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RE: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area)

by Clint Moyer

I used Galaxy for about 4 years with zero problems before I went cable last year. Clint -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Michelle Vadeboncoeur Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:42 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area) On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: SCD> A friend of mine has a small business in Westborough and I helped put SCD> together a web site for him. He now wants to dump AOL and get a less SCD> expensive "dial-up account". SCD> SCD> Anyone have a recommendation? He is paying ~$25/month for AOL... He SCD> doesn't want/need Charter, just wants to check mail a few times during the SCD> day. Speaking of which, does anyone have any experience with either gis.net or thecia.net ? $20 set-up fee, $14.95/month. prepay 6 or more months, it's $11.95/month. sign-up online, and you get $5 off teh $20 set-up fee ($15 instead). I'm looking for a better plan than the AT&T Worldnet service that my mother has. She used to be on AT&T's 7/7 plan ($7/mo., 7c/min long distance, the basic ATT Worldnet service (150 hours/mo., with ads)), but ATT just dropped herfrom that with no warning (saying that thethe plan was no longer offered), so now she's stuck looking for long distance service and also internet service. (The ATT Worldnet alone is >$15/mo.) In her experience, I can definately say to stay away from Juno (and since they're with NetZero now...) -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/ _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area)

by stark＠galaxy.net

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 01:32:22PM -0500, Clint Moyer <cdmoyer(a)charter.net> wrote: > I used Galaxy for about 4 years with zero problems before I went cable last > year. Another good point of galaxy is that I can use IMAP. For some reason they don't officially tell it though. Is there any cable ISP providing IMAP ? /stark

April 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area)

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: SCD> A friend of mine has a small business in Westborough and I helped put SCD> together a web site for him. He now wants to dump AOL and get a less SCD> expensive "dial-up account". SCD> SCD> Anyone have a recommendation? He is paying ~$25/month for AOL... He SCD> doesn't want/need Charter, just wants to check mail a few times during the SCD> day. Speaking of which, does anyone have any experience with either gis.net or thecia.net ? $20 set-up fee, $14.95/month. prepay 6 or more months, it's $11.95/month. sign-up online, and you get $5 off teh $20 set-up fee ($15 instead). I'm looking for a better plan than the AT&T Worldnet service that my mother has. She used to be on AT&T's 7/7 plan ($7/mo., 7c/min long distance, the basic ATT Worldnet service (150 hours/mo., with ads)), but ATT just dropped herfrom that with no warning (saying that thethe plan was no longer offered), so now she's stuck looking for long distance service and also internet service. (The ATT Worldnet alone is >$15/mo.) In her experience, I can definately say to stay away from Juno (and since they're with NetZero now...) -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/

April 3, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area)

by Mike

You can take a look at surfbest or cognisurf. $12.50/month. http://www.alllongdistance.com/web.html BTW, being up front this is my site. Michael LaPointe > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:42 AM > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area) > > > A friend of mine has a small business in Westborough and I helped put > together a web site for him. He now wants to dump AOL and get a less > expensive "dial-up account". > > Anyone have a recommendation? He is paying ~$25/month for AOL... He > doesn't want/need Charter, just wants to check mail a few times > during the > day. > > Also, anyone know if you can set-up email forwarding in AOL? > > Thanks! > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area)

by The Greater Worcester Land Trust

For what it is worth I can say that I have been on Ultranet, RCN and Cyberonic dial-up accounts quite a bit, and I have some experience with Netway as well. Ultranet got eaten (too bad too.) I found RCN's service to be very solid and reliable, but their billing policies have a tendency towards the duplicitous. Also the service line leads into endless oblivion, and they have a policy of never letting you get a name or a service tech back on the line, or even a consistent call center. I was less than a fan. Cyberonic has been solid so far (using it since January), and the tech line has not required hours on hold. I have been pretty happy with them. Buy a year with Cyberonic and it works out to $13.99 a month. Buy two years up front and it is less. Unlimited dialup, with a restriction of keeping any one log on to under 8 hours (thought they have not pulled the plug on an active transfer at 8 hours for me, just a dead line) Also Cyberonic has an office in Worcester. Netway is ok, but the pipe gets real small during the busy part of the day and you want to shoot yourself waiting for stuff (folks with their own cable modem have no idea how close you live to insanity on a dial up line to begin with so any further constriction is pure torture.) My thoughts. Ignore them. Colin On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 08:41:51 -0500, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: >A friend of mine has a small business in Westborough and I helped put >together a web site for him. He now wants to dump AOL and get a less >expensive "dial-up account". > >Anyone have a recommendation? He is paying ~$25/month for AOL... He >doesn't want/need Charter, just wants to check mail a few times during the >day. > >Also, anyone know if you can set-up email forwarding in AOL? > >Thanks! >Steve > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area)

by Gary J. Hanley

Until late last year I would have recommended my ISP, www.theworld.com. However they have faltered as of late, especially with their mail system and other small issues that add up to one big one. But, you can get a cheap and limited account there so if he doesn't mind dealing with intermittent email issues maybe it's what he's looking for...? -- Gary On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > A friend of mine has a small business in Westborough and I helped put > together a web site for him. He now wants to dump AOL and get a less > expensive "dial-up account". > Anyone have a recommendation? He is paying ~$25/month for AOL... He > doesn't want/need Charter, just wants to check mail a few times during the > day. > Also, anyone know if you can set-up email forwarding in AOL? > Thanks! > Steve

April 3, 2002

Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area)

by Stephen C. Daukas

A friend of mine has a small business in Westborough and I helped put together a web site for him. He now wants to dump AOL and get a less expensive "dial-up account". Anyone have a recommendation? He is paying ~$25/month for AOL... He doesn't want/need Charter, just wants to check mail a few times during the day. Also, anyone know if you can set-up email forwarding in AOL? Thanks! Steve

April 3, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area)

by Simoncini, Matthew

www.speakeasy.net -----Original Message----- From: Stephen C. Daukas [mailto:stephen@daukas.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:42 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Looking for dial-up provider (Westboro area) A friend of mine has a small business in Westborough and I helped put together a web site for him. He now wants to dump AOL and get a less expensive "dial-up account". Anyone have a recommendation? He is paying ~$25/month for AOL... He doesn't want/need Charter, just wants to check mail a few times during the day. Also, anyone know if you can set-up email forwarding in AOL? Thanks! Steve _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 3, 2002

Another interesting .signature...

by Stephen C. Daukas

"Volk" means "people". You can figure out the rest. "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Ad "Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler

April 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Problems dropping telnet sessions

by Jason Calvert

Sounds like a firewall problem. Just for fun you might try lowering your keepalive time to say 29 min, or even lower just for testing, and see if that helps. The default is 2 hours (7200 sec) or 14400 half sec on bsd) cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time 7200 you can use sysctl or just echo the new value in echo 1740 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_keepalive_time or sudo /sbin/sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_time=1740 Anyone know if this works for clients as well as daemons? Jason On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 09:36, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > Hello all, > > I recently traded in my Solaris 8 (x86) install for SuSE Linux 7.3 and now > am having problems keeping telnet sessions open for extended periods of > time. Let me give a little background on what I use this box for. > > Basically my linux box is used as a workstation for system monitoring. I > usually have 6 to 8 separate desktops which I use to separate our different > Unix environments (i.e. development, test, production ...). I may run HP > Openview client on one desktop to monitor alerts and keep telnet sessions > open on other desktops in order to quickly access a given server. > > Until recently I've been using Solaris 8 (x86) with no problems, but decided > I wanted to get comfortable with linux and prove to my boss that there are > many nice things we can do with linux that we can't do with Solaris. I > installed SuSe 7.3 (2.4.10 kernel) and since have had troubles keeping > telnet connections alive. What I mean by that is, when I leave the linux > workstation inactive for a period of time (let's say 30 minutes), my telnet > sessions are disconnected with the message "Connection closed by foreign > host". I can find no messages in /var/adm/messages (on the Solaris side) or > /var/log/messages (on the linux side). > > Anyone have this type of problem or more importantly, can someone point me > in the right direction? > > Thanks. > > Matthew > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

April 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Problems dropping telnet sessions

by Charles R. Anderson

Try ipchains -L too, since you might have an ipchains based firewall. On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:33:44AM -0500, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: Matthew.Simoncini> This is really quite interesting to me, so any input is very helpful. Maybe the TCP timers are different on Linux? They are in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp*. Some docs for these variables are available here: http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.4/doc/networking/ip-sysctl.txt.html You might also want to look at the tcp(7) manual page where they also document the sysctls: man 7 tcp -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

April 2, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Problems dropping telnet sessions

by Simoncini, Matthew

I executed the iptables -L command and got the following output: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination I'm not really that familiar with firewalls in linux, but I would assume that iptables is running without rules? I also noticed that it's not one particular host that bumps me out of telnet, but all connections and all hosts. The network folks don't know (or maybe they do) that I'm running linux on the network, but is there a way for them to periodically reset the port I'm using in the data closet? This is really quite interesting to me, so any input is very helpful. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:11 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Problems dropping telnet sessions On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 09:36:00AM -0500, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > Anyone have this type of problem or more importantly, can someone point me > in the right direction? My first two thoughts are: iptables times out your connection for some reason, or the remote side has an autologout value set. Is there a firewall setup on your box? You can do "iptables -L" to find out. As for autologout, I would think this would have affected you before, but it's something to rule out anyway. What shell are you using on the remote machines? If it's a csh variant, run "echo $autologout" and see what it comes back with. If it comes back with a defined non-0 value, that is a likely cause of your problem. Run "set autologout=0" and see if that fixes your problem. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Note that if I can get you to \"su and say\" something just by asking, you have a very serious security problem on your system and you should look into it." (By Paul Vixie, vixie-cron 3.0.1 installation notes) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] RBL access

by Theo Van Dinter

On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 10:57:42AM -0500, Chuck Homic wrote: > BTW, for the curious, my daily haul of junk mail varies from 20 to 40 > messages. Can anyone beat that? I'm currently at 49 since midnight on April 1st. This isn't counting the spams rejected at the SMTP level that I never see. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence." - Sinclair on Babylon 5

April 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Problems dropping telnet sessions

by Theo Van Dinter

On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 09:36:00AM -0500, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > Anyone have this type of problem or more importantly, can someone point me > in the right direction? My first two thoughts are: iptables times out your connection for some reason, or the remote side has an autologout value set. Is there a firewall setup on your box? You can do "iptables -L" to find out. As for autologout, I would think this would have affected you before, but it's something to rule out anyway. What shell are you using on the remote machines? If it's a csh variant, run "echo $autologout" and see what it comes back with. If it comes back with a defined non-0 value, that is a likely cause of your problem. Run "set autologout=0" and see if that fixes your problem. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Note that if I can get you to \"su and say\" something just by asking, you have a very serious security problem on your system and you should look into it." (By Paul Vixie, vixie-cron 3.0.1 installation notes)

April 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] RBL access

by Adam ＠ Oak

Only my hotmail account beats that ;-). Of course, that's what its there for... -Adam > BTW, for the curious, my daily haul of junk mail varies from 20 to 40 > messages. Can anyone beat that? "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________

April 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] RBL access

by Theo Van Dinter

On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 10:57:42AM -0500, Chuck Homic wrote: > I'm getting quite a lot of crap email these days, ever since ORBS/ORBL & > Co. disappeared, and MAPS went to a fee-based service. (I'm really not > planning to pay $200/yr for a single blackhole list.) I was never really > crazy about MAPS to begin with, because they tried too hard to be "fair." MAPS is still free for non-commercial use. There are many others out there. > Anyway, is anyone using (or know of) a freely-queriable RBL? Although > it's fun to upgrade the keyword filter, it would be easier if I only had > to do it for exceptions. > > BTW, for the curious, my daily haul of junk mail varies from 20 to 40 > messages. Can anyone beat that? check out: http://www.kluge.net/mailfiltering/ I've been writing up most of what I do on my machine. It's partially written for my users and partially written for other people who want to find out about mail filtering. At a minimum, I have a listing of the RBLs that I specifically use. There are more out there. My main suggestion to you is: get SpamAssassin. For anything that gets through your MTA, it'll clear up your inbox. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Minix is one of the reasons I decided microkernels are bad. VMS is the reason I decided VMS is bad." - Linus Torvalds

April 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] RBL access

by Charles R. Anderson

Use Spamassassin. Seriously. It works. Very well. http://www.spamassassin.org/ -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

April 2, 2002

RBL access

by Chuck Homic

Hey, guys. I'm getting quite a lot of crap email these days, ever since ORBS/ORBL & Co. disappeared, and MAPS went to a fee-based service. (I'm really not planning to pay $200/yr for a single blackhole list.) I was never really crazy about MAPS to begin with, because they tried too hard to be "fair." ;) ORBS was hyper-aggressive, and rocked. (About 80% of my crap email was filtered by ORBS, and I had special pre-RBL filters that extracted mail from friends using bad ISP's with open relays.) Anyway, is anyone using (or know of) a freely-queriable RBL? Although it's fun to upgrade the keyword filter, it would be easier if I only had to do it for exceptions. BTW, for the curious, my daily haul of junk mail varies from 20 to 40 messages. Can anyone beat that? -Chuck

April 2, 2002

Problems dropping telnet sessions

by Simoncini, Matthew

Hello all, I recently traded in my Solaris 8 (x86) install for SuSE Linux 7.3 and now am having problems keeping telnet sessions open for extended periods of time. Let me give a little background on what I use this box for. Basically my linux box is used as a workstation for system monitoring. I usually have 6 to 8 separate desktops which I use to separate our different Unix environments (i.e. development, test, production ...). I may run HP Openview client on one desktop to monitor alerts and keep telnet sessions open on other desktops in order to quickly access a given server. Until recently I've been using Solaris 8 (x86) with no problems, but decided I wanted to get comfortable with linux and prove to my boss that there are many nice things we can do with linux that we can't do with Solaris. I installed SuSe 7.3 (2.4.10 kernel) and since have had troubles keeping telnet connections alive. What I mean by that is, when I leave the linux workstation inactive for a period of time (let's say 30 minutes), my telnet sessions are disconnected with the message "Connection closed by foreign host". I can find no messages in /var/adm/messages (on the Solaris side) or /var/log/messages (on the linux side). Anyone have this type of problem or more importantly, can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks. Matthew

April 2, 2002

Re: poor PCMCIA network performance

by Mark J. Dulcey

Robert L Krawitz wrote: > I use two network cards in my Dell Inspiron 8000 (PIII-700): a 3Com > 3CCFE574BT and a Linksys wireless card. With the 3Com card (which is > a 10/100) I never get better than 1.4 MB/sec (about 12 Mb/sec), even > when the card is in 100 Mb mode (at some point in the past the limit > was about 2.5 MB/sec). At that rate, top shows my CPU utilization > pegged at about 100%, even doing a simple ftp. I know the card > doesn't do DMA, but that's rather slow even for a PIO transfer. These > cards have been around for ages; I don't think people would have been > too satisfied with 400 KB/sec saturating a 200 MHz system. Your results with the 3Com card are normal for a 16-bit PCMCIA card. The wall you're hitting is the PCMCIA interface. You would have done much better to get a CardBus card (such as the 3CCFE575CT); you should be able to saturate a Fast Ethernet with one of those, and the CPU utilization would be lower. Basically, 10/100 16-bit cards are something of a lie, since you can never get anywhere near 100 Mbps from them. The same is true of 10/100 USB interfaces (the 12 Mbps speed of USB is a hard limit), though USB 2.0 (480 Mbps) could be different if anyone ever produces a USB 2.0 Ethernet interface. > On the Linksys card, I likewise never get more than about 250 KB/sec, > even if the computer is right next to the WAP and the link quality is > 92/92, suggesting that I'm also hitting up against a hard limit. The > WAP is connected to my main system via the motherboard ethernet, which > I know from other means (when I was transferring data from my previous > system to the current one) has no trouble maxing out at 10 MB/sec > (that ethernet does DMA). Not sure about that one; it may be that you're doing about as well as 802.11b and your access point will allow. The bit rate of 802.11b is 11Mbps, but there are other issues with wireless, such as latency (always higher than wired LANs) and delays for the collision avoidance.

April 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] poor PCMCIA network performance

by Robert L Krawitz

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 10:23:12 -0500 From: "Charles R. Anderson" <cra(a)wpi.edu> Using FTP to check the speed of the network is not a great idea, especially on slow laptop disks. You could be running into the limitations of your disk subsystem. There is a program called ttcp which will test TCP performance with nothing else involved. My laptop disk is fast enough (it's an IBM 32 GB 5400 RPM device); the disk streaming bandwidth (writing to a file) is in excess of 10 MB/sec. The disk on my main system is a SCSI disk that benchmarks at >30 MB/sec. Are those card 16-bit PCMCIA, or 32-bit Cardbus? If they are 16-bit, you are probably maxing out the bus. 16-bit PCMCIA is no better than the old ISA bus in terms of speed. 32-bit Cardbus is like PCI. The wired card is 16 bit. I don't know about the wireless Linksys; I suspect that it is also. For the 10/100 card, check the settings to be sure that both ends of the link are operating at the same duplex. If you are connecting to a repeater (hub, not a switch) you must be using half duplex. If you are connecting to a switch, then the card has to be configured for the same duplex as the switch or you will have horrible performance. Alternatively, the card and the switch can be configured for autonegotiation, so they will both agree on the "best" settings that they both support. Unfortunately, autonegotiation is sometimes buggy and sometimes doesn't work right between different vendor's devices. This is more of a problem with older network devices. I'll look into that. Thanks. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print/stp -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

April 1, 2002

T&G guotes

by doug waud

Hi I liked the following two quotes in today's (4/1/02) Telegram and Gazette (page A8) "Microsoft bids to acquire Catholic Church" and "Microsoft exploding an underground nuclear device" doug

April 1, 2002

Re: [Wlug] poor PCMCIA network performance

by Charles R. Anderson

Using FTP to check the speed of the network is not a great idea, especially on slow laptop disks. You could be running into the limitations of your disk subsystem. There is a program called ttcp which will test TCP performance with nothing else involved. Are those card 16-bit PCMCIA, or 32-bit Cardbus? If they are 16-bit, you are probably maxing out the bus. 16-bit PCMCIA is no better than the old ISA bus in terms of speed. 32-bit Cardbus is like PCI. For the 10/100 card, check the settings to be sure that both ends of the link are operating at the same duplex. If you are connecting to a repeater (hub, not a switch) you must be using half duplex. If you are connecting to a switch, then the card has to be configured for the same duplex as the switch or you will have horrible performance. Alternatively, the card and the switch can be configured for autonegotiation, so they will both agree on the "best" settings that they both support. Unfortunately, autonegotiation is sometimes buggy and sometimes doesn't work right between different vendor's devices. This is more of a problem with older network devices. On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 08:14:06AM -0500, Robert L Krawitz wrote: rlk> I use two network cards in my Dell Inspiron 8000 (PIII-700): a 3Com rlk> 3CCFE574BT and a Linksys wireless card. With the 3Com card (which is rlk> a 10/100) I never get better than 1.4 MB/sec (about 12 Mb/sec), even rlk> when the card is in 100 Mb mode (at some point in the past the limit rlk> was about 2.5 MB/sec). At that rate, top shows my CPU utilization rlk> pegged at about 100%, even doing a simple ftp. I know the card rlk> doesn't do DMA, but that's rather slow even for a PIO transfer. These rlk> cards have been around for ages; I don't think people would have been rlk> too satisfied with 400 KB/sec saturating a 200 MHz system. rlk> rlk> On the Linksys card, I likewise never get more than about 250 KB/sec, rlk> even if the computer is right next to the WAP and the link quality is rlk> 92/92, suggesting that I'm also hitting up against a hard limit. The rlk> WAP is connected to my main system via the motherboard ethernet, which rlk> I know from other means (when I was transferring data from my previous rlk> system to the current one) has no trouble maxing out at 10 MB/sec rlk> (that ethernet does DMA). -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

April 1, 2002

RE: [Wlug] T&G guotes

by Keller, Tim

Well, the first one I could actually conceive of... You figure, if they acquire the catholic church they'd just decree that as of baptism you signed the EULA (sorta like opening the package means you agree to the terms (that are on the slip of paper inside the package..)) since the EULA basically means microsoft could set off a nuclear device and get away with it, they'd have no problem proving in court that the church isn't responsible for faulty prietware. As for the nuclear device, If its a microsoft nuclear device I can see the following things happening... 1. Needs repeated reboots before exploding. 2. The trigger will need to have a service pack installed. 3. You'll need to buy MSND 1.5 to get the newest features (like exploding) 4. You'll need to have IE installed along with the latest direct X drivers. 5. before exploding you'll need to get a MSND registration number and enter it in binary using a telegraph pad. 6. "Explode" and "Disarm" will be the same button... Just some thoughts... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: doug waud [mailto:douglas.waud@umassmed.edu] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:36 AM To: wlug Subject: [Wlug] T&G guotes Hi I liked the following two quotes in today's (4/1/02) Telegram and Gazette (page A8) "Microsoft bids to acquire Catholic Church" and "Microsoft exploding an underground nuclear device" doug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 1, 2002

poor PCMCIA network performance

by Robert L Krawitz

I use two network cards in my Dell Inspiron 8000 (PIII-700): a 3Com 3CCFE574BT and a Linksys wireless card. With the 3Com card (which is a 10/100) I never get better than 1.4 MB/sec (about 12 Mb/sec), even when the card is in 100 Mb mode (at some point in the past the limit was about 2.5 MB/sec). At that rate, top shows my CPU utilization pegged at about 100%, even doing a simple ftp. I know the card doesn't do DMA, but that's rather slow even for a PIO transfer. These cards have been around for ages; I don't think people would have been too satisfied with 400 KB/sec saturating a 200 MHz system. On the Linksys card, I likewise never get more than about 250 KB/sec, even if the computer is right next to the WAP and the link quality is 92/92, suggesting that I'm also hitting up against a hard limit. The WAP is connected to my main system via the motherboard ethernet, which I know from other means (when I was transferring data from my previous system to the current one) has no trouble maxing out at 10 MB/sec (that ethernet does DMA). eth1 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"..." Nickname:"..." Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437GHz Access Point: 00:04:5A:CF:F3:B1 Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm Sensitivity:1/3 Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Power Management:off Link Quality:26/92 Signal level:-76 dBm Noise level:-149 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 invalid crypt:0 invalid misc:0 I'm running SuSE 7.3 on both systems, with a recompiled kernel based on kernel-source-2.4.16.SuSE-24. I'm not (or don't think I am) running a firewall or NAT on the laptop, despite what's in the module list. I've had no luck finding anything on the net. Modules that look like they should be relevant are: orinoco_cs 4352 1 orinoco 27312 0 [orinoco_cs] hermes 3200 0 [orinoco_cs orinoco] af_packet 11616 0 (autoclean) appletalk 18832 0 (autoclean) ipx 15008 0 (autoclean) ds 6384 2 [orinoco_cs] yenta_socket 8368 2 pcmcia_core 37568 0 [orinoco_cs ds yenta_socket] ipv6 124480 -1 (autoclean) iptable_nat 12560 0 (autoclean) (unused) ip_conntrack 12656 1 (autoclean) [iptable_nat] iptable_filter 1728 0 (autoclean) (unused) ip_tables 10304 4 [iptable_nat iptable_filter] Suggestions? -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gimp Print/stp -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

April 1, 2002