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Re: [Wlug] Linux distro bakeoff

by Mike Frysinger

what do you mean by 'show off' and 'look like' ? :) i use slackware on everything i have ... -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:39 PM Subject: [Wlug] Linux distro bakeoff > > HI gang, > > I have volunteers who will bring in computers showing off SuSE Linux 7.x > and Mandrake 8.1. Is there anybody else out there who would like to bring > in a machine running something different? I'm thinking of a Slackware, > Debian, Turbo Linux, etc. If you are interested, let me know. (The only > reason I didn't mention Redhat is that most people run it, and most of us > probably know what it looks like already). > > Later, > > Andy > -- > Andy Stewart > Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Jan. 8, 2002

Linux distro bakeoff

by Andy Stewart

HI gang, I have volunteers who will bring in computers showing off SuSE Linux 7.x and Mandrake 8.1. Is there anybody else out there who would like to bring in a machine running something different? I'm thinking of a Slackware, Debian, Turbo Linux, etc. If you are interested, let me know. (The only reason I didn't mention Redhat is that most people run it, and most of us probably know what it looks like already). Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Jan. 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Look what WPI's CS dept can do:

by Brian J. Conway

> http://cs.wpi.edu Assuming you're actually looking for information, you'll find it at http://www.cs.wpi.edu . If not, then okay, it's the CS department Linux machine (one among many). Christmastree.wpi.edu was better. ;-) -b

Jan. 5, 2002

Look what WPI's CS dept can do:

by Kingsbury, Michael

http://cs.wpi.edu -beaker

Jan. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Hostname

by Charles R . Anderson

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:13:32PM -0500, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: simoncim> I'm running Red Hat 7.1 at work on my laptop and the IP address is assigned simoncim> via DHCP. If I want to change my hostname from "localhost.localdomain" to simoncim> whatever I please, how do I do it? This depends, do you want to fix it to a value of your own choosing (which may not match the DNS for the IP you get from DHCP), or do you want to have it set to whatever the DHCP server is giving you as a hostname (which will likely match the DNS for the IP it gave you)? For the former, you can set it in the file: /etc/sysconfig/network either add or edit the existing HOSTNAME= line: HOSTNAME=whateveryouwant.domain.com then reboot (which sets the hostname to the above value automatically) or set the hostname manually if you do not wish to reboot: hostname whateveryouwant.domain.com If you want DHCP to set your hostname, there are several options, depending on what DHCP client you are using (pump, dhcpcd, or dhclient). I always recommend dhclient over the other two. You can get it at http://www.isc.org/, or RPM packages for Red Hat 7.1 (recommended) at ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/packages/isc/dhcp. Version 3.0 is the latest stable release, and 3.0.1rc4 is the latest release candidate. All you need is dhcp-3.0-1cra.i386.rpm and dhcp-client-3.0-1cra.i386.rpm. Install them like this (as root): rpm -Uvh dhcp-*3.0-1cra.i386.rpm The client package will automatically patch the necessary files in Red Hat (/sbin/ifup and /sbin/ifup if you are curious) to use dhclient before pump and/or dhcpcd if it exists. dhclient from the RPM packages will automatically set your hostname if the hostname is currently null, "(none)", "localhost" or "localhost.localdomain". You can control all sorts of behavior from the configuration file /etc/dhclient.conf. pump and dhcpcd I believe will also set the hostname if the current hostname matches the above list. They are supposed to do this one of two ways: 1. doing a reverse DNS lookup on the IP that DHCP assigns (pump --lookup-hostname or dhcpcd -H). or 2. using the hostname that DHCP passes back (pump -h or dhcpcd -h). You can force behavior 2 by setting the variable DHCP_HOSTNAME to anything in /etc/sysconfig/network: DHCP_HOSTNAME=yes Otherwise /sbin/ifup will use method 1. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Jan. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 audio questions...

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 03 January 2002 08:08 pm, Bryan Scaringe wrote: > > 2. What's the best place to get started to be able to receive web > > radio broadcasts? I haven't found anything very helpful in the RH > > distro. Maybe I'm not looking for the right thing? > > check the shoutcast and icecast homepages. You can use XMMS to listen. You might also try http://www.live365.com/home/index.live -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Jan. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Hostname

by Bryan Scaringe

> I'm running Red Hat 7.1 at work on my laptop and the IP address is assigned > via DHCP. If I want to change my hostname from "localhost.localdomain" to > whatever I please, how do I do it? I don't know how much you know about networks, so forgive me if I'm telling you anything you already know. You'll always want to have references in your hostfile to "localhost" as this is pretty much the standard way of referencing the local machine, and not having a "localhost" reference in your /etc/hosts file will break some programs and scripts. Also, it helps to define what is ment by "localdomain". Whether or not your machine has a network interface device, like a modem, or ethernet card, there is always a built-in network device called the "loopback device" or "loopback interface". If you run ifconfig, you should see some data about that, in addition to any other network devices you may have. This loopback device isn't really a physical device, but rather a software construct that acts like a network device. It allows two network applications to communicate if they are running on the same machine. Your IP for this device is 127.0.0.1. This device also need a network address, And if memory serves, any packet sent to 127.x.x.x will be sent out the loopback interface (and also, recieved throught the loopback interface). 127.0.0.0 is the local domain. Here's what I have in my /etc/hosts file: -------- 127.0.0.1 tundra localhost tundra.abyss localhost.localdomain 192.168.42.2 savannah savannah.abyss --------- First, the background: This machine is on a home network with the domainname "abyss". There are 2 machines on this network: "tundra" and "savannah". The machine that I snagged this /etc/hosts file from is tundra. What the first line does is establish 4 names for this machine: localhost, tundra, tundra.abyss, and localhost.localdomain. The second line adds an entry for the other machine on the home network, savannah. There is also another file called /etc/networks, which defines the network names in the same way that /etc/hosts defined hosts names. Here's mine: ---------- localdomain 127.0.0.0 abyss 192.168.42.0 ---------- The first line established the network on loopback device (which only has one machine). the secons establishes the external network. As you can see, the local network (localdomain) is NOT the same as an external network. If you don't have your machine on a home lan, Finally, my machine now has 2 names tundra and localhost. my /etc/hostname file has to include my desired hostname. It contains only one line, which has the name I'd like to use for my machine. ----------- tundra ----------- Hope this helps.

Jan. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 audio questions...

by Bryan Scaringe

> 2. What's the best place to get started to be able to receive web > radio broadcasts? I haven't found anything very helpful in the RH > distro. Maybe I'm not looking for the right thing? check the shoutcast and icecast homepages. You can use XMMS to listen.

Jan. 4, 2002

Hostname

by Simoncini, Matthew

Hi all, Newbie question ..... I'm running Red Hat 7.1 at work on my laptop and the IP address is assigned via DHCP. If I want to change my hostname from "localhost.localdomain" to whatever I please, how do I do it? Be gentle ... Matthew

Jan. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 audio questions...

by Charles R . Anderson

The alsa stuff comes with an initscript called alsasound in the utils/ subdirectory of the source. It gets installed automatically with a "make install" into /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound. You can enable alsasound to start automatically with these commands: /sbin/chkconfig --add /etc/rc.d/init.d/alsasound (only need to do this right after installing the first time) /sbin/chkconfig alsasound on or start/stop it at any time with these commands: /sbin/service alsasound start /sbin/service alsasound stop On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 02:42:01PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> So, what's the right way to load a module at boot? subssn594> 2. What's the best place to get started to be able to receive web subssn594> radio broadcasts? I haven't found anything very helpful in the RH subssn594> distro. Maybe I'm not looking for the right thing? Not sure, but you can hear the WPI radio station WWPI at http://radio.wpi.edu/ All you need is XMMS. There is a .pls file that gets downloaded. The .pls file contains a URL which can be loaded into XMMS via "Play Location". You can also set up your web browser to handle this automatically with a command line of "/usr/bin/xmms". -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Jan. 3, 2002

2 audio questions...

by Bill Mills-Curran

1. Thanks to the hints from this group, I was able to get the ALSA sound driver modules installed on my RedHat 7.1 box. (The subwoofer sounds great.) Now, since I'm a newbie WRT adding modules, I don't know the _right_ way to get them to load at boot. Right now, I just added some modprobe lines to /etc/rc.d/rc.local, but I suspect that's not right. (I did add some options lines to /etc/modules.conf, but since the syntax is unfamiliar to me, I did not see a way to actually load the module -- perhaps insmod?) So, what's the right way to load a module at boot? 2. What's the best place to get started to be able to receive web radio broadcasts? I haven't found anything very helpful in the RH distro. Maybe I'm not looking for the right thing? TIA, Bill

Jan. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] January meeting?

by Theo Van Dinter

On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 11:54:18AM -0500, William Smith wrote: > When is it? http://www.wlug.org/ WLUG's Next Meeting Wednesday January 16th, 2001 7:00 PM The Meeting Topic is: (Tentatively) The Linux Distribution Bakeoff RedHat, SuSE, and ??? *NOTE: New Meeting Location* Perreault Hall Fuller Labs WPI Campus Worcester, MA, USA (Ooh, in Perreault. That'll be a very big room for WLUG ... Is this permanent?) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: `When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*".' (By Linus Torvalds)

Jan. 3, 2002

January meeting?

by William Smith

When is it? -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com

Jan. 3, 2002

Installfest Time!

by Keller, Tim

Hey Everybody, As the Subject implies, it's Installfest time. I'm thinking of holding it the 9th of February, I'd like some input on if this is too early, etc... I'd also like other peoples input on stuff such as... 1. What distributions people should bring... 2. Possibly having a mini key signing party 3. Quake/Unreal/Castle Wolfenstein/tetrinet tournament. 4. Have some demonstrations going (such as transgaming running the sims/diablo2) Basically if you've got some idea that might improve the installfest, fire me an email! I'd also like some input from Andy about the possibility of using WLUG money to purchase something good for the raffle. I'm seeing if I can get us a big / better room for all this. Tim.

Jan. 3, 2002

test message

by Frank Sweetser

Test message to verify the list is working again -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 15 Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | "You afraid of cars?" --Kirk "[No], it's your driving." --Spock

Jan. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] sound module?

by Theo Van Dinter

On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 11:20:10PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I got a new (old) machine, and I'm having problems getting the sound card > working. The machine is a DELL Optiplex GX1, and the sound card is built > into the mother board. I can't see anything on the motherboard that tells > me what kind of sound card is there. I can't even find anything about the > motherboard other than it's Dell. I did a quick Google search and found this: http://www.alsa-project.org/archive/alsa-user/msg05819.html It requires the ALSA driver along with isapnp. Hope this helps. :) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS : Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux : Are you coming or what? - June 2000 issue of Linux Journal

Dec. 16, 2001

Re: [Wlug] sound module?

by Bill Mills-Curran

Andy, It doesn't look like lspci finds it: bcurran_newguy> lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 21) 00:0f.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21152 (rev 03) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c) Maybe I should just buy a new card? Bill On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Andy Stewart wrote: > Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 00:20:26 -0500 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] sound module? > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Yup, try "lspci" and see if the sound chip is hard wired to the PCI bus on > your motherboard. If so, it'll show up when you type "lspci". At least > that's how it works on my motherboard. > > My example (partial lspci output for my sound chip): > 00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06) > > Later, > > Andy > -- > Andy Stewart > Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 16, 2001

Re: [Wlug] sound module?

by Andy Stewart

> > Any ideas? > Yup, try "lspci" and see if the sound chip is hard wired to the PCI bus on your motherboard. If so, it'll show up when you type "lspci". At least that's how it works on my motherboard. My example (partial lspci output for my sound chip): 00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06) Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Dec. 16, 2001

sound module?

by Bill Mills-Curran

I got a new (old) machine, and I'm having problems getting the sound card working. The machine is a DELL Optiplex GX1, and the sound card is built into the mother board. I can't see anything on the motherboard that tells me what kind of sound card is there. I can't even find anything about the motherboard other than it's Dell. There are messages in my system log: Dec 15 22:21:31 newguy modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-slot-0 Dec 15 22:21:31 newguy modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-0 I get these messages at boot and whenever I put a music CD in the drive. Any ideas? TIA, Bill

Dec. 16, 2001

Re: [Wlug] help: printing to MS98 server

by Bill Mills-Curran

I posted the problem below, and I finally found out what was wrong with my lpd setup -- nothing! The entire problem was a setup on the W98 settings for the driver. All I had to do was disable bi-directional support for the printer. (I think it was enabled because I have a scanner head for the printer.) Just thought the group might like to know. Bill On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:07:46 -0500 (EST) > From: Bill Mills-Curran <subssn594(a)charter.net> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: [Wlug] help: printing to MS98 server > > I thought I had success (well, I had some) setting up printing to my > W98 printer. What I find is that I can print a postscript file to the > printer just fine -- at least the first page. But, I can't get more > than the first page to go. Here's my commands. The first is for a > postscript file, and the second uses nenscript so that I can print a > text file. > > cat mail.ps | gs -dNOPAUSE -q -sDEVICE=bjc600 -sOutputFile=- - | smbclient //bertha/CANON -c 'print -' > > nenscript -B -p - < mail.txt | gs -dNOPAUSE -q -sDEVICE=bjc600 -sOutputFile=- - | smbclient //bertha/CANON -c 'print -' > > I think I'm doing something wrong with the gs command, but I don't see > what. > > TIA, > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 15, 2001

Ok ...

by Theo Van Dinter

Ok, which one of you NetOps guys did this? ;) (It's Chuck, I knew it... He's even on the page!) http://christmastree.wpi.edu/ I think this is the first time I've seen WPI mentioned on the front-page of /. ... ;) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Presenting.... MIP- Men in Pain Starring... Mr. T... Our new security advisor... pocket protectors with an attitude! "I pity the fool who tries to break into MY firewall!"" -Don Roeber

Dec. 15, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Re: Configuring Linux laptop for cable modem access???

by John Stoffel

Andy> WLUG: Any thoughts on how to configure a laptop running RedHat Andy> 7.1 for access to the Charter Pipeline cable modem? Is there Andy> anything special with Charter Pipeline vs. any other cable Andy> modem? There's nothing special with Charter, I'm running it at home without a problem. I'd suggest that they use 'pump' to do their network configuration, it's easy and works fine. John

Dec. 13, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Re: Configuring Linux laptop for cable modem access???

by Theo Van Dinter

On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 10:27:01AM -0500, Gerrald Smith wrote: > I am a novice with Linux. How do you and where do you configure the > interface? I looked in my directory for internet config files and I could > not find anything. the easiest way would be to run linuxconf or netcfg and go through the GUI. the short version would be to go into /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts and edit ifcfg-eth0. Change the "bootproto" line to be "dhcp" instead of "none" (assuming it's configured statically at the moment.) The RedHat documentation has information on this. If you don't have the manual (I forget if there's an electronic version on the RH CDs), you can look at them from the RedHat site. Specifically: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/custom-guide/config… You may also be interested in the Cable Modem How-to: http://www.linux.com/howto/Cable-Modem/index.html -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "My spleen is twice the size of a normal human spleen. This isn't such a big deal right now, but after I'm dead ... There's going to be a bidding war." - Dave Foley, Kids in the Hall

Dec. 13, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Re: Configuring Linux laptop for cable modem access???

by Stephen Daukas

Hi Gerrald! There is nothing special you need do. I have a laptop running RH7.1 and am using a "cable modem" (Surf Board) in Shrewsbury. I also have a home network, but that doean't make any difference - you either configure the router or the PC to talk to the cable modem. Assuming you have DHCP (i.e., you do not have a static IP assigned), you should be able to simply configure your ethernet interface and plug it into the cable modem. There is a good chance eth0 is already setup if you installed RH onto the laptop with the nic card already installed. You can use Linuxconf to set up eth0 for dhcp and that is about it (use the masks given to you by the cable company, as well as DNS settings, etc.). Of course, you might want to consider putting a firewall between you and the rest of the world because when you plug your PC directly into a cable modem, the anyone on that system can now see you computer... Steve ---- Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> wrote: > > Hi Gerrald, > > I don't know the answer directly, as I don't run RedHat on my systems at > home. I'm forwarding this to the WLUG mailing list, as somebody there > probably knows the answer. > > WLUG: Any thoughts on how to configure a laptop running RedHat 7.1 for > access to the Charter Pipeline cable modem? Is there anything special > with Charter Pipeline vs. any other cable modem? > > Please don't forget to cc: gsmith(a)caldera.com on this one. > > Thanks, > > Andy > > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote: > > Andy Stewart, > > > > Can you tell me how I can configure my Red Hat 7.1 laptop, which has a > > Ethernet card, for a cable modem-Charter Pipeline? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Gerrald Smith > > Business Developer Manager > > Caldera Business Services > > > > > > Caldera International > > 73 Princeton St. > > North Chelmsford, MA 01863 > > > > gsmith(a)caldera.com > > www.caldera.com > > > > Ph. 978-251-1987 x234 > > FAX 978-251-1987 > > -- > Andy Stewart > Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailma

Dec. 13, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Re: Configuring Linux laptop for cable modem access???

by Charles R . Anderson

On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 09:31:28AM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: andystewart> WLUG: Any thoughts on how to configure a laptop running RedHat 7.1 for andystewart> access to the Charter Pipeline cable modem? Is there anything special andystewart> with Charter Pipeline vs. any other cable modem? andystewart> andystewart> Please don't forget to cc: gsmith(a)caldera.com on this one. If Charter Pipeline uses DHCP, all you have to do is type netconf as root, go to Host name and IP network devices, and set Adaptor 1 (eth0) to Enabled and Dhcp.

Dec. 13, 2001