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Aurora SPARC Linux

by Charles R. Anderson

I'll have Aurora SPARC Linux (www.auroralinux.org) at tomorrow's InstallFest if anyone wants to try it out. It is basically the same as what would be Red Hat 7.3/Sparc, but they can't call it that since it wasn't officially made by Red Hat. There is a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 23, 2002

RE: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest???

by Haines, Charles Allen

I've sent the message to WPILA twice now. Haven't gotten any response back, but at least they know. I'll be there with CD's for Gentoo 1.4_rc1 with stage3, Mandrake 9.0 and Redhat 8.0. I'm trying to get slack-current before then, we will see. ----------------------------------------- Chuck Haines GDC Systems Administrator Infinity Complex Developer WPILA Lab Manager ----------------------------------------- AIM: CyberGrex ICQ: 3707881 Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 Cell: (410) 610-6343. ----------------------------------------- "Geek by nature, Linux by choice." -----Original Message----- From: brad [mailto:brad@ithryn.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:24 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest??? On Wednesday 23 October 2002 01:53 pm, Wes Allen wrote: > Is it tommorow? Or tonight? I believe it is tomorrow. > I want to be able to come and get my iPAQ converted (finally), but I > had my wisdom teeth out yesterday AND I've got the flu.....I'm pretty > zoned out. that's no fun. I'll be there if you want to install in your iPAQ. -brad > Wes > > On Wednesday 23 October 2002 1:26 pm, Keller, Tim wrote: > > Do we have a rough idea of how many people are going to be in > > attendance for the installfest? > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 23, 2002

RE: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest???

by Keller, Tim

Tomorrow... I hope you feel better. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Wes Allen [mailto:wallen@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 13:54 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest??? Is it tommorow? Or tonight? I want to be able to come and get my iPAQ converted (finally), but I had my wisdom teeth out yesterday AND I've got the flu.....I'm pretty zoned out. Wes On Wednesday 23 October 2002 1:26 pm, Keller, Tim wrote: > Do we have a rough idea of how many people are going to be in attendance > for the installfest? > > Later, > Tim. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest???

by brad

On Wednesday 23 October 2002 01:53 pm, Wes Allen wrote: > Is it tommorow? Or tonight? I believe it is tomorrow. > I want to be able to come and get my iPAQ converted (finally), but I had my > wisdom teeth out yesterday AND I've got the flu.....I'm pretty zoned out. that's no fun. I'll be there if you want to install in your iPAQ. -brad > Wes > > On Wednesday 23 October 2002 1:26 pm, Keller, Tim wrote: > > Do we have a rough idea of how many people are going to be in attendance > > for the installfest? > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] What's the tally for the installfest???

by Wes Allen

Is it tommorow? Or tonight? I want to be able to come and get my iPAQ converted (finally), but I had my wisdom teeth out yesterday AND I've got the flu.....I'm pretty zoned out. Wes On Wednesday 23 October 2002 1:26 pm, Keller, Tim wrote: > Do we have a rough idea of how many people are going to be in attendance > for the installfest? > > Later, > Tim. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Oct. 23, 2002

What's the tally for the installfest???

by Keller, Tim

Do we have a rough idea of how many people are going to be in attendance for the installfest? Later, Tim.

Oct. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Restarting ldap by user, not by root!

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 05:34:55PM +0700, Aramico wrote: aramico> There is several users are configuring LDAP in my server. aramico> I give them access to modify the LDAP's configuration by giving o+rwx and This is a huge security risk, giving o+rwx. You should create a group and give g+rwx to the group members, or use sudo. aramico> how can i grant the read and write access to the defined directory which aramico> belong to root ? How can I do it ? Use sudo. man sudoers -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 23, 2002

RH7.0 Hacked

by Richard Goodman

I have two RH7.0 and two RH7.3 servers ... it appears that between 5-6am Tuesday both the 7.0 servers were hacked - identically. They are on the same ISP and often their firewalls pick up the same scans and probes. I'm no expert, but this is what I think happened. The first clue was that I couldn't log in through ssh - got the message "The program does not understand the servers's version of the protocol" Looking at /var/log/secure I saw: 10/22 5:34 xinetd fail ftp libwrap from 195.157.17.177 then two fails from 127.0.0.1 I'm running an unpatched wu-ftpd (which I'm sure didn't help me) but the host.allow/deny were set to only allow ftp from the internal network and one specified outside IP# 10/22 5:48 (twice) xinetd start pop3 pid=10804 from 127.0.0.1 [not me-sleeping] 10/22 6:09 Listener created on port 22 Daemon is running Some poking around showed in /etc/ssh sshd (which should have been approx 200K was 2,621,812 and dated 10/22, so probably a trojan? ssh_host_key, ssh_host_key_pub, ssh_random_seed, sshd_config all had 10/22 modified dates My web server also was not running (or at least serving local pages) I accidently rebooted, the web server came back, but ssh did not. Later I attempted to delete and reinstall sshd. rpm said it couldn't uninstall because it wasn't there, and couldn't install because it was there. I think it finally installed with --force, and sshd was about 186K, but the symptoms were the same It turns out that ftp is also now not operational from the internal network. There is a message about xinetd/ftp in the startup, but its probably not important at this point After the reboot, ps -ax listed: 1811 D /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major 7 [which I could not kill] Obviously, I'm going to have to wipe the server (plan to offload a few .conf and mail config files, firewall script and leave /var/www - should that be safe?) and will probably load RH7.3 and patches. Any comments on what happened, or on rebuilding? The hard drive is partitioned (a) / (b) /home (c) /var - and /home has only mail files. If I format (a) and delete some (which?) directories on /var, should I be ok? Would prefer not to rebuild the /var/www directories if possible. With ftp and ssh both down, my only way to offload is to floppies? Boy, I miss not having ssh access! Dick

Oct. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] RH7.0 Hacked

by Karl Hiramoto

Did you not run redhat's up2date program? I agree with marc that you should have ftp client access to ftp from that machine to another. On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Richard Goodman wrote: > I have two RH7.0 and two RH7.3 servers ... it appears that between > 5-6am Tuesday both the 7.0 servers were hacked - identically. They > are on the same ISP and often their firewalls pick up the same scans > and probes. > > I'm no expert, but this is what I think happened. > > The first clue was that I couldn't log in through ssh - got the > message "The program does not understand the servers's version of the > protocol" > > Looking at /var/log/secure I saw: > 10/22 5:34 xinetd fail ftp libwrap from 195.157.17.177 > then two fails from 127.0.0.1 > I'm running an unpatched wu-ftpd (which I'm sure didn't help me) but > the host.allow/deny were set to only allow ftp from the internal > network and one specified outside IP# > > 10/22 5:48 (twice) xinetd start pop3 pid=10804 from 127.0.0.1 [not me-sleeping] > 10/22 6:09 Listener created on port 22 > Daemon is running > > Some poking around showed in /etc/ssh > sshd (which should have been approx 200K was 2,621,812 and dated > 10/22, so probably a trojan? > ssh_host_key, ssh_host_key_pub, ssh_random_seed, sshd_config all had > 10/22 modified dates > > My web server also was not running (or at least serving local pages) > > I accidently rebooted, the web server came back, but ssh did not. > Later I attempted to delete and reinstall sshd. rpm said it couldn't > uninstall because it wasn't there, and couldn't install because it > was there. I think it finally installed with --force, and sshd was > about 186K, but the symptoms were the same > > It turns out that ftp is also now not operational from the internal > network. There is a message about xinetd/ftp in the startup, but its > probably not important at this point > > After the reboot, ps -ax listed: > 1811 D /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major 7 [which I could not kill] > > Obviously, I'm going to have to wipe the server (plan to offload a > few .conf and mail config files, firewall script and leave /var/www - > should that be safe?) and will probably load RH7.3 and patches. > > Any comments on what happened, or on rebuilding? The hard drive is > partitioned (a) / (b) /home (c) /var - and /home has only mail files. > If I format (a) and delete some (which?) directories on /var, should > I be ok? Would prefer not to rebuild the /var/www directories if > possible. With ftp and ssh both down, my only way to offload is to > floppies? > > Boy, I miss not having ssh access! > > Dick > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø You have an ambitious nature and may make a name for yourself.

Oct. 23, 2002

RE: [Wlug] RH7.0 Hacked

by Marc Hughes

You probably still have ftp or ssh access from that machine, so you can copy your data off of it onto another server. But I'd say your best bet is unplug it from the internet, copy off all your data (not programs!), wipe clean, and reinstall. You never know what kinds of rootkits were installed, and you can't rely on any system info to be accurate since some rootkits are rather advanced. Did you have SSL running without the recent (as in past month or so) patches? -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Richard Goodman [mailto:dick@goodman1.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:31 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] RH7.0 Hacked I have two RH7.0 and two RH7.3 servers ... it appears that between 5-6am Tuesday both the 7.0 servers were hacked - identically. They are on the same ISP and often their firewalls pick up the same scans and probes. I'm no expert, but this is what I think happened. The first clue was that I couldn't log in through ssh - got the message "The program does not understand the servers's version of the protocol" Looking at /var/log/secure I saw: 10/22 5:34 xinetd fail ftp libwrap from 195.157.17.177 then two fails from 127.0.0.1 I'm running an unpatched wu-ftpd (which I'm sure didn't help me) but the host.allow/deny were set to only allow ftp from the internal network and one specified outside IP# 10/22 5:48 (twice) xinetd start pop3 pid=10804 from 127.0.0.1 [not me-sleeping] 10/22 6:09 Listener created on port 22 Daemon is running Some poking around showed in /etc/ssh sshd (which should have been approx 200K was 2,621,812 and dated 10/22, so probably a trojan? ssh_host_key, ssh_host_key_pub, ssh_random_seed, sshd_config all had 10/22 modified dates My web server also was not running (or at least serving local pages) I accidently rebooted, the web server came back, but ssh did not. Later I attempted to delete and reinstall sshd. rpm said it couldn't uninstall because it wasn't there, and couldn't install because it was there. I think it finally installed with --force, and sshd was about 186K, but the symptoms were the same It turns out that ftp is also now not operational from the internal network. There is a message about xinetd/ftp in the startup, but its probably not important at this point After the reboot, ps -ax listed: 1811 D /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major 7 [which I could not kill] Obviously, I'm going to have to wipe the server (plan to offload a few .conf and mail config files, firewall script and leave /var/www - should that be safe?) and will probably load RH7.3 and patches. Any comments on what happened, or on rebuilding? The hard drive is partitioned (a) / (b) /home (c) /var - and /home has only mail files. If I format (a) and delete some (which?) directories on /var, should I be ok? Would prefer not to rebuild the /var/www directories if possible. With ftp and ssh both down, my only way to offload is to floppies? Boy, I miss not having ssh access! Dick _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 23, 2002

Restarting ldap by user, not by root!

by Aramico

HI all, Can u please help me to solve this problem...... There is several users are configuring LDAP in my server. I give them access to modify the LDAP's configuration by giving o+rwx and create the link for LDAP in their home directory. By this they can modify the L:DAP configuration. The big problem is, they always ask me to restart the ldap (/etc/rc.d/init.d/ldap restart), in fact... I'm so bussy.... Talk to the clients..... can my users ( group users ) able to restart the ldap by executing /etc/rc.d/init.d/ldap restart.... how can i grant the read and write access to the defined directory which belong to root ? How can I do it ? --------------------------------------------------- Note : Btw, so sorry about asking you so much low level question...... Thanks.....

Oct. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Using iptables to MASQ the connection to the internet.

by Peter Gutowski

Aramico, I've noticed, since you posts started appearing, that you seem to be asking for help on topics that are generally well-covered on the internet. But perhaps you are new enough to all this (as I was several years ago) that you don't realize that the purpose of forums like this is to add a level of enrichment to the research work that you've (hopefully) already done. It might be a better use of all of our time if you did some of that research yourself and came back with specific questions after having done so. The answer to the question you ask below specifically is answered quite well in HOWTOs that are readily available. I'll infer for a moment that your question is based on your sucessfull installation of RHL8.0 that you were asking about earlier. To find more information about any installed package do... rpm -q <package-name> -i So for your iptables question, I'd do this: rpm -q iptables -i Among the info listed here is a key to finding out how to use it: URL: : http://www.netfilter.org If you were to follow that link, you'll find plenty of answers to the exact question your pose. (Scroll to the bottom of the page and select NAT HOWTO. Look for "4.1 I just want masquerading! Help!" ) Also, most RPMs have a certain amout of enclosed documentation that will vary in its helpfulness. Do a rpm -q <package-name> -l | grep doc or substitute "info" or "man" for the "doc" above. Making an attempt to read those would also be a good first step to implementing new facilities on systems you are using. You might be pleasantly surprized about how many of these questions have been already anticipated *and* answered! Finally, doing a google search (http://www.google.com) might also surprize you pleasantly about locating these resources quickly. On 10/23/2002 12:23 AM, Aramico <aramico(a)duahati.com> wrote: >Hi all, > >Can you please tell me what is the sysntax of iptables to masquerade >my >network connection to the internet ? > >Basicly, I've only done this to masquerade my network connectionto >the >Internet, as default we can use the computer who masq the connection >as >gateway. >ipchains -A forward -s 0/0 -d 0/0 -j MASQ > >So, can you please tell me what is the syntax of iptables to produce >the >result as the command above...... ? > >Thanks ...... > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Oct. 23, 2002

Using iptables to MASQ the connection to the internet.

by Aramico

Hi all, Can you please tell me what is the sysntax of iptables to masquerade my network connection to the internet ? Basicly, I've only done this to masquerade my network connectionto the Internet, as default we can use the computer who masq the connection as gateway. ipchains -A forward -s 0/0 -d 0/0 -j MASQ So, can you please tell me what is the syntax of iptables to produce the result as the command above...... ? Thanks ......

Oct. 23, 2002

Can you trust your computer?

by Karl Hiramoto

I went to see stallman at the book store last wednesday, and this is what he was talking about.... http://newsforge.com/newsforge/02/10/21/1449250.shtml?tid=19 -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø You'd like to do it instantaneously, but that's too slow.

Oct. 23, 2002

Re: [Wlug] debian pkgs

by Josh Huber

brad <maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu> writes: > Do the debian users here know how to install a package into a prefix > directory? For example i want my kde stuff to be installed in > /usr/local/kde, not /usr. Is this possible with aptitude? No, you cannot install the packge into another prefix. Well, without rebuilding them, that is :) Typically, you would install locally built packages in /usr/local, while the official packages would live in the standard /usr prefix. -- Josh Huber

Oct. 22, 2002

RE: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium

by Karl Hiramoto

Scenario #2 on POST after you install Linux. :) TCPA Error: Untrusted Operating System Detected. Please Insert Your Micro$oft CD for reinstall On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Keller, Tim wrote: > The problem I see is when you go out and buy a PC, blowout the partitions > that have "longhorn" (MS's next OS) and install linux, reboot the machine > and get this error at the POST screen: > > "TCPA Error: BOOT DEVICE DOES NOT CONTAIN VALID BOOT KEY" > > I don't see the people building the whole DRM infrastructure giving out > details on how to change keys since their whole authentication > infrastructure is based around the idea that every machine has a unique key > so they can track things on a PC by PC basis. In their view, the idea of > installing an operating system that doesn't have DRM built into it at the > kernel level is an unacceptable option. The only way for DRM to be > effective is to have a say in every action on your machine. Start an > application and "DRM" verifies that the application is allowed to run on the > machine. Insert a piece of media and "DRM" verifies that your allowed to > access it. Go to a particular website and "DRM" decides if your allowed to > access said website... > > On the privacy side of this, what's to keep the whole infrastructure from > also keeping detailed info on what apps/media/peripheral/websites you > access. Yeah, you could opt out of it, but by not opting in, your PC > becomes utterly crippled, unable to play DVD's (since it can't verify > authenticity), unable to run verified apps, etc... > > I see all kinds of other very onerous privacy issues with this... > > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Hanley [mailto:gary@hanley.net] > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 21:53 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/tcpa-faq.html > > Thoughts? Should we boycot? > > Boycott what? We run Linux. :-) > > The best thing you can do is make your local politicians aware of your > opinion on the matter. > > Also, consider joining: > > www.eff.org > > -- Gary > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø I'm a Lisp variable -- bind me!

Oct. 22, 2002

debian pkgs

by brad

Hi All, Do the debian users here know how to install a package into a prefix directory? For example i want my kde stuff to be installed in /usr/local/kde, not /usr. Is this possible with aptitude? Thanks, -brad

Oct. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Problem Solved!

by doug waud

Hi all > I can't find any documentation that refers to /etc/modules, either. > I'd like to read up on this, because I find that I'm adding drivers to > support fibre HBA's. Being naive, I tried man modules.conf and got a lot of information. At the very top was The behavior of modprobe and depmod can be modified by the (optional) configuration file /etc/modules.conf I think that puts modules.conf itself into context. And the rest of those man pages should help as a first step in reading up on this. (I cannot point you farther since this has been as far as I have had to go in the past.) doug

Oct. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Problem Solved!

by Charles R. Anderson

On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 10:30:41AM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/modules.conf subssn594> file /etc/modules.conf is not owned by any package rpm -qf /etc/modules.conf would be a better choice, but it returns the same result in this case. subssn594> I can't find any documentation that refers to /etc/modules, either. subssn594> I'd like to read up on this, because I find that I'm adding drivers to subssn594> support fibre HBA's. Look into mkinitrd. You can tell it to add certain modules to the initial ram disk (so you could even have / on a fibre HBA if you wanted). -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Problem Solved!

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Brian J. Conway wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:51:53 -0400 (EDT) > From: Brian J. Conway <bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Problem Solved! > > > What's the modules.conf syntax for explicitly loading? I've only used > > modules.conf for module options, not a replacement for modprobe. > > As far as I know, the /etc/modules is part of initscripts (not modutils) > and explicitly loads modules. I don't know if you can explicitly load > modules with modules.conf . > > [bconway@erasmus /]$ rpm -qf /etc/modules > initscripts-6.40.2-41mdk > [bconway@erasmus /]$ cat /etc/modules > # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. > # > # This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are > # to be loaded at boot time, one per line. Comments begin with > # a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored. > > #scsi_hostadapter > > -b Brian, /etc/modules is not in the standard initscripts rpm's from RedHat, so I don't have that. BTW, /etc/modules.conf is not owned by any package, either: rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/modules.conf file /etc/modules.conf is not owned by any package I can't find any documentation that refers to /etc/modules, either. I'd like to read up on this, because I find that I'm adding drivers to support fibre HBA's. Thanks, Bill

Oct. 22, 2002

RE: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium

by Keller, Tim

The problem I see is when you go out and buy a PC, blowout the partitions that have "longhorn" (MS's next OS) and install linux, reboot the machine and get this error at the POST screen: "TCPA Error: BOOT DEVICE DOES NOT CONTAIN VALID BOOT KEY" I don't see the people building the whole DRM infrastructure giving out details on how to change keys since their whole authentication infrastructure is based around the idea that every machine has a unique key so they can track things on a PC by PC basis. In their view, the idea of installing an operating system that doesn't have DRM built into it at the kernel level is an unacceptable option. The only way for DRM to be effective is to have a say in every action on your machine. Start an application and "DRM" verifies that the application is allowed to run on the machine. Insert a piece of media and "DRM" verifies that your allowed to access it. Go to a particular website and "DRM" decides if your allowed to access said website... On the privacy side of this, what's to keep the whole infrastructure from also keeping detailed info on what apps/media/peripheral/websites you access. Yeah, you could opt out of it, but by not opting in, your PC becomes utterly crippled, unable to play DVD's (since it can't verify authenticity), unable to run verified apps, etc... I see all kinds of other very onerous privacy issues with this... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Hanley [mailto:gary@hanley.net] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 21:53 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] DRM/TCPA/Palladium On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/tcpa-faq.html > Thoughts? Should we boycot? Boycott what? We run Linux. :-) The best thing you can do is make your local politicians aware of your opinion on the matter. Also, consider joining: www.eff.org -- Gary _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Problem Solved!

by Brian J. Conway

> What's the modules.conf syntax for explicitly loading? I've only used > modules.conf for module options, not a replacement for modprobe. As far as I know, the /etc/modules is part of initscripts (not modutils) and explicitly loads modules. I don't know if you can explicitly load modules with modules.conf . [bconway@erasmus /]$ rpm -qf /etc/modules initscripts-6.40.2-41mdk [bconway@erasmus /]$ cat /etc/modules # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. # # This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are # to be loaded at boot time, one per line. Comments begin with # a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored. #scsi_hostadapter -b

Oct. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Problem Solved!

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Brian J. Conway wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 09:22:11 -0400 (EDT) > From: Brian J. Conway <bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Problem Solved! > > > You'll probably want to build a new /boot/initrd-xxxx (along with an > > appropriate boot option) so that it loads automatically for smp. > > You could also add any modules you want to be explicitly loaded at boot > time to /etc/modules . > > -b What's the modules.conf syntax for explicitly loading? I've only used modules.conf for module options, not a replacement for modprobe. Thanks, Bill

Oct. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Problem Solved!

by Brian J. Conway

> You'll probably want to build a new /boot/initrd-xxxx (along with an > appropriate boot option) so that it loads automatically for smp. You could also add any modules you want to be explicitly loaded at boot time to /etc/modules . -b

Oct. 22, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Problem Solved!

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Marc Hughes wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:45:31 -0400 > From: Marc Hughes <mhughes(a)wpidalamar.com> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: wlug(a)wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Problem Solved! > > I figured out my SMP / X problem. For some reason the AGPGART and RADEONFB > modules aren't loading automatically like they do in the single cpu kernel. > But if I modprobe them, X works fine. > > Thanks anyways guys! > > -Marc Marc, You'll probably want to build a new /boot/initrd-xxxx (along with an appropriate boot option) so that it loads automatically for smp. Bill

Oct. 22, 2002