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Richard Stallman Speaking Locally

by Lisa M. Opus Goldstein

Dear People, Richard Stallman, author of the GPL and founder of the GNU Project and the Free Software Foundation, will be speaking in Burlington, Mass on Wednesday October 16, 2002. It is a book-release party for "Free Software, Free Society: Selected Essays of Richard M. Stallman". The web page for the book is http://www.gnu.org/doc/book13.html. Event: Informal Q & A with Richard Stallman Date: Wednesday October 16, 2002 Time: 6:30 PM to about 8:00 PM Location: Softpro Books Vinebrook Plaza 112 Burlington Mall Road Burlington, MA 01803-5300 Tel: 781-273-2917 Web: http://www.softpro.com/ Description of "Free Software, Free Society": The intersection of ethics, law, business and computer software is the subject of this collection of essays and speeches by MacArthur Foundation Grant winner, Richard M. Stallman. It includes historical writings such as The GNU Manifesto, which defined and launched the activist Free Software Movement, along with new writings on current topics such as "trusted computing" and the proposed CBDTPA. Stallman takes a critical look at common abuses of copyright law and patents when applied to computer software programs, and how these abuses damage our entire society and remove our existing freedoms. He also discusses the social aspects of software and how free software can create community and social justice. Over the past twenty years Stallman's arguments and actions have changed the course of software history. Over the years he has received many types of awards; most recently he was elected to the American National Academy of Engineering. Best Regards, Lisa M. Goldstein opus(a)gnu.org Managing Editor, GNU Press Business Manager, Tel 617-542-5942 Free Software Foundation Fax 617-542-2652

Oct. 7, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Installfest Media...

by Keller, Tim

Yes, I meant 9.0... Insomnia + Homeworld = really tired! Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Wes Allen [mailto:wallen@charter.net] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:55 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Installfest Media... Tim, Did you mean Mandrake 9.0? I'd get that rather than 8.0; that was just terrible! Wes On Monday 07 October 2002 9:44 am, Keller, Tim wrote: > So currently I've got ISO's for Redhat 7.3/8.0 and Mandrake 8.0 (disks 1 > and 2, but not the 3rd internationalization disk) > > What other distributions would people like me to make some copies of? > > Also, I'm going to put together my obligatory Disk-o-everything. > > As a side note, I personally think it would be cool if we could have a > repository of WLUG goodies, but I know there'd be some logistics around > that. > > So far this is what's going to be on it. > (unless otherwise noted, assume I'll be grabbing the latest) > > Office Stuff: > OpenOffice > Gimpprint > Kernel Stuff: > Latest Stable Kernel Sources > Latest Unstable Kernel Sources > (would like some input here) > Sound Stuff: > alsa > free OSS drivers > lame > bladeenc > cdparanoia > grip > ogg-vorbis > ultramaster > xmms > xmms plugins > Video: > Nvidia Drivers (I'll grab everything, for every version they've got) > (would like some input here) > Video Tools: > Cinelerra (and all the stuff that comes with it like Xmovie, etc) > (input please!) > Burning Tools: > cdlabelgen > cdrtools > gcombust > gtoaster > xcdroast > Browsers: > Mozilla > Phoenix > Opera > Netscape > plugins > video-players: > xine > mplayer > libdvdcss > region-changer > (would like some input here) > Games: > Deluxe Xkobo > Mame > (help...) > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 7, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Installfest Media...

by Wes Allen

Tim, Did you mean Mandrake 9.0? I'd get that rather than 8.0; that was just terrible! Wes On Monday 07 October 2002 9:44 am, Keller, Tim wrote: > So currently I've got ISO's for Redhat 7.3/8.0 and Mandrake 8.0 (disks 1 > and 2, but not the 3rd internationalization disk) > > What other distributions would people like me to make some copies of? > > Also, I'm going to put together my obligatory Disk-o-everything. > > As a side note, I personally think it would be cool if we could have a > repository of WLUG goodies, but I know there'd be some logistics around > that. > > So far this is what's going to be on it. > (unless otherwise noted, assume I'll be grabbing the latest) > > Office Stuff: > OpenOffice > Gimpprint > Kernel Stuff: > Latest Stable Kernel Sources > Latest Unstable Kernel Sources > (would like some input here) > Sound Stuff: > alsa > free OSS drivers > lame > bladeenc > cdparanoia > grip > ogg-vorbis > ultramaster > xmms > xmms plugins > Video: > Nvidia Drivers (I'll grab everything, for every version they've got) > (would like some input here) > Video Tools: > Cinelerra (and all the stuff that comes with it like Xmovie, etc) > (input please!) > Burning Tools: > cdlabelgen > cdrtools > gcombust > gtoaster > xcdroast > Browsers: > Mozilla > Phoenix > Opera > Netscape > plugins > video-players: > xine > mplayer > libdvdcss > region-changer > (would like some input here) > Games: > Deluxe Xkobo > Mame > (help...) > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 7, 2002

Installfest Media...

by Keller, Tim

So currently I've got ISO's for Redhat 7.3/8.0 and Mandrake 8.0 (disks 1 and 2, but not the 3rd internationalization disk) What other distributions would people like me to make some copies of? Also, I'm going to put together my obligatory Disk-o-everything. As a side note, I personally think it would be cool if we could have a repository of WLUG goodies, but I know there'd be some logistics around that. So far this is what's going to be on it. (unless otherwise noted, assume I'll be grabbing the latest) Office Stuff: OpenOffice Gimpprint Kernel Stuff: Latest Stable Kernel Sources Latest Unstable Kernel Sources (would like some input here) Sound Stuff: alsa free OSS drivers lame bladeenc cdparanoia grip ogg-vorbis ultramaster xmms xmms plugins Video: Nvidia Drivers (I'll grab everything, for every version they've got) (would like some input here) Video Tools: Cinelerra (and all the stuff that comes with it like Xmovie, etc) (input please!) Burning Tools: cdlabelgen cdrtools gcombust gtoaster xcdroast Browsers: Mozilla Phoenix Opera Netscape plugins video-players: xine mplayer libdvdcss region-changer (would like some input here) Games: Deluxe Xkobo Mame (help...)

Oct. 7, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Samba Server and its connection with Windows 98.

by Keller, Tim

As a former Tech Support Slave, tinkering with the registry of any Microsoft product is akin to hand editing your compressed kernel image... I'm not saying you can't do it, I just wouldn't.. Plus, any encryption (even microsoft) encryption is better than no encryption any day... Add this line in the global section of your smb.conf file and the world will be a happier place. encrypt passwords = yes Oh, and this works with every version of windows... Later, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Aramico [mailto:aramico@duahati.com] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 23:39 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Samba Server and its connection with Windows 98. Hi all, Well, may be somebody of you need this information, if not u can ignore it... ;p Well, samba server and its connection to Windows 9* basicly only need this configuration done. It works fine with me here, RedHat 7.2 and its default application ( Including Samba ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- When u install and configuring samba, u must be defining this main several configuration bellow..... 1. Defining the network address to be allowed accessing the Samba Server. 2. Defining the WORKGROUP name. Simply, use the same network address with unique host address in order to estabilsh the connection. for ex :192.168.24.X, u can use this network address and define the -X as host ip. So, by this u got to make the sama workgroup among your server and your client ( Windows 98 ) Please make sure that the user who wants to use the samba server are listed in your server. Instantly, there is a simple registry modification in Windows family, here I'll tell you in case of WINDOWS 98. After finishing the ethernet card, there must be a logon box to be diplayed before you use your windows 98. Here, at the folder defined bellow, create EnablePlainTextPassword and fill 1 as the value. Details : Regedit My Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSUP\En ablePlainTextPassword (DWORD value =1) Restart your windows, then in logon box, enter your Linux|Unix users with its password. U will get your defined shared folder which Linux|Unix define it to shared, Have a nice day..... For more detail, please feel free to ask me about.... I'll just tell u somethin' that I know...... bye there and have a nice day........ - Aramico -

Oct. 7, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Samba Server and its connection with Windows 98.

by Brian J.Conway

> Here, at the folder defined bellow, create EnablePlainTextPassword and > fill 1 as the value. > > Details : > Regedit My > Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETS > UP\EnablePlainTextPassword (DWORD value =1) This is a bad idea. By default, Windows uses encrypted passwords for SMB, and at this point the default Samba configurations for most Linux installations set up encrypted passwords on the Samba server. There's no need for this anymore, and plaintext passwords are not a good idea to begin with (even if it's not encrypted that well). Brian J. Conway bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu "Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves." - Albert Einstein

Oct. 7, 2002

Samba Server and its connection with Windows 98.

by Aramico

Hi all, Well, may be somebody of you need this information, if not u can ignore it... ;p Well, samba server and its connection to Windows 9* basicly only need this configuration done. It works fine with me here, RedHat 7.2 and its default application ( Including Samba ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When u install and configuring samba, u must be defining this main several configuration bellow..... 1. Defining the network address to be allowed accessing the Samba Server. 2. Defining the WORKGROUP name. Simply, use the same network address with unique host address in order to estabilsh the connection. for ex :192.168.24.X, u can use this network address and define the -X as host ip. So, by this u got to make the sama workgroup among your server and your client ( Windows 98 ) Please make sure that the user who wants to use the samba server are listed in your server. Instantly, there is a simple registry modification in Windows family, here I'll tell you in case of WINDOWS 98. After finishing the ethernet card, there must be a logon box to be diplayed before you use your windows 98. Here, at the folder defined bellow, create EnablePlainTextPassword and fill 1 as the value. Details : Regedit My Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSUP\EnablePlainTextPassword (DWORD value =1) Restart your windows, then in logon box, enter your Linux|Unix users with its password. U will get your defined shared folder which Linux|Unix define it to shared, Have a nice day..... For more detail, please feel free to ask me about.... I'll just tell u somethin' that I know...... bye there and have a nice day........ - Aramico -

Oct. 7, 2002

WLUG invites Maddog Hall to speak

by Andy Stewart

On Saturday 05 October 2002 6:37 pm, Clint Moyer wrote: > Speaking of which: > > Did Andy ever make any progress in persuading maddog to > speak to WLUG? > > Clint Hi Clint et al, Honestly, I hadn't pursued it. However, your e-mail rattled my cage sufficiently that I just sent Maddog an e-mail inviting him to visit our group in Nov or Dec. I'll let you know when I hear back from him. It typically takes a few days. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Oct. 6, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Mr Linux basks in the limelight

by Clint Moyer

Speaking of which: Did Andy ever make any progress in persuading maddog to speak to WLUG? Clint On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:18:05 -0400 Bill Smith <wsmith(a)chezsmith.com> wrote: >On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 07:31:23 -0400 (EDT) >Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> wrote: > >KH> Although his followers would dispute it, Mr Torvalds >is not >KH> convinced the phenomenon of Linux has made him >entirely cool. >KH> >KH> "No-one has ever called me a cool dude. I'm somewhere >between geek >KH> and normal," he said. > >i've met him.... ...back when Maddog Hall was pushing >(Digital) Red >Hat 2.5, i think. :) > >-I- would say Linus is a "cool dude"... <shrug> > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > William Smith > wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com > Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com > > If only you'd use your powers for Good instead of > Evil... > * TAG! v3.0 * > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Mr Linux basks in the limelight

by Bill Smith

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 07:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> wrote: KH> Although his followers would dispute it, Mr Torvalds is not KH> convinced the phenomenon of Linux has made him entirely cool. KH> KH> "No-one has ever called me a cool dude. I'm somewhere between geek KH> and normal," he said. i've met him.... ...back when Maddog Hall was pushing (Digital) Red Hat 2.5, i think. :) -I- would say Linus is a "cool dude"... <shrug> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com If only you'd use your powers for Good instead of Evil... * TAG! v3.0 *

Oct. 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Mr Linux basks in the limelight

by Theo Van Dinter

On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 07:31:23AM -0400, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > "We have been at the same conferences but never in the same room. I > wouldn't know what to say to him," he told ClickOnline. A quote from a while ago: "I couldn't give him advice in business and he couldn't give me advice in technology." - Linus Torvalds, about why he wouldn't be interested in meeting Bill Gates. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "... Either this man is suffering from serious brain damage, or the new vacuum cleaner's arrived..." - Rowan Atkinson

Oct. 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by Brian J.Conway

ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/8.0/en/os/i386/README On Sat, 05 Oct 2002 10:53:09 -0400 Chris <cogren(a)charter.net> wrote: > Are all 5 iso images needed for install? I would imagine not. Does > anyone know what each iso image is titled. Historically, one has been > for sources and another for binaries, etc. > > Chris > > Charles R. Anderson wrote: > > >Come and get it: > > > >ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/8.0/en > > > >ISO's and full install tree. > > > >wpila.org seems to be down right now, so when it comes back could one > >of you forward my message to them? Thanks. > > > > > >

Oct. 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by Chris

Are all 5 iso images needed for install? I would imagine not. Does anyone know what each iso image is titled. Historically, one has been for sources and another for binaries, etc. Chris Charles R. Anderson wrote: >Come and get it: > >ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/8.0/en > >ISO's and full install tree. > >wpila.org seems to be down right now, so when it comes back could one of >you forward my message to them? Thanks. > > >

Oct. 5, 2002

Mr Linux basks in the limelight

by Karl Hiramoto

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2300267.stm Linus Torvalds has revealed he is happy to be the poster boy for the anti-Microsoft campaign but would not know what to say if he met Bill Gates. Talking to BBC World ClickOnline at his home in Silicon Valley, the inventor of the Linux operating system admitted that he has never been in the same room with his arch-rival. "We have been at the same conferences but never in the same room. I wouldn't know what to say to him," he told ClickOnline. Mr Torvalds enjoys the notoriety he has achieved as the man that challenged the Microsoft empire with his open source alternative operating system. *Rising to the challenge "In a way it is fun. I'm pleased to be a poster boy. It gives me some self-importance," he said. He would not, however, want to become personally involved in the dispute with Microsoft. "I've tried to stay out of the Microsoft debate. If you start doing things because you hate others and want to screw them over the end result is bad," he said. The main reason he developed Linux in the first place had as much to do with wanting a challenge as being fed up with an operating system that would not do what he wanted it to. Like most technology projects it ran way over the time allotted to it and, to this day, is not truly finished. "It was a lot harder than I expected. I thought, like most of my projects, it would talk half a year and then I'd lose interest," he said. To the relief of his legion of followers he did persevere and eleven years on is still working on it. Reluctance to change While Linux is gradually gaining ground on Microsoft it might well not be suitable for everyone, Mr Torvalds admitted. "Most people don't want to change. They may hate Windows but they run it despite that because, quite frankly, they don't care about computers," he said. And even those that do care, often install Linux without much idea of what they want it to do, he said. Mr Torvalds is not convinced that the open source movement, which has radically altered both the operating system landscape and the mindset of Microsoft itself, will ever entirely topple the Gates empire. "I think, in the end, Linux will be a big part of why it happens but Microsoft is not going to shrink into nothingness in the foreseeable future," he said. Instead it is more likely that Microsoft will become like IBM - "still huge but not the dominant force anymore", he said. The world of coding is beginning to lose importance as Mr Torvalds, ubergeek, admits he has finally found a balance between work and play. *Uber-geek grows up "I have a life too. I have kids now. Linux has been a big part of my life but now I want to have my own time," he told ClickOnline. He revealed that he is more likely to have childrens' parties with bouncy castle and candyfloss than to have a bunch of programmers round. "Part of doing Linux was that I had to communicate a lot more instead of just being a geek in front of a computer. "It has made me more used to talking to people. I still like coding but I have other things to do," he said. Although his followers would dispute it, Mr Torvalds is not convinced the phenomenon of Linux has made him entirely cool. "No-one has ever called me a cool dude. I'm somewhere between geek and normal," he said. -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø When this load is DONE I think I'll wash it AGAIN ...

Oct. 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] I know the problem, anyone know the commands...

by Wesley Allen

Karl, Sorry for taking so long to answer your post, devusb is mounted usb devices just aren't accepting addresses. The only fix I've seen in the web is to get the the usb bridge off irq 9 and move it to 11. I still haven't figured out how to do that manually. Wes On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 16:22, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > Shouldn't the ACPI and USB be able to share an IRQ? > > Did you mount your devusb filesystem? > > > On 3 Oct 2002, Wesley Allen wrote: > > > Hi gang, > > I've tracked down my usb problem. It appears that both my acpi and usb > > controllers are competing for irq 9; what I need to do is set my irq > > for usb to 11 and then it should work. How do I switch irq values?? > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > It was kinda like stuffing the wrong card in a computer, when you're > stickin' those artificial stimulants in your arm. > -- Dion, noted computer scientist > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 5, 2002

Download Plugin for Mozilla...

by Stephen C. Daukas

Hi all! I keep getting this annoying message from Mozilla 1.0 about a Download Plugin Download abvailable from Netscape. This happens almost everytime I go to a webpage to unsubscribe from some of the junk mail I get. I have tried looking for a Download Plugin Download at both Mozilla and Netscape, but have come up empty handed. Anyone know of such a thing? Thanks! Steve

Oct. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by Wes Allen

MDK 9.0 is a nice distro, Lycoris is good as well for starters. Wes On Friday 04 October 2002 5:29 pm, joel jones wrote: > Earlier this week I installed a minimalist configuration of RH 8.0 on my > old Thinkpad 365XD (P133/40MB/6GB). The configuration works fine except > for being slow due to lack of processor and memory (40 MB RAM is max'd). > > The only snag I ran into was a hang on install just before the first RPM > installs. The machine locked up there twice during the text install. I > found this lockup only happened to me doing a "custom" install and not the > "workstation" install. > > RH 8.0 does seem improved over RH 7.X in terms of the quality of fonts and > GUI mods. I also found more things I could quickly disable features to > make life bearable on this old hardware (wallpaper,menu icons,etc). > Unfortunately, I have not tried other distributions yet and cannot > intelligently compare them to RH 7.X or 8.0. > > My next step is to find a very small window manager to hopefully make this > machine perform reasonably in X. Currently I am considering replacing the > default Gnome with either IceWM and Enlightenment. > > Joel > ===================== > > >Hello, > >About 24 months ago I gave linux RH 6.2 a try. I am not a programmer >and > >not very familiar with unix or linux. I did get the linux to run >and was > >able to connect to the internet but had a lot of trouble >getting printers > >to work and found it generally difficult for someone >with my skill level. > > > >WLUG was very helpful and I though that in a while I would try again. >I > >think that this fall I am going to make another effort. Are there >any > >suggestions of what distro to try. Basically I will have a dual >boot > >system with either xp or 2000. I have a PII 450 with 196mb ram >and 13gig > >HD. > > > >I appreciate the advice. > >Thanks > >Tom > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 4, 2002

RE:[Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by joel jones

Earlier this week I installed a minimalist configuration of RH 8.0 on my old Thinkpad 365XD (P133/40MB/6GB). The configuration works fine except for being slow due to lack of processor and memory (40 MB RAM is max'd). The only snag I ran into was a hang on install just before the first RPM installs. The machine locked up there twice during the text install. I found this lockup only happened to me doing a "custom" install and not the "workstation" install. RH 8.0 does seem improved over RH 7.X in terms of the quality of fonts and GUI mods. I also found more things I could quickly disable features to make life bearable on this old hardware (wallpaper,menu icons,etc). Unfortunately, I have not tried other distributions yet and cannot intelligently compare them to RH 7.X or 8.0. My next step is to find a very small window manager to hopefully make this machine perform reasonably in X. Currently I am considering replacing the default Gnome with either IceWM and Enlightenment. Joel ===================== > >Hello, >About 24 months ago I gave linux RH 6.2 a try. I am not a programmer >and >not very familiar with unix or linux. I did get the linux to run >and was >able to connect to the internet but had a lot of trouble >getting printers >to work and found it generally difficult for someone >with my skill level. > >WLUG was very helpful and I though that in a while I would try again. >I >think that this fall I am going to make another effort. Are there >any >suggestions of what distro to try. Basically I will have a dual >boot >system with either xp or 2000. I have a PII 450 with 196mb ram >and 13gig >HD. > >I appreciate the advice. >Thanks >Tom _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Oct. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Sendmail

by JP LaFleur

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 06:28, Aramico wrote: > Where can I get detail documentation about Sendmail and Qmail ? > I mean, the documentations on their site both are meaningless for me. > > Well, it's all just about the the pop3, smtp, virtualhost, etc. > > Thanks! If you want to use qmail, I've always found "Life With Qmail" to be particulary handy. http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html -JP

Oct. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by Karl Hiramoto

I second that recomendation for mandrake 9.0 I used 8.1 and it was very full featured! On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 06:14:33PM -0400, W. Thomas Manders wrote: > wtmanders> Are there any suggestions of what distro to try. Basically I will have a > wtmanders> dual boot system with either xp or 2000. > > Red Hat 8.0 is specifically geared, for the first time ever, for Desktop > installation and ease-of-use, so that is what I would recommend. > > Mandrake 9 was also just recently released, and it might be worth a try > also. Mandrake has historically been geared towards Desktop > ease-of-use. > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø because of network lag due to too many people playing deathmatch

Oct. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 06:14:33PM -0400, W. Thomas Manders wrote: wtmanders> Are there any suggestions of what distro to try. Basically I will have a wtmanders> dual boot system with either xp or 2000. Red Hat 8.0 is specifically geared, for the first time ever, for Desktop installation and ease-of-use, so that is what I would recommend. Mandrake 9 was also just recently released, and it might be worth a try also. Mandrake has historically been geared towards Desktop ease-of-use. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] sources???

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 05:25:24PM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> I'm looking at some software I have to build at work, and I'm trying subssn594> to work with RedHat 8.0, even though I don't have it yet. I'm curious subssn594> about a particulare "binary" package: subssn594> subssn594> kernel-source-2.4.18-14.i386.rpm This contains the expanded and RH-patched kernel source code in /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14, along with supporting files, such as config files. It is used if you want to build a custom kernel right in /usr/src/linux, without packaging it up as an RPM. It is also needed for compiling your own kernel modules. In that case, you should always use the include files in /lib/modules/2.4.18-14/build/include (build is a symlink into /usr/src/linux-2.4.18-14) so you compile against the current kernel version's include files. subssn594> glibc-kernheaders-2.4-7.20.i386.rpm This is a totally separate package that contains stable, unchanging kernel headers for use with all user-space program compilation. The files are contained in /usr/include/asm and /usr/include/linux, and this package should always be used instead of symlinking those directories to /usr/src/linux/include/{asm,linux}. subssn594> kernel-2.4.18-14.src.rpm This contains the kernel tarball + patches + configs + an RPM spec file. It is used to build all kernel-*.i{3,5,6}86.rpm files. If you want to make custom kernel RPM packages, then you need to use this. subssn594> In particular, I'd like to try building my package (targeting 8.0) on subssn594> my 7.2 box. (Maybe that's unrealistic. It's a fibre HBA driver subssn594> module.) Yes, that is unrealistic. RH 8.0 uses GCC 3.2, which compiles code that is fundamentally incompatible with kernel code compiled with RH's GCC 2.96 in 7.2. Not only that, but kernel modules should always be compiled against the same kernel version they will be used with, using the headers in /lib/modules/2.4.x-y/build/include. subssn594> At any rate, why the mixup with the "sources"? And, why would header subssn594> files be non-relocatable on the install? (At least the kernel headers subssn594> are with 7.2. Because you should never need to use the kernel headers of a specific kernel version for *userspace* programs, and you should use /lib/modules/2.4.x-y/build/include for *kernelspace* programs. These changes are the first steps in separating out the kernel ABI/API from the userspace ABI/API. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 3, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by W. Thomas Manders

Hello, About 24 months ago I gave linux RH 6.2 a try. I am not a programmer and not very familiar with unix or linux. I did get the linux to run and was able to connect to the internet but had a lot of trouble getting printers to work and found it generally difficult for someone with my skill level. WLUG was very helpful and I though that in a while I would try again. I think that this fall I am going to make another effort. Are there any suggestions of what distro to try. Basically I will have a dual boot system with either xp or 2000. I have a PII 450 with 196mb ram and 13gig HD. I appreciate the advice. Thanks Tom -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Charles R. Anderson Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:10 AM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0 Come and get it: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/8.0/en ISO's and full install tree. wpila.org seems to be down right now, so when it comes back could one of you forward my message to them? Thanks. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 3, 2002

RE: [Wlug] I know the problem, anyone know the commands...

by Wesley Allen

Tim, That's what I figured, but I'm not aware of how to specify an irq inside modules.conf; it just has the module with no parameters. Wes On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 16:17, Keller, Tim wrote: > You should be able to specify with options in the conf.modules or > modules.conf when the module loads which IRQ to use. > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wesley Allen [mailto:wallen@charter.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 16:16 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] I know the problem, anyone know the commands... > > > Hi gang, > I've tracked down my usb problem. It appears that both my acpi and > usb > controllers are competing for irq 9; what I need to do is set my irq > for usb to 11 and then it should work. How do I switch irq values?? > > Wes > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 3, 2002

sources???

by Bill Mills-Curran

I'm looking at some software I have to build at work, and I'm trying to work with RedHat 8.0, even though I don't have it yet. I'm curious about a particulare "binary" package: kernel-source-2.4.18-14.i386.rpm and similarly: glibc-kernheaders-2.4-7.20.i386.rpm These are clearly source files. How do they compare with: kernel-2.4.18-14.src.rpm ???? In particular, I'd like to try building my package (targeting 8.0) on my 7.2 box. (Maybe that's unrealistic. It's a fibre HBA driver module.) At any rate, why the mixup with the "sources"? And, why would header files be non-relocatable on the install? (At least the kernel headers are with 7.2. TIA, Bill

Oct. 3, 2002