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pine/mozilla/htmlview

by Bill Mills-Curran

I recently switched to mozilla 1.0, and I'm having problems getting pine to understand that I want to use mozilla as my URL viewer. In the pine setup, I set the URL viewer to a perl script that I wrote that then runs mozilla. (The script works fine when I run it separately.) When I view a URL in pine, I end up with the KDE browser. The output of "ps" shows that pine is running /usr/bin/htmlview instead of my perl script. Any idea why pine is ignoring my setup? TIA, Bill

July 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Looking for a home - 2 sparc classics

by desdinova＠soupforare.net

On 21 Jul 2002 at 12:42, stoffel(a)lucent.com wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I'm cleaning the garage and I want to get rid of stuff. I've got a > pair of sparc classics, probably installed with Linux, plus about 8 or > so brand new sun keyboards, somce mice and maybe other stuff. > > First one to email gets it all. I can try to bring it to the next > meeting, or we can arrange a pickup off list. I could use them, if they're not already gone Thanks, James KB1FJQ > John > stoffel(a)lucent.com > john(a)stoffel.org > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

July 21, 2002

Looking for a home - 2 sparc classics

by stoffel＠lucent.com

Hi guys, I'm cleaning the garage and I want to get rid of stuff. I've got a pair of sparc classics, probably installed with Linux, plus about 8 or so brand new sun keyboards, somce mice and maybe other stuff. First one to email gets it all. I can try to bring it to the next meeting, or we can arrange a pickup off list. John stoffel(a)lucent.com john(a)stoffel.org

July 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] booting off cd/floppy images

by Brian J.Conway

> Is there a way to add an entry in lilo to boot off a CD image, or floppy > image? If anyone sees another way to install linux, i'm all hears. Sure, just set your bootloader to point to the floppy image you want (not sure about using a CD image, that seems a bit large). I keep a copy of the Memtest86 floppy image accessible to Grub just in case: title Memtest86 kernel (hd0,2)/boot/memtest.bin Brian J. Conway bconway(a)wpi.edu "Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves." - Albert Einstein

July 20, 2002

booting off cd/floppy images

by Brad Noyes

Hi All, I have an intersting problem. I have a device (my old iopener) with linux installed and freeBSD (i dual boot). Both installs are really out of date, and i want to re-install linux, but i don't have a cdrom drive, or floppy drive. I only have network connection. Is there a way to add an entry in lilo to boot off a CD image, or floppy image? If anyone sees another way to install linux, i'm all hears. Thanks, --brad

July 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Brooklyn Bridge for sale on ebay!

by Wesley Allen

You're ahead of me Andy. I generate a key on the access-point and set my pc-card to it; and all of the sudden DCHP won't give me an address! Oh well, we've all got problems! Wes On Fri, 2002-07-19 at 23:35, Andy Stewart wrote: > > Starting bid: $10,000: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1749445282 > > Sorry, its off topic, but I really couldn't resist! > > Later, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Wireless question about WEP

by Charles R. Anderson

On Sat, Jul 20, 2002 at 06:12:27AM -0400, Josh Huber wrote: huber+sender+89031d> Umm, it's the encryption for WEP done in hardware by the wireless huber+sender+89031d> card? huber+sender+89031d> Or does this vary from card to card? I think it is possible for the driver to handle it in software if the hardware doesn't have 128-bit capability. I could be wrong... -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

July 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Wireless question about WEP

by Josh Huber

"Charles R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > Encryption slows things down. I guess something isn't well > implemented (WAP or 802.11b card). It shouldn't be THAT bad, > though. What is your CPU load when trying to load web pages? Umm, it's the encryption for WEP done in hardware by the wireless card? Or does this vary from card to card? -- Josh Huber

July 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Brooklyn Bridge for sale on ebay!

by Aaron Haviland

Andy Stewart said: > > Starting bid: $10,000: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1749445282 > > Sorry, its off topic, but I really couldn't resist! > > Later, > > Andy So far offtopic, my procmail rules put it in the wrong place :P -- Aaron Haviland orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org orion [at] parsed [dot] net +----------------------------------+ | Save $5.00 on your next purchase | ************** | of Froup or Diet Froup. Valid in | ***CamRafda*** | Galactic Sector ZZ9 Plural Z | ************** | Alpha. Expires: January 31, Y3K | +----------------------------------+

July 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Wireless question about WEP

by Charles R. Anderson

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 11:42:37PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: andystewart> The trouble arises when I try to use the link for something useful, like andystewart> surfing the web. Web pages come over very slowly if they complete at all. andystewart> On a wired system, the page comes over quickly, so its not the other end of andystewart> the Internet causing the problem. Encryption slows things down. I guess something isn't well implemented (WAP or 802.11b card). It shouldn't be THAT bad, though. What is your CPU load when trying to load web pages? andystewart> Also, I seem totally unable to make 128 or 256 bit encryption work at all (not andystewart> even a successful ping) despite the fact that both sides agree on the andystewart> password. For 128-bit WEP, make sure there are exactly 13 octets (26 hex digits). I know this comes out to 104 bits, but thats actually correct. Don't ask me how that makes it 128-bit...must be a salt in there or something. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

July 20, 2002

Wireless question about WEP

by Andy Stewart

Hi all, I got 64 bit encryption between my laptop and my access point working but there is a problem. The password is OK, and I can ping from my laptop to my network with 64-bit WEP enabled. Others on my network can ping the laptop without any problems. The trouble arises when I try to use the link for something useful, like surfing the web. Web pages come over very slowly if they complete at all. On a wired system, the page comes over quickly, so its not the other end of the Internet causing the problem. If I turn off WEP, everything is great. Also, I seem totally unable to make 128 or 256 bit encryption work at all (not even a successful ping) despite the fact that both sides agree on the password. What should I check? I am using the orinoco_cs driver in the 2.4.18 kernel. My hardware is the Linksys WPC11 (version 3.0) and the Linksys WAP11 version 2.2 Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

July 20, 2002

Brooklyn Bridge for sale on ebay!

by Andy Stewart

Starting bid: $10,000: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1749445282 Sorry, its off topic, but I really couldn't resist! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

July 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] How to set "-dpi 100" for X with kdm

by Andy Stewart

On Friday 19 July 2002 9:54 am, Aaron Haviland wrote: > > Perhaps /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc (or wherever your distro puts it)? I don't > know if *dms use it, but i'd think they probably would. mine says: > > #!/bin/sh > exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp Nope, that only works when you use startx as I've discovered. One right answer is to add "-dpi 100" to the tail end of the line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt07 -dpi 100 Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by Brad Noyes

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 01:24:05PM -0400, doug waud wrote: > Brad Noyes wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:39:48PM -0400, doug waud wrote: > > > Brad Noyes wrote: > > > > > > > > 512 byte chucks. > > > > > > How do you get the byte size of a chuck? > > just a guess. For some reason 512 bytes stuck in my head as a block size so i > > tried it and it worked. > > > > i did some more looking and i found some info on how tar handles things > > http://www.gnu.org/manual/tar/html_node/tar_130.html > > > > And this site give some good information on block sizes and tapes, under the > > "BLOCK SIZES" section > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/aix-faq/part2/section-1.html > > > > also in mt's man page, there is an option to set the block size (setblk), which > > only works for scsi tapes. > > > > > > > > For example, if we pipe Homic and/or Anderson to chucksize > > > what would the output be? > > > > > i don't understand what your asking here. > > I guess I should restate the question: > How do you guess the byte size of a chuck? :-) > > (I was using that typo to have fun with Homic and Anderson) > > Sorry, I did not intend to be taken seriously; normally nobody does! > :-) heheh, i didn't even notice that typo! I have a reputation at work for creating very subtle typos, which change the meaning of a sentence completely, in messages i send out to the whole company or department. oh well. i should have know that coming from you doug. --brad

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Wesley Allen

I installed freeswan, but didn't configure it correctly and all of the sudden I didn't have access to my lan (remember that e-mail I sent last week? that was the problem). When I have the time I'll sit down and read all about that and ipsec; but I can't right now. WEP is just this annoying buzz that I should be able to make work, and yet can't. It's annoying. I know it's cracked, but it's still annoying. Wes On Fri, 2002-07-19 at 10:28, Josh Huber wrote: > Wesley Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> writes: > > > Did you guys set up WEP? I know it's "encryption-lite" but right > > now I've only my wlan setup with mac address locking only because I > > can't get wep to work at all. > > I really recommend setting up IPsec. If you're using Linux, Free > S/WAN works well. Personally, it took me a few tries to get things > working, but once I did it turned out very well... > > > I actually had less trouble setting up wireless in linux than in > > windows! > > Yeah, a friend of mine who uses Windows told me how much of a pain in > the ass it was to set up wireless...For me it was quite simple (well, > except for the ipsec setup) > > -- > Josh Huber > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by Chuck Homic

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 01:24:05PM -0400, doug waud wrote: > I guess I should restate the question: > How do you guess the byte size of a chuck? :-) > > (I was using that typo to have fun with Homic and Anderson) Funny, no one who commits this typo seems to ever notice. A cow-orker of mine once said, "It's a lot of work, but I'll take a large chuck." And I continued the thread for a bit, discussing what chuck of work everyone would be doing and no one noticed. Incidentally, when I got email from Fr. Scanlon, I was often referred to as Chuch. Funny that finger memory. :) As long as it's not an upchuck joke... -Chunk

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by doug waud

Brad Noyes wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:39:48PM -0400, doug waud wrote: > > Brad Noyes wrote: > > > > > > 512 byte chucks. > > > > How do you get the byte size of a chuck? > just a guess. For some reason 512 bytes stuck in my head as a block size so i > tried it and it worked. > > i did some more looking and i found some info on how tar handles things > http://www.gnu.org/manual/tar/html_node/tar_130.html > > And this site give some good information on block sizes and tapes, under the > "BLOCK SIZES" section > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/aix-faq/part2/section-1.html > > also in mt's man page, there is an option to set the block size (setblk), which > only works for scsi tapes. > > > > > For example, if we pipe Homic and/or Anderson to chucksize > > what would the output be? > > > i don't understand what your asking here. I guess I should restate the question: How do you guess the byte size of a chuck? :-) (I was using that typo to have fun with Homic and Anderson) Sorry, I did not intend to be taken seriously; normally nobody does! :-) doug

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by Bill Smith

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:44:52 -0400 Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: TVD> I believe the chucksize would be one, even if they're different. TVD> It's like one of my WPI roommates who was always exactly one Pete TVD> tall. I guess that's a benefit of being the standard for a unit of TVD> measurement. Even if you change relative to everything else, you're TVD> still exactly one of your measurement unit in size. ...which is not to be confused with the Candy Bar Scale.... <evil grin> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com Therapy is expensive. Popping bubblewrap is cheap. You choose. * TAG! v3.0 *

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by Bill Smith

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:39:49 -0400 Brad Noyes <maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu> wrote: BN> On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:39:48PM -0400, doug waud wrote: BN> > Brad Noyes wrote: BN> > > BN> > > 512 byte chucks. BN> > BN> > How do you get the byte size of a chuck? BN> just a guess. For some reason 512 bytes stuck in my head as a block BN> size so i tried it and it worked. BN> BN> i did some more looking and i found some info on how tar handles BN> things http://www.gnu.org/manual/tar/html_node/tar_130.html BN> BN> And this site give some good information on block sizes and tapes, BN> under the"BLOCK SIZES" section BN> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/aix-faq/part2/section-1.html BN> BN> also in mt's man page, there is an option to set the block size BN> (setblk), which only works for scsi tapes. BN> BN> > BN> > For example, if we pipe Homic and/or Anderson to chucksize BN> > what would the output be? BN> > BN> i don't understand what your asking here. re-read what you said, then take a look at the man page. what you're referring to was BLOCK size, but you said "chuck".... <g> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com If you have the right attitude, interesting problems will find you. -- ESR * TAG! v3.0 *

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Bill Smith

On Fri, 19 Jul 2002 10:40:29 -0400 Theo Van Dinter <felicity(a)kluge.net> wrote: TVD> > BBQ host) has a 60" projection screen TV that he could connect to TVD> > his laptop. TVD> TVD> I do have S-Video out from the laptop ... ;) <drool> TVD> I hope no one minds that my laptop doesn't run Linux. It is TVD> running a version of BSD though. ;) the more i think of it, the more i'm convinced that OSX is the only thing that would convince me jump off the Linux bandwagon. for a while, anyway. ;) TVD> Randomly Generated Tagline: TVD> "Thinking of using NT for your critical apps? TVD> Isn't there enough suffering in the world?" - Sun Microsystems TVD> Ad i have a picture of this ad that i used to have on my cube wall when i worked at Cabletron. like a dolt, i forgot to grab the advert, and a former co-worker was kind enough to take a snapshot of it and email it to me.... <g> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com To err is human. To blame it on somebody else is even more human. * TAG! v3.0 *

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Charles R. Anderson

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 10:34:02AM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: felicity> It works very nicely on OS X as well. Tell the OS to use wireless, felicity> give it the WEP key, now I'm on the network. :) Oh, so that's what you meant by a "version of BSD" I guess we can forgive you :) -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 10:39:49AM -0400, Brad Noyes wrote: > > > 512 byte chucks. > > > > For example, if we pipe Homic and/or Anderson to chucksize > > what would the output be? > > > i don't understand what your asking here. I believe the chucksize would be one, even if they're different. It's like one of my WPI roommates who was always exactly one Pete tall. I guess that's a benefit of being the standard for a unit of measurement. Even if you change relative to everything else, you're still exactly one of your measurement unit in size. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Any similarity to person/persons now living to anyone or thing, dead or undead, is entirely accidental and just one more irrefutable proof of the paranormal." - From the 7th Guest

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 01:04:14AM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: > Although I haven't asked Theo directly (but he's out there somewhere!), this Yeah, I lurk around a lot. Dark shifty characters tend to like shadow. ;) > question did arise A few wireless laptops running VNC sessions from a host > which has Theo's slides (if he makes any) might do the trick. Well, to be honest I haven't quite figured out what to do for a presentation yet. I figured I'd be talking about what I do to deal with spam, and I was planning on slides and perhaps a "live" demo (or perhaps a local laptop demo would be sufficient...) > BBQ host) has a 60" projection screen TV that he could connect to his laptop. I do have S-Video out from the laptop ... ;) I hope no one minds that my laptop doesn't run Linux. It is running a version of BSD though. ;) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Thinking of using NT for your critical apps? Isn't there enough suffering in the world?" - Sun Microsystems Ad

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by Brad Noyes

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 09:39:48PM -0400, doug waud wrote: > Brad Noyes wrote: > > > > 512 byte chucks. > > How do you get the byte size of a chuck? just a guess. For some reason 512 bytes stuck in my head as a block size so i tried it and it worked. i did some more looking and i found some info on how tar handles things http://www.gnu.org/manual/tar/html_node/tar_130.html And this site give some good information on block sizes and tapes, under the "BLOCK SIZES" section http://www.faqs.org/faqs/aix-faq/part2/section-1.html also in mt's man page, there is an option to set the block size (setblk), which only works for scsi tapes. > > For example, if we pipe Homic and/or Anderson to chucksize > what would the output be? > i don't understand what your asking here. --brad

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 10:28:18AM -0400, Josh Huber wrote: > Yeah, a friend of mine who uses Windows told me how much of a pain in > the ass it was to set up wireless...For me it was quite simple (well, > except for the ipsec setup) It works very nicely on OS X as well. Tell the OS to use wireless, give it the WEP key, now I'm on the network. :) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." (Linus Torvalds about the superiority of Linux on the Amterdam Linux Symposium)

July 19, 2002