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Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Bacon, John

One of the WPI NetOps Workstudies bought one. She likes it a lot. The ordering process took 42 days. JOHN -----Original Message----- From: David Glaser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 1:11 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Framework Laptops I ran across a laptop company called Framework https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fframe.wor… that sells an upgrade-able laptop. Has anyone had any experience with their products? -David -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.… _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… Change Settings: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… Web Forum/Archive: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Tim Keller

No worries. We did more talking about a whole range of stuff including the new wifi standard stuff than the pi music player. Also, if you did show up virtually, you'd have been frustrated. The room was way too big for the dinky mic I brought. I'm going to have to buy a good omni mic that I can put on a tripod in the middle of the room. Possibly a lav mic for the person speaking as well. Next month we will have a more organized presentation. Keegan, one of the guys who's new to the group had a bunch of great suggestions so it'll be a much better presentation for it. In talking to the people in the room, the idea of a stand alone FOSS music player was appealing to everybody. Also, John redoing his KiCAD demo was of interest as well. Tim. On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 8:19 AM hammerron via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I did want to get there, and in particular wanted to hear about the FOSS > pi based music player. Was all set to go and life got in the way at the > last minute. Hope it went well > > On 11/9/22 15:39, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: > >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > >> We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! > >> Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! > This is the big "gym" building > >> on the quad. > >> Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > >> Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music > player. > >> Time: 7pm > >> Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! > > I can't make it, I've got scouts and thetre rehearsal. Enjoy all! > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/CFGXW… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/D2X7C… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by hammerron

I did want to get there, and in particular wanted to hear about the FOSS pi based music player. Was all set to go and life got in the way at the last minute. Hope it went well On 11/9/22 15:39, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! >> Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This is the big "gym" building >> on the quad. >> Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA >> Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music player. >> Time: 7pm >> Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! > I can't make it, I've got scouts and thetre rehearsal. Enjoy all! > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/CFGXW…

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Tim Keller

Hey everybody! So the meeting was good, but we need to work some kinks out with the A/V. The video was good, but the audio was definitely something to be desired. I'm going to work on getting some better omni directional mics for future meetings. Beyond that we had a very interesting conversation about the future of wifi with the 6e and 7 standards. We also delved a bit into some FOSS alternatives to popular commerial products like discord and options for unencumbered music players. Later, Tim. On Wed, Nov 9, 2022, 4:56 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Tonight is also going to be a test of my A/V setup. I've got a dedicated > laptop, with tripod and webcam. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:39 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> > We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! >> > Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! >> This is the big "gym" building >> > on the quad. >> > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA >> >> > Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music >> player. >> > Time: 7pm >> > Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! >> >> I can't make it, I've got scouts and thetre rehearsal. Enjoy all! >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". >

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Tim Keller

Tonight is also going to be a test of my A/V setup. I've got a dedicated laptop, with tripod and webcam. Thanks, Tim. On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:39 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! > > Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This > is the big "gym" building > > on the quad. > > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > > > Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music > player. > > Time: 7pm > > Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! > > I can't make it, I've got scouts and thetre rehearsal. Enjoy all! > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 9, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! > Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This is the big "gym" building > on the quad. > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music player. > Time: 7pm > Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! I can't make it, I've got scouts and thetre rehearsal. Enjoy all!

Nov. 9, 2022

Re: [EXT] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Tim Keller

It's the Recreation Center, NOT the student center. From the covered garage go up the big flight of stairs and it's on the right. Thanks, Tim. On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 6:51 PM Doug Mildram via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > doug> Correct, Rec Center. > I can't make it in person being 2.x hours away now :) > But in my last professional turf, WPI NetOps. This room has the > most confusing name, for the Class of 1961. > I think it's on the top floor (4th if i recall, most enter on floor 2) > ... far RH corner ? > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 6:40 PM Kuhn, Keegan via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> Is this the WPI Recreation Center, or a different campus/place in >> Worcester? >> >> -- >> Thank you, >> Keegan K. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> *Sent:* Monday, November 7, 2022 3:42 PM >> *To:* Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion < >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> *Cc:* Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> >> *Subject:* [EXT] [WLUG] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: >> Rec Center Rm 61 >> >> Hey Everybody, >> >> We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! >> Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This >> is the big "gym" building on the quad. >> Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA >> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeet.jit.…> >> >> Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music >> player. >> Time: 7pm >> Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! >> >> See you there! >> Later, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/MKTRR… >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/YSQ53… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 9, 2022

Re: [EXT] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Doug Mildram

doug> Correct, Rec Center. I can't make it in person being 2.x hours away now :) But in my last professional turf, WPI NetOps. This room has the most confusing name, for the Class of 1961. I think it's on the top floor (4th if i recall, most enter on floor 2) ... far RH corner ? On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 6:40 PM Kuhn, Keegan via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Is this the WPI Recreation Center, or a different campus/place in > Worcester? > > -- > Thank you, > Keegan K. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > *Sent:* Monday, November 7, 2022 3:42 PM > *To:* Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > *Cc:* Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > *Subject:* [EXT] [WLUG] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: > Rec Center Rm 61 > > Hey Everybody, > > We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! > Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This > is the big "gym" building on the quad. > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeet.jit.…> > > Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music > player. > Time: 7pm > Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! > > See you there! > Later, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/MKTRR… >

Nov. 8, 2022

Re: [EXT] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Kuhn, Keegan

Is this the WPI Recreation Center, or a different campus/place in Worcester? -- Thank you, Keegan K. ________________________________ From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 3:42 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61 Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This is the big "gym" building on the quad. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeet.jit.…> Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music player. Time: 7pm Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! See you there! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 8, 2022

Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This is the big "gym" building on the quad. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music player. Time: 7pm Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! See you there! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 7, 2022

Re: November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm.

by Joel

Also a scout dad + leader, leading the teenage iPhone generation every Wednesday night in my town. Just another 2.5 years for my son so it's *knot* a big long term concern. Lol Will catch up on the next one I can make. Joel On November 4, 2022 2:46:44 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> I unfortunately have a conflict on the 10th and the 17th! > > I'm going to be missing these meetings too, I've got scouts on > wednesday nights, but also a theatre show if "Cinderella" at Callioper > Theatre in Boyston first two weekends of December for the show. > >> I'm moving the meeting to the 9th. A couple of people have pulled me aside and asked about moving >> the meeting to Wednesday.. you've gotten your wish. As usual, the meeting will be online (now with >> new and improved A/V tech!) > >> We'll obviously be talking about the heartbleed bug.. Linux kernel 6.0 among other things! >> More details to come! >> Thanks, >> Tim. > >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/6XHGM… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/QMJO5…

Nov. 4, 2022

Re: November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm.

by John Stoffel

> I unfortunately have a conflict on the 10th and the 17th! I'm going to be missing these meetings too, I've got scouts on wednesday nights, but also a theatre show if "Cinderella" at Callioper Theatre in Boyston first two weekends of December for the show. > I'm moving the meeting to the 9th. A couple of people have pulled me aside and asked about moving > the meeting to Wednesday.. you've gotten your wish. As usual, the meeting will be online (now with > new and improved A/V tech!) > We'll obviously be talking about the heartbleed bug.. Linux kernel 6.0 among other things! > More details to come! > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/6XHGM…

Nov. 4, 2022

Re: November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm.

by Tim Keller

The Nov 9th meeting will be in person. I've reached out to Frank to clarify in which room. The meeting will also be online as well. Thanks, Tim. On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 10:04 AM THE HAMMER via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Will the Nov 9th meeting be on line only, or also in person. If also in > person, what location? > > > Ron > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:16 PM > *To:* Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > *Cc:* Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > *Subject:* [WLUG] November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm. > > Hey Gang! > > I unfortunately have a conflict on the 10th and the 17th! > I'm moving the meeting to the 9th. A couple of people have pulled me aside > and asked about moving the meeting to Wednesday.. you've gotten your wish. > As usual, the meeting will be online (now with new and improved A/V tech!) > > We'll obviously be talking about the heartbleed bug.. Linux kernel 6.0 > among other things! > More details to come! > Thanks, > Tim. > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/EJD4S… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 4, 2022

Re: November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm.

by THE HAMMER

Hi Tim, Will the Nov 9th meeting be on line only, or also in person. If also in person, what location? Ron ________________________________ From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:16 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Subject: [WLUG] November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm. Hey Gang! I unfortunately have a conflict on the 10th and the 17th! I'm moving the meeting to the 9th. A couple of people have pulled me aside and asked about moving the meeting to Wednesday.. you've gotten your wish. As usual, the meeting will be online (now with new and improved A/V tech!) We'll obviously be talking about the heartbleed bug.. Linux kernel 6.0 among other things! More details to come! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 4, 2022

Re: Framework Laptops

by Chris (wolcen) Thompson

Hi all, I asked about it when I got home tonight and there were a few comments: - The one item that has been a distraction to him is that the fan ramps up on occasion (for no apparent reason). I have noticed the fan noise myself at times - it's not the quietest @ 100%. He blames something in Garuda, but hasn't nailed down what it is yet (KDE on a Core 12th gen). If I were to run `stress --cpu 16` on my T14 AMD 2nd Gen, I won't hear my fan over his despite sitting at our own computers. - He got the DIY version and REALLY appreciated the build experience. Everything that's good about the framework really stands out when you put one together. I've helped him change a video card in the past - he's not a huge hardware geek, but got this together with zero issue. Everything has a QR code for getting directly to instructions if you need them. - Frame.work has successfully transitioned from 11th gen to 12th so far, successfully keeping the frame, etc. A neat thing about this is that there are community designs (i.e. printable cases) allowing you to build an SFF PC based on your previous gen mainboard, should you upgrade. - There are decent community forum pages covering various distros on framework's site. The arch page (as is so often the case) is a great help for finding a consolidated list of tweaks you may need. - One thing that may be noteworthy to people not fond of using wireless networking when they don't have to is that the 2.5Gbit/s Ethernet adapter (which was only recently released) sticks out the side. I believe it's the only module that does. I guess it's whatever...they are easy enough to swap out when you want to get to a better "on the go mode". It's an RTL8156 and should work fine (linux 5.13+). Wireless has been great. - He recommends checking out the LTT video(s) on it and said their review matches his perception, though none of the minor qualms they had about the device have been concerns for him (links below). - The screen frame didn't review all that well from LTT. They did since change the design for the 12th gen ( https://knowledgebase.frame.work/explainer-lid-rigidity-hinge-force-the-cnc… ). It feels pretty comparable to my T14, but I'm pretty sure he'd have a fair bit easier task changing his than I would, should it ever actually be necessary. - He got this laptop about a month and a half ago, so not much more we can offer about reliability. I'd scan their forums. LTT videos (note, Linus did invest nearly $250k in Frame.work): https://www.youtube.com/c/LinusTechTips/search?query=frame.work There was another recent LTT video (a quick take or something like that) about an HP laptop. It seems that perhaps the framework may be having some impact on other manufacturer's repairability? NOT the same as upgrading the mainboard, but still a good thing: LTT (sponsored by HP) video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8lsUvil_S8 Enjoy! Chris On 11/3/22 15:48, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > I might be in the market for a new laptop soon and this definitely > goes on the list. > > Chris, what has your roomates experience been with the durability? > Tim. > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 1:38 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > They are quite good. My housemate/coworker got one. We work > exclusively > in free software. He put Garuda on it and has full functionality, but > did have to do a tweak or two. He got the 12th gen, and purchased > ram/ssd separately (they price those pretty high). > > Regards, > Chris > > On 11/3/22 13:11, David Glaser via WLUG wrote: > > I ran across a laptop company called Framework > > > > https://frame.work/ > > > > that sells an upgrade-able laptop. > > > > Has anyone had any experience with their products? > > > > -David > > > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/7W6L2… > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list --wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email towlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account:https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings:https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive:https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org…

Nov. 4, 2022

November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm.

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang! I unfortunately have a conflict on the 10th and the 17th! I'm moving the meeting to the 9th. A couple of people have pulled me aside and asked about moving the meeting to Wednesday.. you've gotten your wish. As usual, the meeting will be online (now with new and improved A/V tech!) We'll obviously be talking about the heartbleed bug.. Linux kernel 6.0 among other things! More details to come! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 4, 2022

Re: Framework Laptops

by Robert Krawitz

On 11/3/22 15:48, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > I might be in the market for a new laptop soon and this definitely goes on the list. If only they made a workstation version with a 17" screen and lots of storage slots (preferably a mix of 2.5" and M.2)...

Nov. 3, 2022

Re: Framework Laptops

by Tim Keller

I might be in the market for a new laptop soon and this definitely goes on the list. Chris, what has your roomates experience been with the durability? Tim. On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 1:38 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > They are quite good. My housemate/coworker got one. We work exclusively > in free software. He put Garuda on it and has full functionality, but > did have to do a tweak or two. He got the 12th gen, and purchased > ram/ssd separately (they price those pretty high). > > Regards, > Chris > > On 11/3/22 13:11, David Glaser via WLUG wrote: > > I ran across a laptop company called Framework > > > > https://frame.work/ > > > > that sells an upgrade-able laptop. > > > > Has anyone had any experience with their products? > > > > -David > > > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/7W6L2… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 3, 2022

Re: Framework Laptops

by Chris Thompson

They are quite good. My housemate/coworker got one. We work exclusively in free software. He put Garuda on it and has full functionality, but did have to do a tweak or two. He got the 12th gen, and purchased ram/ssd separately (they price those pretty high). Regards, Chris On 11/3/22 13:11, David Glaser via WLUG wrote: > I ran across a laptop company called Framework > > https://frame.work/ > > that sells an upgrade-able laptop. > > Has anyone had any experience with their products? > > -David > >

Nov. 3, 2022

Framework Laptops

by David Glaser

I ran across a laptop company called Framework https://frame.work/ that sells an upgrade-able laptop. Has anyone had any experience with their products? -David -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com

Nov. 3, 2022

Re: !!!! Reminder!!! Wlug Meeting Oct 13th @7PM: Topic: Fotoxx, Speaker: Dick Miller, Location: WPI Mid Century Room.

by Dick Miller

But wait, Tim! I want /my/ turn to apologize, too! My training as a physicist demands a /full/ analysis - and hopefully, /one or more potential solutions/. :-) Jill and I had planned to present the wonders of Fotoxx from our home in Natick, where a big TV screen and the Internet are readily available. About 5:30PM, Jill had mostly prepared our dinner and was about to slide it into the microwave oven. I was checking for late-afternoon e-mail, and read this short message (sent 5:05PM, but who's counting?): "See you there tonight, in person!" What say? /In person? /Well, there's just about time to do that... I ran down to the kitchen to consult with The Boss, and we decided to Go For It. I e-mailed back (sent 5:43PM, but who's counting?): "CU there! Have computer, will travel." Jill disassembled our dinner, as I assembled trusty Dicknote (my laptop) and a few accessories, chucked them into a shoulder bag, and we were off - into unusually thick 6PM stop-and-go traffic. That's when it started raining hard; almost the entire trip was tense driving. We arrived about 7PM, knowing where the meeting was but not where we were to park the car. We eventually parked in a big garage and, as person after person referred us onward, found a nice young lady who sketched us a map of our hike-to-be through the rainy WPI quadrangle and -- well, we arrived somewhat later than any of us had expected. Not good, but we /were/ there. We quickly set up for our Fotoxx demo. That's when I discovered that my laptop accessories did /not/ include /a critical HDMI adapter for Dicknote's display port/. My goof - in a hurry and under pressure, but my goof. With WLUG's help, we found an alternate adapter that failed to work, tried a loaned laptop with a hard-for-me-to-handle different GUI, tried running my favorite */Ubuntu-Unity 22.04 LTS/* <https://ubuntuunity.org/> in that laptop's RAM (booting from my */Ventoy thumb drive/* <https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html>), and finally gave up. I ran the rest of the presentation from Dicknote, without my normal link to the room's big screen, to the Internet, and to so many of you. Folks in the room sat close by, looked over my shoulder, and tried Fotoxx themselves as, with frazzled nerves, I presented about half of what I'd intended. And that, said the physicist, is /why/ we were online so very briefly. *The Physicist's Phyx:**A check list*, printed on paper but as if carved into stone, for the items to be In The Bag for talks: /Dicknote, appropriate power supply, Ventoy thumb drive w/appropriate demo software aboard, at least one //*Display Port to HDMI Adapter <https://www.ebay.com/itm/133428969803>*//. Long HDMI cable, Tux penguin and other interesting goodies optional. A dime for phone call home, and an emergency parachute. Keep copies of said check list in carrying bag, in wallet, and in head. Keep the computer version of same, and copy it into each appropriate calendar entry./ Carrying case closed! Sorry about that! "The Kingdom was lost, all for the want of a two-penny nail!" Well, what with the falling dubloon, about $2 today. We sell these mighty HP EliteBook laptops (14" 2560x1440 display, Core i7 CPU, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD and more, plus power supply /and that critical //Display Port adapter)/ populated with Ubuntu-Unity's Linux OS and vast amounts of FOSS with more on tap) all for about $700. So, /we stock that display port-to-HDMI adapter/; had we stayed home (he said, ruefully), all would have gone well. Well, we did enjoy meeting some of you, but... For*second prize*, I offer you these: 1. You can read a detailed description of Fotoxx and download various flavors of the latest Fotoxx 22.35 from Mike Cornelison's home base <https://kornelix.net/fotoxx/fotoxx.html>. 2. From within that Fotoxx article, I recommend downloading the appropriate /appimage/ package. Right-click on it, click on Properties > Permissions and click to check the box to make it executable. Close that window, double-click the appimage icon, wait a minute, and you'll have Fotoxx up and running in RAM - even after a Suspend, until you Close it or power down! You can try out Fotoxx and, when/if you wish, double-click its Install Fotoxx icon to add it to your computer's riches (from which it will load quite quickly). 3. You'll have its copious Help documentation aboard (even with the in-RAM version) and, in any Fotoxx operation, you can tap the F1 key to get specific documentation on /that/ operation. I think most of you can adjust its settings to find YOUR Pictures folder, etc. 4. Several of you already have reported early success and interest, and I welcome such messages. 5. Think you're getting good at the many instant capabilities of Fotoxx? Then you're ready to try *my challenge*. Starting with this unpromisingsmartphone through-the-windshield sunset grab shot: Fotoxx enabled me to quickly and accurately convert it into this (rather like our WPI drive might have been): If you choose to accept this challenge, upon your request I'll e-mail you the smartphone's full-sized (4160x2340x8) grab shot. Last, but not least, *Mike Cornelison's own 54-min. Fotoxx Demo And Tutorial <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Kwnr4TrwM>* will reveal far, far more of its wonders than I did in twice that time. Gentlemen, start your Fotoxxen! Cheers from --Dick Miller, Partner, MMS <TheMillers(a)millermicro.com> Co-Leader, FOSS User Group in Natick (NatickFOSS.org) <http://millermicro.com/FOSSUserGroupNatick.html> <-Click here to learn about our VIRTUAL MEETINGS, join, or view later! -- *| A. Richard & Jill A. Miller | MILLER MICROCOMPUTER SERVICES | | Mailto:TheMillers@millermicro.com | 61 Lake Shore Road | | Web: http://www.millermicro.com/ | Natick, MA 01760-2099, USA | | Voice: 508/653-6136, 9AM-9PM -0400(EDT)| NMEA N 42.29993°, W 71.36558° |* Sent from an awesome, inexpensive, non-proprietary <https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/>, no-lock-in, no-bloatware, virus-resistant, free open-source software, /Linux/ <http://NatickFOSS.org/> PC - with /Ubuntu-Unity 22.04.1 LTS/ <https://ubuntuunity.org> and /Fotoxx 22.35/ <http://www.kornelix.net/fotoxx/fotoxx.html> making the most of the tiny camera within a Samsung Galaxy A53 5G smartphone <https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-a53-5g-review-3149923/>. On 10/14/22 12:55, Tim Keller wrote: > I'd like to apologize for the online meeting failure last night. > > Going forward our Jitsi game is going to have to be upped a bit. To > this end, I'm putting together a wlug "go-bag" that'll have a tripod, > a dedicated camera/mic and a laptop to run the whole shabang. Along > with that I'm going to toss in a whole bevy of "X to HDMI" adapters as > well as our own nice long HDMI cables, etc. > > This will eliminate delays in dealing with the student center, allow > for seamless virtual meetings, and properly record them to put up on > the youtube channel. > > Thanks for your understanding, > Tim. > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 10:52 AM Keith Wright via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > Patrick McEvilly via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > We lost the room on the web call. Will you guys be back on tonight? > > Right. That didn't work well. I was on jitsi within > minutes of 7pm. At first I thought I had technical > problems because I couldn't see or hear anybody. > A few minutes and a few named rectangles showed up, > including the all important "WLUG Meeting". > > But the guest speaker was not there. It was noisy and > hard to hear anyone who was not near the mike. Around > 7:30 there was talk of booting from a flash drive and > then "WLUG Meeting" vanished. There were three of us > left, me and two rectangles named jstone and PMcEvilly. > We talked a bit about our computers, but didn't really > have much to say. At 8pm the computer that runs ntpd > (NetTimePro) said it was time to move along. > > This is not a gripe, it's a bug report. Jitsi actually > seemed to work better from the public library. This > is a bit frightening. WPI has been teaching over > video chat for years. We did video chat meetings > with the equipment in the student center back in > the Andy Stewart days. > > > Patrick McEvilly via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > Will you guys be back on tonight? > > I'm not sure what to make of that question. > WLUG meetings are traditionally 1/month. > On the other hand, I think the jitsi room > is open all the time. > > -- Keith, Programmer in Chief, > http://www.free-comp-shop.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/F2QEQ… > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 15, 2022

Re: !!!! Reminder!!! Wlug Meeting Oct 13th @7PM: Topic: Fotoxx, Speaker: Dick Miller, Location: WPI Mid Century Room.

by Doug Mildram

doug/dmildram, former WPI dude/netops but now in Maine> Just wanted to say .............(yea right, as I type a long windy rant) ...............the effort+result of everyone's contributions are truly "all good" and appreciated! yes, jitsi totally rocks from my limited-use view. Recorded meetings are very cool! Both my 2 piles of PICtures/jpg's , as well as the muzak/mp3's in my personal/(~20-40g) stash of precious/home data.... are indeed in need of a brainy front end. Hating Rhythmbox front end for mp3's though it plays all my mp3's correctly w/o weird play/stutter,etc issues. I know there's a slew of media players, both audio and image/video. And, I do love vlc , yet need to learn more of its capabilities and improve my ease of use, plus fix my command-line-launch no-go/problem I'm having. (AUDIO only of course? I'm seeing that vlc even gets into images.....) but will not divert into an audio whine/discuss here. FOR PICTURES: I don't know you, for example, Lexi who just posted/replied re: fotoxx, but I really dug your DIY-brain story, building from source, = how we/dinosaurs used to do stuff until it got harder over decades :) Back to PICS/IMAGES pursuits in detail, fotoxx seems to be a viewer (mostly?) for a personal stash/giant-or-smaller-album. Can it auto-or-manually tweak/compress jpg's to save space without losing much quality? (I'm gimp-ignorant...gimp probably does, it's obviously a tweaker not viewer? tool, i.e. ...one image at a time. Tangent or not: I hated myself for continuing to use a windows program (ACDsee, i bought a license decades ago, back when you could buy a cheap license) ...........which very quickly cropped+downsized images greatly like 5-10x smaller. Being MB-stingy,.I got into the habit of trimming saved-pics. Until I admitted it was too much work, cuz i never learned to trim easily on linux ... Hated myself cuz I'm almost done w windozeMS but for 1 or 2 things! (last to die in my world, win7 for me == important for tax-filing software. Well, i rambled too much. Welcoming more pics/images/fotoxx feedback though. I'm gonna dig into fotoxxx pretty soon i think. Since there's no recording of this week's meeting, maybe we can be a bit noiser on the list this month! -- doug On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 12:55 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I'd like to apologize for the online meeting failure last night. > > Going forward our Jitsi game is going to have to be upped a bit. To this > end, I'm putting together a wlug "go-bag" that'll have a tripod, a > dedicated camera/mic and a laptop to run the whole shabang. Along with that > I'm going to toss in a whole bevy of "X to HDMI" adapters as well as our > own nice long HDMI cables, etc. > > This will eliminate delays in dealing with the student center, allow for > seamless virtual meetings, and properly record them to put up on the > youtube channel. > > Thanks for your understanding, > Tim. > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 10:52 AM Keith Wright via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >> Patrick McEvilly via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> > We lost the room on the web call. Will you guys be back on tonight? >> >> Right. That didn't work well. I was on jitsi within >> minutes of 7pm. At first I thought I had technical >> problems because I couldn't see or hear anybody. >> A few minutes and a few named rectangles showed up, >> including the all important "WLUG Meeting". >> >> But the guest speaker was not there. It was noisy and >> hard to hear anyone who was not near the mike. Around >> 7:30 there was talk of booting from a flash drive and >> then "WLUG Meeting" vanished. There were three of us >> left, me and two rectangles named jstone and PMcEvilly. >> We talked a bit about our computers, but didn't really >> have much to say. At 8pm the computer that runs ntpd >> (NetTimePro) said it was time to move along. >> >> This is not a gripe, it's a bug report. Jitsi actually >> seemed to work better from the public library. This >> is a bit frightening. WPI has been teaching over >> video chat for years. We did video chat meetings >> with the equipment in the student center back in >> the Andy Stewart days. >> >> Patrick McEvilly via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> > Will you guys be back on tonight? >> >> I'm not sure what to make of that question. >> WLUG meetings are traditionally 1/month. >> On the other hand, I think the jitsi room >> is open all the time. >> >> -- Keith, Programmer in Chief, >> http://www.free-comp-shop.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/F2QEQ… >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/XGCFN… >

Oct. 14, 2022

Re: !!!! Reminder!!! Wlug Meeting Oct 13th @7PM: Topic: Fotoxx, Speaker: Dick Miller, Location: WPI Mid Century Room.

by Tim Keller

I'd like to apologize for the online meeting failure last night. Going forward our Jitsi game is going to have to be upped a bit. To this end, I'm putting together a wlug "go-bag" that'll have a tripod, a dedicated camera/mic and a laptop to run the whole shabang. Along with that I'm going to toss in a whole bevy of "X to HDMI" adapters as well as our own nice long HDMI cables, etc. This will eliminate delays in dealing with the student center, allow for seamless virtual meetings, and properly record them to put up on the youtube channel. Thanks for your understanding, Tim. On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 10:52 AM Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Patrick McEvilly via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > We lost the room on the web call. Will you guys be back on tonight? > > Right. That didn't work well. I was on jitsi within > minutes of 7pm. At first I thought I had technical > problems because I couldn't see or hear anybody. > A few minutes and a few named rectangles showed up, > including the all important "WLUG Meeting". > > But the guest speaker was not there. It was noisy and > hard to hear anyone who was not near the mike. Around > 7:30 there was talk of booting from a flash drive and > then "WLUG Meeting" vanished. There were three of us > left, me and two rectangles named jstone and PMcEvilly. > We talked a bit about our computers, but didn't really > have much to say. At 8pm the computer that runs ntpd > (NetTimePro) said it was time to move along. > > This is not a gripe, it's a bug report. Jitsi actually > seemed to work better from the public library. This > is a bit frightening. WPI has been teaching over > video chat for years. We did video chat meetings > with the equipment in the student center back in > the Andy Stewart days. > > Patrick McEvilly via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > Will you guys be back on tonight? > > I'm not sure what to make of that question. > WLUG meetings are traditionally 1/month. > On the other hand, I think the jitsi room > is open all the time. > > -- Keith, Programmer in Chief, > http://www.free-comp-shop.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/F2QEQ… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Oct. 14, 2022

Re: !!!! Reminder!!! Wlug Meeting Oct 13th @7PM: Topic: Fotoxx, Speaker: Dick Miller, Location: WPI Mid Century Room.

by Keith Wright

Patrick McEvilly via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > We lost the room on the web call. Will you guys be back on tonight? Right. That didn't work well. I was on jitsi within minutes of 7pm. At first I thought I had technical problems because I couldn't see or hear anybody. A few minutes and a few named rectangles showed up, including the all important "WLUG Meeting". But the guest speaker was not there. It was noisy and hard to hear anyone who was not near the mike. Around 7:30 there was talk of booting from a flash drive and then "WLUG Meeting" vanished. There were three of us left, me and two rectangles named jstone and PMcEvilly. We talked a bit about our computers, but didn't really have much to say. At 8pm the computer that runs ntpd (NetTimePro) said it was time to move along. This is not a gripe, it's a bug report. Jitsi actually seemed to work better from the public library. This is a bit frightening. WPI has been teaching over video chat for years. We did video chat meetings with the equipment in the student center back in the Andy Stewart days. Patrick McEvilly via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Will you guys be back on tonight? I'm not sure what to make of that question. WLUG meetings are traditionally 1/month. On the other hand, I think the jitsi room is open all the time. -- Keith, Programmer in Chief, http://www.free-comp-shop.com/

Oct. 14, 2022

Re: !!!! Reminder!!! Wlug Meeting Oct 13th @7PM: Topic: Fotoxx, Speaker: Dick Miller, Location: WPI Mid Century Room.

by Lexi Haley

Thank you Dick for the talk tonight ( so much as I was able to stay for ) - your enthusiasm for linux advocacy and outreach was recognizable; and I enjoyed romping around your website - I wonder if your Canopus star-tracker work in the 60s had any outputs still in use on the Voyagers (some 14.6 billion miles away now...)! Sorry I had to leave early, but I arrived home interested to check it out. I use TinyCore linux on my daily driver laptop (Dell Latitude (c) 2012), which didn't have fotoxx in its package manager - so I built it from the source packages on https://kornelix.net/fotoxx/fotoxx.html. Incidentally, there is a LONG OVERVIEW section on that page which combined with your talk offered me more description of the features. Once I built it I began checking it out. It absolutely suggests a talented and devoted developer; it is quirky and polished in my novitiate eyes. First off - from the building side - I observe it is a collection of executables - Michael Cornelison the author certainly has been hard at work - cloc says: github.com/AlDanial/cloc v 1.95 T=1.51 s (33.2 files/s, 118058.5 lines/s) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Language files blank comment code ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- C++ 31 38465 16842 118237 C/C++ Header 4 540 230 2798 make 11 111 60 634 Text 1 11 0 47 CSS 3 35 33 19 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUM: 50 39162 17165 121735 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It wasn't difficult to build - I made it into a TinyCore Linux package and then loaded it up. Initially it attempted to tackle my entire drive, but crashed (a corrupt PNG took it down during the indexing); I then aimed it at a media specific folder, and I was surprised to see it creating thumbnails for mp4 movies - ultimately these files are just easily launched into VLC by a keystroke. Things I like - I like the Map view - I like seeing the thumb-tack indication of where my photos' geotags point. I like the Gallery's balance between fast thumbnails and some brief metadata - and I like that folders are shown with a count of inner images and folders -a nice sort of bread crumbs. I also like the prepackaged set of effects and filters - For instance Voodoo 1 applied to one of my photos created a nice effect. I'm sure these features bring powerful image editing techniques into more hands more easily than something with a steeper learning curve (say GIMP). I'm not sure it is about to become my go-to software though. I have been a long time GIMP user and so appreciate the skill I already possess therein. However, it does remind me that I desire a better gallery experience - formerly I used to use F-Spot Photo Manager, but that seems to be in-between working builds for some time ... So, I am not sure what my next step will be, but I again thank you for tonight's romp through Fotoxx! Best of Wishes, Lexi On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 7:11 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > We are here at the WPI Campus Center! > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 5:43 PM Dick Miller <TheMillers(a)millermicro.com> > wrote: > >> CU there! Have computer, will travel. >> >> Cheers from >> --Dick (and Jill) Miller, Partners, MMS <TheMillers(a)millermicro.com> >> Co-Leaders, FOSS User Group in Natick (NatickFOSS.org) >> <http://millermicro.com/FOSSUserGroupNatick.html> -- >> >> >> >> * | A. Richard & Jill A. Miller | MILLER MICROCOMPUTER >> SERVICES | | Mailto:TheMillers@millermicro.com >> <TheMillers(a)millermicro.com> | 61 Lake Shore Road | | Web: >> http://www.millermicro.com/ <http://www.millermicro.com/> | Natick, >> MA 01760-2099, USA | | Voice: 508/653-6136, 9AM-9PM -0400(EDT)| NMEA N >> 42.29993°, W 71.36558° |* >> >> Sent from an awesome, inexpensive, non-proprietary >> <https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/>, no-lock-in, no-bloatware, >> virus-resistant, free open-source software, *Linux* >> <http://NatickFOSS.org/> PC - with *Ubuntu-Unity 22.04.1 LTS* >> <https://ubuntuunity.org> and *Fotoxx 22.35* >> <http://www.kornelix.net/fotoxx/fotoxx.html> making the most of the tiny >> camera within a Samsung Galaxy A53 5G smartphone >> <https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-a53-5g-review-3149923/>. >> >> >> On 10/13/22 17:05, John Stoffel wrote: >> >> See you there tonight, in person! >> >> >> > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/YLGET… >

Oct. 14, 2022