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Meeting Topic Discussion

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, I've seen some good ideas floating around out there, as I knew I would once the topic got going. Now the question you'll all hate: who wants to do the presentation? :-) Is there anybody out there who is pretty well versed in IPTables that would be willing to address the next WLUG meeting? Just a thought: Do we want to ask Robert Ziegler to come back and address WLUG? He authored the Linux Firewalls book published by New Riders which was updated for IPTables. He addressed WLUG about 18 months ago and his talk was extremely detailed and technical. To be fair, some thought it was a bit too detailed and dry. Along those lines, I thought it might be good to discuss the distribution specific ways that firewalling is handled. I suspect that those are just GUIs that build a list of IPTables filters anyway. Is there anybody out there that is comfortable with discussing this for RedHat at the upcoming meeting? How about some other distro? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Dec. 7, 2002

RE: [Wlug] synce, is a wonderful thing

by Brett Russ

> I just need to know how to convert the iPAQ contacts (and maybe > calendar) into > something I can use in Linux... If you have access to an Win box with Outlook and sync to that using MS ActiveSync (I can post the SW if you need it), you can use Mozilla to convert to (I think) the vCard format or something that can be recognized by Linux Mozilla or Evolution. See the Ximian site for the howto. I realize this is probably not the most direct way but MS is great like that :) BR

Dec. 7, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Let's make WLUG meetings better!

by Bill Smith

On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:19:50 -0500 "Charles R. Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: CRA> No, lokkit does a good job at setting up firewall rules for CRA> most users' basic needs. Okay... This is a Good Thing to know... :) CRA> The thing you need to remember with CRA> the redhat-config-securitylevel utility, is that every time you go CRA> into it, it defaults to the High setting, and does NOT show CRA> you what the current setting is. People are confused by this CRA> all the time, since they think that after changing it to Medium CRA> or Low, it should stay on that setting the next time they open CRA> the control panel. It doesn't work that way. Right... I've noticed this. Because Lokkit is kind of "secretive" in what it actually has defined (one doesn't know until one goes in with other tools), I didn't know if Lokkit was doing a good job or if it was just doing something half-baked... <shrug> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com It just seems wrong to cheat on an ethics test. -- Calvin * TAG! v3.1 *

Dec. 6, 2002

Re: [Wlug] synce, is a wonderful thing

by Wes Allen

Ummm, Isn't that what I'm using? I just need to know how to convert the iPAQ contacts (and maybe calendar) into something I can use in Linux... Wes On Friday 06 December 2002 6:14 am, brad wrote: > I found this today, thought you (and any other ipaq users) might be > interested. > http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/ > > -brad > > On Wednesday 04 December 2002 09:55 pm, Wesley Allen wrote: > > Hi all, I've actually managed to get my iPAQ connected to my linux > > laptop using my usb cable....and I've even gotten some files off it and > > opened them up with OOo. All-in-all, I'm happy. > > > > But I would like to back up the address files and convert them into > > something Linux can use. What files does pocket-pc use to keep their > > addressbook data in? > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Dec. 6, 2002

RE: [Wlug] fetchmail/sendmail problem... HELP

by Marc Hughes

I've seen weird things like this when the server can't get a good reverse DNS lookup (or sometimes a good forward lookup). Try adding an entry for your client into your server's /etc/hosts file ... It's fixed similar things for me. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Mills-Curran Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:26 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] fetchmail/sendmail problem... HELP On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:09:52 -0500 (EST) > From: Bill Mills-Curran <Mills-Curran_Bill(a)emc.com> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)wlug.org> > Subject: [Wlug] fetchmail/sendmail problem... HELP > > I REALLY need some help. I've included a lot of diagnostic stuff in > this email to help the troubleshooting process. Please help. <snip> Ok, I got it to work, but only by extending the timeout parameter in my .fetchmailrc file from 30 seconds to 120 seconds. This brings up an intermittent problem I have with slow responses to connections. Some connections are slow, exceeding the timeout of 30 seconds. So, I would guess that this is the root cause. Slow response to this: ssh localhost Good response to this: ssh 192.168.1.12 TIA, Bill _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 6, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Let's make WLUG meetings better!

by Charles R. Anderson

On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:25:26AM +0500, Bill Smith wrote: wsmith> want to know whether or not it's a Good Thing to have Lokkit doing what wsmith> it does. (for example, is it sufficient as a starting point, or should wsmith> I remove it and define my own rules?) No, lokkit does a good job at setting up firewall rules for most users' basic needs. The thing you need to remember with the redhat-config-securitylevel utility, is that every time you go into it, it defaults to the High setting, and does NOT show you what the current setting is. People are confused by this all the time, since they think that after changing it to Medium or Low, it should stay on that setting the next time they open the control panel. It doesn't work that way. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Dec. 6, 2002

Re: [Wlug] fetchmail/sendmail problem... HELP

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:09:52 -0500 (EST) > From: Bill Mills-Curran <Mills-Curran_Bill(a)emc.com> > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)wlug.org> > Subject: [Wlug] fetchmail/sendmail problem... HELP > > I REALLY need some help. I've included a lot of diagnostic stuff in > this email to help the troubleshooting process. Please help. <snip> Ok, I got it to work, but only by extending the timeout parameter in my .fetchmailrc file from 30 seconds to 120 seconds. This brings up an intermittent problem I have with slow responses to connections. Some connections are slow, exceeding the timeout of 30 seconds. So, I would guess that this is the root cause. Slow response to this: ssh localhost Good response to this: ssh 192.168.1.12 TIA, Bill

Dec. 6, 2002

fetchmail/sendmail problem... HELP

by Bill Mills-Curran

I REALLY need some help. I've included a lot of diagnostic stuff in this email to help the troubleshooting process. Please help. I'm struggling & I need some advice. The basic problem is that something changed between last night and this morning to make my email not work. Config details: ISP: charter email address subssn594(a)charter.net I use fetchmail to grab the email from the pop server (pop.charter.net) and deliver it to my local email account on my linux box (Red Hat 8.0) username on linux: bcurran fetchmailrc: poll pop.charter.net user subssn594 password xxxx fetchall When I run "fetchmail -v -v" I get good authentication, etc for both IMAP and POP3. I can see a list of email messages. When it retrieves messages I get (I'll just show the POP3 -- the IMAP is similar): fetchmail: POP3< +OK 2003 bytes will follow reading message 1 of 46 (2003 octets) About to rewrite Return-Path: <owner-gobruins(a)gobruins.ICSL.UCLA.EDU> Rewritten version is Return-Path: <owner-gobruins(a)gobruins.ICSL.UCLA.EDU> About to rewrite From: John Houser <jchouser(a)yahoo.com> Rewritten version is From: John Houser <jchouser(a)yahoo.com> About to rewrite To: gobruins(a)gobruins.icsl.ucla.edu Rewritten version is To: gobruins(a)gobruins.icsl.ucla.edu About to rewrite Sender: owner-gobruins(a)gobruins.icsl.ucla.edu Rewritten version is Sender: owner-gobruins(a)gobruins.icsl.ucla.edu fetchmail: timeout after 30 seconds waiting for listener to respond. fetchmail: client/server synchronization error while delivering to SMTP host pop.charter.net fetchmail: Query status=7 (ERROR) fetchmail: Deleting fetchids file. fetchmail: normal termination, status 7 Now, what I find is interesting is the message: Fetchmail: client/server synchronization error while delivering to SMTP host pop.charter.net It looks like it's trying to deliver to the pop server rather than my local account. WHY???? More stuff... I can email myself locally, so the SMTP server on my machine would appear to be ok. I can also telnet to the POP3 server and perform operations. My prime suspect is fetchmail. Somehow it seems to behave differently, and I have no idea why. Maybe there are different DNS entries or something causing fetchmail to deliver to the wrong place. (Of course, I don't know that the SMTP message is accurate or misleading.) TIA, Bill P.S. If you'd like to chat on the phone, please feel free. I need to get this fixed. -- Bill Mills-Curran Mills-Curran_Bill(a)emc.com EMC Corporation Tel: 508 382-7642 Coslin Drive, MS C33 Fax: 508 382-7913 Southboro, MA 01772 Tie: 824-27642

Dec. 6, 2002

...we WILL take over the world </maniacal laughter>

by Mike Peckar

Walmart is now selling Lindows boxes for $199... http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/12/05/sproject.hs02.cheap.pc.reut/index.h tml

Dec. 6, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Let's make WLUG meetings better!

by Skip Gaede

Folks, William Smith (WS) wrote: Charles Allen (HCA) wrote: > HCA> cool. I'd be willing to donate my box to the cause. > I'd also like > HCA> to see a tutorial on iptables, cause they are a very usual thing. > HCA> Other than that, I think a demo on wine, and getting some of that > HCA> other OS's programs like dreamweaver mx, to work under wine. > > WS> AYE AYE! :) > > WS> as for the iptables, i know that it was done a little over a year ago, > WS> but maybe there could be a bit of an update session, to cover anything > WS> that has changed since then... for example, i was looking at > WS> a guide to > WS> using the iproute2 suite, and i think there are a lot of things that i > WS> need to learn. again. <g> I'm also interested in security and IP Tables. My system has a local network and a cable modem, and with previous versions of Mandrake, they had a wizard to setup netfilter. The 9.0 release dropped the wizard and included a shorewall package. The documentation was not great, but I think I understand it well enough to modify the config files as needed. And I like the package a lot. --Skip

Dec. 6, 2002

Re: [Wlug] synce, is a wonderful thing

by brad

I found this today, thought you (and any other ipaq users) might be interested. http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/ -brad On Wednesday 04 December 2002 09:55 pm, Wesley Allen wrote: > Hi all, I've actually managed to get my iPAQ connected to my linux > laptop using my usb cable....and I've even gotten some files off it and > opened them up with OOo. All-in-all, I'm happy. > > But I would like to back up the address files and convert them into > something Linux can use. What files does pocket-pc use to keep their > addressbook data in? > > Wes > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 6, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Let's make WLUG meetings better!

by Bill Smith

On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:56:59 -0500 "Skip Gaede" <sgaede(a)attbi.com> wrote: SG> I'm also interested in security and IP Tables. My system has a local SG> network and a cable modem, and with previous versions of Mandrake, SG> they had a wizard to setup netfilter. The 9.0 release dropped the SG> wizard and included a shorewall package. The documentation was not SG> great, but I think I understand it well enough to modify the config SG> files as needed. And I like the package a lot. among the things that has me interested, RH8.0 uses Lokkit in setting up baseline Firewall rules. I don't know much about firewalls (yet), but I want to know whether or not it's a Good Thing to have Lokkit doing what it does. (for example, is it sufficient as a starting point, or should I remove it and define my own rules?) Advice is always welcome... Also: Is there a better way to provide information online from past meetings? There are some things where the notes provided raise more questions than they answer for me. Having slide show notes are great, but if someone that was present asked the same question i have, how would i know? just a few thoughts... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "[T]here is nothing so unnatural as the commonplace." -- Sherlock Holmes, in 'A Case of Identity' * TAG! v3.1 *

Dec. 6, 2002

Re: [Wlug] web hosting

by Bill Mills-Curran

A friend of mine uses westhost.com and likes it. I think you'd pay $8.00/mo for what you want. Bill

Dec. 6, 2002

Re: [Wlug] web hosting

by Clint Moyer

In almost 3 years, I've had no problems with cphosting.com. http://cphosting.com/index.php?page=hostingplan Clint On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 17:37:29 -0500 Baris Hasdemir <penguen(a)hasdemir.com> wrote: >hi all, > >I have a domain(hasdemir.com) hosted on linux by a web >hosting company. Nowadays >many emails that I have sent, neither bounce back or be >received by the other >company. Help desk of the web hosting company told me >that probably there are >filters for our network (by the way I have no idea on >what network means here). > >here is what they exactly told me: >>> why would they filter my domain which has only three >>>email accounts, >>> and never spammed throughout its life? > >> They don't block domain by domain but they block a whole >>network, they >> don't care many domains in that network are legit. > >They are quite bad on informing the customer about ant >problem. they refuse to >show me the SMTP logs. It is Exim as far as I know. > >Would any of you tell me what my problem really might be? > >I need my web site hosted on a linux machine with mysql >and php installed. What >would your recommandations be for a web hosting firm? >Things I would like to >have, shell account with ssh connectivity and web space >around 100MB. > >thanks, >baris > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > <TEXTAREA NAME="Signature" ROWS="4" COLS="60">

Dec. 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] web hosting

by Brett Russ

Baris Hasdemir wrote: > I have a domain(hasdemir.com) hosted on linux by a web hosting company. Nowadays > many emails that I have sent, neither bounce back or be received by the other > company. Help desk of the web hosting company told me that probably there are > filters for our network (by the way I have no idea on what network means here). I am not sure what the problem is but here are some things to think about: -virtual hosting keeps many domain names bound to a single IP address. -the filters they refer to are probably looking at IP addresses or network addresses (the leading portion of the IP address which is followed by the host address) -Since you can send to other domains successfully, contact (from a different account) the postmaster or webmaster at the problem domain and ask them. > I need my web site hosted on a linux machine with mysql and php installed. What > would your recommandations be for a web hosting firm? Things I would like to > have, shell account with ssh connectivity and web space around 100MB. I use LogicInternet and am satisfied. They host with FreeBSD but I don't have a shell account. I realize that two of your requirements are already out the window but if you are interested check out their rate plans here: http://www.logicinternet.com/vhost/index.shtml -Brett

Dec. 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] web hosting

by Chuck Homic

On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 05:28:41PM -0500, Baris Hasdemir wrote: > I have a domain(hasdemir.com) hosted on linux by a web hosting company. > Nowadays many emails that I have sent, neither bounce back or be > received by the other company. Help desk of the web hosting company told > me that probably there are filters for our network (by the way I have no > idea on what network means here). Baris, I did a quick lookup of your domain ('host hasdemir.com') and I didn't get any MX record. Many SMTP hosts do a lookup of the sending host/ip, and reject mail if it is not an MX, presuming that it's not a "real" mailserver. (This is to prevent spamming from DUL or cable modem links and whatnot.) I'm on the fence as to whether or not that's a reasonable practice... but it's there. I'd suggest adding an MX record to your domain's DNS. (Whether or not this is the ACTUAL problem you're having at the moment.) -Chuck

Dec. 5, 2002

web hosting

by Baris Hasdemir

hi all, I have a domain(hasdemir.com) hosted on linux by a web hosting company. Nowadays many emails that I have sent, neither bounce back or be received by the other company. Help desk of the web hosting company told me that probably there are filters for our network (by the way I have no idea on what network means here). here is what they exactly told me: >> why would they filter my domain which has only three email accounts, >> and never spammed throughout its life? > They don't block domain by domain but they block a whole network, they > don't care many domains in that network are legit. They are quite bad on informing the customer about ant problem. they refuse to show me the SMTP logs. It is Exim as far as I know. Would any of you tell me what my problem really might be? I need my web site hosted on a linux machine with mysql and php installed. What would your recommandations be for a web hosting firm? Things I would like to have, shell account with ssh connectivity and web space around 100MB. thanks, baris

Dec. 5, 2002

web hosting

by Baris Hasdemir

hi all, I have a domain(hasdemir.com) hosted on linux by a web hosting company. Nowadays many emails that I have sent, neither bounce back or be received by the other company. Help desk of the web hosting company told me that probably there are filters for our network (by the way I have no idea on what network means here). here is what they exactly told me: >> why would they filter my domain which has only three email accounts, >> and never spammed throughout its life? > They don't block domain by domain but they block a whole network, they > don't care many domains in that network are legit. They are quite bad on informing the customer about ant problem. they refuse to show me the SMTP logs. It is Exim as far as I know. Would any of you tell me what my problem really might be? I need my web site hosted on a linux machine with mysql and php installed. What would your recommandations be for a web hosting firm? Things I would like to have, shell account with ssh connectivity and web space around 100MB. thanks, baris

Dec. 5, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Let's make WLUG meetings better!

by Keller, Tim

Bill, Instead of using wine, you should look at using wineX instead. It's got much better support for games than just base WINE... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Smith [mailto:wsmith@chezsmith.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 6:32 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Let's make WLUG meetings better! On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:46:45 -0500 "Haines, Charles Allen" <chaines(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: HCA> I would be very interested in some security based presentations. I HCA> think setting up some boxes for "security" testing would be really HCA> cool. I'd be willing to donate my box to the cause. I'd also like HCA> to see a tutorial on iptables, cause they are a very usual thing. HCA> Other than that, I think a demo on wine, and getting some of that HCA> other OS's programs like dreamweaver mx, to work under wine. AYE AYE! :) i've been toying with getting WINE to work with Warcraft II, but although it's supposed to work, i can't seem to get it to do anything constructive. 8( as for the iptables, i know that it was done a little over a year ago, but maybe there could be a bit of an update session, to cover anything that has changed since then... for example, i was looking at a guide to using the iproute2 suite, and i think there are a lot of things that i need to learn. again. <g> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "Never to be credited when telling the truth." -- Aristotle, when he was asked what a man gains by telling a lie. * TAG! v3.1 *

Dec. 5, 2002

printing config question

by Bill Mills-Curran

Problem: I'm not able to print multiple copies (or access any printer options). My setup... I have print queues configured on machines at home (parallel port connect) and at work (printing to smb printers on the network). In both cases, I'm running Red Hat 8.0. I have not installed cups. I'm using the CANON bjc600 driver at home and "Postscript Printer" at work. How can I get lpr options to work? TIA, Bill

Dec. 5, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Let's make WLUG meetings better!

by Haines, Charles Allen

I would be very interested in some security based presentations. I think setting up some boxes for "security" testing would be really cool. I'd be willing to donate my box to the cause. I'd also like to see a tutorial on iptables, cause they are a very usual thing. Other than that, I think a demo on wine, and getting some of that other OS's programs like dreamweaver mx, to work under wine. ================================================= | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | ECE Sys Admin | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | | GDC Developer | ICQ: 3707881 | ================================================= http://www.linux-xtreme.net -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@attbi.com] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 6:56 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] Let's make WLUG meetings better! HI everybody, I was a little disappointed at the turnout from the last WLUG meeting. We had 8 or 9 people show up, and while we did have a good time watching Scott and Doug get a couple of scanners working under Linux, it would have been alot more fun with more people in attendance. I believe this was the lowest attendance we've seen at a WLUG meeting in our 5.5 year history. :-( We discussed possible reasons for the low attendance at the Boynton over a few beers. One suggestion was that I should update the WLUG website to show what we have done at past meetings so people wouldn't think that nothing was accomplished. I've done that and will endeavor to keep that part of the WLUG website current (see "Past Meeting Information"). Another thought was that some people will only come to a meeting if the topic looks interesting to them, and if it is announced well in advance. I must admit to having been somewhat lax in that area lately. Therefore, in an attempt to remedy that (at least for this month), I'm putting out the call now for a speaker and a topic for the Dec. 12th meeting (its coming up fast!). I sent out a list of potential topics last month, but I know that there are a zilliion interesting things happening in the Linux world that could be discussed at a WLUG meeting. The meeting need not be discussion based, either! Although Kinnicutt Hall lends itself well to this type of meeting, we do have access to other rooms on campus. People have tossed out ideas such as these: o build a network for multiplayer Linux games o build a network to see if WLUG crackers can break into your system (not to destroy it, but to teach you what to fix to secure your system) o more live demos! The group exists to meet your needs, so please, state your needs! I can't arrange a meeting to your liking if I get no feedback on what you want to see at future WLUG meetings. More importantly, I'd like to see more and different people volunteer to do the presentations or to run a live demo. If you look back at the last year of WLUG meetings, you'll see the same names many times. While I'm *quite* happy that these folks continue to volunteer, I'd like to see others jump in also. Finally, if anybody has feedback regarding the last meeting and why it lacked attendees, please bring it up on the list so we can all discuss it. Without such candid discussions, WLUG cannot improve. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 5, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Lan party ideas...

by Haines, Charles Allen

Here is what I suggest. We co-sponsor this with the WPI Game Development Club. The GDC holds LAN parties often and would help us a great deal with the planning of this. I think its a great idea, having helped with many of the GDC LAN parties myself (I'm a GDC executive). For the installfest part, I say we charge nothing, unless the person doesn't have the distro on CD, in which case we can ask for a couple bucks to cover the cost of the CD's (since most distro's take up like 5 CD's now anyway). However, for the LAN party part, the way that the GDC usually does it is, $3 for GDC members, $5 for WPI students, and $7 for Consortium students, and $10 for everyone else. Now since WLUG is a WPI organization, we could say, $3 for WLUG / WPILA members and $5 for everyone else. I think that is a very fair price. As for placed to hold it. WPI would be more than happy to hold it. We really have two choices in the matter, Riley Commons, which is easy to get, but not very large. Or we can try and get the Odeum, which is much more tricky, but much larger and more power. Any WPI Alumni or current student can book either of these (though I've heard that Alumni have a better change of getting the Odeum than a student does). The link should be an isolated link just internally for the LAN party. If we want an outside link for the install fest portion, we will have to talk to netops and see what they can do. Right now, every machine on the WPI campus has to be registered for security reasons. They might be able to help us out with something. If we decided to turn this into more than a LAN party, I say we turn it into a series of small demos / tutorials kinda thing. We could host some beginner tutorials, like a basic recompiling of the kernel, a desktop setup, stuff like that. We could also hold more advanced tutorials such as iptables, security, clustering, stuff like that. I think that we should have the installfest go for like the first 3 hours, along with a LAN party, and then turn over to tutorials and workshops, maybe offering a couple at the same time to give people a choice. I'd really like to do something like this. As for time frame... GDC LAN parties usually last from around 6pm to whenever everyone leaves, which has been as late as 3am the next day. Now for this, I would say that something like 5-midnight, or something similiar would work well, giving us enough time for both the installfest and the workshops / tutorials. I suppose that is enough long windedness for me, ================================================= | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | ECE Sys Admin | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | | GDC Developer | ICQ: 3707881 | ================================================= http://www.linux-xtreme.net -----Original Message----- From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:19 AM To: Wlug (E-mail) Subject: [Wlug] Lan party ideas... Hey All, So after reading Andy's email, it got me thinking about the whole installfest/lan party thing... and I'd like some input. 1. Do the members of WLUG think a lan party is a possible thing? 2. How many people do you think we could get to attend? 2a. How many people would we want to attend? At a certain point, if 200 people show up, it could get ugly... 3. Where and When could we hold such a shindig? Would this be something that the support staff at WPI would even entertain as an idea? Or, should we look else were... such as a VFW or some such place... 4. Should we have a link to the outside world, or should it just be an isolated LAN? 5. Time Frame... 6. What should we charge people (if anything) to attend? 7. Activities? This is where I want some broad input. Other than the obligatory FPS/RTS games, what other games or "stuff" would people like to see? I know Andy had mentioned a security demo... How about a clustering demo... Let me know what your ideas are... Thanks, Tim. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Dec. 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Let's make WLUG meetings better!

by Bill Smith

On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:46:45 -0500 "Haines, Charles Allen" <chaines(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: HCA> I would be very interested in some security based presentations. I HCA> think setting up some boxes for "security" testing would be really HCA> cool. I'd be willing to donate my box to the cause. I'd also like HCA> to see a tutorial on iptables, cause they are a very usual thing. HCA> Other than that, I think a demo on wine, and getting some of that HCA> other OS's programs like dreamweaver mx, to work under wine. AYE AYE! :) i've been toying with getting WINE to work with Warcraft II, but although it's supposed to work, i can't seem to get it to do anything constructive. 8( as for the iptables, i know that it was done a little over a year ago, but maybe there could be a bit of an update session, to cover anything that has changed since then... for example, i was looking at a guide to using the iproute2 suite, and i think there are a lot of things that i need to learn. again. <g> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "Never to be credited when telling the truth." -- Aristotle, when he was asked what a man gains by telling a lie. * TAG! v3.1 *

Dec. 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] synce, is a wonderful thing

by brad

On Wednesday 04 December 2002 09:55 pm, Wesley Allen wrote: > Hi all, I've actually managed to get my iPAQ connected to my linux > laptop using my usb cable....and I've even gotten some files off it and > opened them up with OOo. All-in-all, I'm happy. Nice. > But I would like to back up the address files and convert them into > something Linux can use. What files does pocket-pc use to keep their > addressbook data in? I believe that the address book, is something that only outlook can read. I had a hard time trying to figure this one out to when i switched from WinCE to linux. What i did was found a machine with outlook and sync-ed to that. Opened up outlook and exported the address book in csv format. Then i could actually read the data. Cheers, --brad

Dec. 5, 2002

synce, is a wonderful thing

by Wesley Allen

Hi all, I've actually managed to get my iPAQ connected to my linux laptop using my usb cable....and I've even gotten some files off it and opened them up with OOo. All-in-all, I'm happy. But I would like to back up the address files and convert them into something Linux can use. What files does pocket-pc use to keep their addressbook data in? Wes

Dec. 5, 2002