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Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by Joe Riopel

You could download Sam Spade ( I only know of a windows version ). It will give you a good amount of information about an IP address. -Joe

June 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Who is port scanning me?

by Peter Gutowski

On Friday, June 21, 2002 4:24 PM, Simoncini, Matthew <Matthew.Simoncini(a)bsci.com> wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I'm constantly getting port scanned from a certain IP address on our >internal corporate network. I'd really like to find out where and who this >person is, but don't know much outside of ping, traceroute, nslookup, etc >.... I was wondering if anyone knows of any tools that can get me more >information on this person? This happens to be on our private network, so >most internet tools I don't think will help much. > >Thanks for your time. > >Matthew >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > With iptables (upgrade to ipchains and so much more sophisticated) installed you can configure it to ignore *any* packet sent from that machine [defining it by IP address or MAC address] -- responding (or not, this case) as if your computer were turned off. Works for me. -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 531-0123 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

June 21, 2002

Who is port scanning me?

by Simoncini, Matthew

Hi everyone, I'm constantly getting port scanned from a certain IP address on our internal corporate network. I'd really like to find out where and who this person is, but don't know much outside of ping, traceroute, nslookup, etc .... I was wondering if anyone knows of any tools that can get me more information on this person? This happens to be on our private network, so most internet tools I don't think will help much. Thanks for your time. Matthew

June 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] browser war

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 12:25:17PM -0400, Bill Smith wrote: wsmith> ahhh... and for the last few months, i've been using Galeon... 8\ That doesn't count as separate from Mozilla. It's still Gecko. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

June 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] browser war

by Bill Smith

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> wrote: KH> A co-worker wanted help checking his AOL e-mail. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ why does this scare me? KH> M$ IE now crashes on the webmail page. It is unuseable in most KH> cases. okay... this is normal. what's the problem? <g> KH> I installed netscape 6.2.3 the AOL webmail page works 100%. KH> So the Netscape/AOL time warner broswer works there. interesting. KH> return of the browser wars. ahhh... and for the last few months, i've been using Galeon... 8\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com The truth is out there! * TAG! v3.0 *

June 20, 2002

browser war

by Karl Hiramoto

A co-worker wanted help checking his AOL e-mail. He would usually use M$ IE to longin to the AOL webmail. M$ IE now crashes on the webmail page. It is unuseable in most cases. I installed netscape 6.2.3 the AOL webmail page works 100%. So the Netscape/AOL time warner broswer works there. return of the browser wars. -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø PENGUINICITY!!

June 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] XO goes Chapter 11...

by Karl Hiramoto

@ my work we have X0 for both phone and data. I got the exact same message in my inbox yesterday. We're going to stay with XO for the moment. Hopefully we don't get screwed... On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Thought I'd pass this along in case anyone out there is thinking of going > with XO Communications. > > http://www.xo.com/news/restructuring_update.html > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Bershere's Formula for Failure: There are only two kinds of people who fail: those who listen to nobody... and those who listen to everybody.

June 19, 2002

XO goes Chapter 11...

by Stephen C. Daukas

Thought I'd pass this along in case anyone out there is thinking of going with XO Communications. http://www.xo.com/news/restructuring_update.html

June 19, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Boston Globe article

by Steve Freitag

You might also try sifting through directory.google.com... for example: http://directory.google.com/Top/Reference/Knowledge_Management/Knowledge _Flow/Collaboration/Tools/ http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Groupware/Open_Source / -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Mills-Curran Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 3:00 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Boston Globe article Since sending out my original email on this, I took a moment to look on freshmeat (what a concept -- looking for something myself!) and found this: http://cvw.sourceforge.net/ This is a public domain product that seems quite mature (at least the screenshots are cool). The client side is written in Java, and there are versions for both UNIX and Windows. This might be worth the time to investigate. Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Boston Globe article

by Bill Mills-Curran

Since sending out my original email on this, I took a moment to look on freshmeat (what a concept -- looking for something myself!) and found this: http://cvw.sourceforge.net/ This is a public domain product that seems quite mature (at least the screenshots are cool). The client side is written in Java, and there are versions for both UNIX and Windows. This might be worth the time to investigate. Bill

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Boston Globe article

by Scott Venier

On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > One feature they mentioned that I have not encountered in the > UNIX/Linux/Gnu world is a collaborative whiteboard that allows > different users to share an electronic whiteboard. > > Has anyone seen anything like this in the open source community? > Ideally, it would be web-based so that it would not be specific to any > one client OS. > There's a java proram called bablyon that I found on freshmeat about a year ago. I haven't gone looking since then, but the choices were pretty slim at the time. Scott

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Laptop question - screen resolution

by doug waud

Andy Stewart wrote: > When I run X and then run xvidtune, when I'm in 1024x768 mode, it indicates a > refresh of 60 Hz. However, when I run in 800x600 mode, xvidtune thinks the > refresh rate is around 90Hz, and in 640x480 mode, xvidtune thinks the refresh > rate is 131 Hz(!). I'm not sure I believe it since I don't think the display > can handle that (but if it is true, am I seriously overdriving the display?). I don't think so. The usual concerns about cooking monitors arise out of the use of the horizontal sync on TV's etc to provide the 25 or so KV needed for electron acceleration. When you are generating 25 KV even at a very low current the power goes up a lot. Hence, the horizontal system is usually engineered near the limit and this is why it is dangerous to exceed those design values. The LCD panel does not have this electron accelerating potential so the above does not apply. > Also note that in the lower resolution modes, the display actually looks a > tad fuzzy. I am not using anti-aliased fonts. As already noted by Brian and Chuck, that is par for the course. An LCD is very simple. It is an array of dots 1024 by 768 in your case, 800 by 600 in mine. Thus the video driver expects exactly that number and, if you ask for anything else will either have to interpolate (hence the fuzzy) or just use a subset (the small screen Chuck notes). The bottom line is that using screen resolutions other than that innate to the screen is pointless. One exception of relevance to you as mother superior of WLUG. If you are in Kinnicutt and want to use the projector, you may have to drop back to a resolution the projector can digest. :-) Incidentally, if the 1024 by 768 gives fonts that are too small, you can usually change font size in the application (not a problem for you but I am getting to the point where eyesight limitations are starting to be noticeable :-( ) > Is this normal for laptops or am I doing something wrong? Yes, yes. :-) doug

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Laptop question - screen resolution

by Charles R. Anderson

On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 10:42:54PM -0400, Brian J.Conway wrote: bconway> Most LCDs are generally meant to be run at a single resolution and will bconway> look fuzzy at less than that. Try upping it, my Dell Inspiron 8000 with bconway> 15" screen looks crisp (and correct) at 1400x1050 but gets fuzzy at bconway> 1280x1024 and less. I'm not sure the real technical details on how those bconway> suckers work, that's just my experience. Yes, LCD's always run at the same resolution (the max that they advertise usually). To get the other "resolutions" there are two methods: 1. Use only the center area of the screen to display smaller resolutions. The border around the image is black. 1 pixel at the resolution you chose == 1 real pixel on the LCD. 2. Stretch the requested resolution to fill the entire area of the LCD. This method, obviously, must always look fuzzy, since you are using more than one "real" pixel to display a simulated pixel. 1 pixel at the resolution you chose > 1 real pixel on the LCD. You can usually select which method you want to use in the system BIOS. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Laptop question - screen resolution

by Brian J.Conway

> When I run X and then run xvidtune, when I'm in 1024x768 mode, it > indicates a refresh of 60 Hz. However, when I run in 800x600 mode, > xvidtune thinks the refresh rate is around 90Hz, and in 640x480 mode, > xvidtune thinks the refresh rate is 131 Hz(!). I'm not sure I believe > it since I don't think the display can handle that (but if it is true, > am I seriously overdriving the display?). Chances are good your LCD screen is fixed at 60 Hz for all resolutions. > Also note that in the lower resolution modes, the display actually looks > a tad fuzzy. I am not using anti-aliased fonts. > > Is this normal for laptops or am I doing something wrong? Most LCDs are generally meant to be run at a single resolution and will look fuzzy at less than that. Try upping it, my Dell Inspiron 8000 with 15" screen looks crisp (and correct) at 1400x1050 but gets fuzzy at 1280x1024 and less. I'm not sure the real technical details on how those suckers work, that's just my experience. Brian J. Conway bconway(a)wpi.edu "Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves." - Albert Einstein

June 18, 2002

Laptop question - screen resolution

by Andy Stewart

HI WLUG, My laptop has a 15" screen rated for 1024x768. I setup my laptop to have 3 resolutions in my XF86Config file: 1024x768 (default) 800x600 640x480 With XFree86 4.x, it appears that I don't explicitly need to specify a mode line any more (but I can if I wish). SuSE's configuration process puts a mode line in for me. When I run X and then run xvidtune, when I'm in 1024x768 mode, it indicates a refresh of 60 Hz. However, when I run in 800x600 mode, xvidtune thinks the refresh rate is around 90Hz, and in 640x480 mode, xvidtune thinks the refresh rate is 131 Hz(!). I'm not sure I believe it since I don't think the display can handle that (but if it is true, am I seriously overdriving the display?). Also note that in the lower resolution modes, the display actually looks a tad fuzzy. I am not using anti-aliased fonts. Is this normal for laptops or am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Javascript Help

by Wesley Allen

thanks, I'll try this out. Wes On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 19:14, Michael Frysinger wrote: > what i do is give the encapsulating element an id > id=f00 > then in the mouseover event, i just create a new > element, and set element f00 equal to it > then on mouseout, i restore the original table > in this way i have a bar on the right of mouseovers, > with the large center table changing > if you want some example code ill send it private like > -mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wesley Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> > To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 16:49 > Subject: [Wlug] Javascript Help > > > > Guys, > > My Javascript + dhtml has always been one great hack. And, unlike the > > other scripting languages I use (all open source) there just doesn't > > seem to be a great "javascript community" on the web. Just lots of free > > samples (yes, i've googled, maybe not enough). > > > > Here's my problem. I've got a table and I want one column to be used > > to display the different links in each area. If I mouse over "about us" > > I want the other table to display the links for that area. > > > > when I do this outside a table, I just create a bunch of <div>'s that > > are hidden, and just Javascript to make them visible and raise their > > z-index at the proper time (yes, terrible hack, my javascript sucks). > > In the table, I'm not sure how to "stack" the different <div>'s. I > > though relative positioning would do the trick, because the parent for > > all of the <div>'s should be the <td> tag, but instead the <div>'s > > relatively position to one another. So, I'm kinda stuck. > > > > Any help you can give would be great, web sites with tutorials are > > great too. Pre-made scripts are ok, but I'm actually trying to learn > > something here. > > > > Thanks, > > Wes > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 18, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Javascript Help

by Michael Frysinger

what i do is give the encapsulating element an id id=f00 then in the mouseover event, i just create a new element, and set element f00 equal to it then on mouseout, i restore the original table in this way i have a bar on the right of mouseovers, with the large center table changing if you want some example code ill send it private like -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wesley Allen" <wallen(a)charter.net> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 16:49 Subject: [Wlug] Javascript Help > Guys, > My Javascript + dhtml has always been one great hack. And, unlike the > other scripting languages I use (all open source) there just doesn't > seem to be a great "javascript community" on the web. Just lots of free > samples (yes, i've googled, maybe not enough). > > Here's my problem. I've got a table and I want one column to be used > to display the different links in each area. If I mouse over "about us" > I want the other table to display the links for that area. > > when I do this outside a table, I just create a bunch of <div>'s that > are hidden, and just Javascript to make them visible and raise their > z-index at the proper time (yes, terrible hack, my javascript sucks). > In the table, I'm not sure how to "stack" the different <div>'s. I > though relative positioning would do the trick, because the parent for > all of the <div>'s should be the <td> tag, but instead the <div>'s > relatively position to one another. So, I'm kinda stuck. > > Any help you can give would be great, web sites with tutorials are > great too. Pre-made scripts are ok, but I'm actually trying to learn > something here. > > Thanks, > Wes > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 17, 2002

Boston Globe article

by Bill Mills-Curran

http://digitalmass.boston.com/news/globe_tech/at_large/2002/0617.html Today's edition of the Boston Globe has an article about collaborative tools. Featured in the article is a product called SiteScape which I had seemed demo'd just last week. Many of the features of the collaborative tool set are familiar to me in other settings: email, IRC (for "immediate" stuff), news (for discussions) and version control to track document modifications. One feature they mentioned that I have not encountered in the UNIX/Linux/Gnu world is a collaborative whiteboard that allows different users to share an electronic whiteboard. Has anyone seen anything like this in the open source community? Ideally, it would be web-based so that it would not be specific to any one client OS. Thanks, Bill

June 17, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Xmon / Serial cable

by Skip Gaede

On Friday 14 June 2002 06:57, Skip Gaede wrote: > Folks, > > I'd like to try my hand at debugging the kernel boot process on a Macintosh > PPC. I have a couple of silly questions, though. > Folks, As an update, I was able to debug the boot process without resorting to a debugger. I found two techniques worked well: putting the kernel into an infinite loop at strategic points in the process, either unconditionally or based on the result of a test: for(;<test>;){int foo;foo++;} and/or using low level routines for displaying information on the console: ptext_drawstring, and ptext_drawhex; The fact that the bug I was chasing had to do with the nonrelocation of the console framebuffer made printing somewhat unreliable, The good news is that I found the bug, the kernel is mostly working, and the latest swapping code is much better than the 2.4.13 code I previously had access to. --Skip

June 17, 2002

RE:[SOLVED] [Wlug] Burning ISO's

by Simoncini, Matthew

Thanks everyone for their input and offers for burning 7.3 to CD's. I actually found what I needed with the existing burn software I have. It was under "Global Image or Other Image", in my case ISO is Other Image. -----Original Message----- From: David Goss [mailto:vze2bd6u@verizon.net] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:30 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Burning ISO's i've got 73 on cd if you need a copy... but from what i've seen so far don't rush into anyuthing... 72 with a couple kernal upgrades runs just as well... assimilation is futile dave goss ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:50 PM Subject: RE: [Wlug] Burning ISO's > Your other solution might be to bribe a member of wlug to make a copy of > their 7.3 disks in exchange for a free beer after the meeting tonight. > > unfortunately, 1. I don't drink beer and 2. I won't be able to attend, > otherwise I'd make a copy for you... > > Later, > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simoncini, Matthew [mailto:Matthew.Simoncini@bsci.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:55 PM > To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' > Subject: [Wlug] Burning ISO's > > > Hi everyone, > > I recently downloaded the iso's for Red Hat 7.3 and wanted to burn them to > CD so I can install the distro on my home PC. I've never burned iso's > before, so this is new to me. I have the following setup: > > Work PC running Windows 2000 w/ iso images for Red Hat 7.3 saved to hard > drive > CD Burner > Prassi PrimoCD Plus 2.0 burner software by Veritas > > From the little that I know, I understand that iso images need to be burned > in a certain way rather than just copied to a CD-ROM. Can anyone point me to > a site or a particular program for burning iso's? > > Thanks. > > Matthew > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 17, 2002

JavaScript Help

by Wesley Allen

OK, here is my hack of a function (I'll make it better later). Right now, it works in mozilla and Konqueror; but not IE. Anyone out there know Javascript well enough to tell me how to make this cross-browser? function changeMap(map) { if (map == 1) { document.bingo.setAttribute("usemap","#map1"); } else if(map == 2){ document.bingo.setAttribute("usemap","#map2"); } } Thanks, Wes

June 16, 2002

RedFlag Linux

by Andy Stewart

HI gang, I downloaded a copy of RedFlag Linux last night (straight from China) for a friend. I tried to run it on VMware, but it immediately wants to enable the frame buffer device and VMware doesn't seem to support that. On another old machine, it can't handle my ancient PAS16 SCSI controller as part of the installation process. I ran it part way on my laptop to get to the installation screen, so I know the CD works. (I have a low quality screenshot if anybody is interested). I'd be interested to see it running, even though I can't read Chinese. If anybody wants a copy, let me know and I'll make you one. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 16, 2002

Javascript Help

by Wesley Allen

Guys, My Javascript + dhtml has always been one great hack. And, unlike the other scripting languages I use (all open source) there just doesn't seem to be a great "javascript community" on the web. Just lots of free samples (yes, i've googled, maybe not enough). Here's my problem. I've got a table and I want one column to be used to display the different links in each area. If I mouse over "about us" I want the other table to display the links for that area. when I do this outside a table, I just create a bunch of <div>'s that are hidden, and just Javascript to make them visible and raise their z-index at the proper time (yes, terrible hack, my javascript sucks). In the table, I'm not sure how to "stack" the different <div>'s. I though relative positioning would do the trick, because the parent for all of the <div>'s should be the <td> tag, but instead the <div>'s relatively position to one another. So, I'm kinda stuck. Any help you can give would be great, web sites with tutorials are great too. Pre-made scripts are ok, but I'm actually trying to learn something here. Thanks, Wes

June 15, 2002

Fwd: GNHLUG Quarterly Meeting Rescheduled to 10 July 2002

by Andy Stewart

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: GNHLUG Quarterly Meeting Rescheduled to 10 July 2002 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 15:32:55 -0400 From: pll(a)lanminds.com To: gnhlug-announce(a)zk3.dec.com Hi all, Ximian has requested a rescheduling of our 26 June meeting to 10 July because Nat is unable to make the original date due to travelling conflict. Everyone who contacted me believed rescheduling the date was preferable to continuing without Nat and the Mono talk. For all those already registered, there is no need to re-register. If you will be unable to make the new 10 July date and have registered, please contact me privately at: pll+gnhlug at NoSpam lanminds dot com and I will remove you from the rsvp list. If you have not yet registered, and wish to do so, the registration form can be found here: http://md.appropriatesolutions.com/gnhlug/register.html I apologize for the inconvenience, and thanks for your co-operation. -- Seeya, Paul Paul Lussier Senior Systems and Network Engineer Co-Chairman, Greater New Hampshire Linux User's Group (GNHLUG) Chairman, Nashua Chapter GNHLUG http://www.gnhlug.org Events: http://md.appropriatesolutions.com/gnhlug/lug_cal/month.php ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 15, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Xmon / Serial cable

by Andy Stewart

> > You can probably buy a null modem cable at radio shack. It might also be > > sold as a lap-link serial cable. Be sure that the sex (protruding pins > > vs. recepticle) of the connector on the cable matches that on the > > computer you will connect to. Be careful here. A null modem cable and a laplink cable have different connections, as I found out the hard way when I wanted to get PLIP working between two Linux boxes. I did find websites that sell cables and spec the pinout. Regardless of what they call it, if you know the pinout, you're in business. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 15, 2002