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Re: [Wlug] MTA for laptop?

by Chuck Homic

On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 12:55:14PM -0400, brad wrote: > How about delivery of mail? If you're using pop then probably most reads will > do. If your using imap, that's another story. Prolly a combination of IMAP and fetchmail(POP/IMAP). > How about interface, graphical, text based? mutt. :) See, I'm from the old skewl, where mail client != MTA. You know, the whole unix modular thing, where you should be able to take your favorite one and combine it with your favorite other and have it work. > I think that most mail readers will do what you explained as far as queueing > mail. I can't think of a read i've used that has not been able to do this. Well mutt is my example. It has no MTA capability, and right now I'm just using smtpclient to jam my mail to my provider's (work or cablemodem) SMTP server. That's on my desktop PCs at home and work. But for mobile use, I want something more badass. Chuck A. and Brad have indicated that sendmail can do all I want (if I can figure out how to make it do it all, which could be a fun project in itself!!) I know there are other options, though. qmail, exim, and probably others. Anyone know about these things, pros & cons & whatnot? -Chuck

Sept. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] MTA for laptop?

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 12:55:14PM -0400, brad wrote: maitre> How about delivery of mail? If you're using pop then probably most reads will maitre> do. If your using imap, that's another story. maitre> maitre> How about interface, graphical, text based? maitre> maitre> I think that most mail readers will do what you explained as far as queueing maitre> mail. I can't think of a read i've used that has not been able to do this. Those are MUA functions, not MTA functions. I would recommend fetchmail for accessing mail on a laptop. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Sept. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] MTA for laptop?

by brad

On Wednesday 25 September 2002 11:33 am, Chuck Homic wrote: > I probably have other demands, but that's all I can think of for now. How about delivery of mail? If you're using pop then probably most reads will do. If your using imap, that's another story. How about interface, graphical, text based? I think that most mail readers will do what you explained as far as queueing mail. I can't think of a read i've used that has not been able to do this.

Sept. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] MTA for laptop?

by Theo Van Dinter

On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 11:51:04AM -0400, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > I don't think you can fiddle with the smart relay host dynamically > though. Sure you can. Use mailertable. :) . smtp:your.local.relay.host.com Then makemap that. sendmail dynamically reads the resulting DB file. You could even rig it to add in other bits to force the mailer for certain domains depending on your location: foo.com smtp:mail.foo.com bar.com smtp:mail.bar.com -- Randomly Generated Tagline: linux: the choice of a GNU generation (ksh(a)cis.ufl.edu put this on Tshirts in '93)

Sept. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] MTA for laptop?

by Charles R. Anderson

Sendmail? Just use sendmail's default config, with no smart relay host. By default, it will use DNS MX records to determine the SMTP server to send to. You might want to use a BIND cacheing nameserver, too, so you can look things up while you are disconnected from the net (put 0.0.0.0 in /etc/resolv.conf). This will work anywhere that doesn't filter outbound SMTP connections. You can probably script something that will check for a network connection and force sendmail's queue to send when you connect. If you must use a smart relay host for SMTP outbound in certain places, then you can probably hook something into the DHCP client (use dhclient with it's dhclient-script hooks) to modify sendmail's configuration based on where you are connected. You'd need to change the "DS" line in /etc/sendmail.cf and then restart sendmail. I don't think you can fiddle with the smart relay host dynamically though. On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 11:33:52AM -0400, Chuck Homic wrote: chuck> Hey, guys. Got a flame war question for y'all, I guess. chuck> chuck> What's a good (or the best?) MTA to have on my laptop. Here's chuck> what I'd like to be able to do: -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Sept. 25, 2002

MTA for laptop?

by Chuck Homic

Hey, guys. Got a flame war question for y'all, I guess. What's a good (or the best?) MTA to have on my laptop. Here's what I'd like to be able to do: - Queue outgoing mail while offline, send while online (automatically, if possible... like, "Hey there's a network connection! I'll send all my queued mail!") - Automatically figure out the right way to send stuff based on the current network config. (If I'm at my office, it should use my local office SMTP server... at home, my cable provider.) - Bonus points if it attempts to deliver directly to hosts that will accept it, before falling back to my provider's SMTP. - Extra bonus points if it remembers what hosts won't accept mail directly from me and uses my provider's SMTP for those messages by default. I probably have other demands, but that's all I can think of for now. Maybe like if I'm on a dial up link, it would send small mail first? Stuff like that. Any ideas? -Chuck

Sept. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter Pipeline Networking

by Thomas Carey

Sept. 24, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter Pipeline Networking

by Michael Frysinger

> MF>we now do tech support for everyone ? :) > > it's good PR... <g> thnk about it... you want a (reasonably) straight > answer, but you don't want to be paying through the nose to be put on > hold. who would YOU talk to? i would have helped them too, i just found it humorous. -mike

Sept. 23, 2002

Practical replacements for Project.

by Keller, Tim

I recently purchased the codeweavers office suite and I'm really happy with it. Stat office did everything I needed except for two apps, Outlook and Project. Outlook works perfectly under it (as you can see) but I haven't found a suitable replacement for project. Does anybody have any suitable work arounds or solutions to getting it to work with project. (I've attempted an install but get stone walled with errors and have logged a ticket) Thanks, Tim.

Sept. 23, 2002

usb question

by Wes Allen

Hi all. MY usb ports used to work under linux in my HP notebook, it would hot-plug and everything. Now, it detects the devices I plug in, tries to register them, and then they disappear. I can acutally watch this with usb view. Any ideas what might be causing this? Wes

Sept. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter Pipeline Networking

by William Smith

On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, Michael Frysinger wrote: MF>we now do tech support for everyone ? :) it's good PR... <g> thnk about it... you want a (reasonably) straight answer, but you don't want to be paying through the nose to be put on hold. who would YOU talk to? MF>> The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! this bugger took forever for me to download (31.2k dialup connection. long story.) for Win* and Linux. well-worth the download, i think. i've been using it since a few days after it was released... -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com

Sept. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar?

by William Smith

On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Theo Van Dinter wrote: TVD>On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 09:13:25PM -0400, Michael Kingsbury wrote: TVD>> Who's the preferred name registrar now a days? TVD> TVD>I use OpenSRS (or a friend who's a reseller for them anyway), two TVD>thumbs up. make that FOUR thumbs up (Theo's two plus my two).... :) i use the same registrar Theo does (oddly enough at his recommendation). TVD>Register.com has annoyed me by sending "Your domain will be expiring TVD>soon, renew now!" postal mails, in a nasty slamming attempt since I've TVD>never used register.com. Thumb down. i get these too. i give two thumbs down on them.... 8\ -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com

Sept. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar?

by RB

I've been happy with www.gandi.net. About $12 a domain, no hassles, excellent service. - Rob On Friday 20 September 2002 09:30 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 09:13:25PM -0400, Michael Kingsbury wrote: > > Who's the preferred name registrar now a days? > > I use OpenSRS (or a friend who's a reseller for them anyway), two > thumbs up. > > I used Dotster without any complaints a year or two ago, one thumb up. > > Register.com has annoyed me by sending "Your domain will be expiring > soon, renew now!" postal mails, in a nasty slamming attempt since I've > never used register.com. Thumb down. > > Network Solutions has given me nothing but problems, not to mention that > their policies all suck. Two thumbs down. -- -= rb(a)millbury.net =-

Sept. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar?

by Gary Hanley

I was "given" namesbeyond.com when I grabbed hanley.net via snapnames.com on one impulsive spring day. I really can't say they are good ot bad not having a whole lot of experience with registrars...but I haven't had any problems with them. However, I am confused as to why there are so may registrars and how they all make money. -- Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kingsbury" <mike(a)beakerware.net> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:13 PM Subject: [Wlug] Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar? > Who's the preferred name registrar now a days? > > -mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Sept. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter Pipeline Networking

by Michael Frysinger

we now do tech support for everyone ? :) but yeah, Wes gave the most complete description ... i can't think of anything to add to it -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: <zimmguy(a)netscape.net> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 23:14 Subject: [Wlug] Charter Pipeline Networking > I was wondering what I am doing wrong? I have 2 PC's one with Win98 and one with WinME (I know they both suck... but beyond that). When Charter came they installed their software and modem to only one PC, (The other hadn't arrived yet). Now I am trying to network the two together, I have a HUB, and eithernet cards, and cables, is there some other piece of hardware I am missing? Or do I need some software support. In my area for charter to do anything it's 75 bucks a half hour to come out... all they left me with was a modem, and one small cord? Do I need software, or maybe just some configuration advice? Help please. > > __________________________________________________________________ > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Sept. 21, 2002

Charter Pipeline Networking

by zimmguy＠netscape.net

I was wondering what I am doing wrong? I have 2 PC's one with Win98 and one with WinME (I know they both suck... but beyond that). When Charter came they installed their software and modem to only one PC, (The other hadn't arrived yet). Now I am trying to network the two together, I have a HUB, and eithernet cards, and cables, is there some other piece of hardware I am missing? Or do I need some software support. In my area for charter to do anything it's 75 bucks a half hour to come out... all they left me with was a modem, and one small cord? Do I need software, or maybe just some configuration advice? Help please. __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Sept. 21, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar?

by webmaster - Atari Users Network

I like http://www.registerfly.com/ $9.99 1st year, 8.99 renewal and transfers. Check out the specials at http://www.theflypaper.com they usually have $1 off specials Comes with alot of free services also. Rob webmaster(a)atari-users.net -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Michael Kingsbury Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:13 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar? Who's the preferred name registrar now a days? -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar?

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 09:13:25PM -0400, Michael Kingsbury wrote: > Who's the preferred name registrar now a days? I use OpenSRS (or a friend who's a reseller for them anyway), two thumbs up. I used Dotster without any complaints a year or two ago, one thumb up. Register.com has annoyed me by sending "Your domain will be expiring soon, renew now!" postal mails, in a nasty slamming attempt since I've never used register.com. Thumb down. Network Solutions has given me nothing but problems, not to mention that their policies all suck. Two thumbs down. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: I didn't want a hokey second wedding like those ones on TV! This one's for real! -- Homer Simpson A Milhouse Divided

Sept. 21, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar?

by Tim Trachimowicz

I've had a bunch of luck with directnic.com - $15 reg per domain. --T -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Michael Kingsbury Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:13 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar? Who's the preferred name registrar now a days? -mike _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar?

by Michael Frysinger

i use dotster.com for {com,net,org,us,info,biz}domains for country TLD's, i use whatever is cheapest ;) -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kingsbury" <mike(a)beakerware.net> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 21:13 Subject: [Wlug] Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar? > Who's the preferred name registrar now a days? > > -mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Sept. 21, 2002

Slight O/T: Preferred Registrar?

by Michael Kingsbury

Who's the preferred name registrar now a days? -mike

Sept. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter Pipeline Networking

by Wes Allen

Get a router, like $49 or something. Uplug the cable modem. Plug in your ethernet cables to the router, configure it to work...DHCP WITH NAT. And set it up as a dhcp server. Plug back in your cable modem after you plug in it's ethernet cable to your router's wan port. You should now have eveything working. BTW, HP tech support told me to run a batch command yesterday to figure out why my cursed restore disk didnt' work any more. It ERASED MY PARTITION TABLE. I was ready to spit nails. The last back-up is a month old, that is my fault; but do you THINK that maybe you'd get a warning that you we're running more than just a diagnostic? I EXPLAINED that both OS's worked fine, but I was going to be resizing my XP partition and wanted to be able to start from scratch. But does anyone listen, no! So, they wanted me to send in my laptop to be "reimaged" I'd be without it for a week. It's bad enough that I've lost my books database (can't FIND that back up, I hate moving stuff around); but you want me to send in a laptop to get a bit changed on the bios so my computer will match the restore disk (a bios update created the incompatability)!!! Guess what you can do with THAT idea. I asked for a full version of XP to be sent to me, "I'm sorry, the license we have don't allow us to do that." I asked that if I sent in my laptop could I get it formatted in fat32 instead of blasted ntfs, "I'm sorry were not set up for that." The fex-ex guy came for my laptop and I said, "I'm sorry, it's not going anywhere." Guess what OS is no longer on my system? I am so fed up at being treated like a criminal by companies that I give my MONEY to that I'm not interested in playing anymore. I DO have win98 installed via win4lin, for ONE program; but hopefully even that will one day have a linux version. Here's and idea, we should have a "burn all your MS licenses day." I am so ticked off at this whole situation. And at myself for not backing up sooner. Wes On Friday 20 September 2002 23:14, zimmguy(a)netscape.net wrote: > I was wondering what I am doing wrong? I have 2 PC's one with Win98 and > one with WinME (I know they both suck... but beyond that). When Charter > came they installed their software and modem to only one PC, (The other > hadn't arrived yet). Now I am trying to network the two together, I have a > HUB, and eithernet cards, and cables, is there some other piece of hardware > I am missing? Or do I need some software support. In my area for charter > to do anything it's 75 bucks a half hour to come out... all they left me > with was a modem, and one small cord? Do I need software, or maybe just > some configuration advice? Help please. > > __________________________________________________________________ > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at > http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 20, 2002

RE: [Wlug] S3 Trio Linux Driver

by Haines, Charles Allen

Well, when i run xf86config, and select the card it tells me that it is unsupported. As for the X framebuffer, that sounds interesting, however I have no clue even how to start doing that. ----------------------------------------- Chuck Haines GDC Systems Administrator Infinity Complex Developer WPILA Lab Manager ----------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex ICQ: 3707881 Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 Cell: (410) 610-6343. ----------------------------------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice." -----Original Message----- From: Brian J.Conway [mailto:bconway@alum.wpi.edu] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 7:33 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] S3 Trio Linux Driver > Anyone know where I can find a linux driver for a S2 Trio32/64/64V+ > 86c764/765 for XFree4. I've searched all over and can't find > anything. Its not supported in Xfree4, but aparentally was supports > in 3.3.6. It is my understanding that the S3 and S3V were supported as of XFree86 4.2.0. I don't have any of those cards in use except in machines that are console-only, so I haven't tried it. If all else fails, you can always use the framebuffer X server with 4.x. Brian J. Conway bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu "Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves." - Albert Einstein _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 20, 2002

FS: Webramp 200i with 2nd modem

by RB

Cleaning house again... I've got a Webramp 200i with an internal modem and a second BOCA 56k modem (modems can be independently operated or bonded together if your ISP allows it) that I used before I got cable internet. Was working when it was taken out of service. Allows modem sharing with its internal 4 port hub. No docs or CD with it but easily found on the Web at: http://www.rampnet.com/rampnet/support/200i/index.html eBay is getting about $60 for them now. WLUG special!... First email committment for $30 and payment and pick up at my home in Worcester gets it. PayPal is welcomed, too. -- Rob PS - I also have two Webramp 700s in original boxes that I will also be selling. If anyone is interested in them, please make an offer. These units are from another source and were said to be working when I got them. I have not verified this though. I believe they have also VPN capability. http://www.rampnet.com/rampnet/support/700s/index.html -= rb(a)millbury.net =-

Sept. 20, 2002

RE: [Wlug] GPL Videos ...

by Marc Hughes

Some people learn things in different ways. If reading HOWTOS was the best way to do something, why do we have WLUG meetings? I wouldn't see these as being comprehensive overviews of whatever we're trying to teach, but more like a WLUG presentation where we show the beginnings of one "cool" thing. I think this would be great for people who have heard of linux, but never tried it out before... The real newbies, the people who don't want to wade through pages and pages of documentation just to get an idea of what they need to do. Take the first video that was suggested, "What is linux and why it's good" I think a 15 minute video can show linux off more than reading about it for hours. Another person had suggested advocacy style videos, I would assume this would be "built in" to any video we made. If we make one on how to set up a small business server (mail, file sharing, dhcp, dns), then we would also mention why it's better than other solutions. Hell, maybe that video could even be used by employees to help sell management (who doesn't want to read through *any* technical documentation) on the linux idea. And yes, this is a lot of work. I wouldn't expect us to do more than one video a month. Lets take 60 for n ... 15 minute video equals 15 man-hours of work. 5 people working on it means they'll have to spend a full work day a month (I'm assuming video production is like programming where you don't scale linearly by throwing more people at it). Besides, if we do one or two, and the work to usefulness ratio is too low, we quit. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: doug waud [mailto:douglas.waud@umassmed.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:05 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] GPL Videos ... Hi I've been listening to this thread and perhaps it is just generational disconnect but I cannot visualize what you could do with video that you could not do better with text/html/jpegs etc. Video is good if there is something to be viewed (for example, a trip to a foreign country, a beating heart in a Physiology course, the characteristic gait of a patient with Parkinson's disease, a football play etc.) But, in my experience, what you need if you are trying to learn how to do something, is usually a cookbook (this highlights a general weakness of man pages, they tend to leave out real-life examples). Furthermore, when something is textual, you and retrace easily and chose the pace. The problem now is that, if I am right, we would be competing with howtos! :-) Another problem is that, if Jeff's grandmother is like my wife (probably both about the same age), there is no way she is going to either watch a video or read a document on anything technical (This is a corollary of the advice to never give your wife a present which plugs in). So I'd like to ask those video enthusiasts out there to give a specific example of what a five/fifteen minute video might actually contain. doug PS Another hurdle I anticipate is that it usually takes n minutes to make 1 minute of good video where n is a large number :-( _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 20, 2002