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Linux on a dual headed mac

by Marc Hughes

Hi all, I got a dual headed G4 sitting here that's just itching to be a linux box. I can get X up on the primary video card, but am having problems getting it to work on the secondary one. (I figure I should get that working, before I try to get them both working). Unfortunatly, I can't figure out how to get the second video card to work. I try specifying a busid in the XFree86Config-4 file. It seems to always be trying to use my primary card. Is there a way to get fb support on bootup on the second display? Primary card: Geforce2 MX with a 17" apple studio display using the Apple Display Connector (not the vga one) - PCI bus 0:16:0 Secondary card: ATI Radeon Q with a 19" generic monitor - PCI bus 0:20:0 Any ideas? Thanks, -Marc

Dec. 13, 2002

Re: ipaq

by Dean M. Deaver

> From: Wes Allen <wallen(a)charter.net> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: ipaq > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:21:24 -0500 > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Is there a way to install another ethernet card? > I read the specs, this would be fun to play with/break/fix/break again. > > Wes Not without at least a soldering iron and a set of skills I don't possess. So I'd have to say no. BTW, I had > 1 request for the device, so it's either lottery, combination of coin tosses, or raffle. I'll figure something out probably next week when I'm not overloaded with real work. ...Dean

Dec. 13, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Some old stuff hanging around that I'm giving away too

by Simoncini, Matthew

Hi all, I received quite a few emails from interested folks for both the books and the computers. I'll inventory everything and post a message by the end of the month with what exactly I have. I'm leaning more towards a raffle (to benefit WLUG) for most of the hardware stuff and probably giving away the books. Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Frysinger [mailto:vapier@gentoo.org] > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 3:11 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Some old stuff hanging around that I'm giving away > too > > > On Thursday 12 December 2002 14:55, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > > I also have some programming and other computer related > books that are > > anyone's for the taking as well. > > i might be interested in some books that you have ... > anyway i can see what you have ? > -mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Dec. 13, 2002

RE: [Wlug] capture card

by Skip Gaede

Wes, Check out Freevo (http://freevo.sf.net) To record two channels, you need two tuners. --Skip > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > Behalf Of Wes Allen > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 9:31 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] capture card > > > Hi all, > I'm really toying with the idea of picking up one of > those $200 machines from > walmart and rolling out my own pvr. If for no other reason > than it would be > a good hobby. However, I want it to be able to do the one > useful thing that > I can't do with digital cable, watch one show while taping > another. My wife > and I have one tv (and one converter box), and often have > shows that conflict > with one another (we flip coins in the metaphoical "who's > there first" way). > So, I assume that I need a capture card with the > ability to tune digital > signals, no problem. Are there any that work with Linux? > THAT'S my problem. > > So, anyone know of a digital tv-capture/tuner card that > works with Linux? > > Wes > -- > ------ > This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please > send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Dec. 13, 2002

capture card

by Wes Allen

Hi all, I'm really toying with the idea of picking up one of those $200 machines from walmart and rolling out my own pvr. If for no other reason than it would be a good hobby. However, I want it to be able to do the one useful thing that I can't do with digital cable, watch one show while taping another. My wife and I have one tv (and one converter box), and often have shows that conflict with one another (we flip coins in the metaphoical "who's there first" way). So, I assume that I need a capture card with the ability to tune digital signals, no problem. Are there any that work with Linux? THAT'S my problem. So, anyone know of a digital tv-capture/tuner card that works with Linux? Wes -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Dec. 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Linux/document source control MS Word

by Chuck Homic

On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 07:58:26PM -0500, Frank Sweetser wrote: > MS Word has it's own version control built in. I don't know how well it > works, having never used it myself, but it is in there. It's hideous. I don't think I'll ever recover from the experience. If you're talking about having multiple people edit the document, and merge their changes, that is. But I think Word has a feature akin to "#include". You can reference another document to be inserted into your document. In this case you can break up your document into several .doc files, where presumably each author has control over one of their own, and they'll all be combined by the master document. Whether or not you use Word's revision control, or do it with includes, all you really need is a fileserver. Unless you're crazy and use something like CVS instead. I've said too much. -Chuck

Dec. 13, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Linux/document source control MS Word

by Frank Sweetser

On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 05:35:16PM -0500, Ritacco, Alan wrote: > Does anyone know of a logical way to allow users of MS Word to access a > single document from a linux server that will manage source control on the > document? These users are home users for a non-profit sports orginization > creating a document for end users. These people will be editing this > document via there home pc's. There is currently already a server they use > for statistics and such, which is a Linux box. They must us MS Word as they > are the most basic of basic users who can barely use PC's. MS Word has it's own version control built in. I don't know how well it works, having never used it myself, but it is in there. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer

Dec. 13, 2002

Lightweight Linux installer

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, The discussion about old used hardware got me to thinking about a recent experience. I was trying to put SuSE Linux 8.1 on a P90 with 32 MB of memory. SuSE was smart enough to jump into the ncurses installer instead of the fully graphical installer, but the installer was incredibly slow. No, not the part where the packages load slowly due to old, slow I/O devices, but the parts which ask the questions before the installation. This got me to wondering if there are any generic lightweight installers available for vintage hardware such as this. I don't see why I should be limited by a bloated installer when Linux itself works just fine on older hardware. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Dec. 12, 2002

Linux/document source control MS Word

by Ritacco, Alan

Does anyone know of a logical way to allow users of MS Word to access a single document from a linux server that will manage source control on the document? These users are home users for a non-profit sports orginization creating a document for end users. These people will be editing this document via there home pc's. There is currently already a server they use for statistics and such, which is a Linux box. They must us MS Word as they are the most basic of basic users who can barely use PC's. I know there are commerical software(s) available or co-location sites to do this, but I was not sure if anyone had ever run across anything that is specfic to MS Word docs and document/source control management on Linux (or other OS's, Solaris, etc.) Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Al

Dec. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Some old stuff hanging around that I'm giving away too

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 12 December 2002 2:55 pm, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > FYI: > > I've got a few PC's laying around at home that I'd like to donate to the > WLUG raffle or anyone else who thinks they can use one. These are by no > means powerful machines, but could probably be used as a firewall or low > end mail server. Hi everybody, I have no problems with folks bringing old equipment to WLUG meetings for raffle, trade, give away, sale, or whatever. We've done it before and it has worked out just fine. My only request is that if you don't get rid of your stuff, you take it back with you. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Dec. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Some old stuff hanging around that I'm giving away too

by Mike Frysinger

On Thursday 12 December 2002 14:55, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > I also have some programming and other computer related books that are > anyone's for the taking as well. i might be interested in some books that you have ... anyway i can see what you have ? -mike

Dec. 12, 2002

Some old stuff hanging around that I'm giving away too

by Simoncini, Matthew

FYI: I've got a few PC's laying around at home that I'd like to donate to the WLUG raffle or anyone else who thinks they can use one. These are by no means powerful machines, but could probably be used as a firewall or low end mail server. 2 - HP Vectra (I think XM's) Pentium 100 64 mb of memory sound, graphics, NIC one has a hard drive (1GB I think) 4x cd-rom ?? ** These used to be business desktops, but were retired a few years ago. 1 - Compaq Presario mini tower Pentium 75 64 mb of memory sound, graphics, NIC 850MB or 1GB hard drive 8x cd-rom ?? 13 or 14" color monitor All of these at one time or another were going to be re-built by me and donated to schools in my area, but work and my family took priority. I also have some programming and other computer related books that are anyone's for the taking as well. If anyone is interested, I'll can email more specific information after I invertory the stuff. If this sounds like some stuff that can be raffled off at the January meeting, I'd be willing to bring it all down. Matthew

Dec. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Re: ipaq

by Wes Allen

Is there a way to install another ethernet card? I read the specs, this would be fun to play with/break/fix/break again. Wes On Thursday 12 December 2002 1:56 pm, Dean M. Deaver wrote: > > Message: 1 > > From: brad <maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu> > > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Meeting Ideas... > > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:12:40 -0500 > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > A meeting like so would probably be best suited for January. That would > > give me time to get kitchsync working. Also i hope i can i have a ipaq to > > install linux on (mine has already been ..... well, exorcized). Wes has > > been wanting to do for some time, let's hope he can make it January's > > meeting. > > > > Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done? > > Speaking of ipaq, I have a 'Shark' Network Appliance that is now > gathering dust in my attic as I no longer have the time to fiddle > with it. Basically, it's a StrongARM SA-110 based device as > described on handhelds.org / platforms . Might be useful for > ipaq development. It's up for grabs, for free. Reply if you > want it. If I get more than one reply within the next week > (i.e. by noon next Thursday), the giveaway will be done by some > form of lottery (or it could be done by meeting raffle > if wlug still has those). > > Disclaimer: The last time I tried -- ~ 2 years ago -- it would boot > linux via bootp. I also had something of a useful distro (?) > "installed", with binaries cribbed from a mix of stuff from > handhelds.org and netwinder rpms. But it will probably take some > doing to get it up and running since I have no documentation for the > current firmware; and, the last time I checked, I wasn't greeted by > a 'may I help you' prompt upon powering it up. [I would power it up > now but I cannot find the power supply :) ] > > > ...Dean > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Dec. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Re: ipaq

by Wes Allen

Is this an embedded device? What ports? Would it make a good firewall? Wes On Thursday 12 December 2002 1:56 pm, Dean M. Deaver wrote: > > Message: 1 > > From: brad <maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu> > > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Meeting Ideas... > > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:12:40 -0500 > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > > A meeting like so would probably be best suited for January. That would > > give me time to get kitchsync working. Also i hope i can i have a ipaq to > > install linux on (mine has already been ..... well, exorcized). Wes has > > been wanting to do for some time, let's hope he can make it January's > > meeting. > > > > Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done? > > Speaking of ipaq, I have a 'Shark' Network Appliance that is now > gathering dust in my attic as I no longer have the time to fiddle > with it. Basically, it's a StrongARM SA-110 based device as > described on handhelds.org / platforms . Might be useful for > ipaq development. It's up for grabs, for free. Reply if you > want it. If I get more than one reply within the next week > (i.e. by noon next Thursday), the giveaway will be done by some > form of lottery (or it could be done by meeting raffle > if wlug still has those). > > Disclaimer: The last time I tried -- ~ 2 years ago -- it would boot > linux via bootp. I also had something of a useful distro (?) > "installed", with binaries cribbed from a mix of stuff from > handhelds.org and netwinder rpms. But it will probably take some > doing to get it up and running since I have no documentation for the > current firmware; and, the last time I checked, I wasn't greeted by > a 'may I help you' prompt upon powering it up. [I would power it up > now but I cannot find the power supply :) ] > > > ...Dean > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Dec. 12, 2002

Re: ipaq

by Dean M. Deaver

> Message: 1 > From: brad <maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu> > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Meeting Ideas... > Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:12:40 -0500 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > A meeting like so would probably be best suited for January. That would give > me time to get kitchsync working. Also i hope i can i have a ipaq to install > linux on (mine has already been ..... well, exorcized). Wes has been wanting > to do for some time, let's hope he can make it January's meeting. > > Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done? > Speaking of ipaq, I have a 'Shark' Network Appliance that is now gathering dust in my attic as I no longer have the time to fiddle with it. Basically, it's a StrongARM SA-110 based device as described on handhelds.org / platforms . Might be useful for ipaq development. It's up for grabs, for free. Reply if you want it. If I get more than one reply within the next week (i.e. by noon next Thursday), the giveaway will be done by some form of lottery (or it could be done by meeting raffle if wlug still has those). Disclaimer: The last time I tried -- ~ 2 years ago -- it would boot linux via bootp. I also had something of a useful distro (?) "installed", with binaries cribbed from a mix of stuff from handhelds.org and netwinder rpms. But it will probably take some doing to get it up and running since I have no documentation for the current firmware; and, the last time I checked, I wasn't greeted by a 'may I help you' prompt upon powering it up. [I would power it up now but I cannot find the power supply :) ] ...Dean

Dec. 12, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Ideas...

by Bill Smith

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:09:29 -0500 "Marc Hughes" <mhughes(a)wpidalamar.com> wrote: MH> Since the ipaq install was described as a mini-demo, perhaps a PDA MH> night? MH> IPaqs, zauruses, palms, whatever else. MH> MH> I'd suggest... MH> How to install linux on them. (including explanation of distros, and MH> package formats) MH> How to sync them with a linux desktop. MH> How to sync the linux pda with a windows desktop. MH> Other cool stuff? MH> war-walking? well, i'm looking to see what sort of Linux distro i can get to install on my Palm IIIx... there used to be a few, but any that i found either didn't exist anymore or (in one case) they hang upon installation, even when they claim to install on my handheld.... 8\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "Veal-Fattening Pen: Small, cramped office workstations built of fabric-covered disassemblable wall partitions and inhabited by junior staff members. Named after the small preslaughter cubicles used by the cattle industry." -- Douglas Coupland, "Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture" * TAG! v3.1 *

Dec. 12, 2002

REMINDER: WLUG Meeting

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held on Thursday, Dec. 12th at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus in Worcester. At this meeting, we'll informally discuss the Linux news and events which took place over the year 2002. Let's take a look at how far Linux has come in the past year, and muse over where it will head during the next year. Look back through your old magazines, e-mails, and newsgroups and let's see how many different things we can remember about this past year and Linux. We will also hold a brainstorming session to get more details about upcoming WLUG meetings for the year 2003. After the meeting, we'll make our monthly pilgrimage to the Boynton Restaurant for some pizza and beer as we celebrate Linux and the holidays together. See ya later! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings

by doug waud

Hi all > Chips and Dip? ;-) > > You know, this triggered an idea. I am not going to ask for details there! :-) > Every year, before the end of the calendar year, > you see these TV shows which summarize the news from the past 12 > months. What about Linux news from this year that could be summarized > at the meeting? OK, I'm grabbing at straws here......maybe I'll just stick > with the chips and dip. Given the quasi-fiasco with the last meeting where no topic was announced, I think the WLUG site should have *some* topic. I suggest "The year in Linux" as a default (following up on your above musings). It would be better than no topic at all and is broad enougth that we should be able to kindle some sort of fire with it. Summary: get a topic, anything reasonable, up on the web page asap. :-) doug

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings

by Stephen C. Daukas

I agree. Put up the topic, as Doug suggested, and run with it. I should think a quick run through the year's Linux Journal, and others, would make for a good framework for the evening. Of course, anyone could always add what they did/know/heard about, etc... doug waud wrote: > Hi all > >> Chips and Dip? ;-) >> >> You know, this triggered an idea. > > > I am not going to ask for details there! :-) > >> Every year, before the end of the calendar year, >> you see these TV shows which summarize the news from the past 12 >> months. What about Linux news from this year that could be >> summarized at the meeting? OK, I'm grabbing at straws >> here......maybe I'll just stick with the chips and dip. > > > Given the quasi-fiasco with the last meeting where no topic > was announced, I think the WLUG site should have *some* > topic. I suggest "The year in Linux" as a default > (following up on your above musings). It would be > better than no topic at all and is broad enougth > that we should be able to kindle some sort of > fire with it. > > Summary: get a topic, anything reasonable, up on > the web page asap. :-) >

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings

by Wes Allen

Or a kernel demo, anyone running a 2.5 kernel? Wes On Wednesday 11 December 2002 8:20 am, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Wednesday 11 December 2002 7:37 am, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > > Andy Stewart wrote: > > >HI everybody, > > > > [snip] > > > > >Given all of the above, that still leaves our December meeting open. > > > What do folks think we can pull together in the next few days? > > > > Chips and Dip? ;-) > > You know, this triggered an idea. Every year, before the end of the > calendar year, you see these TV shows which summarize the news from the > past 12 months. What about Linux news from this year that could be > summarized at the meeting? OK, I'm grabbing at straws here......maybe I'll > just stick with the chips and dip. > > Later, > > Andy -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings

by Andy Stewart

On Wednesday 11 December 2002 7:37 am, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: > >HI everybody, > > [snip] > > >Given all of the above, that still leaves our December meeting open. What > > do folks think we can pull together in the next few days? > > Chips and Dip? ;-) You know, this triggered an idea. Every year, before the end of the calendar year, you see these TV shows which summarize the news from the past 12 months. What about Linux news from this year that could be summarized at the meeting? OK, I'm grabbing at straws here......maybe I'll just stick with the chips and dip. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings

by Stephen C. Daukas

Andy Stewart wrote: >HI everybody, > [snip] >Given all of the above, that still leaves our December meeting open. What do >folks think we can pull together in the next few days? > Chips and Dip? ;-)

Dec. 11, 2002

Upcoming meetings

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, I like the idea of having a handhelds night, be they Zaurus, IPAQ, Palm, etc. I also would agree that January might be a good time for such a meeting. There seems to be a general consensus on this, so I'd like to propose that the January meeting will be the "Handhelds and Linux" meeting. I'll volunteer to bring my Palm IIIx and show how to sync it with Linux. Admittedly, that's not as cool as running Linux on the handheld itself, but hey, its one more thing to keep me away from Windows! I would like to hear from other volunteers who plan to bring their handheld devices so I can pencil you in. When I announce the meeting, I'd like to be able to say what types of devices will be discussed and demonstrated. That type of detail will draw people to the meeting. Note that Jon 'Maddog' Hall is scheduled to be our speaker at the February meeting. Maddog has come to WLUG meetings in the past and is an awesome speaker. You definitely do NOT want to miss this meeting! If we advertise this around the WPI campus and on the net, I don't see why we couldn't have a big crowd for this meeting. With regard to a possible LAN party, its not clear to me that we can pull it together just a few days before the meeting date (or am I wrong?), so should we plan on this for the March meeting? I propose that with all of the network gear and people's computers, we could accomodate the computer gamers as well as those who want security checks (nessus and the like), or even those who have never configured networking before and would like to give it a try. Given all of the above, that still leaves our December meeting open. What do folks think we can pull together in the next few days? Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Ideas...

by Wes Allen

On Tuesday 10 December 2002 5:52 pm, brad wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:17:53PM -0500, Brett Russ wrote: > > brad wrote: > > >Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done? > > These are all good questions. > > > Yeah, I would if you tell me I can reliably sync between Linux and > > Windows > > I believe this is possible. I will look into specifics. > > > and there are capable contact/task/calendar/etc apps that work > > well on the ipaq platform. > > Calendars are pretty simple to display on different platforms with the > ical file format. Good... > > Task, contacts ... i'll have to look this up. I believe contacts can > sync okay with outlook. Again i'll look into this. How about evolution? And I'm surprised that aethera isn't slated to sync with it's own apps.... > > > How about sound recording/playback > > functionality? > > This sort of works, there's development beening done in this area. ogg playback? Using theKompany's player? Maybe? > > > What LAN/WLAN cards are supported? > > Yes, there are a few that are supported. I don't know this ones, i'll > look for a hardware compat list. I'd like to see the list, if you find a decent url.... > > > These are the worries I have. I will go to handhelds.org and read up a > > bit but sometimes experienced users find that the info read on a site is > > not as rosy IRL. > > Yeah, these are all logical concerns. For some people converting to > linux doesn't make sence. There are a few downfalls from linux on the > ipaq, off the top of head. > - no pocket word, excel, outlook etc. Opie's stuff is good, and theKompany's programs should work on an iPAQ, or so they say... > - no natural handwritting recognition (only character recognition, like > the palm) I though qtopia had trainable letter recognition? And I don't like handwriting recognition, mostly because I've got terrible handwriting.... > - Hardware is less supported. > > > thanks & I would like to start attending meetings also, > > Perhaps after i give a little demonstration, you'll have a better idea > whether converting your ipaq is for you. > > --brad I'd sugguest two computers doing the setup.... one with a serial connection to do the bootloader and initial install (if there's a couple of iPAQs) and another with usb networking setup do polish it off. How hard is it to set up usb networking? Wes > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Dec. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Ideas...

by brad

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:17:53PM -0500, Brett Russ wrote: > brad wrote: > >Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done? > These are all good questions. > Yeah, I would if you tell me I can reliably sync between Linux and > Windows I believe this is possible. I will look into specifics. > and there are capable contact/task/calendar/etc apps that work > well on the ipaq platform. Calendars are pretty simple to display on different platforms with the ical file format. Task, contacts ... i'll have to look this up. I believe contacts can sync okay with outlook. Again i'll look into this. > How about sound recording/playback > functionality? This sort of works, there's development beening done in this area. > What LAN/WLAN cards are supported? Yes, there are a few that are supported. I don't know this ones, i'll look for a hardware compat list. > These are the worries I have. I will go to handhelds.org and read up a > bit but sometimes experienced users find that the info read on a site is > not as rosy IRL. Yeah, these are all logical concerns. For some people converting to linux doesn't make sence. There are a few downfalls from linux on the ipaq, off the top of head. - no pocket word, excel, outlook etc. - no natural handwritting recognition (only character recognition, like the palm) - Hardware is less supported. > thanks & I would like to start attending meetings also, Perhaps after i give a little demonstration, you'll have a better idea whether converting your ipaq is for you. --brad

Dec. 10, 2002