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Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs in redhat 6.2

by Tom Guilderson

Peram, the top of the stack indicates that the java class loader can not find a particular class needed by java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment() Looking quickly at the javadocs for this - GraphicsEnvirpnment refers to the rendering target of the Graphics2D object. Most likely this method expects to find a target - meaning not only a configured X server - but a running X-server??? Was the X server running on the other machine when you weblogic server was running? If so start X on the other machine, then start weblogic and see what happens. If it is not that - then the problem is that one of the native X windows libraries is missing. If you figure out which java_vm binary is being executed (probably $JAVA_HOME/jre/bin/i386/native_threads/java_vm, then runn ldd against it to see what libraries it relies on - and it will also tell you which it can not find - the two X libraries it is looking for are most likely libX11 and LibXt - make sure both are installed. If you already solved the problem - I would be interested in hearing what it is. One last thought - Have you looked at the servlet code - specifically the makeGraph() method? That is the last method in your code I can see on the stack (the rest are awt stuff) to see if there is any references to a display target? On Tuesday 29 October 2002 17:03, Sudhaker P wrote: > Hi Tim, > Thanks for the reply. > The version of JDK differ the version I'm having issues with is 1.3.1_01 > and the ones the code is running successfully is 1.3.0_02, however the > graphs were being produced before. > The following is the Weblogic log which I'd appreciate if you can look at > and tell what could be the issue in your view: > java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > at > java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironmen >t.java:58) at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) > at > com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown > Source) > at > jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > at > weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.jav >a:123) at > weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextIm >pl.java:761) at > weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextIm >pl.java:708) at > weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContex >tManager.java:252) at > weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > at > weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > I've done some reading and feel that awt uses X-windows and I think that > might be broken. > > I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > Thanks, > > Peram > > > > > > > From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: "'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org'" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of > >graphs in redhat 6.2 > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:45:42 -0500 > > > >Peram, > > > >I'll ask an obvious question... You've verified that both machines running > >the same version of the java run time environment? > > > >Also, does the entire applet fail or does it just fail to display the > >graph. > >If so, you might have to insert some code to catch exceptions... Possibly > >some library has gotten mangled... > > > >Hope that helps, > >Tim. > > > >-----Original Message----- > > From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 14:35 PM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of > >graphs in redhat 6.2 > > > > > >Hi , > >I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same program > >is > > > >able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but it > > fails to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on > > which it used > > > >to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that something may > >broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't seem to > >help. > >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in this issue with your > >comments and suggestions. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _________________________________________________________________ > Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Nov. 4, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Routing problem -can I believe the ISP tech? #2

by George Metz

Reply's interspersed: > I just brought up my fourth RH7.3 server Friday afternoon (one of two > RH7.0 servers that had been hacked-new hard drive and software). I > then went home and spent a couple of hours connected to it with ssh > on a workstation connected to my home RH7.3 server. > > When I went to rerun a slightly modified (open ports for ftp and > internal dhcp twiddling) ipchains firewall I lost the connection, > and, more than 16 hours later, don't have it back. Smells like a typo referencing - specifically - Home's IP address or block, based on this. Double and triple check your firewall configs as a first step. If those are clean: > Home and EFO are on the same ISP and each has a block of 4 static > IPs. The blocks share the first 18 bits of their IP#s. Above tidbit might be important later. And actually, they're listing in your config as blocks of 8, with 6 useable. > Home now cannot connect to EFO via ssh, or access its web site. Pings > are disabled on all my servers - so I can't do that test. I STRONGLY recommend that you re-enable ping on both Home and EFO servers in order to perform this test. Firstly, it's really difficult to pingflood a box these days, second, it's a pretty darned useful indicator. This can be gotten around though, so if you're leery - say, you've been pingflooded recently - then skip it. Run a traceroute to Home from EFO and to EFO from Home. That will tell you, at the very least, where the traffic is dying. > EFO network workstations can browse the web; I can ping out from the > EFO linux box or workstations, and can ping EFO's Cisco 678 router > from its Linux box All good here. > EFO workstations cannot access Home websites (but I had not tried > this before since rebuilding EFO Linux box Most likely a symptom of the overall problem, but don't forget to test again. > Home Cisco 678 cannot be pinged from Home Linux box (!) or EFO (Linux > or workstation), but can be pinged from my office (Linux box on other > ISP). Uh... Houston, we have a problem. If the tech IS being straight with you, then the issue has to be on both sites, but one site is severely impairing the other. > >From my office workstation I can also ssh to EFO and access > EFO website (which in fact I uploaded to the new server from my > office today). Does this discount the possibility of a firewall issue? Not even remotely. All it proves out is that there's no rule in the firewall to block access from your office's IP addresses. There still might be a rule in place to block access to and/or from one site to the other. Note also that this is really easy to do accidentally, because one word change can totally break the intended rule. I'll let someone with more IPChains/IPTables experience help with that one. > I spent countless hours talking to the ISP (Qwest) tech support, and > over an hour with a senior tech who had some Linux knowledge, and he > claims that it must be a configuration issue on one or both of my > Home and EFO Linux boxes, since: > > He can login to both my Cisco routers and ping the other router - > he claims this proves its not a Qwest routing problem. Provisionally, this is correct. The provision has to do with whether or not the tech just ran "ping -c 100 ip.for.efo.site" or if he actually did the CORRECT thing and sourced it off of your Ethernet interface on the router. If Qwest is misrouting your allocation, all sorts of things can go wonky. The only way to test that would be to source off the ethernet IP address from both routers to the same. A straight ping will simply do the WAN IP, which (of course) is routed correctly on Qwest's network. I'm not sure about the Cisco 678s, since I never crawled around in one, but if it's running a standard flavor of Cisco IOS, he should be able to source it off of just about anything he wants to. If he's a senior tech with a clue, it's entirely possible that he did source off the ethernet interface, in which case it's back to config issue. > If he's right I'm still puzzled by two things: > a) Why could I connect from Home to EFO for two hours last night, > no problems? > b) Why can't the Home Linux box ping the Cisco 678 directly > connected to it? The former is simple; most likely the error causing the issue was introduced when you made whatever changes you did. The latter has all sorts of interesting possibilities, but there's no way of knowing without having access to both the 678 and the linux box and about an hour to monkey around. I note that you don't mention whether or not Home can access The World At Large, though you do mention it with the EFO site. Also, as I mentioned above, you're showing as having an assigned block of 8 IPs, of which 6 are normally useable. Knock out one for the router, and that leaves 5 assignable. Since 4 IPs is a little wierd, are you sure that you don't have either more and Qwest is just being stubborn, or perhaps they've routed them differently? Others will probably have an idea or two as well, but this to me just screams config error. Which might be why the tech was convinced of it. =)

Nov. 3, 2002

Routing problem -can I believe the ISP tech? #2

by Richard Goodman

My apologies for the HTML, it was not intentional. I was trying to make part of the email more (not less) readable. I've changed options so hopefully it will never happen again. ======== I just brought up my fourth RH7.3 server Friday afternoon (one of two RH7.0 servers that had been hacked-new hard drive and software). I then went home and spent a couple of hours connected to it with ssh on a workstation connected to my home RH7.3 server. When I went to rerun a slightly modified (open ports for ftp and internal dhcp twiddling) ipchains firewall I lost the connection, and, more than 16 hours later, don't have it back. Other relevant details. (let's call the servers Home and EFO) Home was the other hacked server, and was formatted and rebuilt last weekend. Home and EFO are on the same ISP and each has a block of 4 static IPs. The blocks share the first 18 bits of their IP#s. Home could connect to EFO last night Home now cannot connect to EFO via ssh, or access its web site. Pings are disabled on all my servers - so I can't do that test. EFO network workstations can browse the web; I can ping out from the EFO linux box or workstations, and can ping EFO's Cisco 678 router from its Linux box EFO workstations cannot access Home websites (but I had not tried this before since rebuilding EFO Linux box Home Cisco 678 cannot be pinged from Home Linux box (!) or EFO (Linux or workstation), but can be pinged from my office (Linux box on other ISP). >From my office workstation I can also ssh to EFO and access EFO website (which in fact I uploaded to the new server from my office today). Does this discount the possibility of a firewall issue? I spent countless hours talking to the ISP (Qwest) tech support, and over an hour with a senior tech who had some Linux knowledge, and he claims that it must be a configuration issue on one or both of my Home and EFO Linux boxes, since: He can login to both my Cisco routers and ping the other router - he claims this proves its not a Qwest routing problem. If he's right I'm still puzzled by two things: a) Why could I connect from Home to EFO for two hours last night, no problems? b) Why can't the Home Linux box ping the Cisco 678 directly connected to it? I knew nothing about routing before today - here's the Home routing table: route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface xxx.yyy.28.48 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 xxx.yyy.28.54 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 I tried the following but still could not access EFO (added just the EFO IP#, not the network block: #route add -host xxx.yyy.26.57 dev eth0 # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface xxx.yyy.26.57 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 eth0 xxx.yyy.28.48 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 xxx.yyy.28.54 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 Is this enough if to decide if the tech is right or crazy? Any suggestions - I still can't access Home from/to EFO. Dick

Nov. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Looking for networking information

by Brett Russ

> Hi, I recently acquired another pc and I want to incorporate it into my > home network. Does anyone know of a website that has information on how to > install and operate a windows based pc on a network? And I am looking for > more information on networking in general. See the linux doc. project website, particularly the guides section here: http://www.tldp.org/guides.html where you will find the Network Administrators Guide which is pretty informative. -Brett

Nov. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] ticked at netgear

by Wes Allen

Good advice, never tell them you're using linux. Actually, it is not a hardware problem (though it sure looked like one). Mandrake issued a new version of initscripts that "fixed" wireless network link problems. And I installed it, however, I never rebooted my machine and the interface was already up, so I didn't notice the problem until this afternoon when I turned on my laptop. I read the comments for the updates and found the issue. Updates that break things, I'm having windows flash-backs. Wes On Saturday 02 November 2002 5:42 pm, Wes Allen wrote: > Hi gang, > I've got a ma401 card from netgear. It worked beautifully under linux > (better than in windows even). Today I switch on my laptop, and I no > longer get a link to my network with the card. I figure I must've had a > power glitch and my firewall isn't giving out dhcp address, so I restart > it. Still no link. I check the settings of my wireless router, all good. > I boot my desktop to see if my usb wireless card works, it does. None of > my settings on my laptop have changed, I checked. I tweak with iwconfig > until my hands are sore, no luck. So I finally call netgear because I > figure that it is a hardware issue and I need to send in the card to have > at least the antenna replaced. Tech support says, "I'm sorry but we can > only trouble-shoot on windows so we can't help you." I tell them, "It's > not a software issue, nothing has changed with my software from last night, > everything is the same, the card is not picking up the link from the > router, it's not functioning, it's a hardware issue..." They say, "But we > need to troubleshoot in windows." I say, "Look, I've turned encryption on > and off, I've tried different modes, I've tried different channels, I've > turned rts and frag on and off [note: now it's not accepting values, > another clue that this is a hardware problem]. Nothing works, your card is > broken and I want to send it in." I'm told to hold. "I'm sorry, we cannot > help you. We need to troubleshoot in windows." I slam the phone on the > reciever so hard I think I nearly break it. Now I am pissed, and I still > have a broken card. > > Does anyone else have any history with wireless antennas not working all > of the sudden? This card hasn't even been out of the house, I leave it > here when I go out for crying out loud! > > My next attempt will to disable encryption and go back to wvlan_cs to see > if that jogs this thing. But I truly think it's hardware; nothing, > NOTHING, on my laptop changed, I didn't even turn it on this morning! > > Wes -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Nov. 3, 2002

Re: [Wlug] non-windows trouble shooting

by Charles R. Anderson

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 05:47:48PM -0500, Karl Hiramoto wrote: karl> They only want to talk to you if you run that windows crap. I just karl> tell myself that the tech-support guys are too dumb to be able to karl> figure out how to do anything with Linux. If you are lucky enough to have experience on the Windows side to know how things work, you can just "pretend" to do what they ask and feed them "fake" information. Worked for me in the past... -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] non-windows trouble shooting

by Brian J.Conway

> I've had the problem with everything from DSL connections, cable > modems, printers, hard drives, modems etc. I find that it's works out well that if I'm paying for a product or service, anything that I might come in contact with tech support for is platform independent. For instance, I have systems on both AT&T Broadband and Speakeasy DSL, the troubleshooting for which takes place with the computer unplugged and is in no way dependant on the computer/router connected. Obviously there's not much you can do with a device that's plugged into your computer other than keep a Windows partition around or go without support if that's a company's policy, I suppose. > They only want to talk to you if you run that windows crap. I just > tell myself that the tech-support guys are too dumb to be able to > figure out how to do anything with Linux. I just tell myself that as much as I might like Linux, it doesn't make sense to spend the huge amount of resources it would take to be able to officially support an operating system (in all its incarnations) that a minimal percentage of their users use. Speakeasy won't officially support Linux, but their techs are pretty smart and can troubleshoot most issues from their own knowledge. Brian J. Conway bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

Nov. 2, 2002

non-windows trouble shooting

by Karl Hiramoto

I've had the problem with everything from DSL connections, cable modems, printers, hard drives, modems etc. They only want to talk to you if you run that windows crap. I just tell myself that the tech-support guys are too dumb to be able to figure out how to do anything with Linux. I can partially understand that Linux is more complex than windows, there are way more platforms, kernel versions, distributions and whatever to support. By only supporting windows i suppose they make it idiot proof by reducing the number of variables/complexities. On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Wes Allen wrote: > Hi gang, > I've got a ma401 card from netgear. It worked beautifully under linux > (better than in windows even). Today I switch on my laptop, and I no longer > get a link to my network with the card. I figure I must've had a power > glitch and my firewall isn't giving out dhcp address, so I restart it. Still > no link. I check the settings of my wireless router, all good. I boot my > desktop to see if my usb wireless card works, it does. None of my settings > on my laptop have changed, I checked. I tweak with iwconfig until my hands > are sore, no luck. So I finally call netgear because I figure that it is a > hardware issue and I need to send in the card to have at least the antenna > replaced. Tech support says, "I'm sorry but we can only trouble-shoot on > windows so we can't help you." I tell them, "It's not a software issue, > nothing has changed with my software from last night, everything is the same, > the card is not picking up the link from the router, it's not functioning, > it's a hardware issue..." They say, "But we need to troubleshoot in > windows." I say, "Look, I've turned encryption on and off, I've tried > different modes, I've tried different channels, I've turned rts and frag on > and off [note: now it's not accepting values, another clue that this is a > hardware problem]. Nothing works, your card is broken and I want to send it > in." I'm told to hold. "I'm sorry, we cannot help you. We need to > troubleshoot in windows." I slam the phone on the reciever so hard I think I > nearly break it. Now I am pissed, and I still have a broken card. > > Does anyone else have any history with wireless antennas not working all of > the sudden? This card hasn't even been out of the house, I leave it here > when I go out for crying out loud! > > My next attempt will to disable encryption and go back to wvlan_cs to see if > that jogs this thing. But I truly think it's hardware; nothing, NOTHING, on > my laptop changed, I didn't even turn it on this morning! > > Wes > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø I never said all Democrats were saloonkeepers; what I said was all saloonkeepers were Democrats.

Nov. 2, 2002

ticked at netgear

by Wes Allen

Hi gang, I've got a ma401 card from netgear. It worked beautifully under linux (better than in windows even). Today I switch on my laptop, and I no longer get a link to my network with the card. I figure I must've had a power glitch and my firewall isn't giving out dhcp address, so I restart it. Still no link. I check the settings of my wireless router, all good. I boot my desktop to see if my usb wireless card works, it does. None of my settings on my laptop have changed, I checked. I tweak with iwconfig until my hands are sore, no luck. So I finally call netgear because I figure that it is a hardware issue and I need to send in the card to have at least the antenna replaced. Tech support says, "I'm sorry but we can only trouble-shoot on windows so we can't help you." I tell them, "It's not a software issue, nothing has changed with my software from last night, everything is the same, the card is not picking up the link from the router, it's not functioning, it's a hardware issue..." They say, "But we need to troubleshoot in windows." I say, "Look, I've turned encryption on and off, I've tried different modes, I've tried different channels, I've turned rts and frag on and off [note: now it's not accepting values, another clue that this is a hardware problem]. Nothing works, your card is broken and I want to send it in." I'm told to hold. "I'm sorry, we cannot help you. We need to troubleshoot in windows." I slam the phone on the reciever so hard I think I nearly break it. Now I am pissed, and I still have a broken card. Does anyone else have any history with wireless antennas not working all of the sudden? This card hasn't even been out of the house, I leave it here when I go out for crying out loud! My next attempt will to disable encryption and go back to wvlan_cs to see if that jogs this thing. But I truly think it's hardware; nothing, NOTHING, on my laptop changed, I didn't even turn it on this morning! Wes -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Routing problem -can I believe the ISP tech?

by Charles R. Anderson

HTML problem. Who can't read your email? On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 05:11:31PM -0500, Richard Goodman wrote: <html> <pre> I just brought up my fourth RH7.3 server Friday afternoon (one of two RH7.0 servers that had been hacked-new hard drive and software). I then went home and spent a couple of hours connected to it with ssh on a workstation connected to my home RH7.3 server. When I went to rerun a slightly modified (open ports for ftp and internal dhcp twiddling) ipchains firewall I lost the connection, and, more than 16 hours later, don't have it back. Other relevant details. (let's call the servers Home and EFO) Home was the other hacked server, and was formatted and rebuilt last weekend. Home and EFO are on the same ISP and each has a block of 4 static IPs. The blocks share the first 18 bits of their IP#s. Home could connect to EFO last night Home now cannot connect to EFO via ssh, or access its web site. Pings are disabled on all my servers - so I can't do that test. EFO network workstations can browse the web; I can ping out from the EFO linux box or workstations, and can ping EFO's Cisco 678 router from its Linux box EFO workstations cannot access Home websites (but I had not tried this before since rebuilding EFO Linux box Home Cisco 678 cannot be pinged from Home Linux box (!) or EFO (Linux or workstation), but can be pinged from my office (Linux box on other ISP). >From my office workstation I can also ssh to EFO and access EFO website (which in fact I uploaded to the new server from my office today). Does this discount the possibility of a firewall issue? I spent countless hours talking to the ISP (Qwest) tech support, and over an hour with a senior tech who had some Linux knowledge, and he claims that it must be a configuration issue on one or both of my Home and EFO Linux boxes, since:   He can login to both my Cisco routers and ping the other router - he claims this proves its not a Qwest routing problem. If he's right I'm still puzzled by two things: a) Why could I connect from Home to EFO for two hours last night, no problems? b) Why can't the Home Linux box ping the Cisco 678 directly connected to it? I knew nothing about routing before today - here's the Home routing table: <tt>route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface xxx.yyy.28.48   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.248 U     0      0        0 eth0 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1 127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo 0.0.0.0         xxx.yyy.28.54   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0 </tt>I tried the following but still could not access EFO (added just the EFO IP#, not the network  block: <tt>#route add -host xxx.yyy.26.57 dev  eth0 # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface xxx.yyy.26.57   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 eth0 xxx.yyy.28.48   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.248 U     0      0        0 eth0 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth1 127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo 0.0.0.0         xxx.yyy.28.54   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0 </tt>Is this enough if to decide if the tech is right or crazy? Any suggestions - I still can't access Home from/to EFO. Dick </pre> </html> _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Routing problem -can I believe the ISP tech?

by Frank Sweetser

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 05:11:31PM -0500, Richard Goodman wrote: If you're going to send email in html, at least be kind enough to send in in plain text too. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 18 Full-time WPI Network Engineer, Part time Linux/Perl guy | Wow, I'm being shot at from both sides. That means I *must* be right. :-) -- Larry Wall in <199710211959.MAA18990(a)wall.org>

Nov. 2, 2002

Routing problem -can I believe the ISP tech?

by Richard Goodman

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 *&@#&% megabyte message

by Bill Smith

On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:26:16 -0500 (EST) Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> wrote: KH> It's your own fault for having a crappy dialup and not getting KH> message headers before downloading the whole thing :) so KH> apparently ANYONE could send you a large file and cause the same KH> problem. (1) not everyone can afford Broadband or DSL. i don't even have CABLE, for crying out loud! (2) i'm not as quich to react as our friend. if i were a betting man, i'd wager my connection is slower than his (mine is a whopping 31.2kbps 'cause i have dirty (old?) lines and my lease says that i have to foot the bill to clean them if i want better), but i waited to see who was the culprit. seeing that it was Andy, i figured that if anyone should have been justified in posting something that insanely huge, it should be him. <shrug> KH> When i moved into this apartment one thing I made sure before i KH> signed the lease was that i could get broadband with a static IP for KH> my box :) maybe for me when i'm working again, but not before. KH> Sorry I just can't relate to only having a dialup.. I can't KH> imagine the pain you must have :) if you would like, i can put things in perspective for you.... i've been playing with dial-ups since '90... my first modem when at a nice quick 1200 baud. :) (yeah, i know some of you Old Timers used to communicate by tapping in Morse on the phone receiver.... <g>) to ME, 56k is nice (been there, before i moved to this "commonwealth"), but i'm not in a position to be complaining too much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it's still a foolish thing." -- Anatole France * TAG! v3.1 *

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Karl

the IMAP protocol works great for me. Gregory Avedissian wrote: > > > Karl Hiramoto wrote: > >> It's your own fault for having a crappy dialup and not getting >> message headers before downloading the whole thing :) so apparently >> ANYONE could send you a large file and cause the same problem. >> > > What program will let you download the headers before downloading the > message? > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø You are absolute plate-glass. I see to the very back of your mind. -- Sherlock Holmes

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DNS Resolve from the Internet

by Peter Gutowski

> Hello: > > Please help me get this straight. I am confused. I > have a dnscache running at home on a DMZ network. I > would like to know if I can have friends on other > networks (in the Internet) to use my server as their > resolver server? > Should be easily possible. > I have a firewall in place but, I'm directing all the > udp traffic to port 53 to my dns-server; also my > dnscache server is accepting connections from those > networks ip's. Prodvided neither you your ISP blocks the port and you IP address doesn't change, should be possible. > > Can I do this or do I need to register ($$$$$) a the > dns-server? I've never experienced a charge to setting up a service on server. If the server is Primary for a domain, you will need to register it, but that's usually part of the domain registration fee. -PG -- Peter Gutowski - peter(a)linuxchamps.com - phone: (413)531-0123

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DNS Resolve from the Internet

by Peter Gutowski

> Hello: > > Please help me get this straight. I am confused. I > have a dnscache running at home on a DMZ network. I > would like to know if I can have friends on other > networks (in the Internet) to use my server as their > resolver server? > Provided neither you nor your service provider are blocking access to that port it should be easily possible. > I have a firewall in place but, I'm directing all the > udp traffic to port 53 to my dns-server; also my > dnscache server is accepting connections from those > networks ip's. > > Can I do this or do I need to register ($$$$$) a the > dns-server? > I've set up a few official and several ad hoc name servers and have never needed to do much that was hardly official. In the case of registering a domain, you do need to provide the IP addresses of registered hosts, but there was not a specific charge from network solutions, and they seem to be great ones for finding ways of charging you for things. -PG -- Peter Gutowski - peter(a)linuxchamps.com - phone: (413)531-0123

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Gregory Avedissian

Karl Hiramoto wrote: > It's your own fault for having a crappy dialup and not getting message > headers before downloading the whole thing :) so apparently ANYONE > could send you a large file and cause the same problem. > What program will let you download the headers before downloading the message?

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Karl Hiramoto

It's your own fault for having a crappy dialup and not getting message headers before downloading the whole thing :) so apparently ANYONE could send you a large file and cause the same problem. When i moved into this apartment one thing I made sure before i signed the lease was that i could get broadband with a static IP for my box :) Sorry I just can't relate to only having a dialup.. I can't imagine the pain you must have :) On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Friday 01 November 2002 10:41 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > > Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this > > mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent > > it, because I got tired of watching it download > > and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it > > totally unread. Since I don't know who you are > > you are safe (from me at least) if you never do > > anything like that again. > > I did it. Got a problem? Take it up with me and not the list, and please > keep your profanity to yourself. > > > > > Can the mailing list software be configured to > > throw any message more than, say, a generous > > 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender > > with a polite message about his mother and > > a baboon? > > > > Let's leave my mother out of this, shall we? > > The mailing list software sent my e-mail to the WLUG mailing list admin due to > its size. I believe the limit is set to 20 Kbytes. The WLUG mailing list > admin obviously approved it for posting and sent it on its way. I am not the > WLUG mailing list admin (I suspect it is either Chuck or Frank). > > > Thank you very much. > > > > -- Keith > > You're quite welcome! I'm happy to keep people informed about important > events in the Linux world, such as the Enterprise Linux Forum being held in > Boston. Ah, but you'd have known that if you hadn't deleted a partially > downloaded e-mail message. > > Now, to the more polite members of WLUG, my apologies if the aforementioned > e-mail has caused you some grief. I'll endeavor to use more care in the > future. > > Later, > > Andy > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø I've been on this lonely road so long, Does anybody know where it goes, I remember last time the signs pointed home, A month ago. -- Carpenters, "Road Ode"

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Keith Wright

> From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> > > On Friday 01 November 2002 10:41 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > > Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this > > mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent > > it, because I got tired of watching it download > > I did it. Got a problem? Take it up with me and not the list, > and please keep your profanity to yourself. Well, you sent this message to the list, so I guess you want to continue the discussion on the list. As I said, I did not know you did it. I am surprised to say the least. > Let's leave my mother out of this, shall we? OK. > The mailing list software sent my e-mail to the WLUG mailing > list admin due to its size. I believe the limit is set to 20 > Kbytes. A very reasonable limit. > The WLUG mailing list admin obviously approved it for posting > and sent it on its way. I am not the WLUG mailing list admin > (I suspect it is either Chuck or Frank). Even more surprised. > You're quite welcome! I'm happy to keep people informed about > important events in the Linux world, such as the Enterprise > Linux Forum being held in Boston. That seems well under 20K. > Ah, but you'd have known that if you hadn't deleted a partially > downloaded e-mail message. Actually I did know, because Karl Hiramoto sent a message that quoted everything needful to know. > Now, to the more polite members of WLUG, my apologies if the > aforementioned e-mail has caused you some grief. I'll endeavor > to use more care in the future. I'm going to sleep now. -- Keith

Nov. 2, 2002

RE: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Mike Peckar

Geepers, are there still dialuppers alive today that haven't set up there own (damned) rules? The roaring naughts are the age of rules and policies, baby - get with the program as they say. Lesse, lemme recount a few -- if an email contains less than 1m, send it to my watch; if its an mpeg or graphics file, send it to my media server and let it figure it out; if its anything microsoft, send it my handheld - its probably work related -- and if its got the words: sex, drugs, or rock and roll, send it to all of them, baby, cause I'm a wild and crazy guy with 'lectronic stuff, man, and I'm comin' to yer town ---- --so betta watch out, o.k.? and btb, election day is pretty much here right now, so vote for ME, (goddammit), because (I swear,) if you don't, we'll all loose... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:09 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message On Friday 01 November 2002 10:41 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this > mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent > it, because I got tired of watching it download > and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it > totally unread. Since I don't know who you are > you are safe (from me at least) if you never do > anything like that again. I did it. Got a problem? Take it up with me and not the list, and please keep your profanity to yourself. > > Can the mailing list software be configured to > throw any message more than, say, a generous > 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender > with a polite message about his mother and > a baboon? > Let's leave my mother out of this, shall we? The mailing list software sent my e-mail to the WLUG mailing list admin due to its size. I believe the limit is set to 20 Kbytes. The WLUG mailing list admin obviously approved it for posting and sent it on its way. I am not the WLUG mailing list admin (I suspect it is either Chuck or Frank). > Thank you very much. > > -- Keith You're quite welcome! I'm happy to keep people informed about important events in the Linux world, such as the Enterprise Linux Forum being held in Boston. Ah, but you'd have known that if you hadn't deleted a partially downloaded e-mail message. Now, to the more polite members of WLUG, my apologies if the aforementioned e-mail has caused you some grief. I'll endeavor to use more care in the future. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Andy Stewart

On Friday 01 November 2002 10:41 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this > mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent > it, because I got tired of watching it download > and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it > totally unread. Since I don't know who you are > you are safe (from me at least) if you never do > anything like that again. I did it. Got a problem? Take it up with me and not the list, and please keep your profanity to yourself. > > Can the mailing list software be configured to > throw any message more than, say, a generous > 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender > with a polite message about his mother and > a baboon? > Let's leave my mother out of this, shall we? The mailing list software sent my e-mail to the WLUG mailing list admin due to its size. I believe the limit is set to 20 Kbytes. The WLUG mailing list admin obviously approved it for posting and sent it on its way. I am not the WLUG mailing list admin (I suspect it is either Chuck or Frank). > Thank you very much. > > -- Keith You're quite welcome! I'm happy to keep people informed about important events in the Linux world, such as the Enterprise Linux Forum being held in Boston. Ah, but you'd have known that if you hadn't deleted a partially downloaded e-mail message. Now, to the more polite members of WLUG, my apologies if the aforementioned e-mail has caused you some grief. I'll endeavor to use more care in the future. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Nov. 2, 2002

2 goddamn megabyte message

by Keith Wright

Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent it, because I got tired of watching it download and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it totally unread. Since I don't know who you are you are safe (from me at least) if you never do anything like that again. Can the mailing list software be configured to throw any message more than, say, a generous 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender with a polite message about his mother and a baboon? Thank you very much. -- Keith

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DNS Resolve from the Internet

by Karl Hiramoto

jose, There should not be an issue with it. Just provide your friends the IP address. As long as they can connect directly to the IP everthing should work. U might want tcp and udp on port 53 and 113 On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, jose sanchez wrote: > Hello: > > Please help me get this straight. I am confused. I > have a dnscache running at home on a DMZ network. I > would like to know if I can have friends on other > networks (in the Internet) to use my server as their > resolver server? > > I have a firewall in place but, I'm directing all the > udp traffic to port 53 to my dns-server; also my > dnscache server is accepting connections from those > networks ip's. > > Can I do this or do I need to register ($$$$$) a the > dns-server? > > Thanks in advance for your help.... > > > ===== > "An ounce of gold cannot buy an ounce of time." > - Anonymous > > > www.whmicro.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø The older I grow, the less important the comma becomes. Let the reader catch his own breath. -- Elizabeth Clarkson Zwart

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups

by Karl Hiramoto

I'll be there for the free stuff, but can't afford the spendy stuff. On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > > > Hi Everybody, > > On Dec. 3 and 4, 2002, the Enterprise Linux Forum will be held at the Boston > Marriot (Copley Place) in Boston, MA. We have been offered a $200 discount > for WLUG members who attend the event. If you want more information, read > below that which was sent to me. If you wish to go and can't read the > attachments, send me e-mail. > > Later, > > Andy > > > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:27:15 -0500 > From: Juliet Sigmann <jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com> > To: andystewart(a)attbi.com > > Andy, > > I hope you do not think it too forward of me to send you this e-mail, but I > came across Worcester Linux Users Group while researching Linux associations > and user group sites. My company, Jupitermedia, has developed a conference > that I believe will be of interest to you and other members of Worcester > Linux Users Group . The name of the event is Enterprise Linux Forum > Conference & Expo. For complete details on this event, visit > http://www.enterpriselinuxforum.com > > I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 discount to > attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. Registrations processed by November 19th > save an additional $100 off the regular conference price. The conference > offers 1-Day, 2-Day, and Expo Pass (free) passes to the event. > > This e-mail is not a "sales call", but is a win-win business proposition. > We are seeking to drive attendance at this first time (albeit world-class) > event. We can offer you and other Worcester Linux Users Group members a > world class event that touches on a number of subjects via 4 comprehensive > tracks that I believe would be of interest to your group such as Linux in > the Datacenter; Clustered and Distributed Computing; Operations, Management > and Infrastructure; and Application, Storage and Information Management. > Scroll below for the complete line-up of speakers and topics to be > highlighted at this event. > > As the conference brochure (attached in PDF format) relates, this event is > set to run December 3-4, 2002 at the Boston Marriott Copley Place in Boston, > MA. > > Currently, the event is sponsored by Red Hat (Premier Sponsor), BMC > Software, Computer Associates, Dell, Egenera, IBM, NeTraverse, Oracle, Sun > Microsystems, SuSE Linux, Ximian, and more. Additional supporters of the > event include: Illuminata (Premier Analyst Sponsor) and association sponsors > Free Standards Group, GNOME Foundation, Linux International, and Open Source > Development Lab. Media sponsors include, Capterra, HostingTech, IT Toolbox, > Linux Journal, and OutsourcingCentral.com. > > Visit the event web site at www.enterpriselinuxforum.com for the most > up-to-date listing of speakers, session descriptions, sponsors, and > exhibitors. > > Again, I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 > discount to attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. As you can see from the > number and quality of sponsors and speakers, this is a first rate event. > > I have attached with this e-mail a fax back registration form with the $200 > discount as well as some copy that you could include in an email newsletter > to you members or your web site. In order for your members to take > advantage of this $200 discount, they will need to use the priority code > assigned in the fax back form or attached copy. > > Please call me directly if you have any comments or questions. > > Sincerely, > > Juliet Sigmann > Marketing Manager > > Jupitermedia Corporation > (formerly INT Media Group) > 30 Lyman Street, Suite 8 > Westboro, MA 01581 > T: 508-870-5858 x119 > F: 508-870-6521 > eFax: 801-761-9698 > jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com > www.jupitermedia.com > > **************************************************************************** > *************** > Keynotes and Sessions > Click on http://www.jupiterevents.com/elf/fall02/glance.html for the > complete agenda > > Keynote 1: The Inevitable Linux Momentum - Matthew J. Szulik, Chairman, CEO > and President, Red Hat > Keynote 2: Linux in Prime Time: Open Source Meets Enterprise Requirements - > Jonathan Eunice, President and Principal > Analyst, Illuminata > Keynote 3: IBM Enterprise Solutions for Linux - Steven C. Solazzo, General > Manager, Linux, IBM > Keynote 4: Unbreakable Linux - Rene Bonvanie, VP of Oracle9i Marketing, > Oracle Corporation > > Session 1: The Changing Face of Linux - David Niemi, Director of Systems > Engineering, Adeptech Systems, Inc. > Session 2: Linux High Availability Cluster Selection - Tim Burke, Advanced > Server Technical Project Leader, Red Hat > Session 3: VPN Enterprise Implementation at Rochester Midland - Tony > Karakashian, Network Manager, Rochester Midland > Corporation > Session 4: Linux as Embedded Operating System - Rob Lembree, Technical > Director, Metro Link, Inc. > Session 5: How Sitel Worldwide Runs Call Centers Utilizing Linux - Scott > Clark, Director of Systems Engineering, Sitel Corporation > Session 6: PANEL: Server Consolidation Strategies Using Linux - Moderator: > Brian Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com > Session 7: The Enterprise Linux Desktop: Addressing Corporate Needs - Nat > Friedman, Co-founder and Vice President of Product > Development, Ximian > Session 8: Managing Linux on Datacenter Mainframe Systems - Alex deVries, > Principal Solutions Architect, Linuxcare > Session 9: The Future of Open Source Software in the Enterprise - Randy > Terbush, Managing Partner, Tribal Knowledge Group > Session 10: The Future of Datacenter Computing: How the Combination of > Storage Area Networks and Processing Area Networks > Solves Multiple Pain Points for Enterprise Datacenters > Session 11: Apache: An Enterprise-Level Server - Daniel Lopez Ridruejo, > Senior Developer, Instant802 Networks > Session 12: The Virtual Environment - Where Does Linux Fit? - Dan > Kusnetzky, Vice President, System Software Research, IDC > Session 13: Enterprise-Ready Linux on the Mainframe: The Path to Success - > Sam Greenblatt, SVP, Computer Associates > Session 14: The Linux Factor: How Linux and Friends will Reshape > Application by 2005 - Jasmine Noel, Founder and Principal, > JNoel Associates > Session 15: Rethinking the Linux Distribution: Linux as Platform, Not > Product - Ian Murdock, Progeny > Session 16: Linux Clusters and Open Source Software in the Life Sciences - > Glenn Otero, Ph.D., Founder and Principal, Linux > Prophet > Session 17: The Linux Standard Base - Changing Everything You Think About > Linux - Scott McNeil, Executive Director, Free > Standards Group > Session 18: Linux in Business: Answering Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - > Russell Pavlicek, Independent Consultant > Session 19: PANEL: Integrating Linux Into the Enterprise - Moderator: Brian > Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com > Session 20: Open Source Development Lab Data Center Linux (DCL) for OLTP > and DSS - Timothy Witham, Lab Director, Open > Source Development Lab > Session 21: Migrating C/C++ Applications from Unix to Linux - Shel Travis, > Vice President of Research, MigraTEC > Session 22: Web Services: The Killer Application for Open Source - > Christian Gross, Software Engineering Consultant > Session 23: Linux Database Clusters for High Performance Computing - Boris > C. Bialek, Manager, DB2 Strategic Technologies, > IBM Toronto Lab > Session 24: High-Performance End-to-End Computing Using Linux - Chris > Maresca, Senior Partner, Olliance Group, LLC > > **************************************************************************** > *************** > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø The older I grow, the less important the comma becomes. Let the reader catch his own breath. -- Elizabeth Clarkson Zwart

Nov. 2, 2002

Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups

by Andy Stewart

Hi Everybody, On Dec. 3 and 4, 2002, the Enterprise Linux Forum will be held at the Boston Marriot (Copley Place) in Boston, MA. We have been offered a $200 discount for WLUG members who attend the event. If you want more information, read below that which was sent to me. If you wish to go and can't read the attachments, send me e-mail. Later, Andy ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:27:15 -0500 From: Juliet Sigmann <jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com> To: andystewart(a)attbi.com Andy, I hope you do not think it too forward of me to send you this e-mail, but I came across Worcester Linux Users Group while researching Linux associations and user group sites. My company, Jupitermedia, has developed a conference that I believe will be of interest to you and other members of Worcester Linux Users Group . The name of the event is Enterprise Linux Forum Conference & Expo. For complete details on this event, visit http://www.enterpriselinuxforum.com I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 discount to attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. Registrations processed by November 19th save an additional $100 off the regular conference price. The conference offers 1-Day, 2-Day, and Expo Pass (free) passes to the event. This e-mail is not a "sales call", but is a win-win business proposition. We are seeking to drive attendance at this first time (albeit world-class) event. We can offer you and other Worcester Linux Users Group members a world class event that touches on a number of subjects via 4 comprehensive tracks that I believe would be of interest to your group such as Linux in the Datacenter; Clustered and Distributed Computing; Operations, Management and Infrastructure; and Application, Storage and Information Management. Scroll below for the complete line-up of speakers and topics to be highlighted at this event. As the conference brochure (attached in PDF format) relates, this event is set to run December 3-4, 2002 at the Boston Marriott Copley Place in Boston, MA. Currently, the event is sponsored by Red Hat (Premier Sponsor), BMC Software, Computer Associates, Dell, Egenera, IBM, NeTraverse, Oracle, Sun Microsystems, SuSE Linux, Ximian, and more. Additional supporters of the event include: Illuminata (Premier Analyst Sponsor) and association sponsors Free Standards Group, GNOME Foundation, Linux International, and Open Source Development Lab. Media sponsors include, Capterra, HostingTech, IT Toolbox, Linux Journal, and OutsourcingCentral.com. Visit the event web site at www.enterpriselinuxforum.com for the most up-to-date listing of speakers, session descriptions, sponsors, and exhibitors. Again, I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 discount to attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. As you can see from the number and quality of sponsors and speakers, this is a first rate event. I have attached with this e-mail a fax back registration form with the $200 discount as well as some copy that you could include in an email newsletter to you members or your web site. In order for your members to take advantage of this $200 discount, they will need to use the priority code assigned in the fax back form or attached copy. Please call me directly if you have any comments or questions. Sincerely, Juliet Sigmann Marketing Manager Jupitermedia Corporation (formerly INT Media Group) 30 Lyman Street, Suite 8 Westboro, MA 01581 T: 508-870-5858 x119 F: 508-870-6521 eFax: 801-761-9698 jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com www.jupitermedia.com **************************************************************************** *************** Keynotes and Sessions Click on http://www.jupiterevents.com/elf/fall02/glance.html for the complete agenda Keynote 1: The Inevitable Linux Momentum - Matthew J. Szulik, Chairman, CEO and President, Red Hat Keynote 2: Linux in Prime Time: Open Source Meets Enterprise Requirements - Jonathan Eunice, President and Principal Analyst, Illuminata Keynote 3: IBM Enterprise Solutions for Linux - Steven C. Solazzo, General Manager, Linux, IBM Keynote 4: Unbreakable Linux - Rene Bonvanie, VP of Oracle9i Marketing, Oracle Corporation Session 1: The Changing Face of Linux - David Niemi, Director of Systems Engineering, Adeptech Systems, Inc. Session 2: Linux High Availability Cluster Selection - Tim Burke, Advanced Server Technical Project Leader, Red Hat Session 3: VPN Enterprise Implementation at Rochester Midland - Tony Karakashian, Network Manager, Rochester Midland Corporation Session 4: Linux as Embedded Operating System - Rob Lembree, Technical Director, Metro Link, Inc. Session 5: How Sitel Worldwide Runs Call Centers Utilizing Linux - Scott Clark, Director of Systems Engineering, Sitel Corporation Session 6: PANEL: Server Consolidation Strategies Using Linux - Moderator: Brian Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com Session 7: The Enterprise Linux Desktop: Addressing Corporate Needs - Nat Friedman, Co-founder and Vice President of Product Development, Ximian Session 8: Managing Linux on Datacenter Mainframe Systems - Alex deVries, Principal Solutions Architect, Linuxcare Session 9: The Future of Open Source Software in the Enterprise - Randy Terbush, Managing Partner, Tribal Knowledge Group Session 10: The Future of Datacenter Computing: How the Combination of Storage Area Networks and Processing Area Networks Solves Multiple Pain Points for Enterprise Datacenters Session 11: Apache: An Enterprise-Level Server - Daniel Lopez Ridruejo, Senior Developer, Instant802 Networks Session 12: The Virtual Environment - Where Does Linux Fit? - Dan Kusnetzky, Vice President, System Software Research, IDC Session 13: Enterprise-Ready Linux on the Mainframe: The Path to Success - Sam Greenblatt, SVP, Computer Associates Session 14: The Linux Factor: How Linux and Friends will Reshape Application by 2005 - Jasmine Noel, Founder and Principal, JNoel Associates Session 15: Rethinking the Linux Distribution: Linux as Platform, Not Product - Ian Murdock, Progeny Session 16: Linux Clusters and Open Source Software in the Life Sciences - Glenn Otero, Ph.D., Founder and Principal, Linux Prophet Session 17: The Linux Standard Base - Changing Everything You Think About Linux - Scott McNeil, Executive Director, Free Standards Group Session 18: Linux in Business: Answering Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - Russell Pavlicek, Independent Consultant Session 19: PANEL: Integrating Linux Into the Enterprise - Moderator: Brian Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com Session 20: Open Source Development Lab Data Center Linux (DCL) for OLTP and DSS - Timothy Witham, Lab Director, Open Source Development Lab Session 21: Migrating C/C++ Applications from Unix to Linux - Shel Travis, Vice President of Research, MigraTEC Session 22: Web Services: The Killer Application for Open Source - Christian Gross, Software Engineering Consultant Session 23: Linux Database Clusters for High Performance Computing - Boris C. Bialek, Manager, DB2 Strategic Technologies, IBM Toronto Lab Session 24: High-Performance End-to-End Computing Using Linux - Chris Maresca, Senior Partner, Olliance Group, LLC **************************************************************************** *************** ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Nov. 1, 2002