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Re: [Wlug] linuxconf replacement?

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 10 October 2002 11:25 am, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I've just upgraded to 8.0, and I find that linuxconf is no longer > distributed. I was growing fairly fond of it, and I'm wondering what > is the latest and greatest system management tool. I've seen "setup", > and it's a bit lacking. > > I like linuxconf because: > > 1. It doesn't require the detailed (geek-level) knowledge that > editing config files requires. > > 2. It works without a gui, which is very convenient for su-ing to > root, or working through slower connections. > > So, what's the "best" system management tool these days? YaST2...try it sometime! :-) Its available with 8.0 and 8.1. -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Oct. 11, 2002

Future WLUG meeting dates posted

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, I've just posted the meeting dates for the first half of 2003 on the WLUG website. I've also extended an invitation to Jon 'Maddog' Hall to come to speak at a future WLUG meeting, and he has accepted our invitation. He'll visit during our February 20, 2003 meeting. Maddog travels alot and there was no way I could get him to come sooner (we tried). Remember that the Install Fest is only 2 weeks away! I haven't received any e-mails from prospective installees, but that doesn't surprise me since we still have 2 weeks until the event. Nonetheless, please start telling people about this event - advertise it on the WPI campus and tell all your friends! Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Oct. 11, 2002

Linux Developer (Contract Position)

by Sylvain, Michael

I am working on a three month contract in the Burlington, Ma area. If you or anyone you know might be interested in this position. Please contact me immediately. This is a Jr/Mid level position. Please let me know if you have any questions. Sincerely, Mike Sylvain Recruiter 800-482-9494 ext 6024 508-481-9500 ext. 6024 www.daviscos.com The Davis Companies 33 Boston Post Rd. West Marlborough, MA. 01752 Linux Developer The candidate will participate in the development of complete system architecture for a new mobile device. Responsibilities include significant Linux kernel programming, evaluation of Linux packages and applications and C/C++ programming. Qualifications: * Experience with Linux kernel * Familiar with embedded systems programming * Experience with C/C++ * Start work immediately Knowledge of the following will be a plus: * OS programming * Network programming / socket programming * IEEE 802.11 Wireless LAN * Bluetooth * Java and OOP Length: 3 Months possible extension

Oct. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] rpm build error

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:11:42PM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> I just rebuilt apache from the RH 8.0 source rpm. The compilation subssn594> succeeded, but the rpm failed with the following error message: subssn594> subssn594> Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files subssn594> /home/bcurran/tmp/rpmBuild/httpd-root subssn594> error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: This is a new feature of rpm-4.1. It is nice because it will tell you if you forgot to package some of the files that got installed in the %install section. You have three options. You can: 1. Add the unpackaged files to the %files section(s) so they become part of the final binary package. 2. Remove the files from the build root (or don't install them at all to the $RPM_BUILD_ROOT) in the %install section. 3. Tell RPM to consider this error as non-fatal by adding this to your .rpmmacros file: %_unpackaged_files_terminate_build 0 %_missing_doc_files_terminate_build 0 -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 10, 2002

rpm build error

by Bill Mills-Curran

I just rebuilt apache from the RH 8.0 source rpm. The compilation succeeded, but the rpm failed with the following error message: Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files /home/bcurran/tmp/rpmBuild/httpd-root error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /etc/httpd/conf/mime.types /usr/bin/apr-config /usr/bin/apu-config /usr/lib/APRVARS <snip-more files> RPM build errors: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found: /etc/httpd/conf/mime.types /usr/bin/apr-config /usr/bin/apu-config /usr/lib/APRVARS <snip-more files> Neither the modified source nor the binary rpm were generated. It looks like these files made it into the temporary install area just prior to generating the packages, and they should not have been there. Is there an option I should be using to make the install tree "right"? I know I can modify the spec file to wildcard include everything in the install directories, but that doesn't seem right. My command: "rpmbuild -ba httpd.spec". TIA, Bill

Oct. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] (no subject)

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: KH> There was a /. article on this a few months ago. Baiscly said it was KH> very hard to do since most of the clients will try multiple ways to KH> connect. I don't know about that... The firewall that we have at work has pretty much shut down any/all of the IM ports on me. Other than just watching the network traffic and figuring out what ports the clients use (the port is usually listed in the client software's configuration menus also), why not just lock down all ports and only open up the ones that you know that you need? -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/

Oct. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] (no subject)

by Karl Hiramoto

There was a /. article on this a few months ago. Baiscly said it was very hard to do since most of the clients will try multiple ways to connect. On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Aramico wrote: > Hi all, > > Can somebody inform me about what port that should I close in order to disable the connection for YahooMessanger, MSNMessanger, ICQ ? > The thing that I wanna know is the port number on my server as clients gateway to connect to the internet that used by ICQ, YahooMesanger, and MSN Messanger. > If somebody knows so, please tell me detail, > > Thanks, > Bye there and have a nice day. -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø It's not that I'm afraid to die. I just don't want to be there when it happens. -- Woody Allen

Oct. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] linuxconf replacement?

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 11:25:16AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> So, what's the "best" system management tool these days? redhat-config-* Since Linuxconf was developed outside of Red Hat, it was difficult to maintain synchronization between it and the Red Hat configuration layout. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 10, 2002

linuxconf replacement?

by Bill Mills-Curran

I've just upgraded to 8.0, and I find that linuxconf is no longer distributed. I was growing fairly fond of it, and I'm wondering what is the latest and greatest system management tool. I've seen "setup", and it's a bit lacking. I like linuxconf because: 1. It doesn't require the detailed (geek-level) knowledge that editing config files requires. 2. It works without a gui, which is very convenient for su-ing to root, or working through slower connections. So, what's the "best" system management tool these days? TIA, Bill

Oct. 10, 2002

RE: [Wlug] fetchamail!

by Simoncini, Matthew

I second that ... it soundsa good !! > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Homic [mailto:chuck@vvisions.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:18 AM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] fetchamail! > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:11:41AM -0400, Brian J. Conway wrote: > > While we're on this topic, does anyone know of any secure > alternatives to > > Fetchmail? There's seriously a new buffer overflow > announcement every > > week, and it's rather bothersome. I'd be happy to just use > the pop3 > > support in whichever mail client I'm using, but they all > seem to be using > > the Fetchmail code. Perhaps we need OpenFetchmail? ;-) > > Build fetchmail from sources, and link to electric fence. > > Then a dangerous exploit becomes merely an annoying denial of > service. ;) > > BTW, I propose officially changing the name to the much more melodious > 3-syllable FETCHAMAIL! > > -Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] fetchamail!

by Chuck Homic

On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:11:41AM -0400, Brian J. Conway wrote: > While we're on this topic, does anyone know of any secure alternatives to > Fetchmail? There's seriously a new buffer overflow announcement every > week, and it's rather bothersome. I'd be happy to just use the pop3 > support in whichever mail client I'm using, but they all seem to be using > the Fetchmail code. Perhaps we need OpenFetchmail? ;-) Build fetchmail from sources, and link to electric fence. Then a dangerous exploit becomes merely an annoying denial of service. ;) BTW, I propose officially changing the name to the much more melodious 3-syllable FETCHAMAIL! -Chuck

Oct. 10, 2002

RE: [Wlug] fetchamail!

by Brian J. Conway

> Also, it should be noted that whatever version of fetchmail you've got on > your machine, your going to want to upgrade it ASAP. A couple buffer > overruns (via malformed mail) were just reported the other day... While we're on this topic, does anyone know of any secure alternatives to Fetchmail? There's seriously a new buffer overflow announcement every week, and it's rather bothersome. I'd be happy to just use the pop3 support in whichever mail client I'm using, but they all seem to be using the Fetchmail code. Perhaps we need OpenFetchmail? ;-) -b

Oct. 10, 2002

RE: [Wlug] fetchamail!

by Keller, Tim

Also, it should be noted that whatever version of fetchmail you've got on your machine, your going to want to upgrade it ASAP. A couple buffer overruns (via malformed mail) were just reported the other day... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Homic [mailto:chuck@vvisions.com] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:11 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] fetchamail! On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:44:08AM +0700, Aramico wrote: > how can I get my email using fetchamil ? Fetchmail will use POP or IMAP to get your mail from a remote host and deposit it locally (using whatever local mail setup you have... I think it delivers to your local SMTP). Just make a .fetchmailrc with your servers/passwords and you're in business. "man fetchmail" for more info. -Chuck _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] fetchamail!

by Chuck Homic

On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:44:08AM +0700, Aramico wrote: > how can I get my email using fetchamil ? Fetchmail will use POP or IMAP to get your mail from a remote host and deposit it locally (using whatever local mail setup you have... I think it delivers to your local SMTP). Just make a .fetchmailrc with your servers/passwords and you're in business. "man fetchmail" for more info. -Chuck

Oct. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] fetchamail!

by Keith Wright

> From: "Aramico" <aramico(a)duahati.com> > > Hi all, > how can I get my email using fetchamil ? Just spell it right, it runs and fetches your mail. > What is the ./fetchmail listing to access my mail server ? Never heard of it. Maybe you want .fetchmailrc, here's mine: skip gis via pop.gis.net protocol pop3 username "kwright" password "MYOB", is "kwright" here and here's the script that runs it #!/bin/bash /usr/local/bin/fetchmail -v gis of course you have to change what you must change to get your stuff intead of mine. Type "man fetchmail". -- Keith

Oct. 10, 2002

fetchamail!

by Aramico

Hi all, how can I get my email using fetchamil ? What is the ./fetchmail listing to access my mail server ? Thanks,

Oct. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] loading modules

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:52:04 -0400 > From: Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] loading modules > > subssn594> Could /etc/sysconfig/hwconf be the right place to fix this? > > The module might be loading in the initial ramdisk. After changing modules.conf try > creating a new one: > > mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.18-14 2.4.18-14 > > You can take a look at that script to see how it discovers which module to load. It > is pretty tricky and does call kudzu, so maybe the hwconf thing is right. > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > It's working!!! Here's what I found... 1. /etc/sysconfig/hwconf is written at boot time. I have no idea what part of the boot sequence writes it, but the modification date suggests that it's very early. 2. I had to modify the line in /etc/modules.conf before running mkinitrd. This was special because the HBA is seen as a SCSI device. For other devices, the --preload=module and --with=module options would probably work. mkinitrd is a script, so you can read it to see where it's getting data. After booting, lsmod showed that the right module was loaded. Charles, thanks for the great hint. Bill

Oct. 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] X tricks

by brad

On Wednesday 09 October 2002 08:46 am, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 12:27:04AM -0400, brad wrote: > maitre> I didn't even think about VNC. That might work, but i think i found > something maitre> better. I just discovered Xnest. > maitre> > maitre> Xnest -geometry 1280x972 -query :remoteXserver :1 > maitre> > maitre> This seems to do what i want. I'm only missing one thing. That is a > true full maitre> screen mode. I haven't looked into it much, so it may > have this cabability. > > Oh, I misunderstood what you wanted. I thought you wanted to share an X > session between two computers (which you can use x0rfbserver for). What Actually you were correct. I did want to interact with an existing session. I tried to get RFB to work a few times, but was unsuccessful. Xnest does pretty much what i'm look for. Except i can't connect to an existing session and i can't make it full screen it will. > you want is very easy. Just use the regular X server, not Xnest, and start > it on a different VT than normal: > > X -geometry 1280x1024 -query removteXserver :1 vt8 > > Then you can switch using ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f8. This is actually what i have been doning, but i'm getting tired of hiting ctl-atl-f8 and waiting for the monitor to change modes. This is why i was looking for something that could tunnel into an existing X session (on another VT) and display its contents within a window. Thanks, --brad

Oct. 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] loading modules

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 09:46:38AM -0400, John Stoffel wrote: stoffel> Actually, why don't you just replace the existing non-working RedHat stoffel> module with yours? Because that is rude and your module breaks everytime you upgrade to a new RH kernel? You could always submit your module to Red Hat for inclusion in the next release... -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] loading modules

by John Stoffel

Charles> You can take a look at that script to see how it discovers Charles> which module to load. It is pretty tricky and does call Charles> kudzu, so maybe the hwconf thing is right. Actually, why don't you just replace the existing non-working RedHat module with yours? John

Oct. 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] (no subject)

by Chuck Homic

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 09:08:28AM +0700, Aramico wrote: > The thing that I wanna know is the port number on my server as clients > gateway to connect to the internet that used by ICQ, YahooMesanger, > and MSN Messanger. "netstat" will tell you what ports have active connections. -Chuck

Oct. 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] (no subject)

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 09:46:18AM +0700, Aramico wrote: aramico> It's not available on redhat's sites anymore ;( It is there--their server is just overloaded. Or try any of the mirror sites listed on Red Hat's web site. Or use my mirror that was mentioned here twice before: ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/8.0/en/ -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] loading modules

by Charles R. Anderson

On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 09:23:36PM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> alias scsi_hostadapter1 newmodule subssn594> subssn594> I thought that this was the line that was making the standard module subssn594> (qla2200) load. I found that qla2200 loaded even after my change, and subssn594> the newmodule did not load. Are there any other SCSI devices in the system? Do those other HBA's use the qla2200 driver? -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] loading modules

by Charles R. Anderson

subssn594> Could /etc/sysconfig/hwconf be the right place to fix this? The module might be loading in the initial ramdisk. After changing modules.conf try creating a new one: mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.4.18-14 2.4.18-14 You can take a look at that script to see how it discovers which module to load. It is pretty tricky and does call kudzu, so maybe the hwconf thing is right. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 9, 2002

Re: [Wlug] X tricks

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 12:27:04AM -0400, brad wrote: maitre> I didn't even think about VNC. That might work, but i think i found something maitre> better. I just discovered Xnest. maitre> maitre> Xnest -geometry 1280x972 -query :remoteXserver :1 maitre> maitre> This seems to do what i want. I'm only missing one thing. That is a true full maitre> screen mode. I haven't looked into it much, so it may have this cabability. Oh, I misunderstood what you wanted. I thought you wanted to share an X session between two computers (which you can use x0rfbserver for). What you want is very easy. Just use the regular X server, not Xnest, and start it on a different VT than normal: X -geometry 1280x1024 -query removteXserver :1 vt8 Then you can switch using ctrl-alt-f7 and ctrl-alt-f8. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 9, 2002