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Re: [Wlug] Killer Apps Image.

by Stephen Daukas

I agree. After all, its the content that counts. I too read from machines other than my own and not only is text only safer, its faster. Then again, using several foreign machines from time to time, some mailers don't give you the option to go text-only, but you usually have the option of sending plain text as well as the rest of the junk. ---- lug(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 02:22:07AM -0500, Aaron Haviland wrote: > > ...or he could just configure it properly :-) > > It is configured properly, IMO. > > - Aside from the whole "email is TEXT goddamnit" argument (which I happen to > agree with) have you seen some of the sludge that some of these mailreaders > generate and label as HTML? > > - If the sender's email app is set up properly, even if it is sending an HTML > version it should at least have the courtesy to include a plain text version > as well. > > - I read my email through a web frontend ocasionally. I have it configured > to only read the text portion of the message, because I'm usually using > it from something other than my own machine, so I have no idea if it even > has basic security precautions against HTML viruses/trojans/etc in > place. > > - Going text -> HTML increases bandwidth needed (by 3 or 4 times with some > of the "let's explicitly wrap everything in every tag we can think of" > jobs I've seen - there's a reason the program to beautify FP output is > called demoroniser), but rarely adds little additional content. Why > waste bandwidth? > > -- > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 16 > Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | > I went to the eye doctor and found out I needed glasses for reading. > So, I got some flip-up contact lenses. -- Stephen Wright > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailma

Feb. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG meeting Thursday, Feb. 14th

by doug waud

Andy Stewart wrote > There will > be a couple of items available for raffle. Will that include carefully washed CDs ? doug

Feb. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Newbie question

by Marc Hughes

(Sorry about the double-post, but I feel your pain for the html email) Under most distros you can just add it to your /etc/fstab. This file tells linux what and how to mount various file systems. I would assume it works under Suse. The fstab of the machine I'm on looks like this: /dev/rd/c0d0p3 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/rd/c0d0p1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p6 /data ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p2 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p5 /tmp ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p1 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p3 /var ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/rd/c0d0p2 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults 0 0 Which is a horrible example for a newbie question since the weird dev devices are hardware raid. But the last line is the interesting one. It tells the system to mount /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows using the vfat file system. There are a bunch of options you can put in there like making it user-mountable, read all about those in the man pages (man fstab) -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@ma.ultranet.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:46 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Newbie question Where do I put the command to mount my windows partition in linux, automatically at bootup, so I don't have to keep typing it? Using SuSE 7.2 and usually booting with loadlin, occasionally booting with floppy. Thanks in advance, Greg P.S. More questions to come as I figure out how to ask them. Fair Warning: I own a cdrw and a scanner. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 12, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Newbie question

by Marc Hughes

Under most distros you can just add it to your /etc/fstab. This file tells linux what and how to mount various file systems. I would assume it works under Suse. The fstab of the machine I'm on looks like this: /dev/rd/c0d0p3 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/rd/c0d0p1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p6 /data ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p2 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p5 /tmp ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p1 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/rd/c0d1p3 /var ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/rd/c0d0p2 swap swap defaults 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults 0 0 Which is a horrible example for a newbie question since the weird dev devices are hardware raid. But the last line is the interesting one. It tells the system to mount /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows using the vfat file system. There are a bunch of options you can put in there like making it user-mountable, read all about those in the man pages (man fstab) -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@ma.ultranet.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:46 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Newbie question Where do I put the command to mount my windows partition in linux, automatically at bootup, so I don't have to keep typing it? Using SuSE 7.2 and usually booting with loadlin, occasionally booting with floppy. Thanks in advance, Greg P.S. More questions to come as I figure out how to ask them. Fair Warning: I own a cdrw and a scanner. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Killer Apps Image.

by Charles R. Anderson

Please turn off HTML in your mail program. Thanks. On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 05:27:45PM +0000, luke macneil wrote: [-- text/html is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --]

Feb. 12, 2002

Killer Apps Image.

by luke macneil

Feb. 12, 2002

Newbie Answer.

by luke macneil

Feb. 12, 2002

Newbie question

by Gregory Avedissian

Where do I put the command to mount my windows partition in linux, automatically at bootup, so I don't have to keep typing it? Using SuSE 7.2 and usually booting with loadlin, occasionally booting with floppy. Thanks in advance, Greg P.S. More questions to come as I figure out how to ask them. Fair Warning: I own a cdrw and a scanner.

Feb. 12, 2002

Downloads...

by Stephen C. Daukas

While I think having an ISO image for download would be a good idea, a general download area where folks can post items of interest, say from one of the WLUGs, might be a better idea. That way, if someone has items that have been discussed in either a meeting or on the mailing list, then they can put it somewhere for others to grab. Of course, there is the perennial problem of making sure this isn't used for illicit materials and/or that the site isn't swamped, but there are many ways to manage that. Most companies have an area for this sort of thing and I'll bet we could come up with a solution as well. Too bad I can't make the next meeting, but I'll bet a good discussion over pizza and beer might yield some good ideas! Regards, Steve P.S. I'm just in the process of building a new RH server machine for myself and my domains. I plan on having such a download area and would be interested in being educated as to the pros and cons of that sort of service. I had thought about putting Linux stuff in there, so maybe there is a potential fit with WLUG?

Feb. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG meeting Thursday, Feb. 14th

by Stephen C. Daukas

I will not be able to attend - the boss insists we celebrate Valentines Day. Catch you at the next one. Steve At 09:22 PM 2/11/2002, you wrote: >HI everybody, > >This e-mail is to remind you about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held >on Thursday, February 14th, 2002, in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus. >This is our "normal" meeting location. > >At this meeting, WLUG member Marc Hughes will be presenting some >information about Borland's Kylix software which runs on Linux. For more >info, consult http://www.borland.com/kylix. > > I'll be showing the kylix development environment, touching > briefly on > the licensing issues with their "free" version, creating a small app, > and then showing off a larger more complex application. Time > permitting, I'll quickly go over some other development environments > such as Kdeveloper and glade. > >Also at this meeting, I'll give a quick financial report and we'll talk >about the results of the install fest from this past weekend. There will >be a couple of items available for raffle. > >Refreshments will be available. After the meeting, we'll go to the >Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. This has become quite a tradition >after WLUG meetings and is a great time. > >See ya on Thursday, > >Andy >-- >Andy Stewart >Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA, USA >http://www.wlug.org > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 12, 2002

Andy's new e-mail address

by Andy Stewart

HI gang, My new e-mail address,which is working now, is: andystewart(a)attbi.com Mail sent to my old address will be forwarded until March 15, 2002, at which time it will get dropped on the floor. I have update all links with my name on the WLUG website (I think). Now I just have to find the other 5000 places to change....... -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] REMINDER: WLUG meeting Thursday, Feb. 14th

by Brian J. Conway

> This e-mail is to remind you about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held > on Thursday, February 14th, 2002, in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus. > This is our "normal" meeting location. Are you implying that geeks and Valentine's Day are mutually exclusive? ;-) Brian J. Conway bconway(a)wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

Feb. 12, 2002

REMINDER: WLUG meeting Thursday, Feb. 14th

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, This e-mail is to remind you about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Thursday, February 14th, 2002, in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus. This is our "normal" meeting location. At this meeting, WLUG member Marc Hughes will be presenting some information about Borland's Kylix software which runs on Linux. For more info, consult http://www.borland.com/kylix. I'll be showing the kylix development environment, touching briefly on the licensing issues with their "free" version, creating a small app, and then showing off a larger more complex application. Time permitting, I'll quickly go over some other development environments such as Kdeveloper and glade. Also at this meeting, I'll give a quick financial report and we'll talk about the results of the install fest from this past weekend. There will be a couple of items available for raffle. Refreshments will be available. After the meeting, we'll go to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. This has become quite a tradition after WLUG meetings and is a great time. See ya on Thursday, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 12, 2002

4th annual Installfest a complete success!

by Keller, Tim

Hey All, The installfest was a complete success! Statistics: Total Installs: 8 Percentage successful: 100% Installs that were a no-show: ~2 (both Stratus employees, I'll be hunting them down later today...) Pizzas Ordered: 6 Percentage devoured: 100% Number of junker pc's that one installee cannibalized to make one working machine: 3 Raffle Info: Congratulations to Colin Novick and Bill Mills-Curran who both won copies of "Linux System Administration: A Users Guide." The Installers: Andy Stewart Al Butler Brian Waite Chuck Anderson David Lugwig Mani Sundaram Marc Hughes (If I've forgotten anybody, just send an addendum...) Other Stuff: Someone asked about the goodies CD's... There are a couple of things. 1. If Chuck has the space, I'd gladly upload it and he can mount it on a loopback. 2. I will cut a couple more copies (I might add some more stuff) and bring them to the meeting on Thursday. If you specify want a copy, drop me a line and I'll make you up one explicitly. This year was a resounding success and I'm hoping that the 5th annual will be even better! Later! Tim.

Feb. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Installfest.

by William Smith

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: AS>If you can make it to the WLUG meeting on Thursday, you could probably AS>pick up a copy from somebody. I don't know if Tim has any extras, but I'd AS>make you a copy of mine if he didn't. i'll probably kick myself for even suggesting this, but what about having an .ISO image available to download? yes, i know it's huge, but having all that stuff in one place would be nice! the download wouldn't be any worse than trying to grab a Linux distro... -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com

Feb. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Install Fest CDs

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:41:06 -0500 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] WLUG Install Fest CDs > > > Hey gang, > > DON'T do what I just did. My WLUG install fest CDs were quite dusty when > I got them home, so I rinsed them off in water as I have done with other > CDs many times in the past. However, the paint on the WLUG install fest > CDs is WATER SOLUBLE and washes away very quickly in cold water. :-( > > Later, > > Andy > -- > Andy Stewart > Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > Andy, You were supposed to iron them first. :-) Bill

Feb. 11, 2002

WLUG Install Fest CDs

by Andy Stewart

Hey gang, DON'T do what I just did. My WLUG install fest CDs were quite dusty when I got them home, so I rinsed them off in water as I have done with other CDs many times in the past. However, the paint on the WLUG install fest CDs is WATER SOLUBLE and washes away very quickly in cold water. :-( Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] (no subject)

by Andy Stewart

On Saturday 09 February 2002 10:12 pm, you wrote: > Hi all, > How did the install-fest go? I really wanted to come, > but my daughter came down with a high fever and we had to > schedule a doctor's appointment. I could have come > earlier than I was planning but it didn't feel right to > say to my two year old, "Sorry you feel awful and need to > go to the doctor, daddy can't play right now I'm going to > hang out with a buch I geeks I've never even personally > met" I was rather proud of myself, I only considered > telling my daughter for about a second before I slapped > myself in the face ("But for an android, that is a > lifetime"). > How many people showed up?? > > Wes Well, unfortunately I had to leave early (1:00 PM) but when I had left, I had gotten SuSE 7.2 Pro working on one machine and X Windows and the network were working. Tim: what is the official tally of installations vs. success stories? Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Installfest Photos

by Andy Stewart

On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:47 pm, you wrote: > Photos from today's installfest are up at: > http://gallery.oflove.com/wlug Great job on the photos! -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Installfest.

by Andy Stewart

On Saturday 09 February 2002 03:28 pm, you wrote: > Im sorry I didnt make it to the installfest, I was really planning on > it. > > I slept until 2:30, then I printed the directions and headed for 495.. > but once i got to the ramp it was 3 oclock... and the installfest ended > at 4... so I just turned around and went home.. > > Im pissed, I really wanted a Killer Apps CD :) > > Luke. If you can make it to the WLUG meeting on Thursday, you could probably pick up a copy from somebody. I don't know if Tim has any extras, but I'd make you a copy of mine if he didn't. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Feb. 10, 2002

(no subject)

by Wesley Allen

Hi all, How did the install-fest go? I really wanted to come, but my daughter came down with a high fever and we had to schedule a doctor's appointment. I could have come earlier than I was planning but it didn't feel right to say to my two year old, "Sorry you feel awful and need to go to the doctor, daddy can't play right now I'm going to hang out with a buch I geeks I've never even personally met" I was rather proud of myself, I only considered telling my daughter for about a second before I slapped myself in the face ("But for an android, that is a lifetime"). How many people showed up?? Wes

Feb. 10, 2002

Installfest Photos

by David Lee Ludwig

Photos from today's installfest are up at: http://gallery.oflove.com/wlug -- David Ludwig | "The Linux philosophy is laugh in the face of davidl<at>wpi.edu | danger. Oops. Wrong One. 'Do it yourself.' http://www.oflove.com | That's it." - Linus Torvalds

Feb. 10, 2002

Installfest.

by luke macneil

Im sorry I didnt make it to the installfest, I was really planning on it. I slept until 2:30, then I printed the directions and headed for 495.. but once i got to the ramp it was 3 oclock... and the installfest ended at 4... so I just turned around and went home.. Im pissed, I really wanted a Killer Apps CD :) Luke. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Feb. 9, 2002

samba & window share names

by Dennis Payne

Is there some easy way to resolve names to their windows share. I got annoyed at typing in ip addresses and wrote a quick script to use nmblookup to get the ip address and shove it into the /etc/hosts file. Unfortunately you have to code what hosts it enters. I'd rather have it automatically do it for all machines. (Note: this script isn't quite correct. It doesn't handle some error conditions right and wipes out the /etc/hosts file. If there is interest in the fixed version let me know and I'll get it.) Dennis Payne dulsi(a)identicalsoftware.com #!/bin/bash function nmbreplacename { answer=`nmblookup $1 | grep -v querying | sed -e 's/.[0-9][0-9].$//g'` if [ `echo $answer | cut -d' ' -f1` = 'name_query' ]; then echo $1 not found else #sedexec='s/^.*zeteta.*$/'$answer'/g' #echo $sedexec if [ -z "`egrep "^.*$1.*$" /etc/hosts`" ]; then echo $answer >>/etc/hosts else sed -e "s/^.*$1.*$/$answer/g" </etc/hosts >/etc/hosts.new mv /etc/hosts.new /etc/hosts fi fi return 0; } nmbreplacename foo nmbreplacename bar

Feb. 9, 2002

RE: [Wlug] PDA's and Linux

by Marc Hughes

I was at linux world and got to play with a zarus... One word: wow. Hardware wise, it's essentially an iPaq. But it adds an integrated keyboard and a SD slot. And even better, it runs linux out of the box. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Wesley Allen [mailto:wallen@charter.net] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:29 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] PDA's and Linux You can get an Agenda VR3 on ebay for reasonably cheap. But I'd wait for the zarus, it looks sweet! Wes On Fri, 2002-02-08 at 12:01, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm in the market for a decent PDA (Palm III died) and was wondering what > everyone's experience has been with PDA's and synching with a Linux machine. > I run Red Hat 7.1, not sure what kernel, but wanted to make sure the PDA and > associated desktop software I bought would run under Linux. Any thoughts are > appreciated. > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 8, 2002