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More stuff!

by Theo Van Dinter

Sorry for the short notice, but we found some more stuff while gathering equipment for tonight's meeting! If you're interested in something for the meeting, please let me know before 5:30pm. hardware: Adtran DSU II AR (CSU/DSU) 5 dec hubs/repeaters (only 3 power supplies) 3 button mouse P133 CPU w/ fan random sealed card (NVRAM board I think) and memory for a PIX 10000 firewall. software: (windows, sorry...) shrinkwrapped box, "CD-ROM Bundle" - "Encyclopedia 6 Titles Bundle: (1-4) Mindscape CD Deluxe 4 Pack includes: * Chessmaster 4000, * Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing! v3.0, * U.S. Atlas v5.0, * World Atlas v5.0, (5) The San Diego Zoo: The Animals! v2.0, (6) Compton's Encyclopedia 1997 book: Computers, Ethics & Social Values edited by Johnson and Nissenbaum. c.1995 Prentice Hall -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Linux: Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste. (By komarimf(a)craft.camp.clarkson.edu, Mark Komarinski)

Aug. 16, 2001

Linux Sparc Boxes - freebie and selling

by john＠stoffel.org

Guys, I've got some Sparc Classics with RH 6.1 pre-installed. Mostly they have 1-2gb disks with 32-64mb of RAM, builtin ethernet, SCSI, video. I've also got keyboards and mice to go with each one. I'd like to get rid of these from the garage finally. So I'll be raffling off one tonight at the meeting, and I'll bring others for those who want to pay $40 one. I think I have 8 for sale, maybe more, maybe less. I'll give you money back if it doesn't work out of the box. These suckers make nice home servers, and it's easy to addon extra storage, etc. They all worked just fine when booted and installed over the network not too long ago. Sorry for the late notice, and if I have any left over afterwards, I'll bring em back next time as well. Please send requests to 'john(a)stoffel.org'. Thanks, John

Aug. 16, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Linux Sparc Boxes - freebie and selling

by A. Perry

John, I can't make it to tonight's WLUG meeting. However, I'd like to buy two of these (@ $40 each) if we can make other arrangements for pickup. Depending on where you live (or work), I can probably come by your house (or workplace) sometime in the next week or so. Thanks, Andrew Perry >Guys, > >I've got some Sparc Classics with RH 6.1 pre-installed. Mostly they >have 1-2gb disks with 32-64mb of RAM, builtin ethernet, SCSI, video. >I've also got keyboards and mice to go with each one. > >I'd like to get rid of these from the garage finally. So I'll be >raffling off one tonight at the meeting, and I'll bring others for >those who want to pay $40 one. I think I have 8 for sale, maybe >more, maybe less. I'll give you money back if it doesn't work out of >the box. > >These suckers make nice home servers, and it's easy to addon extra >storage, etc. They all worked just fine when booted and installed >over the network not too long ago. > >Sorry for the late notice, and if I have any left over afterwards, >I'll bring em back next time as well. > >Please send requests to 'john(a)stoffel.org'. > >Thanks, >John > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 16, 2001

RE: [Wlug] Cheap RAM ...

by Keller, Tim

The "GENERIC" manufacturer scares me a bit... Though on the same vein, I saw that Short-circuit city is selling "Centon" 256MB PC100 ram for 44.99 after rebate. Once again, I'm not sure if Centon is any better than GENERIC. Though for 120 bucks I could have 2gig of ram in my machine (provided my motherboard would support more than 128mb per slot)! Hmmm... now I just need a server motherboard that has like 12 memory slots!!! (kneeds hands together thinking about having to turn on BIGMEM stuff in kernel :-P) I went looking on http://www.thechipmerchant.com/19633-0.html (which I've had great luck with buying stuff) and it looks like there selling something comparable for 50.00 bucks... however they gave specific chipsets it would work with. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:59 PM To: Worcester Linux User's Group Subject: [Wlug] Cheap RAM ... A friend sent this to me and I thought others would be interested: http://store.ccraft.net/PPmain.asp?ItemCode=3398&Action=Mostrar&msk=PD 512MB PC133 for $30 each. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Duct tape is like the force; it has a light side & a dark side, and it holds the universe together." - Zen Musings _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 16, 2001

Cheap RAM ...

by Theo Van Dinter

A friend sent this to me and I thought others would be interested: http://store.ccraft.net/PPmain.asp?ItemCode=3398&Action=Mostrar&msk=PD 512MB PC133 for $30 each. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Duct tape is like the force; it has a light side & a dark side, and it holds the universe together." - Zen Musings

Aug. 15, 2001

REMINDER: Next meeting on Thursday

by Andy Stewart

HI gang, The next WLUG meeting will be held this week on Thursday, August 16th at 7:00 PM in "the usual place". Please check the WLUG website for more information. At this meeting, the speaker will be Brian Conway, who will be talking about the use of DVDs with Linux. Bring your favorite DVD and maybe we can play it on a Linux system! After the meeting, we'll be going to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer and anybody who comes to the meeting is welcome to join us. Come on down...it should be a good time. Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Aug. 15, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Extra Hardware

by Theo Van Dinter

Since everyone else and their close family members are giving away hardware, I wanted to make sure I offered the stuff I have available ... We're in the midst of cleaning out our apartment and have software, hardware, books, magazine, etc. I'm planning to be at the meeting on Thursday (8/16), so if you want any of this stuff let me know and I'll bring it down. :) (if you aren't at the meeting but want some stuff, let me know anyway and we'll work something out...) There's too much for a listing here though: http://www.kluge.net/~felicity/items.html -- Randomly Generated Tagline: signal(i, SIG_DFL); /* crunch, crunch, crunch */ -- Larry Wall in doarg.c from the perl source code

Aug. 15, 2001

Re: [Wlug] DVD's to bring?

by Brian J. Conway

> For the DVD demo thingy, what are people going to bring for DVD's? People are bringing DVDs? That wasn't part of the deal. If you brought a DVD that I had prepared with the presentation it could be like plugging a USB scanner into a Win98 beta. Okay, nevermind. ;-) > I'll bring "Ghost in the Shell". The thing that makes this DVD so special > is that for some reason the authors chose not to encrypt the disk using CSS. > Its the only non encrypted DVD I've ever come across. Sounds good, I don't have any unencrypted DVDs that I know of. -b

Aug. 15, 2001

REMINDER: Next meeting on Thursday

by Andy Stewart

HI gang, The next WLUG meeting will be held this week on Thursday, August 16th at 7:00 PM in "the usual place". Please check the WLUG website for more information. At this meeting, the speaker will be Brian Conway, who will be talking about the use of DVDs with Linux. Bring your favorite DVD and maybe we can play it on a Linux system! After the meeting, we'll be going to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer and anybody who comes to the meeting is welcome to join us. Come on down...it should be a good time. Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Aug. 14, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Extra Hardware

by Dan Crooks

I would be happy to have one or more or all of those scsi drives. BTW when is the next meeting? Dan Crooks On Sunday 12 August 2001 01:52 pm, you wrote: > Speaking o' which.... > > I have 4 2.4 gig scsi drives in enclosures. Most have centronix > connectors. I have some cables too. They are about to be donated to > goodwill, but I will hold them till this month's meeting if someone wants > them. Let me know by cc'ing to ghostis(a)myrealbox.com; my procmail filter > is on the fritz so your wlug reply may get lost in the shuffle. I also > have an axpci alpha board with cpu & memory in a case, but I don't know if > anyone would have a use for those things anymore... > > -Adam > > On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, Brian Niece wrote: > > It is with a heavy heart that I make the following announcement: > > > > After seven enjoyable and educational years, I am shutting down my last > > Linux computer. After taking out the parts that I need for my zippy new > > Athlon and donating most of the computer to my employer, I will have the > > following left over. I don't feel like dealing with Ebay, so I will > > gladly give them to the first respondents who contact me and are willing > > to pick them up. > > > > The items are: > > > > 1 Seagate Medalist Pro 1080, 1 Gb SCSI hard drive > > 1 Seagate Medalist Pro 2160, 2 Gb SCSI hard drive > > 1 Sony CDU76S, 4x SCSI CD-ROM Drive > > 1 50 pin internal SCSI hard drive cable. > > > > -- > > Brian K. Niece, Ph.D. > > Assistant Professor of Chemistry > > Assumption College > > 500 Salisbury St. > > Worcester, MA 01609-1296 > > 508-767-7209 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _____________________________________________ > > Adam Keck The Mathworks > > 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma > > www.mathworks.com > > FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator > > _____________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 14, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Network Install

by Colin Novick

Hard to correct the source of an error message you don't understand, and can't find elsewhere. During a Network Install of Mandrake Linux 7.2 I get: "SIOCSIFFLAGS Device or resource busy" The only option is to click "ok" or "next", both of which result in a hang you can CTRL-ALT-DEL out of. What does this mean? Also is this at all tied to the computer requesting a Default Gateway IP and Nameserver? I personally doubt it, but I ask in that I have been trying to establish if the gateway is the IP# for the my ISP through the modem on the other machine (The machine gives me default values that are just as poorly recieved.) Thanks, Colin P.S. Below is the distro specific tree of choices that yields this response. It is not necessarily useful to most folks but I include it in the off chance it yields a hint. If the error is out of context I can contextualize it: Method of Install; type of medium: NFS *select* FTP HTTP It auto detects the NIC and proposes a module OK *select* Boot Protocol: Manual *select* DHCP Bootp Config TCP/IP: IP Add 192.168.0.150 Net Mask: 255.255.255.0 Gateway IP: 192.168.0.254 (Default Values but have tried others) Name Serv: 192.168.0.1 (Default Values but have tried others)

Aug. 13, 2001

DVD's to bring?

by Keller, Tim

Hey All, For the DVD demo thingy, what are people going to bring for DVD's? I'll bring "Ghost in the Shell". The thing that makes this DVD so special is that for some reason the authors chose not to encrypt the disk using CSS. Its the only non encrypted DVD I've ever come across. Tim.

Aug. 13, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Network Install

by Doug Chamberlin

At 8/13/2001 07:51 AM (Monday), Colin Novick wrote: >Progress! Don't forget to stop after those moments of progress and savor the moment. If you take a pause only when you are stumped your time will be filled with negatives and it will drag you down for sure! Good luck!

Aug. 13, 2001

phpgroupware?

by Wesley Allen

Greetings, We've just set up a new mail server here where I work and we want to get phpgroupware up as a web-client. Here is my question, does anyone know of any way we can set phpgroupware to auto-sync linux users with the mysql database backend? Any info would be useful, I don't want to have to set everyone up twice. Wes

Aug. 13, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Network Install

by Doug Chamberlin

At 8/13/2001 11:15 AM (Monday), Colin Novick wrote: >I am now staring at a: > 3Com Fast Ethernet PCI NIC 3CSOHO100-TX Yeah, I would be wary of anything labelled "SOHO" since it is probably a dumbed-down version of a decent product. Sorry I cannot help!

Aug. 13, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Network Install

by Colin Novick

Sometimes you feel like a dang fool. Compatibility woes for the unlearned. Should'a had a list of "good cards" when I went to buy one. In my youthful exuberance I went out and bought a 3Com card figuring that it would have a great likelihood of driver/module compatibility. I was half right. Lots of 3Com cards are. I am now staring at a: 3Com Fast Ethernet PCI NIC 3CSOHO100-TX Guess what doesn't appear to be supported with drivers or module #'s for Linux? Feel free to show me up by pointing to where to look, as my searches have yielded nothing. 3Com is useless on this point. Colin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 08/11/01, 04:24:02, skip gaede <sgaede(a)mediaone.net> wrote regarding Re: [Wlug] Network Install: > On Friday 10 August 2001 12:21, you wrote: > > I freely confess my inexperience. > > > > I have done a number of successful CDROM installs from Mandrake > > 6.1-7.1-7.2. > > > > I have an old box I scrounged but without a servicable CDROM drive. > > I want to install Linux on it, but need to do a Network Install. > > I am not finding detailed documentation on this and will continue to > > hunt. If anyone has a hint as to where to look or experience to kick > > me in the pants in the right direction I would be terribly grateful. > > > I just looked at a Mandrake distro and they include a floppy image for > network installation, but without much in the way of documentation. > Create the floppy: dd -if=/mnt/cdrom/images/network.img -of=/dev/fd0 > Mount it: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy > the ks.cfg contains: > nfs --server 192.168.1.9 --dir /export > #url --url ftp://a:a@192.168.1.9//export > network --bootproto dhcp > At this point, you're on your own. > Aother poster suggested copying the files to the HDD. There's also a > boot floppy on my CD for doing HDD installs. > Let us know how you make out! > --Skip > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Aug. 13, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Network Install

by Colin Novick

Progress! After a number of failed attempts (what are the odds of 2 toasted 3.5" floppies in a row?) I have produced a network.img for Mandrake, and the network boot believes that it detects the card and can identify it through an exisiting module 3c59x, despite the card not being on anybody's list. Now onto the sticky part. Getting the network connection between the two computers on line to transfer the distro. This is the hard part due to vast inexperience, and the knowledge is also why I am trying in the first place. Thank you all for the moral support. I need it. Colin > >I am now staring at a: > > 3Com Fast Ethernet PCI NIC 3CSOHO100-TX > > Yeah, I would be wary of anything labelled "SOHO" since it is probably a > dumbed-down version of a decent product. > > Sorry I cannot help!

Aug. 13, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Extra Hardware

by Adam Keck

Speaking o' which.... I have 4 2.4 gig scsi drives in enclosures. Most have centronix connectors. I have some cables too. They are about to be donated to goodwill, but I will hold them till this month's meeting if someone wants them. Let me know by cc'ing to ghostis(a)myrealbox.com; my procmail filter is on the fritz so your wlug reply may get lost in the shuffle. I also have an axpci alpha board with cpu & memory in a case, but I don't know if anyone would have a use for those things anymore... -Adam On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, Brian Niece wrote: > It is with a heavy heart that I make the following announcement: > > After seven enjoyable and educational years, I am shutting down my last > Linux computer. After taking out the parts that I need for my zippy new > Athlon and donating most of the computer to my employer, I will have the > following left over. I don't feel like dealing with Ebay, so I will gladly > give them to the first respondents who contact me and are willing to pick > them up. > > The items are: > > 1 Seagate Medalist Pro 1080, 1 Gb SCSI hard drive > 1 Seagate Medalist Pro 2160, 2 Gb SCSI hard drive > 1 Sony CDU76S, 4x SCSI CD-ROM Drive > 1 50 pin internal SCSI hard drive cable. > > -- > Brian K. Niece, Ph.D. > Assistant Professor of Chemistry > Assumption College > 500 Salisbury St. > Worcester, MA 01609-1296 > 508-767-7209 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________

Aug. 12, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Question

by Mike Peckar

Wes's suggestion is excellent. If you can, lay your hands on a small router like a Cisco 2600 and learn IOS. Configure up your network in different ways to learn networking fundamentals - set up a class A, Class B, and Class C network, then do it using variable length subnet masks, etc. Set up a VPN, play with DHCP, RIP, and OSPF (if you can), and firwalls - 90 percent of security management is network administration. Download network and systems management tools. Many that are not free have 30 to 60 day timebomed versions that are full-featured. Get to know sniffers, SNMP managers, anything, everything. On the linux side check out snoop, openNMS, UCD SNMP, and others. if you have a Sun or NT box, you can download an evaluation copy of HP OpenView Network Node Manager - all the OpenView documentation is online and you can learn a lot from reading docs even without the software. Other vendors offer white papers that explain a lot of fundamentals - you can probalbly spend days at cisco.com, for example. Subscribe (for free) to the trade rags like Internet week, Network World, etc., and/or surf those sites for archived articles - many puplish articles explaining fundamentals. One of the most educational experiences for me (other than installing and networking linux boxes) was getting cracked. Seriously - you can learn a heck of a lot about network administration by understanding all it takes to install and configure an IRC chat bot on the sly - more than commercial experience imho. Many security sites give you windows into this world legally. hth, Mike (a network managemernt consultant by trade) ----- Original Message ----- From: Wesley Allen <wallen(a)mail.lexchristian.org> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Wlug] Question > Do a home network and hack it together. The sugguestion about getting > involved in help-desk work is really good too because all of the > sudden you HAVE to learn all this stuff so you can help people (though > you may go insane doing it, "I've got 600 messages in my "saved" box > on the mail server, should I have backed these up on my local > machine?"). If you've got a friend who is a system admin start > talking to them as you hack your network, this will have to be a good > friend who will not mind giving you advice for free that he charges > other people for; but friends can put into English what man pages can > only put into "networkspeak", without friends, I'd never even tried to > learn linux and would still be a slave of Microsoft. > Wes > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:57:27 -0400 > > >On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 02:25:15PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > >> I've seen good comments made about: > >> > >> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471345865/qid=997293880/sr=1-24/ref= sc_b_24/102-6048261-3490524 > > > >Also ISBN 0-201-43319-2 > > > >-- > >Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 15 > >Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | > >P.S. Perl's master plan (or what passes for one) is to take over the > >world like English did. Er, *as* English did... > > -- Larry Wall in <199705201832.LAA28393(a)wall.org> > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 12, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Extra Hardware

by Brian Niece

At 05:29 PM 8/11/01 -0400, you wrote: >I'll take it all. Those make excellent drives for synthesizers. O.K. Let me know when you'd like to get them, and I'll tell you whether it's better to meet me at home or at work. I'm glad they'll get some use. -Brian -- Brian K. Niece, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of Chemistry Assumption College 500 Salisbury St. Worcester, MA 01609-1296 508-767-7209

Aug. 12, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Extra Hardware

by ccb＠acm.org

I'll take it all. Those make excellent drives for synthesizers. ccb

Aug. 11, 2001

Extra Hardware

by Brian Niece

It is with a heavy heart that I make the following announcement: After seven enjoyable and educational years, I am shutting down my last Linux computer. After taking out the parts that I need for my zippy new Athlon and donating most of the computer to my employer, I will have the following left over. I don't feel like dealing with Ebay, so I will gladly give them to the first respondents who contact me and are willing to pick them up. The items are: 1 Seagate Medalist Pro 1080, 1 Gb SCSI hard drive 1 Seagate Medalist Pro 2160, 2 Gb SCSI hard drive 1 Sony CDU76S, 4x SCSI CD-ROM Drive 1 50 pin internal SCSI hard drive cable. -- Brian K. Niece, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of Chemistry Assumption College 500 Salisbury St. Worcester, MA 01609-1296 508-767-7209

Aug. 11, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Network Install

by skip gaede

On Friday 10 August 2001 12:21, you wrote: > I freely confess my inexperience. > > I have done a number of successful CDROM installs from Mandrake > 6.1-7.1-7.2. > > I have an old box I scrounged but without a servicable CDROM drive. > I want to install Linux on it, but need to do a Network Install. > I am not finding detailed documentation on this and will continue to > hunt. If anyone has a hint as to where to look or experience to kick > me in the pants in the right direction I would be terribly grateful. > I just looked at a Mandrake distro and they include a floppy image for network installation, but without much in the way of documentation. Create the floppy: dd -if=/mnt/cdrom/images/network.img -of=/dev/fd0 Mount it: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy the ks.cfg contains: nfs --server 192.168.1.9 --dir /export #url --url ftp://a:a@192.168.1.9//export network --bootproto dhcp At this point, you're on your own. Aother poster suggested copying the files to the HDD. There's also a boot floppy on my CD for doing HDD installs. Let us know how you make out! --Skip

Aug. 11, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Network Install

by Ben Dow

It's kind of cheap, but one thing you could do if you don't mind opening your case is toss the hard drive in your existing computer, install/copy the files onto it, and then put it back in the other computer. Failing that, I don't know how Mandrake manages the actual install, but you'll want to edit your /etc/exports file (I forget the exact syntax, but as I recall, it isn't too hard to figure out from the man pages) to include the directory with the sources in it. For security purposes, it's best to share it read-only, especially with NFS. On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Colin Novick wrote: > I freely confess my inexperience. > > I have done a number of successful CDROM installs from Mandrake 6.1-7.1-7.2. > > I have an old box I scrounged but without a servicable CDROM drive. > I want to install Linux on it, but need to do a Network Install. > I am not finding detailed documentation on this and will continue to hunt. > If anyone has a hint as to where to look or experience to kick me in the > pants in the right direction I would be terribly grateful. > > Thanks Colin > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Aug. 10, 2001

Network Install

by Colin Novick

I freely confess my inexperience. I have done a number of successful CDROM installs from Mandrake 6.1-7.1-7.2. I have an old box I scrounged but without a servicable CDROM drive. I want to install Linux on it, but need to do a Network Install. I am not finding detailed documentation on this and will continue to hunt. If anyone has a hint as to where to look or experience to kick me in the pants in the right direction I would be terribly grateful. Thanks Colin

Aug. 10, 2001