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Re: M-DISC 1000-year DVD and Blu-Ray

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > Last night we were talking about long-term storage media that won't > degrade or fail. What you want is M-DISC: > https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-1000-year-dvd-is-here/ > https://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-98913-M-Disc-100GB-Surface/dp/B017H13DFS I see you can still buy the media and the drives to _write_ as of recently. Has anyone actually used these? I did find this interesting site: https://obsoletemedia.org And I currently have an external 2Tb USB harddrive in my safe deposit box with family photos and such. I should really buy a new one and do a swap so I have another sitting around. John

Jan. 27, 2023

M-DISC 1000-year DVD and Blu-Ray

by Chuck Anderson

Last night we were talking about long-term storage media that won't degrade or fail. What you want is M-DISC: https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-1000-year-dvd-is-here/ https://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-98913-M-Disc-100GB-Surface/dp/B017H13DFS

Jan. 27, 2023

Re: Reminder! WLUG Meeting Tomorrow Jan 26th 2023: Topic Frame.work laptop demo!

by Chris (wolcen) Thompson

Gah, what an idiot - I found it, sorry. On 1/26/23 17:03, Chris (wolcen) Thompson via WLUG wrote: > Will there be simulcast via Jitsi tonight? I'm not up for hour+ the > train ride & walk each way, but do miss going. I'll get out there some > day! > > ~Chris > > On 1/26/23 16:57, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: >> Even though I won't be there tonight in person, this interesting >> article about USB-C and the framework laptop just dropped on >> hackaday.com >> >> https://hackaday.com/2023/01/26/all-about-usb-c-framework-laptop/ >> >> Cheers! >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/VRYJM… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/Y2WTM…

Jan. 26, 2023

Re: Reminder! WLUG Meeting Tomorrow Jan 26th 2023: Topic Frame.work laptop demo!

by Chris (wolcen) Thompson

Will there be simulcast via Jitsi tonight? I'm not up for hour+ the train ride & walk each way, but do miss going. I'll get out there some day! ~Chris On 1/26/23 16:57, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: > Even though I won't be there tonight in person, this interesting > article about USB-C and the framework laptop just dropped on > hackaday.com > > https://hackaday.com/2023/01/26/all-about-usb-c-framework-laptop/ > > Cheers! > John > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/VRYJM…

Jan. 26, 2023

Re: Reminder! WLUG Meeting Tomorrow Jan 26th 2023: Topic Frame.work laptop demo!

by John Stoffel

Even though I won't be there tonight in person, this interesting article about USB-C and the framework laptop just dropped on hackaday.com https://hackaday.com/2023/01/26/all-about-usb-c-framework-laptop/ Cheers! John

Jan. 26, 2023

Re: Reminder! WLUG Meeting Tomorrow Jan 26th 2023: Topic Frame.work laptop demo!

by John Stoffel

Hi guys, Sorry I won't make it in person tonight, not feeling my best so I don't want to share what I've got. I'll be online hopefully. Bummed I won't be able to touch the laptop in person. Cheers, John

Jan. 26, 2023

Reminder! WLUG Meeting Tomorrow Jan 26th 2023: Topic Frame.work laptop demo!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody, This is a reminder that we've got a meeting tomorrow at WPI! Time: 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 (Taylor Room) Down below the stairs. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc. I'm also going to show off passbolt <https://www.passbolt.com/>. This is a FOSS password manager. With the massive breach of lastpass, people may want to think about having total ownership of their password stores. This solves that. As usual snacks and refreshments will be provided and afterwards we'll head off and have dinner and keep the conversation going. I hope to see you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 25, 2023

Reminder! Meeting January 26th at 7pm Topic: Frame.work, passbolt

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody! Happy 2023! We've got our first meeting of the new year!! Time: 7pm Date: 1/26/2023 Location: WPI Student Center Rm 128 (Taylor Room) Topic(s): frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc. I'm also going to show off passbolt <https://www.passbolt.com/>. This is a FOSS password manager. With the massive breach of lastpass, people may want to think about having total ownership of their password stores. This solves that. As usual snacks and refreshments will be provided and afterwards we'll head off and have dinner can keep the conversation going. I hope to see you there! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 22, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Tim Keller

Since we are now back meeting in person, our *general* meeting place is in the WPI student center. I need to talk to Frank about scheduling a meeting place for us. I'd like to get back into the room we were in last time as the A/V setup worked really well. Thanks, Tim. On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 11:32 AM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It's been so long, where and when is the meeting again? I don't think I > ever attended when I joined in 2012 or so. > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:48 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> We have a meeting coming up on the 26th, this sounds like a great starter >> topic! >> >> Cara, would you be interested in coming to the meeting and doing a demo? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 3:14 PM Jason Couture via WLUG < >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >>> The other cool thing though: >>> You can 3d print a case for the old board if you upgrade. I plan on >>> making a dock for them that will fit in 2-3u with a usb-backplane with a >>> 10gbe switch, and 2x usb-c 10gbe + Power delivery. You'd be able to pack >>> them super dense. Great for a proxmox or harvester cluster. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 3:12 PM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've had no issues with mine on fedora. For what it's worth. >>>> >>>> Highly recommend framework. Although I did get the runaround with >>>> support about a usb4 dock. Kept getting me to try windows, despite the fact >>>> I had. >>>> >>>> But we have 3, they're rock solid. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 12:22 PM John Stoffel via WLUG < >>>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >>>>> >>>>> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing >>>>> >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days >>>>> >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting >>>>> >> the last required field filled in? Or what? >>>>> >>>>> > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I >>>>> > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 >>>>> > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical >>>>> > laptop that I could start using. >>>>> >>>>> Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new >>>>> toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd >>>>> like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. >>>>> >>>>> > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the >>>>> RAM or >>>>> > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the >>>>> laptop. >>>>> >>>>> > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only >>>>> > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware >>>>> > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to >>>>> > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad >>>>> > display driver that caused flickering >>>>> > ( >>>>> https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231… >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>> Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been >>>>> years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this >>>>> was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn >>>>> bleeding edge in terms of kernels. >>>>> >>>>> I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home >>>>> NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>>> Change Settings: >>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3RZJO… >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KZV2E… >>> >> >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/6AN6H… >> > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 16, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Jason Couture

It's been so long, where and when is the meeting again? I don't think I ever attended when I joined in 2012 or so. On Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:48 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > We have a meeting coming up on the 26th, this sounds like a great starter > topic! > > Cara, would you be interested in coming to the meeting and doing a demo? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 3:14 PM Jason Couture via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >> The other cool thing though: >> You can 3d print a case for the old board if you upgrade. I plan on >> making a dock for them that will fit in 2-3u with a usb-backplane with a >> 10gbe switch, and 2x usb-c 10gbe + Power delivery. You'd be able to pack >> them super dense. Great for a proxmox or harvester cluster. >> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 3:12 PM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I've had no issues with mine on fedora. For what it's worth. >>> >>> Highly recommend framework. Although I did get the runaround with >>> support about a usb4 dock. Kept getting me to try windows, despite the fact >>> I had. >>> >>> But we have 3, they're rock solid. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 12:22 PM John Stoffel via WLUG < >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >>>> >>>> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG >>>> wrote: >>>> >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing >>>> >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days >>>> >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting >>>> >> the last required field filled in? Or what? >>>> >>>> > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I >>>> > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 >>>> > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical >>>> > laptop that I could start using. >>>> >>>> Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new >>>> toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd >>>> like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. >>>> >>>> > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the >>>> RAM or >>>> > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the >>>> laptop. >>>> >>>> > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only >>>> > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware >>>> > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to >>>> > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad >>>> > display driver that caused flickering >>>> > ( >>>> https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231… >>>> ) >>>> >>>> Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been >>>> years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this >>>> was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn >>>> bleeding edge in terms of kernels. >>>> >>>> I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home >>>> NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. >>>> >>>> John >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>> Change Settings: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3RZJO… >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KZV2E… >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/6AN6H… >

Jan. 16, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Tim Keller

We have a meeting coming up on the 26th, this sounds like a great starter topic! Cara, would you be interested in coming to the meeting and doing a demo? Thanks, Tim. On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 3:14 PM Jason Couture via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > The other cool thing though: > You can 3d print a case for the old board if you upgrade. I plan on making > a dock for them that will fit in 2-3u with a usb-backplane with a 10gbe > switch, and 2x usb-c 10gbe + Power delivery. You'd be able to pack them > super dense. Great for a proxmox or harvester cluster. > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 3:12 PM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I've had no issues with mine on fedora. For what it's worth. >> >> Highly recommend framework. Although I did get the runaround with support >> about a usb4 dock. Kept getting me to try windows, despite the fact I had. >> >> But we have 3, they're rock solid. >> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 12:22 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >>> >>> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: >>> >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing >>> >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days >>> >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting >>> >> the last required field filled in? Or what? >>> >>> > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I >>> > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 >>> > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical >>> > laptop that I could start using. >>> >>> Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new >>> toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd >>> like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. >>> >>> > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the >>> RAM or >>> > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the >>> laptop. >>> >>> > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only >>> > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware >>> > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to >>> > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad >>> > display driver that caused flickering >>> > ( >>> https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231… >>> ) >>> >>> Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been >>> years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this >>> was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn >>> bleeding edge in terms of kernels. >>> >>> I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home >>> NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. >>> >>> John >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3RZJO… >>> >> _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KZV2E… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 16, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Jason Couture

The other cool thing though: You can 3d print a case for the old board if you upgrade. I plan on making a dock for them that will fit in 2-3u with a usb-backplane with a 10gbe switch, and 2x usb-c 10gbe + Power delivery. You'd be able to pack them super dense. Great for a proxmox or harvester cluster. On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 3:12 PM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've had no issues with mine on fedora. For what it's worth. > > Highly recommend framework. Although I did get the runaround with support > about a usb4 dock. Kept getting me to try windows, despite the fact I had. > > But we have 3, they're rock solid. > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 12:22 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> >>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: >> >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing >> >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days >> >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting >> >> the last required field filled in? Or what? >> >> > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I >> > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 >> > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical >> > laptop that I could start using. >> >> Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new >> toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd >> like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. >> >> > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the RAM >> or >> > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the >> laptop. >> >> > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only >> > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware >> > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to >> > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad >> > display driver that caused flickering >> > ( >> https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231… >> ) >> >> Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been >> years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this >> was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn >> bleeding edge in terms of kernels. >> >> I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home >> NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. >> >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3RZJO… >> >

Jan. 13, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Jason Couture

I've had no issues with mine on fedora. For what it's worth. Highly recommend framework. Although I did get the runaround with support about a usb4 dock. Kept getting me to try windows, despite the fact I had. But we have 3, they're rock solid. On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 12:22 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: > >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing > >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days > >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting > >> the last required field filled in? Or what? > > > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I > > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 > > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical > > laptop that I could start using. > > Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new > toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd > like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. > > > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the RAM > or > > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the > laptop. > > > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only > > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware > > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to > > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad > > display driver that caused flickering > > ( > https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231… > ) > > Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been > years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this > was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn > bleeding edge in terms of kernels. > > I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home > NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. > > John > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3RZJO… >

Jan. 13, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting >> the last required field filled in? Or what? > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical > laptop that I could start using. Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the RAM or > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the laptop. > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad > display driver that caused flickering > (https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231…) Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn bleeding edge in terms of kernels. I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. John

Jan. 13, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Cara Salter

On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote: > Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing > the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days > from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting > the last required field filled in? Or what? Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical laptop that I could start using. For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the RAM or storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the laptop. > > Does it run Linux? I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad display driver that caused flickering (https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231…) Hope this helps! Cara

Jan. 11, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Keith Wright

"Bacon, John via WLUG" <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > One of the WPI NetOps Workstudies bought one. She likes it a lot. > The ordering process took 42 days. > JOHN Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting the last required field filled in? Or what? Does it run Linux? > -----Original Message----- > From: David Glaser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 1:11 PM > To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > Cc: David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net> > Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Framework Laptops > > I ran across a laptop company called Framework > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fframe.wor… Looks like Microsoft helpfully fixed your link to point to themselves. If you can't trust MS marketing who can you trust? In other news, I was off line for ten days. This may be relevant to those looking for an ISP. If you want to know more, here is more than you want to know: http://www.free-comp-shop.com/none/lossage.html -- Keith

Jan. 11, 2023

Re: January meeting date?

by Joel

I can also make the 26th. Thanks, Joel On January 5, 2023 8:10:30 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > >> Great question! It turns out I have a conflict on both the 12th and >> the 19th. So I'm cool with having it on another day.. I know people >> have scouts and stuff, I'd even be cool with the 26th. > > I think the 26th would work for me. > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/HHW3U…

Jan. 6, 2023

Re: January meeting date?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> writes: > Great question! It turns out I have a conflict on both the 12th and > the 19th. So I'm cool with having it on another day.. I know people > have scouts and stuff, I'd even be cool with the 26th. I think the 26th would work for me.

Jan. 6, 2023

Re: January meeting date?

by Tim Keller

Great question! It turns out I have a conflict on both the 12th and the 19th. So I'm cool with having it on another day.. I know people have scouts and stuff, I'd even be cool with the 26th. What do people think?' Thanks, Tim. On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 3:46 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > Where & when are we meeting in January? > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/AR6AP… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 5, 2023

January meeting date?

by John Stoffel

Where & when are we meeting in January?

Jan. 4, 2023

Re: [EXT] Looking for a good VPS provider

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Chuck" == Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 07:49:58PM -0500, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: >> It's only email TO @charter.net which is being blocked. And I've >> looked at all the UCE blacklists and my IP isn't listed. *shrug* Not >> much else I can do. > Did you configure SPF and DKIM and DMARC? If not, that might be why > Charter is blocking your email. I have SPF configured, haven't done DKIM and DMARC quite yet.

Dec. 19, 2022

Re: [EXT] Looking for a good VPS provider

by Chuck Anderson

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 07:49:58PM -0500, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: > It's only email TO @charter.net which is being blocked. And I've > looked at all the UCE blacklists and my IP isn't listed. *shrug* Not > much else I can do. Did you configure SPF and DKIM and DMARC? If not, that might be why Charter is blocking your email.

Dec. 18, 2022

Re: December WLUG meeting This Thursday! Topic: Tailscale VPN!

by John Stoffel

> We've got a wlug meeting this Thursday! > Date: December 15th, 2022 > Time: 7pm > Location: WPI campus center room 129! > Topic: Tailscale VPN > Not interested in exposing ports on the internet but still want to > get to your machine at home? Want to expose services securely? > Interested in setting up your own encrypted? > Tailscale might do what you need! > Food and drinks will be provided and we'll grab dinner and keep the conversation going! Damn... totally missed this, but I've been busy with other stuff lately. Next year for sure!

Dec. 18, 2022

Re: [EXT] Looking for a good VPS provider

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 03:10:24PM -0500, Chris (wolcen) Thompson via WLUG wrote: >> Secondly: in re: Linode being blocked for email, I'm finding it hard to >> verify this (and in fact, I see evidence to the contrary). Are you certain >> that your mail server is not listed on any blacklists? If you are getting an >> "AUP#In-1000" this would indicate a UCE listing. You can try the community >> forums to get more information about the issue. > Linode automatically blocks standard SMTP ports (25, 465, and 587) to combat > spam. You can get them to lift the block per-node by submitting a support > ticket, it was pretty easy for me to do when I was still on Linode. Just to followup here, Linode is NOT blocking port 25 either inbound or outbound, nor 465 or 587. I've been running stoffel.org on there with mail and http for years now. It's only email TO @charter.net which is being blocked. And I've looked at all the UCE blacklists and my IP isn't listed. *shrug* Not much else I can do. Right now I'm playing with vultr VPS to see how that works and if I run into problems, but I honestly see me moving to panix down the line. I'm happy to pay more for a better service where I can run my own VPS and mail setup. More as I get this moving better over the Xmas downtime.

Dec. 18, 2022

We've got a wlug meeting Today!!

by Tim Keller

Hey Everybody!! We've got a wlug meeting Today!! Date: December 15th, 2022 Time: 7pm Location: WPI campus center room 129! Virtual Location: WlugMA Jitsi Meeting! <https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA> Topic: Tailscale VPN Not interested in exposing ports on the internet but still want to get to your machine at home? Want to expose services securely? Tailscale might do what you need! Food and drinks will be provided and we'll grab dinner and keep the conversation going! Later! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Dec. 15, 2022