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Re: [Wlug] new mandrake

by Brian J. Conway

> i installed the latest mandrake a earlier this week. When i boot the > system into linux i get this grphical screen showing the progress of the > boot. Does anyone know how to get rid of that? I find it to be kind of > annoying, and want my regular console. I think the package you want to remove is bootsplash. I'm pretty sure that's it, as Aurora was left out of 8.2 (thank god). Brian J. Conway bconway(a)wpi.edu "I don't think Microsoft is evil in itself. I just think that they make really crappy operating systems." - Linus Torvalds

March 22, 2002

new mandrake

by Brad Noyes

Hi all, i installed the latest mandrake a earlier this week. When i boot the system into linux i get this grphical screen showing the progress of the boot. Does anyone know how to get rid of that? I find it to be kind of annoying, and want my regular console. Thanks, --brad

March 22, 2002

context menu in mozilla 0.9.9

by Baris Hasdemir

hi, I want to put a URL link to one of the context menus in Mozilla. Do you think it is possible? Do you think I have to deal with the source of the program?(which I don't think I can) Or is there another way to alter the values in the context menus? For example, I will highlight a word on a web page, and when right click on it, mozilla will query dict.org with my highlighted word, on a new browser window. I hope my question is clear. thanks, baris

March 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by doug waud

Hi all "Stephen C. Daukas" wrote: > > Clearly, it is time for WLUG to get into the CLEC business and establish a > co-op DSL for all its members in central Mass! I think it would be a fine > way to spend all that WLUG surplus money. > I thought "What a dumb idea!". The money is not the issue. Think of all the work involved --- interfacing with the phone company, regulatory agencies etc. etc. And then I realized you were volunteering and I felt warm all over! :-) doug

March 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:02:38PM -0500, doug waud wrote: douglas.waud> I thought "What a dumb idea!". The money is not the issue. Think of all douglas.waud> the work involved --- interfacing with the phone company, regulatory douglas.waud> agencies etc. etc. Everyone buy a DSL modem, and we'll all get alarm circuits from the phone company :) (sometimes called banana lines--basically a dry copper pair from one location to another). Who needs regulations anyway? Let's not forget about 802.11b, either. I've been saving up my Pringles cans :) -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

March 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] VMS & CLD's -- a blast from the past

by Scott Venier

http://www.accelr8.com/dcl.html A free and commercial DCL interpreter for linux. I'm nto a big VMS fan, so I don't know who close DCL is to CLD, but it's still more VMS like then bash. Scott On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Many moons ago, I spent my callow youth as a VMS geek and was fairly > capable for a mechanical engineer. I got around the Command Language > Definition (CLD) compiler (I can't remember the name of the compiler) and > learned to appreciate it's flexibility and power. > > UNIX/linux, etc. has nothing (that I've seen) that even comes close. > > The reason I bring this up is that a friend of mine has written a spec for > an ambitious command line interpreter that has a bit of the flavor of the > VMS CLD's. This has led me to wonder if anyone has seen a port of > anything like the VMS CLD language to UNIX/linux. I know that the syntax > would have to be different because the VMS option "/" would interfere with > the *nix directory syntax. > > Anyone have any suggestions? > > And yes, I do remember punch cards, keypunches, paper tape, disk > drives as big as washing machines, etc. > > TIA, > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 20, 2002

VMS & CLD's -- a blast from the past

by Bill Mills-Curran

Many moons ago, I spent my callow youth as a VMS geek and was fairly capable for a mechanical engineer. I got around the Command Language Definition (CLD) compiler (I can't remember the name of the compiler) and learned to appreciate it's flexibility and power. UNIX/linux, etc. has nothing (that I've seen) that even comes close. The reason I bring this up is that a friend of mine has written a spec for an ambitious command line interpreter that has a bit of the flavor of the VMS CLD's. This has led me to wonder if anyone has seen a port of anything like the VMS CLD language to UNIX/linux. I know that the syntax would have to be different because the VMS option "/" would interfere with the *nix directory syntax. Anyone have any suggestions? And yes, I do remember punch cards, keypunches, paper tape, disk drives as big as washing machines, etc. TIA, Bill

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Wesley Allen

Good grief, What a GREAT idea! How on earth could it be implemented? Wes On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:55:04 -0500 "Stephen C. Daukas" <stephen(a)daukas.com> wrote: >At 12:24 PM 3/20/2002, John wrote: >>On Wednesday 20 March 2002 09:58, Doug wrote: >> >>> Obviously :-) , sharing the info with Redmond would >>>*HAVE* to >>> enhance your service experience! > >[...snip...} > >>Now I don't know if Earthlkink supplies the actual >>network for Charter? >>Or something else might envolved? > >Clearly, it is time for WLUG to get into the CLEC >business and establish a co-op DSL for all its members in >central Mass! I think it would be a fine way to spend >all that WLUG surplus money. > >;-) > >Steve > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Chuck Haines

Actually, even if you were joking about this, I think this would be a WONDERFUL idea. I know that when I move off campus I would like to find a good ISP and especially one that supports linux. On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 12:55, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > At 12:24 PM 3/20/2002, John wrote: > >On Wednesday 20 March 2002 09:58, Doug wrote: > > > > > Obviously :-) , sharing the info with Redmond would *HAVE* to > > > enhance your service experience! > > [...snip...} > > >Now I don't know if Earthlkink supplies the actual network for Charter? > >Or something else might envolved? > > Clearly, it is time for WLUG to get into the CLEC business and establish a > co-op DSL for all its members in central Mass! I think it would be a fine > way to spend all that WLUG surplus money. > > ;-) > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- --------------------------------------------- | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | GDC Webmaster | ICQ: 3707881 | | WPI Class of 2005 | MSN: CyberGrex | | chaines(a)wpi.edu | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | ---------------------------------------------

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Brian J. Conway

> Actually, even if you were joking about this, I think this would be a > WONDERFUL idea. I know that when I move off campus I would like to find > a good ISP and especially one that supports linux. Which brings us back once again to everyone's favorite SpeakEasy. Game over. -b

March 20, 2002

Looking for Linux Sublaptop

by desdinova＠soupforare.net

Hi all! I know this is probably an odd question to ask the list, but I was wondering if anyone has a (relatively) small laptop they'd like to sell? I'm primarily interested in the Libretto 'CT's, Mitsu Amitys, and Sony Picturebooks. I'd *love* to find a Thinkpad 235, but considering they were never sold here (well, sold here, repackaged, as the Ricoh Magio), I'm not keeping my hopes up. Any help is appreciated, Thanks, James KB1FJQ AIM: Sailor225 | yahoo: bond225

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Stephen C. Daukas

At 12:24 PM 3/20/2002, John wrote: >On Wednesday 20 March 2002 09:58, Doug wrote: > > > Obviously :-) , sharing the info with Redmond would *HAVE* to > > enhance your service experience! [...snip...} >Now I don't know if Earthlkink supplies the actual network for Charter? >Or something else might envolved? Clearly, it is time for WLUG to get into the CLEC business and establish a co-op DSL for all its members in central Mass! I think it would be a fine way to spend all that WLUG surplus money. ;-) Steve

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by John Murphy

On Wednesday 20 March 2002 09:58, you wrote: > Obviously :-) , sharing the info with Redmond would *HAVE* to > enhance your service experience! > > Incidentally, I also found > "Click to find out more about Paul Allen's Wired World (TM) > just above that "Rules and Policies" link > so Charter and Micro$oft seem to be in bed together :-) > Life is full of surprises! > > doug I had known Paul Allen was a partner in Charter Cable. Was surprised when I read back over a year ago that earthlink had formed a partnership with Charter Communications. Actually I was orginally on Earthlink before I switched to Charter Cable. After I had Charter installed I called Earthlink to cancel my account, they said there was no need to. They said I could be connected to Charter Cable but still maintain my billing with Earthlink. At that time Charter in Worcester had just come online a few days. They did not have my area of Worcester on Earthlink's list yet. Rather then getting caught up between the two I just cancelled Earthlink. Now I don't know if Earthlkink supplies the actual network for Charter? Or something else might envolved? John -- "Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference." -- Robert Frost

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by doug waud

Hi John Stoffel wrote: > So how do we check easily? I went to Charter's web site http://www.chartercom.com/ourstory/ourstory.asp and found a "Rules and Policies" link which took me to http://www.chartercom.com/site/rules.asp where they try to spell everything out. I could not see where passing your info onto Microslop clearly fitted in :-) I did find "Charter requests certain personal information at the time you subscribe to Charter Pipeline. Charter requests your name, address, telephone number and e-mail address. The personal information is used to manage your account for billing purposes. It is not shared with a third party, except in very limited circumstances such as is required by law or in order to enhance your service experience." Obviously :-) , sharing the info with Redmond would *HAVE* to enhance your service experience! Incidentally, I also found "Click to find out more about Paul Allen's Wired World (TM) just above that "Rules and Policies" link so Charter and Micro$oft seem to be in bed together :-) Life is full of surprises! doug

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Keith Wright

Please don't send HTML to the wlug list, especially not fugly HTML. > From: "Thomas Carey" <tcarey70(a)hotmail.com> > > <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> > <P>Nice Soprano's/Godfather reference!<BR><BR></P></DIV> > <DIV></DIV> > <DIV></DIV>>From: Wesley Allen <WALLEN(a)CHARTER.NET> > <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org ... > <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: <a href='http://g.msn.com/1HM305401/15'>Click Here</a><br></html> Can't make me! -- -- Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop <http://www.free-comp-shop.com> --- Food, Shelter, Source code. ---

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Charles R. Anderson

Please use plain text, not HTML. Thank you.

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Thomas Carey

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Outbound email broken -- SOLVED

by Skip Gaede

On Tuesday 19 March 2002 06:40 pm, you wrote: > On Tuesday 19 March 2002 06:12 pm, you wrote: > > At 03/19/2002 04:59 PM (Tuesday), sgaede(a)attbi.com wrote: > > >Folks, > > > > > >I have an account on AT&T Broadband, and for some reason, > > >my outbound email seems to be broken. I can send email > > >from KDEMail to myself and I get the mail back promptly, > > >but any email sent to a mailing list seems to go into a > > >black hole. Would you believe I mistyped my email address in setup? I had sgaede(a)attbi.comt The extra "t" was the culprit... Sigh...

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Outbound email broken

by Skip Gaede

On Tuesday 19 March 2002 06:12 pm, you wrote: > At 03/19/2002 04:59 PM (Tuesday), sgaede(a)attbi.com wrote: > >Folks, > > > >I have an account on AT&T Broadband, and for some reason, > >my outbound email seems to be broken. I can send email > >from KDEMail to myself and I get the mail back promptly, > >but any email sent to a mailing list seems to go into a > >black hole. > > Do the mailing lists have your new email address or are you still > subscribed via mediaone.net? Many will not accept mail from unsubscribed > addresses. > They have my new address! (Sorry, should have said that...)

March 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Outbound email broken

by Doug Chamberlin

At 03/19/2002 04:59 PM (Tuesday), sgaede(a)attbi.com wrote: >Folks, > >I have an account on AT&T Broadband, and for some reason, >my outbound email seems to be broken. I can send email >from KDEMail to myself and I get the mail back promptly, >but any email sent to a mailing list seems to go into a >black hole. Do the mailing lists have your new email address or are you still subscribed via mediaone.net? Many will not accept mail from unsubscribed addresses.

March 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Outbound email broken

by Chuck Homic

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 09:59:40PM +0000, sgaede(a)attbi.com wrote: > I have an account on AT&T Broadband, and for some reason, > my outbound email seems to be broken. I can send email > from KDEMail to myself and I get the mail back promptly, > but any email sent to a mailing list seems to go into a > black hole. Is your SMTP server an AT&T one, or are you trying to use SMTP service from another site? Most sane sysadmins will not allow their SMTP server to relay mail off-site (because spammers abuse this lack of security), but will accept mail for local users. For this reason, you have to use your ISP's SMTP server. (Or an open relay, I suppose.) I use this configuration when I access work email from my RoadRunner connection. I am able to get mail from my work POP/IMAP server, but to send, I have to use my local RoadRunner SMTP server. (Which is often broken, BTW!) > Can anyone suggest anything I can do to make sure the > mail makes it to the other end? Is getting a confirmation > receipt the only choice? Well, this rarely works, so it's always a bad choice, I think. ;) The best way is to make sure your SMTP is properly configured, and that delivery errors can be locally delivered back to you. (If that made no sense, hopefully someone else can explain it better? ;) ) -Chuck

March 19, 2002

Outbound email broken

by sgaede＠attbi.com

Folks, I have an account on AT&T Broadband, and for some reason, my outbound email seems to be broken. I can send email from KDEMail to myself and I get the mail back promptly, but any email sent to a mailing list seems to go into a black hole. I'm sending this from the web-based client at ATTBI.com, so I'm pretty sure this one's going to make it. Can anyone suggest anything I can do to make sure the mail makes it to the other end? Is getting a confirmation receipt the only choice? Thanks, Skip P.S. Additional info: I'm running Mandrake 8.1, with InteractiveBastille for setting up the firewall. I have a private LAN behind the firewall, so it's probably because I didn't answer one of the questions correctly while setting up the firewall. Do I need to enable inbound SMTP connections? I don't think so. (I have a registered IP name, but not a static IP address.)

March 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Wesley Allen

It was all done via e-mail; so call up or access your e-mail account that you have with them... Someone wrote that the real reason that I am upset is that my "account" is now being used to inflate .net's user stats. That hit the nail on the head; what right do they have to use my account to puff up their numbers. I don't use their cruddy services! Wes John Stoffel wrote: >I haven't seen anything from Charter on this via snail mail myself, >and I don't even use their email servers either, so maybe I'm signed >up and not realizing it. > >So how do we check easily? > >John >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 19, 2002

RE: [Wlug] RE: [WPILA-Discuss] Gentoo Linux Distro

by Chuck Haines

Did you say this because you are a redhat fan or because you were looking for a distro that did this? On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 10:55, Keller, Tim wrote: > I think it would be cool if redhat during the install had an option for > "optimized for your architecture". In choosing this option, It would run > either run a test suite and find the best settings for your machine, or it > would have a bunch of custom configs to choose from like > "586/586MMX/Athlon/686/etc". It would then spend about a day hand compiling > every package for your box and then installing it. > > Yeah it would be hilariously slow, but you'd end up with a really optimized > box. The only danger I could see would be if you find that certain > optimizations corrupted things (like gcc/glibc) etc. > > On a side note, you could have an optimize script that ran post install that > you'd just say something like "optimize --all --no=kernel --mode=586MMX > ftp://jungle.unc.edu/blah/blah/redhat" or /mnt/cdrom and it would go off, > grab the SRPMS and systematically make your machine fully 586MMX optimized, > skipping the kernel. Though I'm thinking you'd probably want some order to > the way it did it. I would think that you'd want to upgrade gcc and glibc > first, since they'll speed things up. > > Just ideas... > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Sweetser [mailto:fs@WPI.EDU] > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 18:54 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] RE: [WPILA-Discuss] Gentoo Linux Distro > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 05:35:26PM -0500, Josh Huber wrote: > > Frank Sweetser <fs(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > > > > > Someone please tell me if I'm wrong, because that seems like a > > > pretty hackish way to do things. > > > > Yeah, you're wrong. Please read what I posted, especially: > > > > "By default, after installing this package, the compilers will behave > > normally. However, if the environment variable DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=pentium > > is set, they will enter pentium optimized compile mode." > > Okay, that's not nearly so bad. I still prefer the rpm way, but that's > a reasonable solution as well =) > > -- > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 18 > Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | > When I have a kid, I want to buy one of those strollers for twins. > Then put the kid in and run around, looking frantic. -- Stephen Wright > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- --------------------------------------------- | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | GDC Webmaster | ICQ: 3707881 | | WPI Class of 2005 | MSN: CyberGrex | | chaines(a)wpi.edu | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | ---------------------------------------------

March 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by John Stoffel

I haven't seen anything from Charter on this via snail mail myself, and I don't even use their email servers either, so maybe I'm signed up and not realizing it. So how do we check easily? John

March 19, 2002