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Happy Thanksgiving and things to discuss around the dinner table.

by Tim Keller

I hope all wlug members have a fantastic Thanksgiving. While you're wondering about what to talk about, they've just introduced some new data measurements. The largest being a quettabyte. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-03747-9 I wonder what filesystem you'd even use to manage a quettabyte? We'll have to fork zfs into qfs and make it a 1024 bit file system. Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 22, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Patrick McEvilly

I stepped out when the QUIC discussion was going on. This is a good article written by Geoff Huston. Enjoy Patrick https://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2022-11/quicvtcp.html From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 11:54 PM To: John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> Cc: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Subject: [WLUG] Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61 Hey everybody! So the meeting was good, but we need to work some kinks out with the A/V. The video was good, but the audio was definitely something to be desired. I'm going to work on getting some better omni directional mics for future meetings. Beyond that we had a very interesting conversation about the future of wifi with the 6e and 7 standards. We also delved a bit into some FOSS alternatives to popular commerial products like discord and options for unencumbered music players. Later, Tim. On Wed, Nov 9, 2022, 4:56 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com<mailto:turbofx@gmail.com>> wrote: Tonight is also going to be a test of my A/V setup. I've got a dedicated laptop, with tripod and webcam. Thanks, Tim. On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:39 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org<mailto:john@stoffel.org>> wrote: >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org<mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> writes: > We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! > Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This is the big "gym" building > on the quad. > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music player. > Time: 7pm > Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! I can't make it, I've got scouts and thetre rehearsal. Enjoy all! -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Joel" == Joel <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> writes: > WLUG on 15th is good here. Joel Offhand I don't see any problems with the 15th either. But life might change.

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Joel

WLUG on 15th is good here. Joel On November 10, 2022 5:07:16 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I was just looking at Best buy has a free standing omni directional microphone for $50 bucks. That's definitely within my budget. > > So the December meeting isn't going to work on the second Thursday of the month because it directly conflicts with Christmas concerts. > We *could* do the 15th if that would work with everybody. > > Tim. > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 4:57 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> Hey everybody! So the meeting was good, but we need to work some >> kinks out with the A/V. The video was good, but the audio was >> definitely something to be desired. > > Sorry I missed the meeting, hopefully I'll be there in December. > Let's nail down a date/time/place early if we can! Wednesday doesn't > really work for me though... > >> I'm going to work on getting some better omni directional mics for future meetings. > > One of those flat mics that sit on the desk/floor might be a good > idea. Or an old plantronics or whatever the name of the octopus like > three armed conference call phones was called. > >> Beyond that we had a very interesting conversation about the future >> of wifi with the 6e and 7 standards. > >> We also delved a bit into some FOSS alternatives to popular >> commerial products like discord and options for unencumbered music >> players. > > I've beeen hearing alot of murmurs about Mastodon as an alternative > for Twitter (which I never use) in some cases. I'm just enjoying > watching the dumpster fire over there. > > Elon is a smart smart engineer, but he's also a doofus. > > John > > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/2QRBB…

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Tim Keller

I was just looking at Best buy has a free standing omni directional microphone for $50 bucks. That's definitely within my budget. So the December meeting isn't going to work on the second Thursday of the month because it directly conflicts with Christmas concerts. We *could* do the 15th if that would work with everybody. Tim. On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 4:57 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > Hey everybody! So the meeting was good, but we need to work some > > kinks out with the A/V. The video was good, but the audio was > > definitely something to be desired. > > Sorry I missed the meeting, hopefully I'll be there in December. > Let's nail down a date/time/place early if we can! Wednesday doesn't > really work for me though... > > > I'm going to work on getting some better omni directional mics for > future meetings. > > One of those flat mics that sit on the desk/floor might be a good > idea. Or an old plantronics or whatever the name of the octopus like > three armed conference call phones was called. > > > Beyond that we had a very interesting conversation about the future > > of wifi with the 6e and 7 standards. > > > We also delved a bit into some FOSS alternatives to popular > > commerial products like discord and options for unencumbered music > > players. > > I've beeen hearing alot of murmurs about Mastodon as an alternative > for Twitter (which I never use) in some cases. I'm just enjoying > watching the dumpster fire over there. > > Elon is a smart smart engineer, but he's also a doofus. > > John > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > Hey everybody! So the meeting was good, but we need to work some > kinks out with the A/V. The video was good, but the audio was > definitely something to be desired. Sorry I missed the meeting, hopefully I'll be there in December. Let's nail down a date/time/place early if we can! Wednesday doesn't really work for me though... > I'm going to work on getting some better omni directional mics for future meetings. One of those flat mics that sit on the desk/floor might be a good idea. Or an old plantronics or whatever the name of the octopus like three armed conference call phones was called. > Beyond that we had a very interesting conversation about the future > of wifi with the 6e and 7 standards. > We also delved a bit into some FOSS alternatives to popular > commerial products like discord and options for unencumbered music > players. I've beeen hearing alot of murmurs about Mastodon as an alternative for Twitter (which I never use) in some cases. I'm just enjoying watching the dumpster fire over there. Elon is a smart smart engineer, but he's also a doofus. John

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Bacon, John

One of the WPI NetOps Workstudies bought one. She likes it a lot. The ordering process took 42 days. JOHN -----Original Message----- From: David Glaser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 1:11 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Framework Laptops I ran across a laptop company called Framework https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fframe.wor… that sells an upgrade-able laptop. Has anyone had any experience with their products? -David -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.… _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… Change Settings: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail… Web Forum/Archive: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwlug.mail…

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Tim Keller

No worries. We did more talking about a whole range of stuff including the new wifi standard stuff than the pi music player. Also, if you did show up virtually, you'd have been frustrated. The room was way too big for the dinky mic I brought. I'm going to have to buy a good omni mic that I can put on a tripod in the middle of the room. Possibly a lav mic for the person speaking as well. Next month we will have a more organized presentation. Keegan, one of the guys who's new to the group had a bunch of great suggestions so it'll be a much better presentation for it. In talking to the people in the room, the idea of a stand alone FOSS music player was appealing to everybody. Also, John redoing his KiCAD demo was of interest as well. Tim. On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 8:19 AM hammerron via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > I did want to get there, and in particular wanted to hear about the FOSS > pi based music player. Was all set to go and life got in the way at the > last minute. Hope it went well > > On 11/9/22 15:39, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: > >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > >> We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! > >> Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! > This is the big "gym" building > >> on the quad. > >> Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > >> Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music > player. > >> Time: 7pm > >> Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! > > I can't make it, I've got scouts and thetre rehearsal. Enjoy all! > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/CFGXW… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/D2X7C… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by hammerron

I did want to get there, and in particular wanted to hear about the FOSS pi based music player. Was all set to go and life got in the way at the last minute. Hope it went well On 11/9/22 15:39, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! >> Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This is the big "gym" building >> on the quad. >> Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA >> Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music player. >> Time: 7pm >> Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! > I can't make it, I've got scouts and thetre rehearsal. Enjoy all! > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/CFGXW…

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Tim Keller

Hey everybody! So the meeting was good, but we need to work some kinks out with the A/V. The video was good, but the audio was definitely something to be desired. I'm going to work on getting some better omni directional mics for future meetings. Beyond that we had a very interesting conversation about the future of wifi with the 6e and 7 standards. We also delved a bit into some FOSS alternatives to popular commerial products like discord and options for unencumbered music players. Later, Tim. On Wed, Nov 9, 2022, 4:56 PM Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Tonight is also going to be a test of my A/V setup. I've got a dedicated > laptop, with tripod and webcam. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:39 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> > We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! >> > Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! >> This is the big "gym" building >> > on the quad. >> > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA >> >> > Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music >> player. >> > Time: 7pm >> > Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! >> >> I can't make it, I've got scouts and thetre rehearsal. Enjoy all! >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". >

Nov. 10, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Tim Keller

Tonight is also going to be a test of my A/V setup. I've got a dedicated laptop, with tripod and webcam. Thanks, Tim. On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:39 PM John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! > > Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This > is the big "gym" building > > on the quad. > > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > > > Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music > player. > > Time: 7pm > > Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! > > I can't make it, I've got scouts and thetre rehearsal. Enjoy all! > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 9, 2022

Re: Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! > Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This is the big "gym" building > on the quad. > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music player. > Time: 7pm > Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! I can't make it, I've got scouts and thetre rehearsal. Enjoy all!

Nov. 9, 2022

Re: [EXT] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Tim Keller

It's the Recreation Center, NOT the student center. From the covered garage go up the big flight of stairs and it's on the right. Thanks, Tim. On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 6:51 PM Doug Mildram via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > doug> Correct, Rec Center. > I can't make it in person being 2.x hours away now :) > But in my last professional turf, WPI NetOps. This room has the > most confusing name, for the Class of 1961. > I think it's on the top floor (4th if i recall, most enter on floor 2) > ... far RH corner ? > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 6:40 PM Kuhn, Keegan via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> Is this the WPI Recreation Center, or a different campus/place in >> Worcester? >> >> -- >> Thank you, >> Keegan K. >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> *Sent:* Monday, November 7, 2022 3:42 PM >> *To:* Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion < >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> *Cc:* Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> >> *Subject:* [EXT] [WLUG] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: >> Rec Center Rm 61 >> >> Hey Everybody, >> >> We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! >> Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This >> is the big "gym" building on the quad. >> Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA >> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeet.jit.…> >> >> Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music >> player. >> Time: 7pm >> Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! >> >> See you there! >> Later, >> Tim. >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/MKTRR… >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/YSQ53… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 9, 2022

Re: [EXT] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Doug Mildram

doug> Correct, Rec Center. I can't make it in person being 2.x hours away now :) But in my last professional turf, WPI NetOps. This room has the most confusing name, for the Class of 1961. I think it's on the top floor (4th if i recall, most enter on floor 2) ... far RH corner ? On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 6:40 PM Kuhn, Keegan via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Is this the WPI Recreation Center, or a different campus/place in > Worcester? > > -- > Thank you, > Keegan K. > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > *Sent:* Monday, November 7, 2022 3:42 PM > *To:* Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > *Cc:* Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > *Subject:* [EXT] [WLUG] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: > Rec Center Rm 61 > > Hey Everybody, > > We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! > Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This > is the big "gym" building on the quad. > Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA > <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeet.jit.…> > > Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music > player. > Time: 7pm > Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! > > See you there! > Later, > Tim. > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/MKTRR… >

Nov. 8, 2022

Re: [EXT] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Kuhn, Keegan

Is this the WPI Recreation Center, or a different campus/place in Worcester? -- Thank you, Keegan K. ________________________________ From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2022 3:42 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61 Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This is the big "gym" building on the quad. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeet.jit.…> Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music player. Time: 7pm Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! See you there! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 8, 2022

Reminder: Wlug meeting November 9th: Location: Rec Center Rm 61

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting on Wednesday November 9th! Location: Recreation Center Rm 61. This is not our usual location!! This is the big "gym" building on the quad. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: Heartbleed, Linux kernel 6.0 getting rusty! FOSS pi based music player. Time: 7pm Snacks and refreshments will be provided and we'll do dinner afterwards! See you there! Later, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 7, 2022

Re: November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm.

by Joel

Also a scout dad + leader, leading the teenage iPhone generation every Wednesday night in my town. Just another 2.5 years for my son so it's *knot* a big long term concern. Lol Will catch up on the next one I can make. Joel On November 4, 2022 2:46:44 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> I unfortunately have a conflict on the 10th and the 17th! > > I'm going to be missing these meetings too, I've got scouts on > wednesday nights, but also a theatre show if "Cinderella" at Callioper > Theatre in Boyston first two weekends of December for the show. > >> I'm moving the meeting to the 9th. A couple of people have pulled me aside and asked about moving >> the meeting to Wednesday.. you've gotten your wish. As usual, the meeting will be online (now with >> new and improved A/V tech!) > >> We'll obviously be talking about the heartbleed bug.. Linux kernel 6.0 among other things! >> More details to come! >> Thanks, >> Tim. > >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/6XHGM… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/QMJO5…

Nov. 4, 2022

Re: November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm.

by John Stoffel

> I unfortunately have a conflict on the 10th and the 17th! I'm going to be missing these meetings too, I've got scouts on wednesday nights, but also a theatre show if "Cinderella" at Callioper Theatre in Boyston first two weekends of December for the show. > I'm moving the meeting to the 9th. A couple of people have pulled me aside and asked about moving > the meeting to Wednesday.. you've gotten your wish. As usual, the meeting will be online (now with > new and improved A/V tech!) > We'll obviously be talking about the heartbleed bug.. Linux kernel 6.0 among other things! > More details to come! > Thanks, > Tim. > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/6XHGM…

Nov. 4, 2022

Re: November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm.

by Tim Keller

The Nov 9th meeting will be in person. I've reached out to Frank to clarify in which room. The meeting will also be online as well. Thanks, Tim. On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 10:04 AM THE HAMMER via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Will the Nov 9th meeting be on line only, or also in person. If also in > person, what location? > > > Ron > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:16 PM > *To:* Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > *Cc:* Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > *Subject:* [WLUG] November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm. > > Hey Gang! > > I unfortunately have a conflict on the 10th and the 17th! > I'm moving the meeting to the 9th. A couple of people have pulled me aside > and asked about moving the meeting to Wednesday.. you've gotten your wish. > As usual, the meeting will be online (now with new and improved A/V tech!) > > We'll obviously be talking about the heartbleed bug.. Linux kernel 6.0 > among other things! > More details to come! > Thanks, > Tim. > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/EJD4S… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 4, 2022

Re: November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm.

by THE HAMMER

Hi Tim, Will the Nov 9th meeting be on line only, or also in person. If also in person, what location? Ron ________________________________ From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 9:16 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> Cc: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> Subject: [WLUG] November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm. Hey Gang! I unfortunately have a conflict on the 10th and the 17th! I'm moving the meeting to the 9th. A couple of people have pulled me aside and asked about moving the meeting to Wednesday.. you've gotten your wish. As usual, the meeting will be online (now with new and improved A/V tech!) We'll obviously be talking about the heartbleed bug.. Linux kernel 6.0 among other things! More details to come! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 4, 2022

Re: Framework Laptops

by Chris (wolcen) Thompson

Hi all, I asked about it when I got home tonight and there were a few comments: - The one item that has been a distraction to him is that the fan ramps up on occasion (for no apparent reason). I have noticed the fan noise myself at times - it's not the quietest @ 100%. He blames something in Garuda, but hasn't nailed down what it is yet (KDE on a Core 12th gen). If I were to run `stress --cpu 16` on my T14 AMD 2nd Gen, I won't hear my fan over his despite sitting at our own computers. - He got the DIY version and REALLY appreciated the build experience. Everything that's good about the framework really stands out when you put one together. I've helped him change a video card in the past - he's not a huge hardware geek, but got this together with zero issue. Everything has a QR code for getting directly to instructions if you need them. - Frame.work has successfully transitioned from 11th gen to 12th so far, successfully keeping the frame, etc. A neat thing about this is that there are community designs (i.e. printable cases) allowing you to build an SFF PC based on your previous gen mainboard, should you upgrade. - There are decent community forum pages covering various distros on framework's site. The arch page (as is so often the case) is a great help for finding a consolidated list of tweaks you may need. - One thing that may be noteworthy to people not fond of using wireless networking when they don't have to is that the 2.5Gbit/s Ethernet adapter (which was only recently released) sticks out the side. I believe it's the only module that does. I guess it's whatever...they are easy enough to swap out when you want to get to a better "on the go mode". It's an RTL8156 and should work fine (linux 5.13+). Wireless has been great. - He recommends checking out the LTT video(s) on it and said their review matches his perception, though none of the minor qualms they had about the device have been concerns for him (links below). - The screen frame didn't review all that well from LTT. They did since change the design for the 12th gen ( https://knowledgebase.frame.work/explainer-lid-rigidity-hinge-force-the-cnc… ). It feels pretty comparable to my T14, but I'm pretty sure he'd have a fair bit easier task changing his than I would, should it ever actually be necessary. - He got this laptop about a month and a half ago, so not much more we can offer about reliability. I'd scan their forums. LTT videos (note, Linus did invest nearly $250k in Frame.work): https://www.youtube.com/c/LinusTechTips/search?query=frame.work There was another recent LTT video (a quick take or something like that) about an HP laptop. It seems that perhaps the framework may be having some impact on other manufacturer's repairability? NOT the same as upgrading the mainboard, but still a good thing: LTT (sponsored by HP) video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8lsUvil_S8 Enjoy! Chris On 11/3/22 15:48, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > I might be in the market for a new laptop soon and this definitely > goes on the list. > > Chris, what has your roomates experience been with the durability? > Tim. > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 1:38 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG > <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > They are quite good. My housemate/coworker got one. We work > exclusively > in free software. He put Garuda on it and has full functionality, but > did have to do a tweak or two. He got the 12th gen, and purchased > ram/ssd separately (they price those pretty high). > > Regards, > Chris > > On 11/3/22 13:11, David Glaser via WLUG wrote: > > I ran across a laptop company called Framework > > > > https://frame.work/ > > > > that sells an upgrade-able laptop. > > > > Has anyone had any experience with their products? > > > > -David > > > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/7W6L2… > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list --wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email towlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account:https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings:https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive:https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org…

Nov. 4, 2022

November meeting..Change of date to Nov. 9th. @7pm.

by Tim Keller

Hey Gang! I unfortunately have a conflict on the 10th and the 17th! I'm moving the meeting to the 9th. A couple of people have pulled me aside and asked about moving the meeting to Wednesday.. you've gotten your wish. As usual, the meeting will be online (now with new and improved A/V tech!) We'll obviously be talking about the heartbleed bug.. Linux kernel 6.0 among other things! More details to come! Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 4, 2022

Re: Framework Laptops

by Robert Krawitz

On 11/3/22 15:48, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > I might be in the market for a new laptop soon and this definitely goes on the list. If only they made a workstation version with a 17" screen and lots of storage slots (preferably a mix of 2.5" and M.2)...

Nov. 3, 2022

Re: Framework Laptops

by Tim Keller

I might be in the market for a new laptop soon and this definitely goes on the list. Chris, what has your roomates experience been with the durability? Tim. On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 1:38 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > They are quite good. My housemate/coworker got one. We work exclusively > in free software. He put Garuda on it and has full functionality, but > did have to do a tweak or two. He got the 12th gen, and purchased > ram/ssd separately (they price those pretty high). > > Regards, > Chris > > On 11/3/22 13:11, David Glaser via WLUG wrote: > > I ran across a laptop company called Framework > > > > https://frame.work/ > > > > that sells an upgrade-able laptop. > > > > Has anyone had any experience with their products? > > > > -David > > > > > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/7W6L2… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Nov. 3, 2022

Re: Framework Laptops

by Chris Thompson

They are quite good. My housemate/coworker got one. We work exclusively in free software. He put Garuda on it and has full functionality, but did have to do a tweak or two. He got the 12th gen, and purchased ram/ssd separately (they price those pretty high). Regards, Chris On 11/3/22 13:11, David Glaser via WLUG wrote: > I ran across a laptop company called Framework > > https://frame.work/ > > that sells an upgrade-able laptop. > > Has anyone had any experience with their products? > > -David > >

Nov. 3, 2022