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Re: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium

by Wes Allen

Actually, on linux.com someone suggested that programmers organize a nation-wide walk-out in protest. I thought maybe every IT worker in the country should get sick for about a week... Completely unrealistic, but man would that be cool. Wes On Monday 21 October 2002 9:02 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > > From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/tcpa-faq.html > > This is a Palladium FAQ for those know what > that is and don't want to follow the link. > > > Thoughts? Should we boycot? > > Too soon. How can I boycott vaporware? > At this time all that can be done is to > work to defeat those lawmakers who are > proposing to make this legally required > (at which time it will be too late to > boycott). > > -- Keith > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Oct. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium

by Gary Hanley

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/tcpa-faq.html > Thoughts? Should we boycot? Boycott what? We run Linux. :-) The best thing you can do is make your local politicians aware of your opinion on the matter. Also, consider joining: www.eff.org -- Gary

Oct. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium

by Karl Hiramoto

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Keith Wright wrote: > Too soon. How can I boycott vaporware? > At this time all that can be done is to > work to defeat those lawmakers who are > proposing to make this legally required > (at which time it will be too late to > boycott). It is not too soon. Awareness is needed now. The article claims that IBM thinkpad's have included the "fritz" chip (http://www.atmel.com/atmel/acrobat/2015s.pdf) since May 2002. Intel P4 will begin to include the "features" in chips shipping in 2003. -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Only people with names beginning with 'A' are getting mail this week (a la Microsoft)

Oct. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium

by Keith Wright

> From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/tcpa-faq.html This is a Palladium FAQ for those know what that is and don't want to follow the link. > Thoughts? Should we boycot? Too soon. How can I boycott vaporware? At this time all that can be done is to work to defeat those lawmakers who are proposing to make this legally required (at which time it will be too late to boycott). -- Keith

Oct. 22, 2002

DRM/TCPA/Palladium

by Karl Hiramoto

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/tcpa-faq.html Thoughts? Should we boycot? -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Only people with names beginning with 'A' are getting mail this week (a la Microsoft)

Oct. 22, 2002

Problem Solved!

by Marc Hughes

I figured out my SMP / X problem. For some reason the AGPGART and RADEONFB modules aren't loading automatically like they do in the single cpu kernel. But if I modprobe them, X works fine. Thanks anyways guys! -Marc

Oct. 21, 2002

XFree86 SMP Woes

by Marc Hughes

I just installed a second processor, installed an SMP kernel, and booted into it. At first, everything seemed great, I can do massive compiles, top shows both CPU's, and things go pretty zippy. BUT... I can't start X. This is what startx gives me: XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-8) / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 23 January 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.17-0.13smp i686 [ELF] Build Host: daffy.perf.redhat.com Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Oct 21 19:23:34 2002 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] Could not bind XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. I'm guessing the whole not being able to bind the AGP is the really bad part. I booted into the single CPU kernel, and X still works fine there. Any ideas? -Marc

Oct. 21, 2002

sendmail/RH8.0

by Bill Mills-Curran

After upgrading to RedHat 8.0, I'm being forced to learn more about sendmail that I have time to invest, so I need some help. Previously, I had used linuxconf to set up Linux server at work (EMC) that would forward most email to the domain mail server -- I'm not trying to manage mail for the company. One twist... I want to define a few aliases. My linuxconf setup worked great -- I could send email to aliasname(a)thismachine.emc.com, and the /etc/alias file would be used to translate "aliasname" to a list of addresses. With the new split sendmail config, I'm floundering. I've made a few tweaks that were necessary to allow the machine to act as an internal relay (I need some security help here, too), but I'm still fighting a mail loop problem. So, here are my specific questions/requirements: 1. I want to send to an alias on "thismachine.emc.com" from anywhere inside emc. 2. I want the same aliases to be used for email originating from "thismachine". 3. I don't want to create a relay security hole. I'll send my sendmail.mc and submit.mc files upon request. TIA, Bill

Oct. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] linuxconf replacement?

by Bill Smith

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:58:10 -0400 Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> wrote: AS> > > Its available with 8.0 and 8.1. AS> > AS> > I assumed he meant for RedHat, and I wasn't aware that YaST is AS> > portable. AS> AS> I knew that...I just wanted to see who was paying attention. :-) I AS> saw the "8.0" without a distro name and thought I'd have a little AS> fun, that's all. The "8.1" reference was a clue... :-) uh-huh... what you REALLY meant is that you've got a Time Machine and the 8.1 was really a slip... <g> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com Things are more like they are today than they ever were before. -- Dwight Eisenhower * TAG! v3.0 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9tDdmyRDfndHyxpQRAoa7AJ9wcujwbR2kATB4NnkF1LCh3bvk5ACeLy97 IToEwATbiiTJqLaErEEQFXA= =b0Mg -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] linuxconf replacement?

by Bill Smith

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:14:18 -0400 Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> wrote: AS> On Thursday 10 October 2002 11:25 am, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: AS> > I've just upgraded to 8.0, and I find that linuxconf is no longer AS> > distributed. I was growing fairly fond of it, and I'm wondering AS> > what is the latest and greatest system management tool. I've seen AS> > "setup", and it's a bit lacking. ... AS> YaST2...try it sometime! AS> :-) AS> AS> Its available with 8.0 and 8.1. Andy, YaST, if i remember correctly, goes with SuSE. Bill was lamenting the demise of linuxconf from Red Hat... i've played with YaST (before v2, i think) a few years ago, and i thought it was great! my personal favorite in RH was control-panel, which went to /dev/null a few versions back, i think. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein * TAG! v3.0 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9tDbfyRDfndHyxpQRAjv1AJ9bqgJFi2+VU5bx4LOTKroB/AofFwCg2+YA bFUXOiS0dfpfKEuhZBBDWc8= =Hd57 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] t-shirts

by Peter Gutowski

>thought the following two would amuse you guys: > >(1) #define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) > There's a lot of truth in that. ;) -- Peter Gutowski <peter(a)linuxchamps.com> // tel.: (413) 531-0123 "When in company, put not your hands to any part of the body not usually discovered." --George Washington, _Rules for Civility and Decent Behavior_

Oct. 21, 2002

t-shirts

by doug waud

Hi all I got a catalog from Computergear.com which offered a variety of T-shirts with various incriptions. I thought the following two would amuse you guys: (1) #define QUESTION ((bb) || !(bb)) and (2) The box said "Requires Windows 98 or better" So I installed Linux. doug

Oct. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] X Setup in RH 8!

by Charles R. Anderson

On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 06:25:40PM +0700, Aramico wrote: aramico> Hi all, in RH 6.x and 7.x, we can still find xconfiguration in setup. aramico> Where can i find or what's the application to run the xconfiguration? aramico> Thanks man. redhat-config-xfree86 All the new tools are called redhat-config-something You should read the release notes in /usr/share/doc/redhat-release-8.0 to see what changed, like DMA is off by default on all CD/DVD drives, sendmail setup changed, and fonts/locales changed. RH 8.0 is compiled with GCC 3.2, so it should be faster, yes. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 21, 2002

X Setup in RH 8!

by Aramico

Hi all, in RH 6.x and 7.x, we can still find xconfiguration in setup. Where can i find or what's the application to run the xconfiguration? Thanks man.

Oct. 21, 2002

RedHat 8, better or worst ? - 2

by Aramico

Is the same problem with modssl and apache will be happen again in RH 8 ? any news ? Thanks.......

Oct. 21, 2002

RedHat 8, better or worst ?

by Aramico

Hi all, how nice r u doin 2day ? Ehmm, okay....... Btw, I itend my self to build a new redhat 8. I've my server running perfect with RedHat 7.3 already. Can somebody tell me that about the recomendation to use redhat 8 ? Is redhat 8 having better performance than 7.3 ? What is something that speacially i have to know before creating a new machine with redhat 8 ? well, I'll replace my rh 7.3 server if rh 8 if Rh 8 can be trusted to rum my webserver which doin' streaming, music and movie streaming...... Thanks Man........

Oct. 21, 2002

Re: [Wlug] OS X Firewall? (#2)

by Theo Van Dinter

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 04:44:27PM -0400, Skip Gaede wrote: > My daughter has an iMac, and we managed to bring it up single user and > change the root password. I forget how we did it, but I think it involved > holding down one of the keys on the keyboard at boot time. I believe it's command-s (apple-s). You'll see a text-mode bootup and it'll drop you at a shell prompt. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Marge, this ticket doesn't just give me a seat. It also gives me the right -- no, the duty -- to make a complete ass of myself. -- Homer Simpson Dancin' Homer

Oct. 21, 2002

RE: [Wlug] OS X Firewall? (#2)

by Adam Keck

Easier way ;-) 1) Login 2) Open a terminal 3) run "sudo passwd" 4) type in your password 5) give root a new password To items of note: 1) My Mac OS has been much happier since I starting installing software at an administrator rather than as root. I am not sure why this is, but I have heard similar stories from other people. 2) You probably have to be an administrator to use sudo. -Adam On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Skip Gaede wrote: > My daughter has an iMac, and we managed to bring it up single user and > change the root password. I forget how we did it, but I think it involved > holding down one of the keys on the keyboard at boot time. > > --Skip > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > > Behalf Of Richard Goodman > > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 4:29 PM > > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Subject: [Wlug] OS X Firewall? (#2) > > > > > > >I would run a packet sniffer (ethereal, tcpdump, etc) on > > the Linux box > > >and see what the iBook is putting out > > > > BTW the iBook is running 10.2 (brand new) > > > > Could not check the ipfw list as it appears that we don't > > currently have > > administrator privileges on the iBook. > > > > checking the preferences/sharing/firewall showed the firewall > > off, however > > I was concerned about the following entries from the iBook's > > /var/msg/system.log: > > > > IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based > > forwarding > > enabled, default to accept, logging disabled > > IP firewall loaded > > arplookup <IP of my linux box> failed: host is not on localnetwork > > > > I have never run a packet sniffer before, so cannot interpret > > it, but I > > fired up tcpdump and did > > a) ping yahoo.com > > b) attempt to load yahoo.com in IE5 > > > > and got the following two dumps (assume I've snipped enough) > > > > tcpdump host 192.168.1.49 > > Kernel filter, protocol ALL, datagram packet socket > > tcpdump: listening on all devices > > 15:55:16.232303 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49174 > > > bach.goodman1.net.domain: 49847+ A? yahoo.com. (2 > > 7) > > 15:55:16.373034 eth1 > bach.goodman1.net.domain > > > host49.goodman1.net.49174: 49847* 2/5/5 A w1.rc.vi > > p.dcx.yahoo.com, A w1.rc.vip.scd.yahoo.com (229) > > 15:55:16.476477 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > > echo request > > 15:55:17.476548 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > > echo request > > 15:55:18.476633 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > > echo request > > 15:55:19.476745 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > > echo request > > 15:55:20.476828 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > > echo request > > 15:55:21.476890 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > > echo request > > 15:55:22.476949 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > > echo request > > 15:55:23.477008 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > > echo request > > 15:55:24.477084 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > > echo request > > <<continued similarly many more lines> > > > > tcpdump host 192.168.1.49 > > Kernel filter, protocol ALL, datagram packet socket > > tcpdump: listening on all devices > > 16:01:00.340200 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49174 > > > bach.goodman1.net.domain: 45963+ A? www.yahoo.com > > . (31) > > 16:01:00.558192 eth1 > bach.goodman1.net.domain > > > host49.goodman1.net.49174: 45963 13/10/3 CNAME www > > .yahoo.akadns.net., A www9.dcx.yahoo.com, A w9.dcx.yahoo.com, (504) > > 16:01:00.563859 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > > www9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > > S 1383754426:1383754426(0 > > ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8687 0> (DF) > > 16:01:01.247337 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > > w9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > > 2642071908:2642071908(0) > > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8688 0> (DF) > > 16:01:01.962006 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > > w3.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > > 3424625619:3424625619(0) > > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8689 0> (DF) > > 16:01:02.719348 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > > www10.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > > S 715459341:715459341(0) > > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8691 0> (DF) > > 16:01:03.433706 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > > w2.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > > 3613744425:3613744425(0) > > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8692 0> (DF) > > 16:01:04.115338 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > > w6.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > > 941366980:941366980(0) wi > > n 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8694 0> (DF) > > 16:01:04.796809 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > > w8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > > 1223626321:1223626321(0) > > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8695 0> (DF) > > 16:01:05.480085 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > > w1.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > > 1755119059:1755119059(0) > > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8696 0> (DF) > > 16:01:05.550034 eth1 > arp who-has host49.goodman1.net tell > > localhost.localdomain (0:80:19:35:ad:39) > > 16:01:05.550329 eth1 < arp reply host49.goodman1.net is-at > > 0:3:93:c5:39:7c > > (0:80:19:35:ad:39) > > 16:01:06.163479 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > > www7.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > > S 2895506991:2895506991(0 > > ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8698 0> (DF) > > 16:01:06.846666 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > > www8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > > S 3434260281:3434260281(0 > > ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8699 0> (DF) > > 16:01:07.529897 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > > www9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > > S 2654995975:2654995975(0 > > ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8701 0> (DF) > > 16:01:09.379617 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > > w9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > > 607986242:607986242(0) wi > > n 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8704 0> (DF) > > 16:01:11.231084 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > > w3.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > > 1683897864:1683897864(0) > > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8708 0> (DF) > > 16:01:13.079138 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > > www10.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > > S 3195269927:3195269927( > > 0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8712 0> (DF) > > 16:01:14.929941 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > > w2.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > > 1831211410:1831211410(0) > > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8715 0> (DF) > > 16:01:16.778674 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > > w6.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > > 3961536773:3961536773(0) > > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8719 0> (DF) > > 16:01:18.628462 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > > w8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > > 4286238440:4286238440(0) > > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8723 0> (DF) > > > > Does this provide enough information? > > > > Dick > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" _____________________________________________ Adam Keck The Mathworks 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma www.mathworks.com FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator _____________________________________________

Oct. 21, 2002

RE: [Wlug] OS X Firewall? (#2)

by Skip Gaede

My daughter has an iMac, and we managed to bring it up single user and change the root password. I forget how we did it, but I think it involved holding down one of the keys on the keyboard at boot time. --Skip > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > Behalf Of Richard Goodman > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 4:29 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] OS X Firewall? (#2) > > > >I would run a packet sniffer (ethereal, tcpdump, etc) on > the Linux box > >and see what the iBook is putting out > > BTW the iBook is running 10.2 (brand new) > > Could not check the ipfw list as it appears that we don't > currently have > administrator privileges on the iBook. > > checking the preferences/sharing/firewall showed the firewall > off, however > I was concerned about the following entries from the iBook's > /var/msg/system.log: > > IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based > forwarding > enabled, default to accept, logging disabled > IP firewall loaded > arplookup <IP of my linux box> failed: host is not on localnetwork > > I have never run a packet sniffer before, so cannot interpret > it, but I > fired up tcpdump and did > a) ping yahoo.com > b) attempt to load yahoo.com in IE5 > > and got the following two dumps (assume I've snipped enough) > > tcpdump host 192.168.1.49 > Kernel filter, protocol ALL, datagram packet socket > tcpdump: listening on all devices > 15:55:16.232303 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49174 > > bach.goodman1.net.domain: 49847+ A? yahoo.com. (2 > 7) > 15:55:16.373034 eth1 > bach.goodman1.net.domain > > host49.goodman1.net.49174: 49847* 2/5/5 A w1.rc.vi > p.dcx.yahoo.com, A w1.rc.vip.scd.yahoo.com (229) > 15:55:16.476477 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > echo request > 15:55:17.476548 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > echo request > 15:55:18.476633 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > echo request > 15:55:19.476745 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > echo request > 15:55:20.476828 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > echo request > 15:55:21.476890 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > echo request > 15:55:22.476949 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > echo request > 15:55:23.477008 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > echo request > 15:55:24.477084 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: > echo request > <<continued similarly many more lines> > > tcpdump host 192.168.1.49 > Kernel filter, protocol ALL, datagram packet socket > tcpdump: listening on all devices > 16:01:00.340200 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49174 > > bach.goodman1.net.domain: 45963+ A? www.yahoo.com > . (31) > 16:01:00.558192 eth1 > bach.goodman1.net.domain > > host49.goodman1.net.49174: 45963 13/10/3 CNAME www > .yahoo.akadns.net., A www9.dcx.yahoo.com, A w9.dcx.yahoo.com, (504) > 16:01:00.563859 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > www9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > S 1383754426:1383754426(0 > ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8687 0> (DF) > 16:01:01.247337 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > w9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > 2642071908:2642071908(0) > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8688 0> (DF) > 16:01:01.962006 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > w3.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > 3424625619:3424625619(0) > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8689 0> (DF) > 16:01:02.719348 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > www10.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > S 715459341:715459341(0) > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8691 0> (DF) > 16:01:03.433706 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > w2.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > 3613744425:3613744425(0) > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8692 0> (DF) > 16:01:04.115338 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > w6.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > 941366980:941366980(0) wi > n 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8694 0> (DF) > 16:01:04.796809 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > w8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > 1223626321:1223626321(0) > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8695 0> (DF) > 16:01:05.480085 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > w1.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > 1755119059:1755119059(0) > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8696 0> (DF) > 16:01:05.550034 eth1 > arp who-has host49.goodman1.net tell > localhost.localdomain (0:80:19:35:ad:39) > 16:01:05.550329 eth1 < arp reply host49.goodman1.net is-at > 0:3:93:c5:39:7c > (0:80:19:35:ad:39) > 16:01:06.163479 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > www7.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > S 2895506991:2895506991(0 > ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8698 0> (DF) > 16:01:06.846666 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > > www8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > S 3434260281:3434260281(0 > ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8699 0> (DF) > 16:01:07.529897 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > www9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > S 2654995975:2654995975(0 > ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8701 0> (DF) > 16:01:09.379617 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > w9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > 607986242:607986242(0) wi > n 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8704 0> (DF) > 16:01:11.231084 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > w3.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > 1683897864:1683897864(0) > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8708 0> (DF) > 16:01:13.079138 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > www10.dcx.yahoo.com.www: > S 3195269927:3195269927( > 0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8712 0> (DF) > 16:01:14.929941 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > w2.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > 1831211410:1831211410(0) > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8715 0> (DF) > 16:01:16.778674 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > w6.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > 3961536773:3961536773(0) > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8719 0> (DF) > 16:01:18.628462 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > > w8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S > 4286238440:4286238440(0) > win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8723 0> (DF) > > Does this provide enough information? > > Dick > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 20, 2002

OS X Firewall? (#2)

by Richard Goodman

>I would run a packet sniffer (ethereal, tcpdump, etc) on the Linux box >and see what the iBook is putting out BTW the iBook is running 10.2 (brand new) Could not check the ipfw list as it appears that we don't currently have administrator privileges on the iBook. checking the preferences/sharing/firewall showed the firewall off, however I was concerned about the following entries from the iBook's /var/msg/system.log: IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging disabled IP firewall loaded arplookup <IP of my linux box> failed: host is not on localnetwork I have never run a packet sniffer before, so cannot interpret it, but I fired up tcpdump and did a) ping yahoo.com b) attempt to load yahoo.com in IE5 and got the following two dumps (assume I've snipped enough) tcpdump host 192.168.1.49 Kernel filter, protocol ALL, datagram packet socket tcpdump: listening on all devices 15:55:16.232303 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49174 > bach.goodman1.net.domain: 49847+ A? yahoo.com. (2 7) 15:55:16.373034 eth1 > bach.goodman1.net.domain > host49.goodman1.net.49174: 49847* 2/5/5 A w1.rc.vi p.dcx.yahoo.com, A w1.rc.vip.scd.yahoo.com (229) 15:55:16.476477 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:17.476548 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:18.476633 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:19.476745 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:20.476828 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:21.476890 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:22.476949 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:23.477008 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request 15:55:24.477084 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net > w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com: icmp: echo request <<continued similarly many more lines> tcpdump host 192.168.1.49 Kernel filter, protocol ALL, datagram packet socket tcpdump: listening on all devices 16:01:00.340200 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49174 > bach.goodman1.net.domain: 45963+ A? www.yahoo.com . (31) 16:01:00.558192 eth1 > bach.goodman1.net.domain > host49.goodman1.net.49174: 45963 13/10/3 CNAME www .yahoo.akadns.net., A www9.dcx.yahoo.com, A w9.dcx.yahoo.com, (504) 16:01:00.563859 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > www9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 1383754426:1383754426(0 ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8687 0> (DF) 16:01:01.247337 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 2642071908:2642071908(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8688 0> (DF) 16:01:01.962006 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w3.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 3424625619:3424625619(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8689 0> (DF) 16:01:02.719348 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > www10.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 715459341:715459341(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8691 0> (DF) 16:01:03.433706 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w2.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 3613744425:3613744425(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8692 0> (DF) 16:01:04.115338 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w6.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 941366980:941366980(0) wi n 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8694 0> (DF) 16:01:04.796809 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 1223626321:1223626321(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8695 0> (DF) 16:01:05.480085 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > w1.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 1755119059:1755119059(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8696 0> (DF) 16:01:05.550034 eth1 > arp who-has host49.goodman1.net tell localhost.localdomain (0:80:19:35:ad:39) 16:01:05.550329 eth1 < arp reply host49.goodman1.net is-at 0:3:93:c5:39:7c (0:80:19:35:ad:39) 16:01:06.163479 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > www7.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 2895506991:2895506991(0 ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8698 0> (DF) 16:01:06.846666 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49153 > www8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 3434260281:3434260281(0 ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8699 0> (DF) 16:01:07.529897 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > www9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 2654995975:2654995975(0 ) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8701 0> (DF) 16:01:09.379617 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > w9.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 607986242:607986242(0) wi n 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8704 0> (DF) 16:01:11.231084 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > w3.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 1683897864:1683897864(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8708 0> (DF) 16:01:13.079138 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > www10.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 3195269927:3195269927( 0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8712 0> (DF) 16:01:14.929941 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > w2.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 1831211410:1831211410(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8715 0> (DF) 16:01:16.778674 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > w6.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 3961536773:3961536773(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8719 0> (DF) 16:01:18.628462 eth1 < host49.goodman1.net.49155 > w8.dcx.yahoo.com.www: S 4286238440:4286238440(0) win 32768 <mss 1460,nop,wscale 0,nop,nop,timestamp 8723 0> (DF) Does this provide enough information? Dick

Oct. 20, 2002

OS X firewall ?

by Richard Goodman

I put the question to the list because I think its related enough to be of interest. My wife just got a top-of-the-line iBook with OS X from school. Connects to the network at school instantly as it should. (I am brand new on OS X) At home I run an network based on a RH7.0 box with IpMasq and some servers going to a static-IP DSL line. About 10 machines, mixed Win and Mac, mixed static and DHCP. When she starts up the iBook: a) the DHCP server on the Linux box shows the normal DHCPREQUEST and DHCPACK lines. b) the Network panel on the iBook shows all the values I would expect to have been handed off by DHCP, 192.168.1.x IP, 255.255.255.0 mask, 192.168.1.1 gateway c) but unable to connect to the internet I found "Terminal" and was able to: d) ping the linux box e) do a nslookup against the name server on the linux box, resolving outside domain names f) bring up web pages running on the Apache server on the linux box But I don't seem to be able to get outside I thought the first thing to try would be to disable the IP Firewall that's being started on the iBook, but haven't been able to figure out how (or where its files are). BTW I run a fairly strict firewall on the linux box and the log shows no hits related to the iBook attempting to get outside. Or I could be totally off base, in which case I would be open to other avenues towards fixing this. Less related: There is an Apple Select 360 appletalk laserwriter on the network, connected thru an Asante appletalk/ethernet bridge which my wife has used with her G3. She can select it through the chooser on the iBook, and we can read and set printer config info, but although everything appears normal when printing for an application in OS9 classic, nothing gets to the printer (and no blinking green light indicating data transfer). Dick

Oct. 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] OS X firewall ?

by Theo Van Dinter

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 01:48:17PM -0500, Richard Goodman wrote: > But I don't seem to be able to get outside > I thought the first thing to try would be to disable the IP Firewall > that's being started on the iBook, but haven't been able to figure > out how (or where its files are). BTW I run a fairly strict firewall > on the linux box and the log shows no hits related to the iBook > attempting to get outside. I would run a packet sniffer (ethereal, tcpdump, etc) on the Linux box and see what the iBook is putting out. To look at the firewall settings though (at least in 10.2.x): System Preferences -> Sharing -> Firewall You can also use the BSD standard ipfw, although I haven't used it at all so ... It looks like "ipfw list" will tell you what you want as well. For me (I don't use the firewall on my TiBook) it's wide open: felicity% sudo ipfw list 65535 allow ip from any to any -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "... you are a very evil man. Evil, evil, evil... It's my job. It pays well and I get to work my own hours." - J. Michael Straczynski

Oct. 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] RH 7.0->7.3 upgrade

by Brian J.Conway

> > Is the php module ready for 2.x? I've been thinking about giving RH > > 8.0 a try to see if I can make use of my usb ports! > > I'm confused, why would you change distributions, just to try and get > USB working? This is mostly functinality provided by the kernel: just > upgrade your kernel. I was curious about this as well, have you tried any of the Mandrake forums, newsgroups, or mailing lists? I have 9.0 running on my Dell laptop without issue and plugging in my dad's digital camera worked quite well (I don't have any USB devices of my own, so I don't have too much experience playing around with it). Just my two cents. Brian J. Conway bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

Oct. 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] RH 7.0->7.3 upgrade

by Josh Huber

Wes Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> writes: > Is the php module ready for 2.x? I've been thinking about giving RH > 8.0 a try to see if I can make use of my usb ports! I'm confused, why would you change distributions, just to try and get USB working? This is mostly functinality provided by the kernel: just upgrade your kernel. WRT usb, you may need to play around with hotplug, etc...which may require package upgrades. In most cases, getting new hardware support does not require upgrading your distribution (not counting video in X :), but instead requires upgrading your kernel. -- Josh Huber

Oct. 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] RH 7.0->7.3 upgrade

by Wes Allen

Cool, if mandrake doesn't come out with a fix I'll have to try it! On Friday 18 October 2002 13:46, Peter Gutowski wrote: > On 10/18/2002 1:23 PM, Wes Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> wrote: > >On Friday 18 October 2002 11:03, Peter Gutowski wrote: > >> I'd suggest that you consider upgrading to 8.0. I've been very > >>impressed with the........ > > ...snip... > > >Is the php module ready for 2.x? I've been thinking about giving > >RH 8.0 a try > >to see if I can make use of my usb ports! > > RHL8.0 includes PHP 4.2.2, plus various modules (libphp4.so for apache, > imap, mysql, etc....) You might need to rework portions of the /etc/php.ini > file, but it seems to be a straight shot. > > -PG > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Oct. 18, 2002