or not, but I figured I'd offer a suggestion to the group. Is anyone interested on seeing a presentation on the various DVD players that are available for Linux along with their setup. hardware support, and configuration, etc? I'm headed to the west coast next week for a 7-day Alaskan cruise, and I really need something to do for the 6-hour plane ride each way other than watching Top Gun. I'd be happy to do so, but I figured I'd ask the group instead of just mailing Andy as "installing and running a couple of apps in Linux" might be on the light side for a presentation. If people are interested and there's already something for this month, just let me know and I'll write something up. Just my two cents, let me know if there's any interest (this hasn't already been done, right?). Brian J. Conway dogbert(a)clue4all.net Geek for hire: http://clue4all.net/resume Power Mac G4 Cube. Some of us are getting laid tonight. (http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20010509)

Aug. 3, 2001

Re: [Wlug] type1 fonts...

by Skip Gaede

On Friday 03 August 2001 09:22, Wes wrote: > Skip, > I was already doing what you said, but my fonts.dir file is > consistently coming up with "0" as the number of fonts in the > directory. Any ideas as to why? Hi Wes, It sounds like it may be time for a few more folks to jump in. Can you tell us a little more about your system? What distro are you running? What version of the kernel and X? If you run xfontsel, can you see your font families in the family pulldown? It may be perfectly normal for your fonts.dir file to contain a 0. Mine does! However, this was the command used to generate it: /usr/X11R6/bin/mkfontdir -e /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings \ -e /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/large . &>/dev/null I think the real information about the fonts are stored in the encodings directory. Sorry for the unneeded info earlier, Skip

Aug. 3, 2001

Re: [Wlug] type1 fonts...

by Aaron Haviland

Wesley Allen said: > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: > Skip Gaede <sgaede(a)mediaone.net> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: > Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:17:20 -0400 > > >On Friday 03 August 2001 08:05, Skip wrote: > >> On Thursday 02 August 2001 17:18, Wesley Allen wrote: > >> > Hello all, I've got some nice type 1 fonts that I want to insert > >> > for use in X and in ghostscript. Can anyone run though the right > >> > command sequences to do this? > >> > >> Sure, Wes. It really isn't difficult, and you'll be pleased to know > >> there are many ways you can do it. Have you found the web site > >> http://www.linuxdoc.org yet? At linuxdoc there is an excellent set > >> of documentation that's well written and easy to understand. They > >> have a search engine, and entering Type 1 fonts should lead you to > >> a HOWTO on how to do it. > >> > >> Have said that, two things need to happen: > >> > >> 1) X has to know where to find the fonts 2) The directory needs to > >> have a special file called fonts.dir > >> > >> rm -f fonts.dir && ttmkfontdir . > > > >Before someone else jumps on this, the above line should have read > > > >(in the directory where your fonts are located, type) > > > >rm -f fonts.dir && mkfontdir . > > > >(The other command was for TrueType fonts!) > > > >--Skip > > Skip, > I was already doing what you said, but my fonts.dir file is > consistently coming up with "0" as the number of fonts in the > directory. Any ideas as to why? Wes AFAIK, with Type1 fonts, you need to have an entry for them in the matching fonts.scale for them to appear in fonts.dir from mkfontdir (this may or may not be debian-specific). From mkfontdir (1x): SCALABLE FONTS (this may or may not be debian-specific). From mkfontdir (1x): name, the file "fonts.scale" can be used to name the scalable fonts in the directory. The fonts listed in it are copied to fonts.dir by mkfont dir. "fonts.scale" has the same format as the "fonts.dir" file. g'luck -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net http://www.aaron.haviland.net ICQ: 43079202

Aug. 3, 2001

Re: [Wlug] type1 fonts...

by Wesley Allen

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Skip Gaede <sgaede(a)mediaone.net> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:17:20 -0400 >On Friday 03 August 2001 08:05, Skip wrote: >> On Thursday 02 August 2001 17:18, Wesley Allen wrote: >> > Hello all, >> > I've got some nice type 1 fonts that I want to insert for use in X >> > and in ghostscript. Can anyone run though the right command sequences to >> > do this? >> >> Sure, Wes. It really isn't difficult, and you'll be pleased to know there >> are many ways you can do it. Have you found the web site >> http://www.linuxdoc.org yet? At linuxdoc there is an excellent set of >> documentation that's well written and easy to understand. They have a >> search engine, and entering Type 1 fonts should lead you to a HOWTO on how >> to do it. >> >> Have said that, two things need to happen: >> >> 1) X has to know where to find the fonts >> 2) The directory needs to have a special file called fonts.dir >> >> rm -f fonts.dir && ttmkfontdir . > >Before someone else jumps on this, the above line should have read > >(in the directory where your fonts are located, type) > >rm -f fonts.dir && mkfontdir . > >(The other command was for TrueType fonts!) > >--Skip >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Skip, I was already doing what you said, but my fonts.dir file is consistently coming up with "0" as the number of fonts in the directory. Any ideas as to why? Wes

Aug. 3, 2001

Re: [Wlug] type1 fonts...

by Skip Gaede

On Friday 03 August 2001 08:05, Skip wrote: > On Thursday 02 August 2001 17:18, Wesley Allen wrote: > > Hello all, > > I've got some nice type 1 fonts that I want to insert for use in X > > and in ghostscript. Can anyone run though the right command sequences to > > do this? > > Sure, Wes. It really isn't difficult, and you'll be pleased to know there > are many ways you can do it. Have you found the web site > http://www.linuxdoc.org yet? At linuxdoc there is an excellent set of > documentation that's well written and easy to understand. They have a > search engine, and entering Type 1 fonts should lead you to a HOWTO on how > to do it. > > Have said that, two things need to happen: > > 1) X has to know where to find the fonts > 2) The directory needs to have a special file called fonts.dir > > rm -f fonts.dir && ttmkfontdir . Before someone else jumps on this, the above line should have read (in the directory where your fonts are located, type) rm -f fonts.dir && mkfontdir . (The other command was for TrueType fonts!) --Skip

Aug. 3, 2001

Re: [Wlug] type1 fonts...

by Skip Gaede

On Thursday 02 August 2001 17:18, Wesley Allen wrote: > Hello all, > I've got some nice type 1 fonts that I want to insert for use in X and > in ghostscript. Can anyone run though the right command sequences to do > this? > Sure, Wes. It really isn't difficult, and you'll be pleased to know there are many ways you can do it. Have you found the web site http://www.linuxdoc.org yet? At linuxdoc there is an excellent set of documentation that's well written and easy to understand. They have a search engine, and entering Type 1 fonts should lead you to a HOWTO on how to do it. Have said that, two things need to happen: 1) X has to know where to find the fonts 2) The directory needs to have a special file called fonts.dir X knows where to look for fonts based on data in its configuration file, /etc/X11/XF86Config In there, look for one or more lines starting with FontPath You can just add a line, FontPath "path to your Type1 fonts directory" OR you can copy your fonts (both the .afm and .pfb files) to where the rest of the Type 1 fonts are, and dispense with editing XF86Config. By default, the Type 1 fonts are in a subdirectory of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts OR if you are using a font server, you can edit another file instead. I won't cover that possibility. Check out the HOWTOs for more info. Having done one of the above, X should be able to find your fonts. The next requirement is to create or update a file called fonts.dir in the directory where your new fonts are now located. Red Hat updates fonts.dir for you at boot time automatically. Yours may as well. But you can create the file by connecting to the directory and typing rm -f fonts.dir && ttmkfontdir . Restart your X environment and see if your <program> can see your fonts. Good luck, Skip

Aug. 3, 2001

type1 fonts...

by Wesley Allen

Hello all, I've got some nice type 1 fonts that I want to insert for use in X and in ghostscript. Can anyone run though the right command sequences to do this? Thanks, Wes

Aug. 2, 2001

Re: [Wlug] ipaq and QTe

by Scott Venier

QPE has a settings app called Light & Power that can control the backlight. Make sure you install apmd and h3600-utils out of familiar also. I just wrote a little script for syncing: #!/bin/sh ntpdate my.home.time.server ipkg update ipkg upgrade RSYNC_RSH=ssh export RSYNC_RSH rsync -va --exclude=/proc / user@my.home.machine:/path/to/backup I think it'll just be a matter of time before there are KDE apps that can do real syncing with the qpe PDA utilities. Scott On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Brad Noyes wrote: > Hey Gang, > I finally installed linux on my ipaq, and installed QT embedded last night, > and part of this morning. I like it so far, there are a few things that are > missing, one of which i find to be a real big down side. I can't seem to > turn off the back light. I don't want all my batter sucked up from the > backlight. Anyone else have this problem know how to fix this, or have > any suggestions? > > i was also wondering if anyone knows of any/some good sync tools, for linux, > and the ipaq. > > Thanks, > --Brad > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 1, 2001