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I'm possessed -- sound stuff

by Bill Mills-Curran

This is very weird... My linux box has just started making sounds -- stuff like little sound card samples. It has done about 6 sounds in the past 30 minutes. The only action I have taken since logging in this morning is to look at some web pages. I've "finger-ed" and "last-ed", but there is no evidence of co-workers getting cute with me. I did see one thing in the system log: Mar 13 08:13:21 pent584 kernel: ad1816: Analog Devices AD1816A detected Mar 13 08:13:21 pent584 kernel: ad1816: ISAPnP reports 'Analog Devices AD1816A' at i/o 0x500, irq 5, dma 1, 3 Mar 13 08:13:21 pent584 kernel: ad1816: AD1816 sounddriver Copyright (C) 1998 by Thorsten Knabe Mar 13 08:13:21 pent584 kernel: ad1816: io=0x500, irq=5, dma=1, dma2=3, clockfre q=33000, options=0 isadmabug=0 Mar 13 08:13:21 pent584 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0- 3 Mar 13 08:38:25 pent584 kernel: ad1816: Analog Devices AD1816A detected Mar 13 08:38:25 pent584 kernel: ad1816: ISAPnP reports 'Analog Devices AD1816A' at i/o 0x500, irq 5, dma 1, 3 Mar 13 08:38:25 pent584 kernel: ad1816: AD1816 sounddriver Copyright (C) 1998 by Thorsten Knabe Mar 13 08:38:25 pent584 kernel: ad1816: io=0x500, irq=5, dma=1, dma2=3, clockfre q=33000, options=0 isadmabug=0 Mar 13 08:38:25 pent584 modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0- 3 These messages appear only one other time in my system logs. Oh, one other thing... I did mount an NT share on my box yesterday. (I don't suspect this, but might as well tell everything.) Any ideas? Thanks, Bill

March 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] RE: [WPILA-Discuss] Gentoo Linux Distro

by Aaron Haviland

Doug Geiger said: > Wow flame bait ;) > Since you asked for it, random comments/flames inline. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: discuss-admin(a)wpila.org [mailto:discuss-admin@wpila.org]On Behalf > > Of Chuck Haines > > > > I figured since I hadn't seen this on the list I'd post it. I recently > > (and by recent I mean 2 - 3 months) re-installed Linux on my computer. I > > was a very satisfied Slack8 user but I wanted something more. For one, I > > wanted a package manager. So I thought I might dabble into Debian (seeing > > how that is supposedly the premiere distro). But one problem existed, > > Debian still used binaries. I wanted everything compiled from source so > > it was optimized for my system (yes, I am a geek and very proud of it). > > apt-get source <package> > And I believe you can do similar w/SRPMS. Though I'll give that if I was > going to go through all the trouble of compiling everything from source, > personally I'd just grab .tar.gz of it all. Hell why bother with a distro? > apt-get source <package> && cd <package>-* && dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc ... but iirc, it's not really optimised. to do that, you need to rebuild certain packages without certain tweaks that debian throws in. something about enabling certain i586 stuff, but still making them work on i386? (which is why all the debs say i386 instead of iX86) (research...research...research....) ah, here: http://ibiblio.org/gferg/ldp/giles/repository/repository-7.html > > So I begin my install of Gentoo. Gentoo is still in late beta stages (the > > 1.0 release is scheduled for mid to late this month). The install was a > > little rocky, but unlike most linux distro's you can find the authors on > > their irc channel on opennetworks and they are a tremendous help. I have > > yet to have a problem that someone in that channel wasn't able to fix. > > irc.debian.org - I use it and enjoy it ;). > which is just an alias for OPN, last i checked :) -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net http://debian.parsed.net ICQ: 43079202

March 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Gentoo Linux Distro

by Brian J. Conway

> 'Course the REAL geeks just rewrite their own POSIX-like kernel from > scratch and start their own distro based on it ;P. No, the real geeks fork an existing project, add "Open" to the name, and start badmouthing the original project at the top of their lungs. ;-) -b

March 12, 2002

RE: [WPILA-Discuss] Gentoo Linux Distro

by Doug Geiger

Wow flame bait ;) Since you asked for it, random comments/flames inline. -- Doug Geiger runexe(a)counter.clue4all.net http://counter.clue4all.net/~runexe/ If you're crossing the nation in a covered wagon, it's better to have four strong oxen than 100 chickens. Chickens are OK but we can't make them work together yet. -- Ross Bott, Pyramid U.S., on multiprocessors at AUUGM '89. > -----Original Message----- > From: discuss-admin(a)wpila.org [mailto:discuss-admin@wpila.org]On Behalf > Of Chuck Haines > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:39 PM > To: discuss(a)wpila.org; wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [WPILA-Discuss] Gentoo Linux Distro > > > I figured since I hadn't seen this on the list I'd post it. I recently > (and by recent I mean 2 - 3 months) re-installed Linux on my computer. I > was a very satisfied Slack8 user but I wanted something more. For one, I > wanted a package manager. So I thought I might dabble into Debian (seeing > how that is supposedly the premiere distro). But one problem existed, > Debian still used binaries. I wanted everything compiled from source so > it was optimized for my system (yes, I am a geek and very proud of it). apt-get source <package> And I believe you can do similar w/SRPMS. Though I'll give that if I was going to go through all the trouble of compiling everything from source, personally I'd just grab .tar.gz of it all. Hell why bother with a distro? > So I went searching for my distro. I searched and searched and just when > I thought I wasn't going to find it, I found a distro called Sorcerer > linux. WOW, I thought to myself, this does what I wanted. So I > downloaded and installed it. I still hate it to this day. So then I > continued my search and stubbled upon Gentoo linux on Slashdot. After > being disappointed with Sorcerer, I wasn't expecting much, but little to > my knowledge this distro would turn out the be the best distro I've ever > tried (and I've tried close to 100 distro's of both unix and linux > flavor). Damn, 100? How much free time do you have? > So I begin my install of Gentoo. Gentoo is still in late beta stages (the > 1.0 release is scheduled for mid to late this month). The install was a > little rocky, but unlike most linux distro's you can find the authors on > their irc channel on opennetworks and they are a tremendous help. I have > yet to have a problem that someone in that channel wasn't able to fix. irc.debian.org - I use it and enjoy it ;). > Not to mention, some of the authors went here to WPI as they commented > when they saw I was from WPI. This distro has it all. It has an amazing > package management system which is simple to use and VERY powerful. Plus > is compiles everything from source which means that your system is 100% > optimized for your system (and yes it evern recompiles the gcc and stuff > so that it is optimized), although you can now use bninaries optimized > for i586. Not to mention you compile the kernel at install time > so there is no more "stock" kernel business. You can get to > business right away. Also, gentoo will only install what you want, making > this as small or large of a system as you wish. IMHO, this is the best > distro on the "market" today. I have even begun some devlopment for it. Have you tried LinuxFromScratch? I remember talking to you about it... > Just thought I'd share some thoughts on the newest distro of my liking. > If anyone is interested, their website is, http://www.gentoo.org. They > can also be found on irc at us.openprojects.net, channel #gentoo. I'm in > the channel a lot so look for termleech or termr00t. 'Course the REAL geeks just rewrite their own POSIX-like kernel from scratch and start their own distro based on it ;P. > Thoughts, comments, and flames are welcome. > > ---------------------- > | Chuck Haines | > | GDC Webmaster | > | chaines(a)wpi.edu | > | AOL IM: CyberGrex | > ---------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss(a)wpila.org > http://wpila.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >

March 12, 2002

Re: shutting down SuSE 7.3 via KDE

by doug waud

Hi Pierce Barnard wrote > Hello Andy, the error occurs when I log out of KDE. Then at the Linux > desktop login window, I select shutdown, I have the impression KDE can do a lot of funny things. I suggest you try shutting down by CTRL/ALT/F! to a command line and then typing shutdown -r now (or -h if that is your objective) I suspect this will work ok. If it does, then you will be confirming my suspicions and you can focus on blaming KDE and not Linux :-) doug

March 12, 2002

Gentoo Linux Distro

by Chuck Haines

I figured since I hadn't seen this on the list I'd post it. I recently (and by recent I mean 2 - 3 months) re-installed Linux on my computer. I was a very satisfied Slack8 user but I wanted something more. For one, I wanted a package manager. So I thought I might dabble into Debian (seeing how that is supposedly the premiere distro). But one problem existed, Debian still used binaries. I wanted everything compiled from source so it was optimized for my system (yes, I am a geek and very proud of it). So I went searching for my distro. I searched and searched and just when I thought I wasn't going to find it, I found a distro called Sorcerer linux. WOW, I thought to myself, this does what I wanted. So I downloaded and installed it. I still hate it to this day. So then I continued my search and stubbled upon Gentoo linux on Slashdot. After being disappointed with Sorcerer, I wasn't expecting much, but little to my knowledge this distro would turn out the be the best distro I've ever tried (and I've tried close to 100 distro's of both unix and linux flavor). So I begin my install of Gentoo. Gentoo is still in late beta stages (the 1.0 release is scheduled for mid to late this month). The install was a little rocky, but unlike most linux distro's you can find the authors on their irc channel on opennetworks and they are a tremendous help. I have yet to have a problem that someone in that channel wasn't able to fix. Not to mention, some of the authors went here to WPI as they commented when they saw I was from WPI. This distro has it all. It has an amazing package management system which is simple to use and VERY powerful. Plus is compiles everything from source which means that your system is 100% optimized for your system (and yes it evern recompiles the gcc and stuff so that it is optimized), although you can now use bninaries optimized for i586. Not to mention you compile the kernel at install time so there is no more "stock" kernel business. You can get to business right away. Also, gentoo will only install what you want, making this as small or large of a system as you wish. IMHO, this is the best distro on the "market" today. I have even begun some devlopment for it. Just thought I'd share some thoughts on the newest distro of my liking. If anyone is interested, their website is, http://www.gentoo.org. They can also be found on irc at us.openprojects.net, channel #gentoo. I'm in the channel a lot so look for termleech or termr00t. Thoughts, comments, and flames are welcome. ---------------------- | Chuck Haines | | GDC Webmaster | | chaines(a)wpi.edu | | AOL IM: CyberGrex | ----------------------

March 12, 2002

Re: Wlug digest, Vol 1 #267 - 4 msgs

by Pierce C. Barnard

At 12:01 PM 3/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Question (Pierce C. Barnard) > 2. Re: Question (Andy Stewart) > 3. Re: Chart generation tools (John Stoffel) > 4. Re: Chart generation tools (Charles R. Anderson) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:09:58 -0500 >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >From: "Pierce C. Barnard" <pcbarnard(a)earthlink.net> >Subject: [Wlug] Question >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Hi, I recently purchased SuSE V7.3 and when I shut it down, it hangs while >shutting down all of the system processes. How can I fix this problem with >the shut down proceedure? > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >charset="iso-8859-1" >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> >Organization: Worcester Linux Users' Group >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Question >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 21:34:17 -0500 >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >On Sunday 10 March 2002 09:09 pm, you wrote: > > Hi, I recently purchased SuSE V7.3 and when I shut it down, it hangs > > while shutting down all of the system processes. How can I fix this > > problem with the shut down proceedure? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >Hi Pierce, > >I am a SuSE user. I would like to help, but I believe that I need more >information in order to give you an accurate answer. > >Exactly which command are you using to shutdown the system? Can you send >along a snippet of the last few lines of output on the terminal before it >hangs? Does it always hang in the same place? With this type of >information, I believe that the problem can be diagnosed. > >See ya later, > >Andy > >-- >Andy Stewart >Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA, USA >http://www.wlug.org Hello Andy, the error occurs when I log out of KDE. Then at the Linux desktop login window, I select shutdown, and then SuSE is shutting down, it hangs at the point where the drive shares are umounted and then inet says that the system will be halted immediately. It is at this point that SuSE will say that runtime level 0 has been reached, that it has stopped completely. At this point, the system is still running and I can not turn it off, except by turning the power off. What do you think is causing this to happen? and I will be at the WLUG meeting on this Wednesday. Thank you.

March 12, 2002

REMINDER: Upcoming WLUG meeting

by Andy Stewart

Hi everybody, This is a friendly reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting to be held on Wednesday, March 13th at 7 PM. Please note: the meeting room is DIFFERENT this month. We will be located in Perreault Hall in Fuller Labs (the same place as the January meeting). Directions can be found on the WLUG website. There is an opening for a speaker at this meeting, so if you have something you'd like to present to the group, bring it along and I'll turn over the floor to you. I received a couple of raffle items from the folks at http://theKompany.com. I will have available a copy of Quanta Gold as well as a copy of Power Plant. You can read more about these software packages at theKompany's website. I was told by a company representative that if we wanted to arrange a group purchase of software that we would receive a discount. Please contact me directly if this is of interest to you. After the meeting, we'll make our monthly pilgrimage to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beers, and more Linux talk. See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

March 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Chart generation tools

by Charles R. Anderson

On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 09:27:09AM -0500, John Stoffel wrote: stoffel> I'm familiar with MRTG (and RRDtool) but since I have more than one stoffel> input data set (i.e. I want to record the size and times of multiple stoffel> different backup groups), they're not quite what I want. Have you looked at Cricket? It also uses RRDtool, but is much more extensible and configurable than MRTG. stoffel> I also need to keep detailed info over time, which MRTG doesn't do, stoffel> since it start averaging data and coalescing it. You could always back up the daily RRDtool databases, and keep a history of them. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

March 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Chart generation tools

by John Stoffel

Mike> If yer looking for something that'll aggregate and age out the Mike> data, and produce daily, weekly, monthly and yearly graphs, Mike> check MRTG I'm familiar with MRTG (and RRDtool) but since I have more than one input data set (i.e. I want to record the size and times of multiple different backup groups), they're not quite what I want. I also need to keep detailed info over time, which MRTG doesn't do, since it start averaging data and coalescing it. But thanks for the hints! John

March 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question

by Andy Stewart

On Sunday 10 March 2002 09:09 pm, you wrote: > Hi, I recently purchased SuSE V7.3 and when I shut it down, it hangs > while shutting down all of the system processes. How can I fix this > problem with the shut down proceedure? > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug Hi Pierce, I am a SuSE user. I would like to help, but I believe that I need more information in order to give you an accurate answer. Exactly which command are you using to shutdown the system? Can you send along a snippet of the last few lines of output on the terminal before it hangs? Does it always hang in the same place? With this type of information, I believe that the problem can be diagnosed. See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

March 11, 2002

Question

by Pierce C. Barnard

Hi, I recently purchased SuSE V7.3 and when I shut it down, it hangs while shutting down all of the system processes. How can I fix this problem with the shut down proceedure?

March 11, 2002

FS: DSL Modem and Stereo Stuff

by Beaty McCloud

Hi, I know that this is not a forsale list, but I am having trouble posting to wpi.forsale from off-campus. If someone on campus could please post the following it would be greatly appreciated. TIA, and sorry for any inconvenience. -Beaty --------------------------- To see the listing, check out: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&u… If there are any questions then let me know. I may be able to deliver to the school depending on my schedule this upcoming week. Thanx!

March 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Chart generation tools

by Mike Peckar

If yer looking for something that'll aggregate and age out the data, and produce daily, weekly, monthly and yearly graphs, check MRTG ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Stoffel" <stoffel(a)lucent.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:29 PM Subject: [Wlug] Chart generation tools Guys, Does anyone have any recommendations for data plotting or charting tools under linux/solaris? I'm aware of gnuplot, xmgr (ACE/gr), grace (ACE/gr descendant) but none of them is really what I want. I'm trying to take a bunch of data from my backups and graph the output nicely. I'd like to have both: - stacked plots (show the totals, with breakdowns by groups). - pie charts for individual days - line charts for trend analysis And of course all of this should be easy to do from the Unix command line and/or control/data files. I currently have a script which uses gnuplot to graph the data, but it's not the nicest. I'm looking into using 'grace', but it's not well documented and it's really pushed more to scientific visualization. I'll try to put what I have up on the web at some point, so you can see what I'm trying to do... but if you've ever used Legato Networker, I've got a tool called 'nss' (http://jfs.ecotarium.org/sources/nss) which generates reports on backups. I'm now trying to take the logged data from that and provide some nice trend analysis graphs as well. Thanks, John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-399-0479 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] itch to scratch...

by Michael Frysinger

heh i encounter the same problem all the time i mount my mp3s via samba and then my windows box reboots. samba freaks the mount and processes get fucked in the ass. here is how i solve it ... drop all packets to your windows machine long enough to kill all the offending processes and umount the drive. iptables -I INPUT 1 -d WINDOWS -j DROP or if thats a prob (like you're ssh-ing from your windows machine :D), add in -p TCP --dport 139 -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> To: <wlug(a)wlug.org> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 09:38 Subject: [Wlug] itch to scratch... > I'd like to figure out a way to "assassinate" processes that get stuck in > the "waiting IO" state when I know there's no way they'll ever come out of > that state. > > I just had to reboot my linux workstation to resolve such an issue. I had > an file system containing mp3's mounted via smbfs. Unknown to me, this > connection had become stale, so when I started up xmms, it hung and > immediately went into the dreaded "waiting IO" state, while holding onto my > sound hardware. I did a df and had that stuck as well, along with the bash > shell I spawned it from. > > I think I'd like to write a "SIGMURDER" signal that would tell the kernel to > just through its tables and forcibly unallocate all the resources a > particular process is holding, close all its handles, etc. > > So before I even contemplate this endeavor, is their away to already do > this? > > Thanks, > Tim. > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Chart generation tools

by Mike Lundy

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 08 March 2002 14:29, you wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for data plotting or charting > tools under linux/solaris? I'm aware of gnuplot, xmgr (ACE/gr), My personal favorite is the perl module GD::Graph- if you know perl, it'll probably do everything you need. you can see a graph i made with it at http://mike.vinge.mine.nu/spamlist.png. - -- To smash a single atom, all mankind was intent. Now any day the atom may return the compliment. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyJTSIACgkQqQ38/GgypQZ7lwCfZ6yJjcIyAMMP+9XZ1TGbvlsV 5/IAni+bY+7YZypb3+Z22FzsGVo9QzFl =8JUA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

March 8, 2002

Chart generation tools

by John Stoffel

Guys, Does anyone have any recommendations for data plotting or charting tools under linux/solaris? I'm aware of gnuplot, xmgr (ACE/gr), grace (ACE/gr descendant) but none of them is really what I want. I'm trying to take a bunch of data from my backups and graph the output nicely. I'd like to have both: - stacked plots (show the totals, with breakdowns by groups). - pie charts for individual days - line charts for trend analysis And of course all of this should be easy to do from the Unix command line and/or control/data files. I currently have a script which uses gnuplot to graph the data, but it's not the nicest. I'm looking into using 'grace', but it's not well documented and it's really pushed more to scientific visualization. I'll try to put what I have up on the web at some point, so you can see what I'm trying to do... but if you've ever used Legato Networker, I've got a tool called 'nss' (http://jfs.ecotarium.org/sources/nss) which generates reports on backups. I'm now trying to take the logged data from that and provide some nice trend analysis graphs as well. Thanks, John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-399-0479

March 8, 2002

RE: [Wlug] itch to scratch...

by Evans, Robert

Potential difficulties with this idea: - There may be insufficient information about state of the process for the kernel to free up some resources. It might require code in drivers to assist. - Locks or mutexes held by the process should not be freed unless the resource the lock is protecting is in a consistent state. This gets very application specific. Robert N. Evans Software Engineer S T R A T U S T E C H N O L O G I E S 111 Powdermill Road, Maynard, MA 01754-3409 U.S.A. * Tel. 978-461-7680 / * Fax. 978-461-3610 robert.evans(a)stratus.com Amateur Radio Call: N1BE -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 9:39 AM To: 'wlug(a)wlug.org' Subject: [Wlug] itch to scratch... I'd like to figure out a way to "assassinate" processes that get stuck in the "waiting IO" state when I know there's no way they'll ever come out of that state. I just had to reboot my linux workstation to resolve such an issue. I had an file system containing mp3's mounted via smbfs. Unknown to me, this connection had become stale, so when I started up xmms, it hung and immediately went into the dreaded "waiting IO" state, while holding onto my sound hardware. I did a df and had that stuck as well, along with the bash shell I spawned it from. I think I'd like to write a "SIGMURDER" signal that would tell the kernel to just through its tables and forcibly unallocate all the resources a particular process is holding, close all its handles, etc. So before I even contemplate this endeavor, is their away to already do this? Thanks, Tim. _______________________________________________

March 8, 2002

itch to scratch...

by Keller, Tim

I'd like to figure out a way to "assassinate" processes that get stuck in the "waiting IO" state when I know there's no way they'll ever come out of that state. I just had to reboot my linux workstation to resolve such an issue. I had an file system containing mp3's mounted via smbfs. Unknown to me, this connection had become stale, so when I started up xmms, it hung and immediately went into the dreaded "waiting IO" state, while holding onto my sound hardware. I did a df and had that stuck as well, along with the bash shell I spawned it from. I think I'd like to write a "SIGMURDER" signal that would tell the kernel to just through its tables and forcibly unallocate all the resources a particular process is holding, close all its handles, etc. So before I even contemplate this endeavor, is their away to already do this? Thanks, Tim.

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] can't connect with ftp, says connection time out

by Peter Gutowski

Bob, You haven't given us much to go on, but here's a shot: I'm assuming that this is the first time you've tried this. If so then you might not have configured inetd or xinetd to start the the ftp service when it detects an incoming ftp connection. My system ( Redhat 7.1 Intel) uses xinetd and the config files are in the directory /etc/xinetd; there's one for each service. Try to identify the file that corresponds to your ftp service. Again mine is named 'wu-ftpd' and it's a short file. Open the file with a text editor and look for a line that says 'disable = yes' and change the yes to a no, or delete the line completely. This done, you'll need to restart xinetd (or inetd). On my system I'd enter the command /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart to accomplish this. Perhaps that'll get you over the hump on this one. But there are other possibilities as well. If this doesn't work, please take a look at your log files, they can provide you (and us!) with valuable clues as to the nature of the problem. It's not uncommon for posters to include short, pertinent portions of a log file for us to see. Another strong possibility is that a packet filter is coming into play and that you incoming ftp request is just being ignored. That's handled by 'ipchains' or 'iptables' and is typically setup at startup time. It that appears to be the case, read the init.d script and see where it's looking for its configuration file, then check *that* file for any special handling of 'ftp' ports 21 and 20. The strongest likelyhood is that both of the above things need to be done. But, be warned about FTP in general: unless you're using it off the internet, historically it's been the source of many breakins and cannot be considered secure by nomal users as login and password are passed in cleartext over the internet. Consider using ssh and scp (components of OpenSSH) instead -- there's client software available for non-linux OSs too. -Peter On 3/7/2002 11:23 PM, babine <babinefamily(a)charter.net> wrote: > >When I try to ftp to my server, i get a connection time out. Why >is it happening? > > Bob

March 8, 2002

can't connect with ftp, says connection time out

by babine

When I try to ftp to my server, i get a connection time out. Why is it happening? Bob

March 8, 2002

FYI: Upcoming speakers at Softpro in Burlington

by Andy Stewart

Several O'Reilly authors--as well as Tim O'Reilly--will be speaking in the near future at Softpro Books in Burlington (details below). If you know of ways we could spread the word about these upcoming events, please let me know at marsee(a)oreilly.com. Books will be discounted during the event, and there will be door prizes. Open Invitation to SIGS and User Groups: Softpro is happy to host your group. They have space to accomodate up to 30 people in Burlington and up to 12 in Marlborough. Reserve a time by writing to events(a)softpro.com. Softpro Events: Tim O'Reilly on Emerging Tech Trends Wednesday, March 13--6:30 PM Tim will talk about emerging tech trends that O'Reilly & Associates is following, including bioinformatics, community wireless, web services, and the evolution of what he's calling "the internet operating system." For more information on Tim O'Reilly see: http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/tim_bio.html Jesse Liberty on ASP v. ASP.NET Wednesday, March 20--6:30 PM The principal difference between ASP.NET and ASP is that the new programming model is more object-oriented and more event-driven. This will be illustrated by extracting records from a database and filling a DataGrid in a web form, coloring some records based on their content, and responding to the ItemDataBound event. Along the way Jesse will also explain how to create code-behind pages for web forms, how to retrieve data from a database and how to populate the DataGrid. Jesse Liberty is the author of "Programming ASP.NET" and "Programming C#" among others. To see more information on Jesse Liberty or the books he has written for O'Reilly, visit: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/catalog/view/au/239?x-t=book.view Erik Ray on Perl and XML Wednesday, April 3--6:30-8:00 PM. Erik Ray is coauthor of the upcoming book "Perl & XML" (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlxml/) XML is a text-based markup language that has taken the programming world by storm. More powerful than HTML yet less demanding than SGML, XML has proven itself to be flexible and resilient. XML is the perfect tool for formatting documents with even the smallest bit of complexity, from Web pages to legal contracts to books. However, XML has also proven itself to be indispensable for organizing and conveying other sorts of data as well, thus its central role in web services like SOAP and XML-RPC. As the Perl programming language was tailor-made for manipulating text, few people have disputed the fact that Perl and XML are perfectly suited for one another. The only question has been what's the best way to do it. Noel Rappin on Jython Wednesday, April 24--6:30-8:00 PM. Noel Rappin is coauthor of "Jython Essentials" (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jythoness/) Jython is an implementation of the Python programming language written in Java, allowing Python programs to integrate seamlessly with any Java code. The secret to Jython's popularity lies in the combination of Java's libraries and tools with Python's rapid development capabilities. "Jython Essentials" provides a solid introduction to the language, numerous examples of Jython/Java interaction, and valuable reference material on modules and libraries of use to Jython programmers. All events to take place at: Softpro Books 112 Mall Road Burlington MA 01803-5300 Phone: (781) 273-2919 http://www.softpro.com/events.html --Marsee Henon %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Marsee Henon O'Reilly & Associates 1005 Gravenstein Highway North Sebastopol, CA 95472 Phone 707-827-7103 (Direct) 707-829-0515, 800-998-9938 Fax 707-829-0104 marsee(a)oreilly.com http://ug.oreilly.com/ http://www.oreilly.com/ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Possible swap meet?

by doug waud

Andy Stewart wrote: > I have no problem with this as long as whatever arrives also leaves. Before this gets out of hand I'd like to raise the question of whether WLUG is really an appropriate locale for wife-swapping. doug

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Possible swap meet?

by Clint Moyer

One man's trash is another's treasure... On Thu, 07 Mar 2002 21:34:59 -0500 doug waud <douglas.waud(a)umassmed.edu> wrote: >Andy Stewart wrote: > >> I have no problem with this as long as whatever arrives >>also leaves. > >Before this gets out of hand I'd like to raise the >question of whether >WLUG is really an appropriate locale for wife-swapping. > >doug >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Possible swap meet?

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 07 March 2002 09:34 pm, you wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: > > I have no problem with this as long as whatever arrives also leaves. > > Before this gets out of hand I'd like to raise the question of whether > WLUG is really an appropriate locale for wife-swapping. > > doug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug I repeat...as long as whatever arrives also leaves. :-) -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

March 8, 2002