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RE: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Mike Peckar

Geepers, are there still dialuppers alive today that haven't set up there own (damned) rules? The roaring naughts are the age of rules and policies, baby - get with the program as they say. Lesse, lemme recount a few -- if an email contains less than 1m, send it to my watch; if its an mpeg or graphics file, send it to my media server and let it figure it out; if its anything microsoft, send it my handheld - its probably work related -- and if its got the words: sex, drugs, or rock and roll, send it to all of them, baby, cause I'm a wild and crazy guy with 'lectronic stuff, man, and I'm comin' to yer town ---- --so betta watch out, o.k.? and btb, election day is pretty much here right now, so vote for ME, (goddammit), because (I swear,) if you don't, we'll all loose... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:09 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message On Friday 01 November 2002 10:41 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this > mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent > it, because I got tired of watching it download > and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it > totally unread. Since I don't know who you are > you are safe (from me at least) if you never do > anything like that again. I did it. Got a problem? Take it up with me and not the list, and please keep your profanity to yourself. > > Can the mailing list software be configured to > throw any message more than, say, a generous > 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender > with a polite message about his mother and > a baboon? > Let's leave my mother out of this, shall we? The mailing list software sent my e-mail to the WLUG mailing list admin due to its size. I believe the limit is set to 20 Kbytes. The WLUG mailing list admin obviously approved it for posting and sent it on its way. I am not the WLUG mailing list admin (I suspect it is either Chuck or Frank). > Thank you very much. > > -- Keith You're quite welcome! I'm happy to keep people informed about important events in the Linux world, such as the Enterprise Linux Forum being held in Boston. Ah, but you'd have known that if you hadn't deleted a partially downloaded e-mail message. Now, to the more polite members of WLUG, my apologies if the aforementioned e-mail has caused you some grief. I'll endeavor to use more care in the future. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Andy Stewart

On Friday 01 November 2002 10:41 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this > mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent > it, because I got tired of watching it download > and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it > totally unread. Since I don't know who you are > you are safe (from me at least) if you never do > anything like that again. I did it. Got a problem? Take it up with me and not the list, and please keep your profanity to yourself. > > Can the mailing list software be configured to > throw any message more than, say, a generous > 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender > with a polite message about his mother and > a baboon? > Let's leave my mother out of this, shall we? The mailing list software sent my e-mail to the WLUG mailing list admin due to its size. I believe the limit is set to 20 Kbytes. The WLUG mailing list admin obviously approved it for posting and sent it on its way. I am not the WLUG mailing list admin (I suspect it is either Chuck or Frank). > Thank you very much. > > -- Keith You're quite welcome! I'm happy to keep people informed about important events in the Linux world, such as the Enterprise Linux Forum being held in Boston. Ah, but you'd have known that if you hadn't deleted a partially downloaded e-mail message. Now, to the more polite members of WLUG, my apologies if the aforementioned e-mail has caused you some grief. I'll endeavor to use more care in the future. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Nov. 2, 2002

2 goddamn megabyte message

by Keith Wright

Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent it, because I got tired of watching it download and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it totally unread. Since I don't know who you are you are safe (from me at least) if you never do anything like that again. Can the mailing list software be configured to throw any message more than, say, a generous 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender with a polite message about his mother and a baboon? Thank you very much. -- Keith

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DNS Resolve from the Internet

by Karl Hiramoto

jose, There should not be an issue with it. Just provide your friends the IP address. As long as they can connect directly to the IP everthing should work. U might want tcp and udp on port 53 and 113 On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, jose sanchez wrote: > Hello: > > Please help me get this straight. I am confused. I > have a dnscache running at home on a DMZ network. I > would like to know if I can have friends on other > networks (in the Internet) to use my server as their > resolver server? > > I have a firewall in place but, I'm directing all the > udp traffic to port 53 to my dns-server; also my > dnscache server is accepting connections from those > networks ip's. > > Can I do this or do I need to register ($$$$$) a the > dns-server? > > Thanks in advance for your help.... > > > ===== > "An ounce of gold cannot buy an ounce of time." > - Anonymous > > > www.whmicro.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø The older I grow, the less important the comma becomes. Let the reader catch his own breath. -- Elizabeth Clarkson Zwart

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups

by Karl Hiramoto

I'll be there for the free stuff, but can't afford the spendy stuff. On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > > > Hi Everybody, > > On Dec. 3 and 4, 2002, the Enterprise Linux Forum will be held at the Boston > Marriot (Copley Place) in Boston, MA. We have been offered a $200 discount > for WLUG members who attend the event. If you want more information, read > below that which was sent to me. If you wish to go and can't read the > attachments, send me e-mail. > > Later, > > Andy > > > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:27:15 -0500 > From: Juliet Sigmann <jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com> > To: andystewart(a)attbi.com > > Andy, > > I hope you do not think it too forward of me to send you this e-mail, but I > came across Worcester Linux Users Group while researching Linux associations > and user group sites. My company, Jupitermedia, has developed a conference > that I believe will be of interest to you and other members of Worcester > Linux Users Group . The name of the event is Enterprise Linux Forum > Conference & Expo. For complete details on this event, visit > http://www.enterpriselinuxforum.com > > I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 discount to > attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. Registrations processed by November 19th > save an additional $100 off the regular conference price. The conference > offers 1-Day, 2-Day, and Expo Pass (free) passes to the event. > > This e-mail is not a "sales call", but is a win-win business proposition. > We are seeking to drive attendance at this first time (albeit world-class) > event. We can offer you and other Worcester Linux Users Group members a > world class event that touches on a number of subjects via 4 comprehensive > tracks that I believe would be of interest to your group such as Linux in > the Datacenter; Clustered and Distributed Computing; Operations, Management > and Infrastructure; and Application, Storage and Information Management. > Scroll below for the complete line-up of speakers and topics to be > highlighted at this event. > > As the conference brochure (attached in PDF format) relates, this event is > set to run December 3-4, 2002 at the Boston Marriott Copley Place in Boston, > MA. > > Currently, the event is sponsored by Red Hat (Premier Sponsor), BMC > Software, Computer Associates, Dell, Egenera, IBM, NeTraverse, Oracle, Sun > Microsystems, SuSE Linux, Ximian, and more. Additional supporters of the > event include: Illuminata (Premier Analyst Sponsor) and association sponsors > Free Standards Group, GNOME Foundation, Linux International, and Open Source > Development Lab. Media sponsors include, Capterra, HostingTech, IT Toolbox, > Linux Journal, and OutsourcingCentral.com. > > Visit the event web site at www.enterpriselinuxforum.com for the most > up-to-date listing of speakers, session descriptions, sponsors, and > exhibitors. > > Again, I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 > discount to attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. As you can see from the > number and quality of sponsors and speakers, this is a first rate event. > > I have attached with this e-mail a fax back registration form with the $200 > discount as well as some copy that you could include in an email newsletter > to you members or your web site. In order for your members to take > advantage of this $200 discount, they will need to use the priority code > assigned in the fax back form or attached copy. > > Please call me directly if you have any comments or questions. > > Sincerely, > > Juliet Sigmann > Marketing Manager > > Jupitermedia Corporation > (formerly INT Media Group) > 30 Lyman Street, Suite 8 > Westboro, MA 01581 > T: 508-870-5858 x119 > F: 508-870-6521 > eFax: 801-761-9698 > jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com > www.jupitermedia.com > > **************************************************************************** > *************** > Keynotes and Sessions > Click on http://www.jupiterevents.com/elf/fall02/glance.html for the > complete agenda > > Keynote 1: The Inevitable Linux Momentum - Matthew J. Szulik, Chairman, CEO > and President, Red Hat > Keynote 2: Linux in Prime Time: Open Source Meets Enterprise Requirements - > Jonathan Eunice, President and Principal > Analyst, Illuminata > Keynote 3: IBM Enterprise Solutions for Linux - Steven C. Solazzo, General > Manager, Linux, IBM > Keynote 4: Unbreakable Linux - Rene Bonvanie, VP of Oracle9i Marketing, > Oracle Corporation > > Session 1: The Changing Face of Linux - David Niemi, Director of Systems > Engineering, Adeptech Systems, Inc. > Session 2: Linux High Availability Cluster Selection - Tim Burke, Advanced > Server Technical Project Leader, Red Hat > Session 3: VPN Enterprise Implementation at Rochester Midland - Tony > Karakashian, Network Manager, Rochester Midland > Corporation > Session 4: Linux as Embedded Operating System - Rob Lembree, Technical > Director, Metro Link, Inc. > Session 5: How Sitel Worldwide Runs Call Centers Utilizing Linux - Scott > Clark, Director of Systems Engineering, Sitel Corporation > Session 6: PANEL: Server Consolidation Strategies Using Linux - Moderator: > Brian Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com > Session 7: The Enterprise Linux Desktop: Addressing Corporate Needs - Nat > Friedman, Co-founder and Vice President of Product > Development, Ximian > Session 8: Managing Linux on Datacenter Mainframe Systems - Alex deVries, > Principal Solutions Architect, Linuxcare > Session 9: The Future of Open Source Software in the Enterprise - Randy > Terbush, Managing Partner, Tribal Knowledge Group > Session 10: The Future of Datacenter Computing: How the Combination of > Storage Area Networks and Processing Area Networks > Solves Multiple Pain Points for Enterprise Datacenters > Session 11: Apache: An Enterprise-Level Server - Daniel Lopez Ridruejo, > Senior Developer, Instant802 Networks > Session 12: The Virtual Environment - Where Does Linux Fit? - Dan > Kusnetzky, Vice President, System Software Research, IDC > Session 13: Enterprise-Ready Linux on the Mainframe: The Path to Success - > Sam Greenblatt, SVP, Computer Associates > Session 14: The Linux Factor: How Linux and Friends will Reshape > Application by 2005 - Jasmine Noel, Founder and Principal, > JNoel Associates > Session 15: Rethinking the Linux Distribution: Linux as Platform, Not > Product - Ian Murdock, Progeny > Session 16: Linux Clusters and Open Source Software in the Life Sciences - > Glenn Otero, Ph.D., Founder and Principal, Linux > Prophet > Session 17: The Linux Standard Base - Changing Everything You Think About > Linux - Scott McNeil, Executive Director, Free > Standards Group > Session 18: Linux in Business: Answering Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - > Russell Pavlicek, Independent Consultant > Session 19: PANEL: Integrating Linux Into the Enterprise - Moderator: Brian > Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com > Session 20: Open Source Development Lab Data Center Linux (DCL) for OLTP > and DSS - Timothy Witham, Lab Director, Open > Source Development Lab > Session 21: Migrating C/C++ Applications from Unix to Linux - Shel Travis, > Vice President of Research, MigraTEC > Session 22: Web Services: The Killer Application for Open Source - > Christian Gross, Software Engineering Consultant > Session 23: Linux Database Clusters for High Performance Computing - Boris > C. Bialek, Manager, DB2 Strategic Technologies, > IBM Toronto Lab > Session 24: High-Performance End-to-End Computing Using Linux - Chris > Maresca, Senior Partner, Olliance Group, LLC > > **************************************************************************** > *************** > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø The older I grow, the less important the comma becomes. Let the reader catch his own breath. -- Elizabeth Clarkson Zwart

Nov. 2, 2002

Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups

by Andy Stewart

Hi Everybody, On Dec. 3 and 4, 2002, the Enterprise Linux Forum will be held at the Boston Marriot (Copley Place) in Boston, MA. We have been offered a $200 discount for WLUG members who attend the event. If you want more information, read below that which was sent to me. If you wish to go and can't read the attachments, send me e-mail. Later, Andy ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:27:15 -0500 From: Juliet Sigmann <jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com> To: andystewart(a)attbi.com Andy, I hope you do not think it too forward of me to send you this e-mail, but I came across Worcester Linux Users Group while researching Linux associations and user group sites. My company, Jupitermedia, has developed a conference that I believe will be of interest to you and other members of Worcester Linux Users Group . The name of the event is Enterprise Linux Forum Conference & Expo. For complete details on this event, visit http://www.enterpriselinuxforum.com I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 discount to attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. Registrations processed by November 19th save an additional $100 off the regular conference price. The conference offers 1-Day, 2-Day, and Expo Pass (free) passes to the event. This e-mail is not a "sales call", but is a win-win business proposition. We are seeking to drive attendance at this first time (albeit world-class) event. We can offer you and other Worcester Linux Users Group members a world class event that touches on a number of subjects via 4 comprehensive tracks that I believe would be of interest to your group such as Linux in the Datacenter; Clustered and Distributed Computing; Operations, Management and Infrastructure; and Application, Storage and Information Management. Scroll below for the complete line-up of speakers and topics to be highlighted at this event. As the conference brochure (attached in PDF format) relates, this event is set to run December 3-4, 2002 at the Boston Marriott Copley Place in Boston, MA. Currently, the event is sponsored by Red Hat (Premier Sponsor), BMC Software, Computer Associates, Dell, Egenera, IBM, NeTraverse, Oracle, Sun Microsystems, SuSE Linux, Ximian, and more. Additional supporters of the event include: Illuminata (Premier Analyst Sponsor) and association sponsors Free Standards Group, GNOME Foundation, Linux International, and Open Source Development Lab. Media sponsors include, Capterra, HostingTech, IT Toolbox, Linux Journal, and OutsourcingCentral.com. Visit the event web site at www.enterpriselinuxforum.com for the most up-to-date listing of speakers, session descriptions, sponsors, and exhibitors. Again, I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 discount to attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. As you can see from the number and quality of sponsors and speakers, this is a first rate event. I have attached with this e-mail a fax back registration form with the $200 discount as well as some copy that you could include in an email newsletter to you members or your web site. In order for your members to take advantage of this $200 discount, they will need to use the priority code assigned in the fax back form or attached copy. Please call me directly if you have any comments or questions. Sincerely, Juliet Sigmann Marketing Manager Jupitermedia Corporation (formerly INT Media Group) 30 Lyman Street, Suite 8 Westboro, MA 01581 T: 508-870-5858 x119 F: 508-870-6521 eFax: 801-761-9698 jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com www.jupitermedia.com **************************************************************************** *************** Keynotes and Sessions Click on http://www.jupiterevents.com/elf/fall02/glance.html for the complete agenda Keynote 1: The Inevitable Linux Momentum - Matthew J. Szulik, Chairman, CEO and President, Red Hat Keynote 2: Linux in Prime Time: Open Source Meets Enterprise Requirements - Jonathan Eunice, President and Principal Analyst, Illuminata Keynote 3: IBM Enterprise Solutions for Linux - Steven C. Solazzo, General Manager, Linux, IBM Keynote 4: Unbreakable Linux - Rene Bonvanie, VP of Oracle9i Marketing, Oracle Corporation Session 1: The Changing Face of Linux - David Niemi, Director of Systems Engineering, Adeptech Systems, Inc. Session 2: Linux High Availability Cluster Selection - Tim Burke, Advanced Server Technical Project Leader, Red Hat Session 3: VPN Enterprise Implementation at Rochester Midland - Tony Karakashian, Network Manager, Rochester Midland Corporation Session 4: Linux as Embedded Operating System - Rob Lembree, Technical Director, Metro Link, Inc. Session 5: How Sitel Worldwide Runs Call Centers Utilizing Linux - Scott Clark, Director of Systems Engineering, Sitel Corporation Session 6: PANEL: Server Consolidation Strategies Using Linux - Moderator: Brian Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com Session 7: The Enterprise Linux Desktop: Addressing Corporate Needs - Nat Friedman, Co-founder and Vice President of Product Development, Ximian Session 8: Managing Linux on Datacenter Mainframe Systems - Alex deVries, Principal Solutions Architect, Linuxcare Session 9: The Future of Open Source Software in the Enterprise - Randy Terbush, Managing Partner, Tribal Knowledge Group Session 10: The Future of Datacenter Computing: How the Combination of Storage Area Networks and Processing Area Networks Solves Multiple Pain Points for Enterprise Datacenters Session 11: Apache: An Enterprise-Level Server - Daniel Lopez Ridruejo, Senior Developer, Instant802 Networks Session 12: The Virtual Environment - Where Does Linux Fit? - Dan Kusnetzky, Vice President, System Software Research, IDC Session 13: Enterprise-Ready Linux on the Mainframe: The Path to Success - Sam Greenblatt, SVP, Computer Associates Session 14: The Linux Factor: How Linux and Friends will Reshape Application by 2005 - Jasmine Noel, Founder and Principal, JNoel Associates Session 15: Rethinking the Linux Distribution: Linux as Platform, Not Product - Ian Murdock, Progeny Session 16: Linux Clusters and Open Source Software in the Life Sciences - Glenn Otero, Ph.D., Founder and Principal, Linux Prophet Session 17: The Linux Standard Base - Changing Everything You Think About Linux - Scott McNeil, Executive Director, Free Standards Group Session 18: Linux in Business: Answering Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - Russell Pavlicek, Independent Consultant Session 19: PANEL: Integrating Linux Into the Enterprise - Moderator: Brian Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com Session 20: Open Source Development Lab Data Center Linux (DCL) for OLTP and DSS - Timothy Witham, Lab Director, Open Source Development Lab Session 21: Migrating C/C++ Applications from Unix to Linux - Shel Travis, Vice President of Research, MigraTEC Session 22: Web Services: The Killer Application for Open Source - Christian Gross, Software Engineering Consultant Session 23: Linux Database Clusters for High Performance Computing - Boris C. Bialek, Manager, DB2 Strategic Technologies, IBM Toronto Lab Session 24: High-Performance End-to-End Computing Using Linux - Chris Maresca, Senior Partner, Olliance Group, LLC **************************************************************************** *************** ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Nov. 1, 2002

Re: [Wlug] microphone

by Karl Hiramoto

cat /dev/dsp this is raw sound data there are docs out there on how to process it This usually works to record then play back your data cat /dev/dsp > /tmp/sound.dat cat /tmp/sound.dat >> /dev/dsp I'm sure there is a doc out there on the format of this data. On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > I've seen it working on other computers, a friend of mine at BU was > using on an AI speech recognition project. > > They were just opening /dev/dsp and reading from it. > > Can't you find something on google to solve the issue? > > > > On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Wes Allen wrote: > > > Yeah, > > Come to think of it, no computer I've ever used with Linux has had the > > microphone working. > > > > I'll have to try the alsa list...thanks! > > > > Wes > > > > On Thursday 31 October 2002 2:06 pm, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > > > OK, since nobody is answering you, I'll take a stab at it. > > > > > > Yes, I have the same problem. Can't record from the microphone or from > > > the stereo, which is plugged into the computer. Doesn't work with SuSE > > > 7.2 on a fast computer with the onboard soundcard, and it didn't work > > > with Redhat 7.0 on a slow computer with my Ensonic sound card, either. I > > > can record from CD at least three ways without any problem. And I can > > > record from my stereo or from the microphone if I use a common > > > proprietary operating system that's four years old. > > > > > > I suspect the problem is in the options section of /etc/modules.conf, > > > but I've never pursued it, and I don't know what any of those options > > > mean. There's a mailing list for the ALSA project, and I've gotten good > > > help from them in the past. They might know. > > > > > > I'll show you my modules.conf if you'll show me yours. > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > Wesley Allen wrote: > > > > Hi gang, any ideas why my microphone wouldn't be working in linux. It's > > > > set as the recording device, but isn't recording. > > > > > > > > My sound card uses the maestro3 module (ES1988 Allegro-1 card). I'm > > > > doing a search, but was wondering if any of you have had this problem. > > > > > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wlug mailing list > > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø When one burns one's bridges, what a very nice fire it makes. -- Dylan Thomas

Oct. 31, 2002

Re: [Wlug] microphone

by Karl Hiramoto

I've seen it working on other computers, a friend of mine at BU was using on an AI speech recognition project. They were just opening /dev/dsp and reading from it. Can't you find something on google to solve the issue? On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Wes Allen wrote: > Yeah, > Come to think of it, no computer I've ever used with Linux has had the > microphone working. > > I'll have to try the alsa list...thanks! > > Wes > > On Thursday 31 October 2002 2:06 pm, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > > OK, since nobody is answering you, I'll take a stab at it. > > > > Yes, I have the same problem. Can't record from the microphone or from > > the stereo, which is plugged into the computer. Doesn't work with SuSE > > 7.2 on a fast computer with the onboard soundcard, and it didn't work > > with Redhat 7.0 on a slow computer with my Ensonic sound card, either. I > > can record from CD at least three ways without any problem. And I can > > record from my stereo or from the microphone if I use a common > > proprietary operating system that's four years old. > > > > I suspect the problem is in the options section of /etc/modules.conf, > > but I've never pursued it, and I don't know what any of those options > > mean. There's a mailing list for the ALSA project, and I've gotten good > > help from them in the past. They might know. > > > > I'll show you my modules.conf if you'll show me yours. > > > > Greg > > > > Wesley Allen wrote: > > > Hi gang, any ideas why my microphone wouldn't be working in linux. It's > > > set as the recording device, but isn't recording. > > > > > > My sound card uses the maestro3 module (ES1988 Allegro-1 card). I'm > > > doing a search, but was wondering if any of you have had this problem. > > > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø When one burns one's bridges, what a very nice fire it makes. -- Dylan Thomas

Oct. 31, 2002

Re: [Wlug] microphone

by Wes Allen

Yeah, Come to think of it, no computer I've ever used with Linux has had the microphone working. I'll have to try the alsa list...thanks! Wes On Thursday 31 October 2002 2:06 pm, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > OK, since nobody is answering you, I'll take a stab at it. > > Yes, I have the same problem. Can't record from the microphone or from > the stereo, which is plugged into the computer. Doesn't work with SuSE > 7.2 on a fast computer with the onboard soundcard, and it didn't work > with Redhat 7.0 on a slow computer with my Ensonic sound card, either. I > can record from CD at least three ways without any problem. And I can > record from my stereo or from the microphone if I use a common > proprietary operating system that's four years old. > > I suspect the problem is in the options section of /etc/modules.conf, > but I've never pursued it, and I don't know what any of those options > mean. There's a mailing list for the ALSA project, and I've gotten good > help from them in the past. They might know. > > I'll show you my modules.conf if you'll show me yours. > > Greg > > Wesley Allen wrote: > > Hi gang, any ideas why my microphone wouldn't be working in linux. It's > > set as the recording device, but isn't recording. > > > > My sound card uses the maestro3 module (ES1988 Allegro-1 card). I'm > > doing a search, but was wondering if any of you have had this problem. > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Oct. 31, 2002

Re: [Wlug] microphone

by Gregory Avedissian

OK, since nobody is answering you, I'll take a stab at it. Yes, I have the same problem. Can't record from the microphone or from the stereo, which is plugged into the computer. Doesn't work with SuSE 7.2 on a fast computer with the onboard soundcard, and it didn't work with Redhat 7.0 on a slow computer with my Ensonic sound card, either. I can record from CD at least three ways without any problem. And I can record from my stereo or from the microphone if I use a common proprietary operating system that's four years old. I suspect the problem is in the options section of /etc/modules.conf, but I've never pursued it, and I don't know what any of those options mean. There's a mailing list for the ALSA project, and I've gotten good help from them in the past. They might know. I'll show you my modules.conf if you'll show me yours. Greg Wesley Allen wrote: > Hi gang, any ideas why my microphone wouldn't be working in linux. It's > set as the recording device, but isn't recording. > > My sound card uses the maestro3 module (ES1988 Allegro-1 card). I'm > doing a search, but was wondering if any of you have had this problem. > > Wes > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Oct. 31, 2002

DNS Resolve from the Internet

by jose sanchez

Hello: Please help me get this straight. I am confused. I have a dnscache running at home on a DMZ network. I would like to know if I can have friends on other networks (in the Internet) to use my server as their resolver server? I have a firewall in place but, I'm directing all the udp traffic to port 53 to my dns-server; also my dnscache server is accepting connections from those networks ip's. Can I do this or do I need to register ($$$$$) a the dns-server? Thanks in advance for your help.... ===== "An ounce of gold cannot buy an ounce of time." - Anonymous www.whmicro.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/

Oct. 31, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Sendmail 8.11.6 (was building RH7.3 after hack)

by Theo Van Dinter

On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:53:05AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > 1. sendmail is broken up into 2 separate processes for security > reasons. One is outgoing, the other is incoming. that's sendmail 8.12. 8.11 is still the single monolithic sendmail. > 2. /etc/sendmail.cf is no longer used. There are several files in > /etc/mail to replace /etc/sendmail.cf. Actually it's still just sendmail.cf for the daemon, but it is under /etc/mail now. There's also a submit.cf for the "client" portion. What are the errors that are being seen? That wasn't specifically mentioned in the original post. There was something about the "MX loops back to me" thing, but I don't know if that's the error you're seeing or not. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "A way out of financial mess is discovered as if by magic!" - stupid fortune cookie

Oct. 31, 2002

Re: [Wlug] rpm lock-up

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Josh Huber wrote: > Bill Mills-Curran <subssn594(a)charter.net> writes: > > > Now, that user account can no longer do any rpm commands from any > > session -- it always hangs. You can kill -9 the existing rpm > > processes, but nothing I've tried helps until reboot. > > Perhaps there is some kind of stale lock file sitting around? > > I don't use rpm, but I'd suggest running strace on the rpm command to > see what the problem might be. > > strace rpm <args> > > -- > Josh Huber Josh, Just by coincidence, I just ran "strace -ppid" on the "locked-up" process. It's in a select/timeout loop. I just tried Charles Anderson's suggestion (his email came shortly after yours). That cured the lock-up. Now on to see if I can get something done... Thanks, Bill

Oct. 31, 2002

Re: [Wlug] microphone

by Bill Smith

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:35:06 -0500 (EST) Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> wrote: KH> cat /dev/dsp KH> KH> this is raw sound data there are docs out there on how to process KH> it KH> KH> This usually works to record then play back your data KH> KH> cat /dev/dsp > /tmp/sound.dat KH> cat /tmp/sound.dat >> /dev/dsp KH> KH> I'm sure there is a doc out there on the format of this data. if memory serves, it's something akin to .au .... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com He who spins a web of trickery must expect to end up caught. * TAG! v3.1 *

Oct. 31, 2002

Re: [Wlug] rpm lock-up

by Charles R. Anderson

Documented bug in rpm-4.1. To fix: kill -9 the hung rpm process rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db* If it still hangs, repeat that process and add this step: rpm --rebuilddb On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 09:52:31AM -0500, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> 2. Ctrl-C out. You won't get the shell prompt back. subssn594> Now, that user account can no longer do any rpm commands from any subssn594> session -- it always hangs. You can kill -9 the existing rpm subssn594> processes, but nothing I've tried helps until reboot. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 31, 2002

Re: [Wlug] rpm lock-up

by Josh Huber

Bill Mills-Curran <subssn594(a)charter.net> writes: > Now, that user account can no longer do any rpm commands from any > session -- it always hangs. You can kill -9 the existing rpm > processes, but nothing I've tried helps until reboot. Perhaps there is some kind of stale lock file sitting around? I don't use rpm, but I'd suggest running strace on the rpm command to see what the problem might be. strace rpm <args> -- Josh Huber

Oct. 31, 2002

jsut a thought

by doug waud

Hi all After the neglegible turnout of "customers" for our most recent installfest there was some discussion aa to whether the day of the installfest is past and we should look for other ways to serve the community. In this context I found this morning's (Oct 31) T&G had an interesting article which may provice a template for what we might now do. In a nutshell they described (pages A1 and A11) the Atlantic Paranormsl Society who for the past 12 years send out teams to help people who are having trouble with "domestic disturbances like eerie noises and signs of spirit possession". Their website, http://the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/ gets 6000 hits a day from around the world" (they do not say whether setag lib is among them). They do not charge for their "work" and say "the rich and poor both need help" and say "Also how can you charge for something that cannot be proved to exist" (which does not seem to stop Micro$oft!). They have about 25 regular members, consult with a network of similar groups and gather at an eatery (Starbucks, not the Boynton). I suggest that, if you can find today's T&G you read the article since I cannot do justice to it here. For example, I learned about the taxonomy: Hauntings Human Intelligent spirits (they talk) Residuals (leftover energies condemned to repeat one small action from their lives) Poltergeists ("usually the spirits of young girls which make a racket and and can wreak havoc on property values") Inhuman Demons Incubuses Succubi Nature spirits Angles Apparently the human variety are the more "benign" while the others "can be viscious and deceitful", says "Never believe anything you hear from an inhuman haunting". Apparently other groups often get in over their heads and haveto call in his crew to "clean things up". (This is getting long; check out the T&G if you do not wish to miss the full picture.) Now I realixe some of this may sound scary but we would have the advantage that we could send Keith in first to scare the spirits! :-) So, instead of instalfests we could adapt to the times and move into deinstallfests! doug

Oct. 31, 2002

rpm lock-up

by Bill Mills-Curran

HELP! I seem to have done something very bad (SVB) to rpm. And, it seems to be painfully reproducible (I did it to two machines). Short explanation: 1. Do some rpm command (I was using "rpm -e", I think). 2. Ctrl-C out. You won't get the shell prompt back. Now, that user account can no longer do any rpm commands from any session -- it always hangs. You can kill -9 the existing rpm processes, but nothing I've tried helps until reboot. Longer explanation: 1. I wanted to upgrade a couple of packages: perl-GD and perl-Chart. I don't know where I got the old packages :-( , but I made some new ones of my own. 2. Instead of doing "rpm -F", I forgot that the perl modules were installed from an rpm in an older perl library area, and I deleted the module files (rm). (oops) (Is this clear?) 3. When attempting to install the new rpm's, I got error messages, so I tried "rpm -e" on the old package. That failed due to dependencies, so I added "--nodep" to the command. This was taking a long time (hung?), so I ctrl-c'ed out. Now all rpm commands (from the root account) hung. 4. I rebooted this morning. The rpm commands were working ok (at least "rpm -qa" worked), so I tried "rpm -F <packageFileName>" (as root), and it's hung. 5. From another window (also as root), "rpm -qa" hangs again. 6. From a different account, "rpm -qa" works fine. HELP! 1. How do I fix things and get my new packages in? 2. Is the database corrupted? 3. If the database is corrupted, how do I fix it? Thanks, Bill

Oct. 31, 2002

Sendmail 8.11.6 (was building RH7.3 after hack)

by Richard Goodman

I spent four hours on Google last night about this problem. Saw reports of the same messages, but not the same situation. SUMMARY: 3 separate servers upgraded from RH7.0 to RH7.3 - all can send/receive mail locally and to/from the outside world EXCEPT for/from each other - which was not a problem under RH7.0. Do not believe there are errors in config files, particularly /etc/mail/local-host-names, and I have read the part of the sendmail FAQ about "mail loops back to me" and it DOES NOT APPLY in this case. I've been through what sendmail documentation I can understand - can someone tell me what has changed somewhere prior to or at 8.11.6 which shipped with RH7.3 that might cause this? I have another identically hacked RH7.0 server which I hope to rebuild/upgrade tonight - it will be interesting to see if all FOUR servers have the same problem. I'm losing mail which is supposed to be forwarded between these servers. Dick

Oct. 31, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Sendmail 8.11.6 (was building RH7.3 after hack)

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Richard Goodman wrote: > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:35:47 -0500 > From: Richard Goodman <dick(a)goodman1.net> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Sendmail 8.11.6 (was building RH7.3 after hack) > <snip> > SUMMARY: 3 separate servers upgraded from RH7.0 to RH7.3 - all can > send/receive mail locally and to/from the outside world EXCEPT > for/from each other - which was not a problem under RH7.0. Do not > believe there are errors in config files, particularly > /etc/mail/local-host-names, and I have read the part of the sendmail > FAQ about "mail loops back to me" and it DOES NOT APPLY in this case. > > I've been through what sendmail documentation I can understand - can > someone tell me what has changed somewhere prior to or at 8.11.6 > which shipped with RH7.3 that might cause this? > > I have another identically hacked RH7.0 server which I hope to > rebuild/upgrade tonight - it will be interesting to see if all FOUR > servers have the same problem. > > I'm losing mail which is supposed to be forwarded between these servers. > > Dick > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > Dick, I fought throught this myself recently when going from RedHat 7.1 to 8.0. I believe (not sure!) that the change occurred in RedHat 7.3. 1. sendmail is broken up into 2 separate processes for security reasons. One is outgoing, the other is incoming. 2. /etc/sendmail.cf is no longer used. There are several files in /etc/mail to replace /etc/sendmail.cf. 3. The new *.cf files are generated from several macro-preprocessed files. You get to edit sendmail.mc and submit.mc. The documentation in /usr/share/doc/sendmail/README.cf is good, but long. 4. The *.cf files are generated by the macro files when you start the service. (See /etc/mail/Makefile.) 5. The file /etc/mail/access can define where your server will accept relay mail from. I used the access file to allow all my domain machines to be able to use my alias list. However, I suspect that I should be handling my aliases differently -- I haven't gotten around to figuring it out yet, but this now works. I wish I could help more, but I'm pretty green with sendmail. Bill

Oct. 31, 2002

RE: [Wlug] RH 7.2 - Installing and configureing openssl, modssl, apache, and php

by Setag Lib

Redhat has RPMS for apache, php, and ssl that all play nice together. Use those unless you have some weird requirement where you absolutly need to build your own. BUT, make sure to download the updated SSL libraries from RedHat! The ones on the CD have a remote exploit in them that you will want to close. If you do NEED to compile your own apache, ssl, etc ... then there is this nifty project called "The apache toolbox" http://www.apachetoolbox.com/ which makes the process much much easier. Since it can be difficult getting all those to work right, I'd suggest trying that. I'd un-install all of the current apache stuff you have before doing that.

Oct. 31, 2002

RH 7.2 - Installing and configureing openssl, modssl, apache, and php

by Aramico

Hi all, I've got a problem..... And this not a kind of beginner's problem....... Actually I'm developing a server with this defined need such as openssl, modssl, apache, and php. The problem is..... I've done these listed on my attachement step to install all my need.... -------------------------------------------------------- The results are like these both bellow...... 1. apache, php and its need runs well, but modssl and ssl are not workin'... ;( 2. apache with modssl is wrokin' fine, but the apache could not understand the php's need....... So, what is the correct step to get what i want.... What i want is only get apache, openssl,modssl,postgresql, and php's need installed....... Thanx.........

Oct. 31, 2002

microphone

by Wesley Allen

Hi gang, any ideas why my microphone wouldn't be working in linux. It's set as the recording device, but isn't recording. My sound card uses the maestro3 module (ES1988 Allegro-1 card). I'm doing a search, but was wondering if any of you have had this problem. Wes

Oct. 31, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation ofgraphsinredhat6.2

by Sudhaker P

Hi Marc, I'll do that. I'll install Xvfb and follow your instructions and will keep you informed on the results. Thank you for your patience and your help. --Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >ofgraphsinredhat6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:04:48 -0500 > >Yup > >I believe it's on the RedHat CD's. > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:49 PM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >ofgraphsinredhat6.2 > > >Hi Marc, >Is Xvfb a software that I can download and install? > >-Sudhakar > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphsinredhat6.2 > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:40:55 -0500 > > > > > >So you're saying that you can use X on the machine, right? If so, I'd > >look > >other places for the problem. > > > >Double check that your DISPLAY is set properly and access is enabled. > >This > >was the exact same error message I used to get when java couldn't connect > >to the xserver. > > > >I find doing something like this: > > > >nohup Xvfb :1 -screen 0 800x600x24 & > >sleep 5 > >export DISPLAY=localhost:1 > >xhost + > >SERVERCOMMAND <- (Whatever you need to do to start the server) > > > >Is best since it uses a virtual x server instead of the real one. This > >works around your problem, but is probably the "correct" way to do it > >anyways. > > > > > >-Marc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:23 PM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphsinredhat6.2 > > > > > >Hi Marc, > >The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing > >all the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was > >wondering if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. > >My output for $ps auwx | grep X is as below > >root 14500 0.0 0.0 2220 980 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 /bin/sh > >/usr/X11R6/bin/startx > >root 14507 0.0 0.0 2344 668 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 xinit > >/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- > >root 14508 0.7 0.3 18156 7956 ? S< 09:44 1:07 /etc/X11/X > >:0 > > > >I'd appreciate your suggestions and comments in this regard. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:55:29 -0500 > > > > > >What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other > > >symptoms besides the java connection to it? > > > > > >Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you > > >probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What > > >Xserver are you running? > > > > > >If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? > > > > > >-Marc > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > > > > > > > > >Hi Marc, > > >Thanks for the reply. > > >I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its > > >on the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- > > >server seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any > > >kind of information with the help of which I can fix the issue of > > >broken X-windows. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > > > > > > > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it > > > >look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? > > > >If so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable > > > >correctly? Does > > >the > > > >server process have access to the Xserver? > > > > > > > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? > > > >Without a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical > > > >operations, even if > > >those > > > >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue > > > >that > > >a > > > >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run > > > >Xvfb > > >... > > > >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver > > > >to play with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-Marc > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM > > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is > > > >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. > > > >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of > > > >X-windows. > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > > > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > > >generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > > > > > > > >Hi Karl, > > > > >Thanks a lot for the response. > > > > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic > > > > >log java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEn > > > >vi > > > >ronment.java:58) > > > > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > > > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown > > >Source) > > > > > at > > > > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Un > > > > >kn > > > > >ow > > > > >n > > > > >Source) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.j > > > >av > > > >a:356) > > > > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStub > > > >Im > > > >pl.java:123) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > > >on > > > >textImpl.java:761) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > > >on > > > >textImpl.java:708) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(Servl > > > >et > > > >ContextManager.java:252) > > > > > at > > > > > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.j > > > >av > > > >a:346) > > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > > > > at > > > > >weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > > > > > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs > > > > >could be the reason and X might be broken. > > > > > > > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > > > > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > > > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > > > > >> > > > > >>Get any errors on your command line? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to > > > > >>verify that it is the kernel? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Hi , > > > > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The > > > > >> > same > > > > >>program is > > > > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel > > > > >> > 2.4.16 but it > > > > >>fails > > > > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 > > > > >> > on which it > > > > >>used > > > > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > > > > >> > something > > > > >>may > > > > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that > > > > >> > doesn't seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can > > > > >> > guide me in this issue with your comments and suggestions. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Thanks, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Peram > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > >> > __ > > > > >> > __ > > > > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > > > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > Wlug mailing list > > > > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >>-- > > > > >> > > > > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > > > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > > > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > > > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > > > > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > > > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > > > > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > > > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > > > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > > > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > > > >> > > > > >>Confirmed bachelor: > > > > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > > >>Wlug mailing list > > > > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! 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Oct. 30, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation ofgraphsinredhat6.2

by Marc Hughes

Yup I believe it's on the RedHat CD's. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:49 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation ofgraphsinredhat6.2 Hi Marc, Is Xvfb a software that I can download and install? -Sudhakar >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphsinredhat6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:40:55 -0500 > > >So you're saying that you can use X on the machine, right? If so, I'd >look >other places for the problem. > >Double check that your DISPLAY is set properly and access is enabled. >This >was the exact same error message I used to get when java couldn't connect >to the xserver. > >I find doing something like this: > >nohup Xvfb :1 -screen 0 800x600x24 & >sleep 5 >export DISPLAY=localhost:1 >xhost + >SERVERCOMMAND <- (Whatever you need to do to start the server) > >Is best since it uses a virtual x server instead of the real one. This >works around your problem, but is probably the "correct" way to do it >anyways. > > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:23 PM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphsinredhat6.2 > > >Hi Marc, >The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing >all the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was >wondering if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. >My output for $ps auwx | grep X is as below >root 14500 0.0 0.0 2220 980 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 /bin/sh >/usr/X11R6/bin/startx >root 14507 0.0 0.0 2344 668 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 xinit >/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- >root 14508 0.7 0.3 18156 7956 ? S< 09:44 1:07 /etc/X11/X >:0 > >I'd appreciate your suggestions and comments in this regard. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:55:29 -0500 > > > >What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other > >symptoms besides the java connection to it? > > > >Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you > >probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What > >Xserver are you running? > > > >If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? > > > >-Marc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of graphs inredhat6.2 > > > > > >Hi Marc, > >Thanks for the reply. > >I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its > >on the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- > >server seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any > >kind of information with the help of which I can fix the issue of > >broken X-windows. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > > > > > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it > > >look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? > > >If so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable > > >correctly? Does > >the > > >server process have access to the Xserver? > > > > > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? > > >Without a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical > > >operations, even if > >those > > >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue > > >that > >a > > >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run > > >Xvfb > >... > > >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver > > >to play with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-Marc > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > >generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is > > >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. > > >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of > > >X-windows. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > > > > > >Hi Karl, > > > >Thanks a lot for the response. > > > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic > > > >log java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > > > at > > > > > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEn > > >vi > > >ronment.java:58) > > > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown > >Source) > > > > at > > > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Un > > > >kn > > > >ow > > > >n > > > >Source) > > > > at > > > > > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.j > > >av > > >a:356) > > > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStub > > >Im > > >pl.java:123) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > >on > > >textImpl.java:761) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletC > > >on > > >textImpl.java:708) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(Servl > > >et > > >ContextManager.java:252) > > > > at > > > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.j > > >av > > >a:346) > > > > at > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > > > at > > > >weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > > > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs > > > >could be the reason and X might be broken. > > > > > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > > > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > > > >> > > > >>Get any errors on your command line? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to > > > >>verify that it is the kernel? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > Hi , > > > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The > > > >> > same > > > >>program is > > > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel > > > >> > 2.4.16 but it > > > >>fails > > > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 > > > >> > on which it > > > >>used > > > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > > > >> > something > > > >>may > > > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that > > > >> > doesn't seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can > > > >> > guide me in this issue with your comments and suggestions. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thanks, > > > >> > > > > >> > Peram > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > _____________________________________________________________ > > > >> > __ > > > >> > __ > > > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > >> > Wlug mailing list > > > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >>-- > > > >> > > > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > > > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > > > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > > >> > > > >>Confirmed bachelor: > > > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > >>Wlug mailing list > > > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! 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Oct. 30, 2002