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Re: [Wlug] printer still sick

by Frank Sweetser

On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 03:28:40PM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I updated a lot of stuff, including anything that had to do with printing, > and I still can't print. > > I'm wondering if the virus scanner I put on the PC could be the problem -- > I've disabled it (as much as I can) but I'm suspicious. > > This looks bad... > > > bcurran_newguy> cat .login | smbclient '//BERTHA/CANON' -I 192.168.1.11 -N > -c 'print -' > added interface ip=192.168.1.12 bcast=192.168.1.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 > session request to BERTHA failed (Called name not present) > session request to *SMBSERVER failed (Called name not present) Aha - smbclient is unable to find a machine identifying itself with a windows name of BERTHA. This virus scanner you mention may very well be the culprit - a number of them also include some level of firewall functionality which may be interfering. Can you browse 192.168.1.11 from any other machines on your network? -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 16 Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | I have a great diet. You're allowed to eat anything you want, but you must eat it with naked fat people. --Ed Bluestone

Feb. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] HELP!! printer woes

by Tom Guilderson

> > And as for printing - it's kind of a bad example. They revamped the printing > system because it included suport for a *whole* lot more printers. And > while yeah, there were some issues with it (mostly related to specific printer > drivers, IIRC) they are updates out there for them. > I did notice that the number of printers supported appeared to be significantly greater. I also liked the newer set up utilities etc. - I thought they were definitely better and I think that long term it is the right direction - maybe they should have released both the old and new - giving the user the option to try the latest or use a known stable version. That way they can get the latest version out there for those that want and need it, and also provide a known stable version for those that do not have the time "try" a new version, but just need to get stuff done. Especially for what is to many people a core utility such as printing.

Feb. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] HELP!! printer woes

by Tom Guilderson

If I remember correctly - RedHat switched from Aladdin ghostscript to GNU ghostscript from 7.1 to 7.2. When I gave 7.2 a test drive I could not get it to print postscript to an HP printer. This was several months ago. I ended up uninstalling all the 7.2 printing utilities and installing the utilities from 6.2 - and everything worked. It's a solution that saved me a lot of time. Rip out ghostscript, lpd, the print filters, and set up utilities and put the old RPMS's that worked you earlier for a quick solution. Then when you have some time - you can try to get the latest version working after you have gotten your real work done. That is why I have become wary of RedHat lately - in their desire to ship the latest and greatest and keep up with Suse and Mandrake etal in the distro wars - sometimes things are not ready for production environments - if it were a .0 release - maybe.... but not in the third iteration! Good Luck! > > > My printer setup has gone south as a result of the upgrade from 7.1 to > > > 7.2 at the install fest. I need help because I have real work to do > > > and no time... > > > > Generic canned answer - have you applied all updates? There have been > > quite a few updates that went by for printing in particular. > >

Feb. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] HELP!! printer woes

by Frank Sweetser

On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 01:31:07PM -0500, Tom Guilderson wrote: > That is why I have become wary of RedHat lately - in their desire to ship the > latest and greatest and keep up with Suse and Mandrake etal in the distro > wars - sometimes things are not ready for production environments - if it > were a .0 release - maybe.... but not in the third iteration! Speaking in defence of RedHat - I can't say anything specific as I'm a beta tester and under NDA, but RedHat has refused to update packages to newer versions if they decide those newer versions are sufficiently stable yet. And as for printing - it's kind of a bad example. They revamped the printing system because it included suport for a *whole* lot more printers. And while yeah, there were some issues with it (mostly related to specific printer drivers, IIRC) they are updates out there for them. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 16 Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | In school, every period ends with a bell. Every sentence ends with a period. Every crime ends with a sentence. -- Stephen Wright

Feb. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] HELP!! printer woes

by Bill Mills-Curran

Frank, Good suggestion. I'll try that and (after I take my son shopping for a friend's birthday present) get back to the list. Pollyana that I am, I was not expect bugs from something as basic as printing. Sigh. No time. Thanks, Bill On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Frank Sweetser wrote: > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 11:37:01 -0500 > From: Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] HELP!! printer woes > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 11:47:08AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > HELP HELP HELP > > > > My printer setup has gone south as a result of the upgrade from 7.1 to > > 7.2 at the install fest. I need help because I have real work to do > > and no time... > > Generic canned answer - have you applied all updates? There have been > quite a few updates that went by for printing in particular. > > -- > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 16 > Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | > In school, every period ends with a bell. Every sentence ends with a > period. Every crime ends with a sentence. -- Stephen Wright > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 23, 2002

HELP!! printer woes

by Bill Mills-Curran

HELP HELP HELP My printer setup has gone south as a result of the upgrade from 7.1 to 7.2 at the install fest. I need help because I have real work to do and no time... Lot of stuff below. TIA, Bill Mills-Curran Here's the current (7.2) printcap. # /etc/printcap # # DO NOT EDIT! MANUAL CHANGES WILL BE LOST! # This file is autogenerated by printconf-backend during lpd init. # # Hand edited changes can be put in /etc/printcap.local, and will be included. bertha:\ :sh:\ :ml=0:\ :mx=0:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/bertha:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/bertha/bertha.acct:\ :lp=|/usr/share/printconf/util/smbprint:\ :lpd_bounce=true:\ :if=/usr/share/printconf/util/mf_wrapper: ############################################################################### ## Everything below here is included verbatim from /etc/printcap.local ## ############################################################################### # printcap.local # # This file is included by printconf's generated printcap, # and can be used to specify custom hand edited printers. Here's the diff from /etc/printcap... [root@newguy /etc]# diff printcap.71 printcap.72 13c13,14 < :lp=|/usr/share/printconf/smbprint:\ --- > :af=/var/spool/lpd/bertha/bertha.acct:\ > :lp=|/usr/share/printconf/util/smbprint:\ 15c16 < :if=/usr/share/printconf/mf_wrapper: --- > :if=/usr/share/printconf/util/mf_wrapper: When I try to print a text file, here's what I get in /var/spool/lpd/bertha/status.bertha.. **************** IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter finished at 2002-02-23-11:41:47.300 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4569 printing finished at 2002-02-23-11:41:47.300 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4569 LP filter msg - 'cat: write error: Broken pipe' at 2002-02-23-11:41:47.301 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4569 waiting for printer filter to exit at 2002-02-23-11:41:47.301 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4569 accounting at end at 2002-02-23-11:41:47.301 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4569 finished 'cfA543newguy.mills.curran', status 'JFAIL' at 2002-02-23-11:41:47.301 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4569 subserver pid 4569 exit status 'JFAIL' at 2002-02-23-11:41:47.302 ## A=<NULL> number=0 process=4544 job 'cfA543newguy.mills.curran' attempt 2, trying 3 times at 2002-02-23-11:41:47.303 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4544 waiting for subserver to exit at 2002-02-23-11:41:47.307 ## A=<NULL> number=0 process=4544 attempt 3, sleeping 20 before retry at 2002-02-23-11:41:47.310 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 subserver pid 4594 starting at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.319 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 accounting at start at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.320 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 opening device '|/usr/share/printconf/util/smbprint' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.320 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 printing job 'cfA543newguy.mills.curran' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.321 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 processing 'dfA543newguy.mills.curran', size 401, format 'f', IF filter 'mf_wrapper' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.322 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '--mfomatic -d bjc600-89152.foo' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.425 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '--mfomatic' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.430 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '-d' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.430 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'bjc600-89152.foo' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.431 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '-d bjc600-89152.foo' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.432 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'Case 3' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.433 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.434 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '1' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.434 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'mfomatic backend version $Revision running...' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.526 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '/usr/share/printconf/util/printconf_mfomatic.pl: called with arguments: '-d','bjc600-89152.foo'' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.526 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '/usr/share/printconf/util/printconf_mfomatic.pl: options: ''' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.540 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '/usr/share/printconf/util/printconf_mfomatic.pl: printer def file bjc600-89152.foo' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.541 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'prepending: <</PageSize[612 792]/ImagingBBox null>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.574 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'prepending: ' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.575 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'prepending: <</MediaType(PlainPaper)>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.575 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'prepending: <</MediaWeight 80>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.575 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'prepending: <</PrintQuality(Normal)>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.576 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'prepending: <</BitsPerPixel 24>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.576 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'prepending: ' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.576 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'prepending: <</ProcessColorModel /DeviceCMYK>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.577 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'prepending: <</PrintColors 15>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.577 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'prepending: <</HWResolution[360 360]>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.577 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '/usr/share/printconf/util/printconf_mfomatic.pl: running: gs -q -dBATCH -dSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=bjc600 -sOutputFile=- -' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.578 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '/usr/share/printconf/util/printconf_mfomatic.pl: postscript job line1=>%!PS-Adobe-2.0' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.579 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '<' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.579 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '/usr/share/printconf/util/printconf_mfomatic.pl: prepended:' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.581 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'gs PID pid2=4616' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.582 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '<</PageSize[612 792]/ImagingBBox null>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.582 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.582 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '<</MediaType(PlainPaper)>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.583 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '<</MediaWeight 80>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.583 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '<</PrintQuality(Normal)>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.583 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '<</BitsPerPixel 24>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.583 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.583 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '<</ProcessColorModel /DeviceCMYK>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.583 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '<</PrintColors 15>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.584 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - '<</HWResolution[360 360]>>setpagedevice' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.584 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'closing *main::KID3' at 2002-02-23-11:42:07.586 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'closed *main::KID3' at 2002-02-23-11:42:08.287 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter msg - 'error closing *main::STDOUT at /usr/share/printconf/util/printconf_mfomatic.pl line 563, <KID4_IN> line 54.' at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.111 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 IF filter 'mf_wrapper' filter finished at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.112 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 printing finished at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.112 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 LP filter msg - 'cat: write error: Broken pipe' at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.112 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 waiting for printer filter to exit at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.112 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 accounting at end at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.112 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 finished 'cfA543newguy.mills.curran', status 'JFAIL' at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.113 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4594 subserver pid 4594 exit status 'JFAIL' at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.114 ## A=<NULL> number=0 process=4544 job 'cfA543newguy.mills.curran', attempt 3, allowed 3 at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.115 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4544 send_failure_action 'JREMOVE' at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.115 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4544 job 'cfA543newguy.mills.curran', removing job - status JREMOVE at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.115 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4544 removing job 'cfA543newguy.mills.curran' - JREMOVE at 2002-02-23-11:42:11.116 ## A=<NULL> number=543 process=4544

Feb. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] HELP!! printer woes

by Frank Sweetser

On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 11:47:08AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > HELP HELP HELP > > My printer setup has gone south as a result of the upgrade from 7.1 to > 7.2 at the install fest. I need help because I have real work to do > and no time... Generic canned answer - have you applied all updates? There have been quite a few updates that went by for printing in particular. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 16 Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | In school, every period ends with a bell. Every sentence ends with a period. Every crime ends with a sentence. -- Stephen Wright

Feb. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Searching for motherboards (was trading PIII)

by Gary J. Hanley

What! You're were running Intel? Don't you know you should be running AMD for everything. :-) -- Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clint Moyer" <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:40 AM Subject: RE: [Wlug] Searching for motherboards (was trading PIII) > I have an Abit BX6r2 that I no longer use. I was running a Celeron 566 > (nominally 66Mhz FSB) at a 100Mhz. A P3 850 uses the same multiplier, so it > will run on this board. > > It's also a great overclocking board. You won't get that with an Intel. > > I can bring it to the next meeting and you can test drive it first. If > you're interested, I'll let it go cheap. > > Clint Moyer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:40 AM > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Searching for motherboards (was trading PIII) > > > > I'm broadening the search a bit, and was wondering if anyone can recommend > some local hardware shops... > > By way of repeating my situation, and giving a bit more detail, I have a > SECC2 (a.k.a. slot 1) PIII 850 processor that won't run on my motherboard > (an Intel SE440BX-2 Slot 1 type) because of motherboard rev issues. I am > offering a swap for a SECC2 PIII running at 550 or 600. > > I am also now looking to see if anyone knows of a local source for a > motherboard capable of running a Slot 1 PIIIs at 850. This is older > technology (Intel no longer make Slot 1), so I need to see what I can find > that is already in the distribution channel. > > I really like Intel boards, so Intel would be my first choice. Anyone know > of a local source, Intel or otherwise? > > Thanks! > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 23, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Searching for motherboards (was trading PIII)

by Clint Moyer

I have an Abit BX6r2 that I no longer use. I was running a Celeron 566 (nominally 66Mhz FSB) at a 100Mhz. A P3 850 uses the same multiplier, so it will run on this board. It's also a great overclocking board. You won't get that with an Intel. I can bring it to the next meeting and you can test drive it first. If you're interested, I'll let it go cheap. Clint Moyer -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:40 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Searching for motherboards (was trading PIII) I'm broadening the search a bit, and was wondering if anyone can recommend some local hardware shops... By way of repeating my situation, and giving a bit more detail, I have a SECC2 (a.k.a. slot 1) PIII 850 processor that won't run on my motherboard (an Intel SE440BX-2 Slot 1 type) because of motherboard rev issues. I am offering a swap for a SECC2 PIII running at 550 or 600. I am also now looking to see if anyone knows of a local source for a motherboard capable of running a Slot 1 PIIIs at 850. This is older technology (Intel no longer make Slot 1), so I need to see what I can find that is already in the distribution channel. I really like Intel boards, so Intel would be my first choice. Anyone know of a local source, Intel or otherwise? Thanks! Steve _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Searching for motherboards (was trading PIII)

by Stephen C. Daukas

At 08:49 AM 2/22/2002, Luke wrote: >Have you looked on ebay? Not yet. I was hoping to find a local source - I prefer to go local first, if I can. I'm sure I can buy one from the many distributors on the Web - even Intel said the product is still available, they just don't make it anymore... Steve

Feb. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Searching for motherboards (was trading PIII)

by luke macneil

Feb. 22, 2002

Searching for motherboards (was trading PIII)

by Stephen C. Daukas

I'm broadening the search a bit, and was wondering if anyone can recommend some local hardware shops... By way of repeating my situation, and giving a bit more detail, I have a SECC2 (a.k.a. slot 1) PIII 850 processor that won't run on my motherboard (an Intel SE440BX-2 Slot 1 type) because of motherboard rev issues. I am offering a swap for a SECC2 PIII running at 550 or 600. I am also now looking to see if anyone knows of a local source for a motherboard capable of running a Slot 1 PIIIs at 850. This is older technology (Intel no longer make Slot 1), so I need to see what I can find that is already in the distribution channel. I really like Intel boards, so Intel would be my first choice. Anyone know of a local source, Intel or otherwise? Thanks! Steve

Feb. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Xfer mail from Outlook to...

by donald vitkus

take a look a the import and export option or copy to Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Anyone out there know how to get email out of Outlook/Exchange and > into something else? > > I use outlook at work, and also at home when doing stuff for work, but > want to get all that stuff into a flat file similar to what UNIX uses > (used?), which is also similar to what Eudora uses. In other words, I > want to get away from Outlook/exchange all together and get into a > format that is easily manipulated by scripts or easily imported into > other email applications. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > Regards, > Steve

Feb. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Sorry ....

by Josh Huber

Malcolm Beaulieu <pctech(a)ece.wpi.edu> writes: > That wasn't intended for the list. Ah, Reply-To munging strikes again! -- Josh Huber

Feb. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter & servers?

by John Stoffel

Bill> Does anyone have any experience with Charter cable checking up Bill> on services? I have a couple of ssh holes in my firewall, which Bill> has not caused any trouble. Now, I'm considering hosting a very Bill> low bandwidth web site, but I'm concerned about Charter doing Bill> some port scanning and deciding that I'm doing something wrong. I don't think they'll give you too much grief, they haven't said a word to me about the SSH holes I have in my firewall as well. And since so many people on there are using PCs exposed to the outside world, how can they tell if you're providing a service, or have just been totally hacked and providing a web page for nefarious purposes. Bill> More detail... I'm involved with planning a summer camp for the Bill> Boy Scouts, and I think that bugzilla would be a great way to Bill> help track the myriad of tasks with the multiple volunteers. Bill> I'd probably set it up for SSL only. As an alternative, I could Bill> just set the few users up with ssh access & teach them how to Bill> set up port forwarding, but some of these guys have only MS Bill> experience. (Does the windows ssh support port forwarding?) I don't think they'll give a hoot on that. John

Feb. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Anyone interested in trading PIII CPU's?

by John Stoffel

Tim> That seems kind of odd. I would think you'd be able to run the Tim> 850 underclocked to 600 without any problems. The PIII chips are fixed clocks, you can't change the multiplier on them (like you could on the celerons). At least that's what I remember. As for a trade, I've got a suspect motherboard with a pair of PIII 450s (or so, I can't remember right now) that I'd be willing to sell/trade. I think the only thing I sorta maybe looking for is a really good sound card to use with Linux. My DELL Precision 610MT (dual PIII Xeon 550) has a crappy builtin sound card (which I can't get to work with ALSA) and I'm not happy with the Avance ALS4000 card I have either. I'll try to make the next thursday night meeting and bring stuff for trade/sell. John

Feb. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Anyone interested in trading PIII CPU's?

by Tim Keller

That seems kind of odd. I would think you'd be able to run the 850 underclocked to 600 without any problems. Tim. On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 16:46, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > So here is the sad and embarrassing story... > > It began at Christmastime when my father-in-law decided to give me two CPU > upgrades and a bunch of memory. To make a very long and sad story shorter, > the PIII 850 MHz CPU I got is not compatible with my motherboard (an Intel > SE2, specifically 720-series). So, I have a PIII 850 I can't use and was > wondering if anyone would like to swap a PIII 550 or 600 MHz for the PIII > 850. Yes, you read correctly, I am willing to trade down! > > If anyone is interested in the details, the following URL will give you all > you want to > know: http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/se2/se2_proc.htm. You > will note the listing of motherboard revisions in the third column of the > chart. You will also note that the 600 MHz PIII is the fastest chip my > board can support, it not being a 754-series board. > > Thanks, > Steve > > P.S., don't let Doug know about this... ;-) > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 21, 2002

Sorry ....

by Malcolm Beaulieu

That wasn't intended for the list. -Malcolm Malcolm Beaulieu wrote: > > If the pinout is the same, why not just run the 850 at 600? Then you > won't have to trade chips. You can always run slower, just not > faster. Good luck! > > -Malcolm > > Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > >> So here is the sad and embarrassing story... >> >> It began at Christmastime when my father-in-law decided to give me >> two CPU upgrades and a bunch of memory. To make a very long and sad >> story shorter, the PIII 850 MHz CPU I got is not compatible with my >> motherboard (an Intel SE2, specifically 720-series). So, I have a >> PIII 850 I can't use and was wondering if anyone would like to swap a >> PIII 550 or 600 MHz for the PIII 850. Yes, you read correctly, I am >> willing to trade down! >> >> If anyone is interested in the details, the following URL will give >> you all you want to know: >> http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/se2/se2_proc.htm. You >> will note the listing of motherboard revisions in the third column of >> the chart. You will also note that the 600 MHz PIII is the fastest >> chip my board can support, it not being a 754-series board. >> >> Thanks, >> Steve >> >> P.S., don't let Doug know about this... ;-) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Anyone interested in trading PIII CPU's?

by Malcolm Beaulieu

If the pinout is the same, why not just run the 850 at 600? Then you won't have to trade chips. You can always run slower, just not faster. Good luck! -Malcolm Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > So here is the sad and embarrassing story... > > It began at Christmastime when my father-in-law decided to give me two > CPU upgrades and a bunch of memory. To make a very long and sad story > shorter, the PIII 850 MHz CPU I got is not compatible with my > motherboard (an Intel SE2, specifically 720-series). So, I have a > PIII 850 I can't use and was wondering if anyone would like to swap a > PIII 550 or 600 MHz for the PIII 850. Yes, you read correctly, I am > willing to trade down! > > If anyone is interested in the details, the following URL will give > you all you want to know: > http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/se2/se2_proc.htm. You will > note the listing of motherboard revisions in the third column of the > chart. You will also note that the 600 MHz PIII is the fastest chip > my board can support, it not being a 754-series board. > > Thanks, > Steve > > P.S., don't let Doug know about this... ;-) > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Feb. 21, 2002

Charter & servers?

by Bill Mills-Curran

Does anyone have any experience with Charter cable checking up on services? I have a couple of ssh holes in my firewall, which has not caused any trouble. Now, I'm considering hosting a very low bandwidth web site, but I'm concerned about Charter doing some port scanning and deciding that I'm doing something wrong. More detail... I'm involved with planning a summer camp for the Boy Scouts, and I think that bugzilla would be a great way to help track the myriad of tasks with the multiple volunteers. I'd probably set it up for SSL only. As an alternative, I could just set the few users up with ssh access & teach them how to set up port forwarding, but some of these guys have only MS experience. (Does the windows ssh support port forwarding?) Opinions? TIA, Bill

Feb. 20, 2002

Anyone interested in trading PIII CPU's?

by Stephen C. Daukas

So here is the sad and embarrassing story... It began at Christmastime when my father-in-law decided to give me two CPU upgrades and a bunch of memory. To make a very long and sad story shorter, the PIII 850 MHz CPU I got is not compatible with my motherboard (an Intel SE2, specifically 720-series). So, I have a PIII 850 I can't use and was wondering if anyone would like to swap a PIII 550 or 600 MHz for the PIII 850. Yes, you read correctly, I am willing to trade down! If anyone is interested in the details, the following URL will give you all you want to know: http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/se2/se2_proc.htm. You will note the listing of motherboard revisions in the third column of the chart. You will also note that the 600 MHz PIII is the fastest chip my board can support, it not being a 754-series board. Thanks, Steve P.S., don't let Doug know about this... ;-)

Feb. 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] (off topic) high speed internet access in shrewsbury

by Stephen C. Daukas

At 12:10 AM 2/19/2002, Baris wrote: [...] >I am thinking of switching my local phone line provider, perhaps another >company may provide DSL on my telephone line? Am I correct? Or if >verizon cannot do it, none of them can do it? Your only choice (so far as I know) for local phone calling is Verizon. The Town of Shrewsbury has plans to offer local calling (they currently offer long distance), but it is not yet available. DSL is separate from who your local phone service provider may happen to be... >Speaking about the cable choice, 'townisp' of Shrewsbury charges $50 for >a month of access with a speed limit of 25-30 KB/sec and a setup charge >of $99. and also a download limit of 2GB a month which is a real >drawback if you like to test new distributions like myself. I do not >think that their offer is attractive, am I wrong? I have Shrewsbury Cable. I opted for the business level package (500K Symmetric) because I wanted static IP and do run some servers... Overall, they have done a great job! No outages once they got rid of their initial subcontractor. There have only been two outages I can remember in well over a year, and they were planned. I received email a couple of weeks prior to the outage and the service is back up when they predicted. By the way, if you get CATV from the Town, they give you a $10 discount on the Internet connectivity (or something like that). >Anyways..., being new in the US I need recommendations on which way to >go for high speed internet access. I hope there are some people on this >list living in Shrewsbury and do have high speed internet access despite >Verizon Company. :) XO Communications used to offer DSL, but the CLEC they used went under without notice and left thousands without service. Fortunately, I had moved to Shrewsbury Cable just a few weeks prior to this event and was spared the loss of connectivity. You can always check dslreports.com to see what is available for your phone number... >Thank you very much, >baris >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 20, 2002

RE: [Wlug] (off topic) high speed internet access in shrewsbury

by Mike

Verizon is the ILEC (Incumbent local exchange carrier) for this area and I think that there can only be one ILEC. The other companies are the CLECs (Competitive local exchange carrier). Personally I do not know about any CLECs for "local" phone service in this area but I have never sought them out ether. Nationwide there have been a few start-up CLECs for local service after the deregulation of the telecommunications industry but only a few of them survived (same with the dsl providers). They all faced the same problem of needing to use the ILEC's premises and wires. Although the deregulation process required the ILECs to allow this it didn't stop them from making it difficult for the new CLECs often times pushing court cases for such a time that the start-up went out of business before it could actually start up. I guess the big boys don't like the competition! > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > Behalf Of Charles R. Anderson > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:25 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] (off topic) high speed internet access in shrewsbury > --cut-- > > madcateast> > I am thinking of switching my local phone line > provider, perhaps another > madcateast> > company may provide DSL on my telephone line? Am I > correct? Or if > madcateast> > verizon cannot do it, none of them can do it? > > Can you do this? Most locations only have one ILEC (Verizon in > our case) which > owns all the copper loops. > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] (off topic) high speed internet access in shrewsbury

by Charles R. Anderson

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 03:09:59PM -0500, Mike wrote: madcateast> If Verizon doesn't offer DSL, I don't think anybody else can (they use madcateast> Verizon premises and equipment). Not true. Verizon always supplies the local loop, but they might not have the right equipment in a particular CO to provide DSL (a DSLAM). A CLEC (like Covad) might have the equipment in that CO. I know of at least one location where Verizon DSL wasn't available, but Speakeasy DSL was. madcateast> > I am thinking of switching my local phone line provider, perhaps another madcateast> > company may provide DSL on my telephone line? Am I correct? Or if madcateast> > verizon cannot do it, none of them can do it? Can you do this? Most locations only have one ILEC (Verizon in our case) which owns all the copper loops. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Feb. 19, 2002

RE: [Wlug] (off topic) high speed internet access in shrewsbury

by Mike

If Verizon doesn't offer DSL, I don't think anybody else can (they use Verizon premises and equipment). On the other hand I do live in Shrewsbury and over all like the service very much. If you have cable service the cost with a modem was $45 for a 100k up load and 512k (64KB) down load limit. I feel that in practice the net doesn't offer much more speed than that most of the time unless the conditions are perfect and it is a large down load. Surfing pages, email, etc won't see a faster speed than that. So I don't feel that the limitation is all that significant. (other people with known faster potential connections my rebut this to add to my experience!). As far as the 2 gig limit I am willing to bet that I exceed this but I have never heard from them about it. Granted I do follow the rules about not running services on the system but I do have 5 systems behind a firewall along with a wireless network for my notebook. As far as the service it is rarely down. A few planned outages (early in the AM) for upgrades and maintenance is about it. Everything does work well. I would take the service over a modem any day and have no problems compared to people that I know with Verizon DSL (even SNET for that matter in CT which is also a PPPOE connection). Mike LaPointe Full time truck driver, Part time wanna-be sysadmin. > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > Behalf Of Baris Hasdemir > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:10 AM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] (off topic) high speed internet access in shrewsbury > > > Hi, > > I apologize for my slightly off topic question. But I need help on this > subject. > > I want to have high speed internet access that I can use with linux > without any problems. I mean I don't want to use PPPoE, if possible. I > live in Shrewsbury. Unfortunately verizon can not afford 'dsl'izing our > telephone line. (strange that my next door qualifies for DSL while we > can not) > > I am thinking of switching my local phone line provider, perhaps another > company may provide DSL on my telephone line? Am I correct? Or if > verizon cannot do it, none of them can do it? > > Speaking about the cable choice, 'townisp' of Shrewsbury charges $50 for > a month of access with a speed limit of 25-30 KB/sec and a setup charge > of $99. and also a download limit of 2GB a month which is a real > drawback if you like to test new distributions like myself. I do not > think that their offer is attractive, am I wrong? > > Anyways..., being new in the US I need recommendations on which way to > go for high speed internet access. I hope there are some people on this > list living in Shrewsbury and do have high speed internet access despite > Verizon Company. :) > > Thank you very much, > baris > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 19, 2002