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Re: [Wlug] Last modified time

by Bill Mills-Curran

On 23 May 2003, Michael Long wrote: ML> Date: 23 May 2003 23:31:14 -0400 ML> From: Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com> ML> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org ML> To: WLUG <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> ML> Subject: [Wlug] Last modified time ML> ML> How reliable is the ls -l listing. In other words is it possible to ML> modify a file and leave false timestamp on it. ML> ML> Thanks, ML> -- ML> Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com> ML> ML> ML> _______________________________________________ ML> Wlug mailing list ML> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org ML> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug ML> Michael, Yes, it's easy to change the time. The "utime" function is standard and does the trick. There's a perl binding, too. Bill

May 24, 2003

Re: [Wlug] cd-writer problem

by Gregory Avedissian

Where's your output file? Maybe attachments don't work on this list. Did you identify the drive as scsi at boot up and load module ide-scsi? What's the output of cdrecord -scanbus look like? Greg Stéphane Purnelle wrote: > Hi > > I have a problem with my cd-writer. > On windows, I have no problem (dommage). > But with my redhat 8.0 kernel 2.4.18-24.8.0. I cannot burn a CD. > maybe it's a bad version of kernel ? > > writer : liteon 18125s 48x12x48 with burn proof > (http://www.liteonit.com) > > > You can read the output of x-cd-roast in the attached file. > > than you for your futur anwser > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 24, 2003

Last modified time

by Michael Long

How reliable is the ls -l listing. In other words is it possible to modify a file and leave false timestamp on it. Thanks, -- Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com>

May 24, 2003

Interesting reading

by Andy Stewart

http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 20, 2003

Re: [Wlug] http load generators

by Doug Chamberlin

At 5/9/2003 01:32 PM (Friday), twg3(a)attbi.com wrote: >Does anyone have any recommendations of open source tools for generating very >high volume http traffic simulating large numbers of clients form multiple IP >addresses? I did a search on sourceforge and most of the projects have not >released any new code in 18 months or more - so not sure of status on most of >them. > >I need to test an application that uses HTTP as its transport layer (but not >HTML) so open source tools would allow the customizations I need, with out >haveing to write everything from scratch. This looks promising. Free Java-based tool with book to explain how to best use it: >From: Frank Cohen <fcohen(a)pushtotest.com> >Subject: New book: Automating Web Tests with TestMaker >X-BeenThere: newsletter(a)lists.pushtotest.com >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 >Precedence: list >List-Id: PushToTest Newsletter Mailing List <newsletter.lists.pushtotest.com> >List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.pushtotest.com/mailman/listinfo/newsletter>, > <mailto:newsletter-request@lists.pushtotest.com?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://fries.pushtotest.com/pipermail/newsletter> >List-Post: <mailto:newsletter@lists.pushtotest.com> >List-Help: <mailto:newsletter-request@lists.pushtotest.com?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: <http://lists.pushtotest.com/mailman/listinfo/newsletter>, > <mailto:newsletter-request@lists.pushtotest.com?subject=subscribe> > >May, 2003 > >From: Frank Cohen, founder of PushToTest > >I am very happy to announce the immediate availability of my new book: > >"Automating Web Tests with TestMaker" > >Details are at http://www.pushtotest.com/ptt, click on the book icon for a >special discount right now!

May 20, 2003

Re: [Wlug] scanner help

by Andy Stewart

On Monday 19 May 2003 3:50 pm, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > Andy, > > Thanks for the pointers on getting my scanner going. The key was to > get a newer version of xsane. I took the lazy road and upgraded to Red > Hat 9. The version of xsane in the upgrade did the trick. > > BTW, I did have one glitch in the upgrade -- it did a poor job of > modifying modules.conf, so a bunch of stuff (printers, network, etc.) > stopped working until I fixed it. > > Bill Hi Bill, I'm glad to hear that you finally go this to work! I have heard similar RedHat upgrade stories from others. However, I've yet to see a completely successful upgrade from any distribution. Perhaps I'm just hearing the vocal folks. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 20, 2003

Re: [Wlug] scanner help

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Fri, 2 May 2003, Andy Stewart wrote: AS> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 22:31:14 -0400 AS> From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> AS> Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org AS> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org AS> Subject: Re: [Wlug] scanner help AS> AS> On Friday 02 May 2003 3:30 pm, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: AS> > I have a new Epson 1660 scanner, and I'm having difficulty getting it AS> > working with the sane drivers. Here's what I have thus far... <snip> Andy, Thanks for the pointers on getting my scanner going. The key was to get a newer version of xsane. I took the lazy road and upgraded to Red Hat 9. The version of xsane in the upgrade did the trick. BTW, I did have one glitch in the upgrade -- it did a poor job of modifying modules.conf, so a bunch of stuff (printers, network, etc.) stopped working until I fixed it. Bill

May 19, 2003

writer problem

by Stéphane Purnelle

I forgot the attached file. And the writer model is 48125S not 18125S. Calling: /usr/lib/xcdroast-0.98/bin/xcdrwrap CDRECORD dev=0,0,0 gracetime=2 fs=2048k driveropts=burnfree,noforcespeed -v -useinfo speed=12 -dao -dummy -eject -pad -data "/rsrv/var/images/download1-01.img" ... scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 pregap1: -1 Cdrecord 2.0 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' Driveropts: 'burnfree,noforcespeed' atapi: 1 Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info : 'LITE-ON ' Identifikation : 'LTR-48125S ' Revision : '1S05' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1422080 = 1388 KB FIFO size : 2097152 = 2048 KB Track 01: data 648 MB padsize: 30 KB Total size: 745 MB (73:49.85) = 332239 sectors Lout start: 745 MB (73:51/64) = 332239 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type B, low Beta category (B-) (4) ATIP start of lead in: -11933 (97:22/67) ATIP start of lead out: 359849 (79:59/74) Disk type: Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 43 Manufacturer: Acer Media Technology, Inc. Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 27610 Forcespeed is OFF. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 12 in dummy SAO mode for single session. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is ON. Sending CUE sheet... Writing pregap for track 1 at -150 Starting new track at sector: 0 cdrecord: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A 00 00 00 05 16 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 04 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 08 03 00 00 Sense Key: 0x4 Hardware Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x08 Qual 0x03 (logical unit communication crc error (ultra-dma/32)) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.033s timeout 200s Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 write track data: error after 2666496 bytes Writing time: 23.177s Average write speed 191.3x. Min drive buffer fill was 99% Fixating... WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode. Fixating time: 0.703s BURN-Free was never needed. cdrecord: fifo had 74 puts and 43 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 33 times full, min fill was 75%.

May 19, 2003

cd-writer problem

by Stéphane Purnelle

Hi I have a problem with my cd-writer. On windows, I have no problem (dommage). But with my redhat 8.0 kernel 2.4.18-24.8.0. I cannot burn a CD. maybe it's a bad version of kernel ? writer : liteon 18125s 48x12x48 with burn proof (http://www.liteonit.com) You can read the output of x-cd-roast in the attached file. than you for your futur anwser

May 19, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Xfer mail from Outlook to...

by Bill Smith

On Sun, 19 May 2002 11:54:13 -0700 donald vitkus <devitk(a)comcast.net> wrote: DV> why have i got so many copies of this message WHEW! I was beginning to think the problem was on MY end... if YOU are seeing it, then it's not "just me"... ;) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact." -- Sherlock Holmes, in 'The Boscombe Valley Mystery' * TAG! v3.1 *

May 19, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Testing WLUG e-mail list

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, I've just sent e-mail to Chuck and Frank to see if they can help remedy the "echo" situation. Thank you for your patience, and my apologies (in advance) if you get 14 copies of this. :-) Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Testing WLUG e-mail list

by Brian J. Conway

> I've been getting these emails, as well as anything sent to my > @alum.wpi.edu forwarding address multiple times. Looking at and > comparing I too have been driven to the brink of sanity by this for the past couple days. Rock on. ;-) Brian J. Conway bconway(a)alum.wpi.edu "LINUX is obsolete" - Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992

May 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Testing WLUG e-mail list

by Dave Coutu

Andy, I've been getting these emails, as well as anything sent to my @alum.wpi.edu forwarding address multiple times. Looking at and comparing the message headers, it would appear that mcafee.wpi.edu might be the culprit as it's the point in the chain of mail relays where timestamps start changing. Maybe it's in a forwarding loop or it's mail queue is hosed somehow so that it thinks messages haven't been delivered yet, so it retries. *shrug* Glad to know that I'm not the only one seeing this problem, it's been happening since Friday and is driving me batty. Anyone else at WPI have an idea what might be going on or is experiencing this issue? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Stewart" <andystewart(a)attbi.com> To: "Worcester Linux Users' Group" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: [Wlug] Testing WLUG e-mail list > > ...I'm trying to figure out why I got 14 copies (literally!) of Steve Daukas' > posting, as well as a couple of others. > > Andy

May 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Testing WLUG e-mail list

by Theo Van Dinter

On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 04:00:33PM -0700, Dave Coutu wrote: > retries. *shrug* Glad to know that I'm not the only one seeing this > problem, it's been happening since Friday and is driving me batty. Anyone > else at WPI have an idea what might be going on or is experiencing this > issue? I haven't actually seen duplicate messages, very likely due to this useful procmail rule: :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 16384 $HOME/.msgid.cache It stops the same message (based on message id) from being received multiple times, which is very useful if people (for instance) respond to both you and a list you read, you'll only get the mail once. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Where are all the great pot head writers? There aren't any. Because no one wants to read a book about the most delicious twinkie." - Dave Attell, Insomniac, New York City, 2001

May 18, 2003

Testing WLUG e-mail list

by Andy Stewart

...I'm trying to figure out why I got 14 copies (literally!) of Steve Daukas' posting, as well as a couple of others. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Xfer mail from Outlook to...

by Baris Hasdemir

hi, libdbx had worked for me to transfer my e-mails from outlook express to mbox format. http://freshmeat.net/projects/libdbx/?topic_id=28 baris On Sun, 18 May 2003 08:32:35 -0400 Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Anyone out there know how to get email out of Outlook/Exchange and into > something else? > > I use outlook at work, and also at home when doing stuff for work, but > want to get all that stuff into a flat file similar to what UNIX uses > (used?), which is also similar to what Eudora uses. In other words, I > want to get away from Outlook/exchange all together and get into a > format that is easily manipulated by scripts or easily imported into > other email applications. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > Regards, > Steve >

May 18, 2003

Xfer mail from Outlook to...

by Stephen C. Daukas

Anyone out there know how to get email out of Outlook/Exchange and into something else? I use outlook at work, and also at home when doing stuff for work, but want to get all that stuff into a flat file similar to what UNIX uses (used?), which is also similar to what Eudora uses. In other words, I want to get away from Outlook/exchange all together and get into a format that is easily manipulated by scripts or easily imported into other email applications. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Regards, Steve

May 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] http load generators

by Tom Guilderson

Marc, Thanks for the response. I have not actually downloaded your code and am just gathering info right now, but I do have a couple of quick questions in the event your project code base is a fit for what I need to do: 1. what language - your web site indicates c++, scheme/guile for the scripts but sourceforge indicates delphi/kylix???? 2. how complete/incomplete http handling compete, scripting engine, gui (do not really care too much about), etc. ?? 3. GPL? We would need to modify since the client side of the application is not a browser/html based. It just uses http and servlets as the tier between the client and backend business logic and database - so we sould need to modify the scripting logic anyway to handle serailized java objects and dynamically create the next appropriate request (eg fixing the previous failed request or going on to the next step in the business process). 4. Would you prefer to give CVS committ access or to get new code/patches sent through you???? Or would you prefer I created a fork giving you credit for initial code base? Ultimately, the load generator is for internal use at the company I work for and all the changes from us would be funnelled through one person designated as the maintainer of the code internally. TIA, Tom Guilderson On 2003.05.09 15:43 Marc Hughes wrote: > Sounds like you found one of my projects! (incomplete, and nothing > released in 18 months) > http://www.wpidalamar.com/projects/123loadtest/ > > -Marc > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of twg3(a)attbi.com > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 1:33 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] http load generators > > > Does anyone have any recommendations of open source tools for > generating > very high volume http traffic simulating large numbers of clients form > multiple IP addresses? I did a search on sourceforge and most of the > projects have not released any new code in 18 months or more - so not > sure of status on most of them. > > I need to test an application that uses HTTP as its transport layer > (but > not > HTML) so open source tools would allow the customizations I need, with > out haveing to write everything from scratch. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 14, 2003

Clarification: location of next meeting

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, There was a minor error on the WLUG home page that might have caused some confusion. The next WLUG meeting is in a new location, that being Olin Hall room 107. FYI: I'm told that the lobby area of Salisbury Labs is/will be undergoing renovation, hence we cannot use that room for the entire summer, so we'll be in Olin Hall 107 for the next few meetings. My apologies if there was any confusion. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 14, 2003

Computer 4 sale

by Marc Hughes

Dual PIII 1ghz Case + power 512mb ram 2 Hard Drives - 16gig + 8gig (or about that size) Sony IDE CDRW (fast, I think 48x,24x,16x) Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI Ethernet card $400 There will be 2 big gaping holes in the front if I can't find the 5 1/4 drive bay covers. No video card. Also, nVidia geForce 3 and above cards don't work with this motherboard. nVidia blames it on Tyan, and Tyan blames it on nVidia. My Radeon 7550 works just fine (but you don't get that). If you want, I have an old voodoo3 card which was in this at one point, it worked then, you can have it for free with the computer. Under Windows, I was never able to get USB working well (keyboard was fine, camera + mouse weren't). Under linux, usb worked 100%, so I'm assuming it's just my luck with windows and not the hardware. I will be wiping the drives clean before selling it, so you're on your own for an OS. I think one of the drives may be mounted "creatively" so be forewarned. If anyone wants it, hopefully we can arrange a drop-off & pickup, perhaps at a wlug meeting to avoid any shipping. Please send replies to me, and not the list. -Marc

May 12, 2003

REMINDER: WLUG Meeting Thurs. May 15th 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

HI Everybody, This is a reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Thursday, May 15th, 2003 at 7:00 PM in Olin Hall 107 (note new location!) on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA. At this meeting, our guest speaker will be Vince McHugh. Vince will talk to WLUG about the Common Unix Printing System (CUPS). The second part of Vince's talk will be about imaging and scanning. In this context, Vince will talk about how his company, NECS, is making Canon scanning products work in the Linux environment. Vince is a member of GNHLUG and is also a Systems Support Manager for NECS/Canon (the largest independent Canon dealer in New England). Vince has been involved with Linux for the last 4-5 years, and also possesses a Novell CNE and a Windows MCP. Light refreshments will be served at the meeting. Afterwards, we'll go to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. All are welcome! -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 11, 2003

RE: [Wlug] http load generators

by Marc Hughes

Sounds like you found one of my projects! (incomplete, and nothing released in 18 months) http://www.wpidalamar.com/projects/123loadtest/ -Marc -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of twg3(a)attbi.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 1:33 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] http load generators Does anyone have any recommendations of open source tools for generating very high volume http traffic simulating large numbers of clients form multiple IP addresses? I did a search on sourceforge and most of the projects have not released any new code in 18 months or more - so not sure of status on most of them. I need to test an application that uses HTTP as its transport layer (but not HTML) so open source tools would allow the customizations I need, with out haveing to write everything from scratch. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

May 9, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat GUI performance

by Charles R. Anderson

On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 02:27:27PM -0400, Karl Hiramoto wrote: karl> Yes, I've heard people claim that using the preemptive scheduler patch karl> on 2.4 it "feels" faster. but results seem anecdotal. karl> karl> Anyone here try that patch? No, but I just found this work I might try: http://www.rexursive.com/software.html -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

May 9, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat GUI performance

by Karl Hiramoto

Yes, I've heard people claim that using the preemptive scheduler patch on 2.4 it "feels" faster. but results seem anecdotal. Anyone here try that patch? My guess would be that total CPU throughput decreases, but interactive feeling increases, just what you want on workstation, but not on most servers. And i wouldn't try expermental patches on my servers :) On Fri, 9 May 2003 twg3(a)attbi.com wrote: > Some of this may also be related to the OS scheduler and VM configuration of the > kernel - both of which have been improved in the new 2.5/2.6 kernel. The new > shceduler is preemptive and does a better job of giving interactive processes a > higher priority which makes the box "feel" faster. It is because of this feel, > that I actually run a 2.2 kernel on my desktop/workstation since it feels faster > than a 2.4 kernel (but does not support as much hardware which I can run 2.5 for > if I need to). > > > > I've notice that when going from redhat 7.x to 8 or 9 you need a > > minimum of 256M RAM. with 128M and running gnome there is way too > > much swap space in use. > > > > Gnome and KDE are very bulky GUI's.. twm or blackbox are the slimest > > and fastest. A friend of mine runs gentoo linux and it seems very > > fast compared to redhat on the same box. > > > > type the "free" command at the prompt and see your memory usage also > > "ps aumx" to see process memory usage. > > > > I would reccomend spending the roughly $40 to get a 256M upgrade for > > your box. More RAM almost always helps. The os can keep more things > > in memory and give you a faster response. I use 512M myself. > > > > hope this helps > > > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey) wrote: > > > > > I have a general question about Linux performance... > > > > > > I am running Redhat 8.0 on a Dell 400MHz, 128MB system (OptiPlex) with an > > > 8MB ATI Rage Pro Video card. I have a fairly basic workstation installation, > > with > > > SSHd, ftpd, telnetd, apached, and a couple other services running. Gnome > > seems > > > to take forever to open windows/applications. It can be on the order of 10 > > seconds > > > to a minute for some applications to come up. (Mozilla is one of the worst, > > even > > > to just bring up a local file as the home page for the browser) > > > > > > Is Gnome just a very slow GUI, or is there something that I can do to speed up > > my > > > system?? > > > > > > I know of several (5-6) people who have installed RedHat 7.2...8.0 on Dell and > > Sony > > > systems (all CPU are 866MHz+) with Gnome or KDE and the performance has been > > > very slow in the GUI. Even with a higher end 1.5GHz CPU/512MB RAM system. > > > > > > Is there a Linux distribution that has a standard GUI that is very responsive? > > Is Redhat > > > just too bulky to run quickly, or do I need to download a better GUI for > > Redhat? > > > > > > With Windows2000, this system was very responsive, and the other people I know > > > about are running XP, which is so much faster that they run XP most of the > > time now. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > Cell: 508-517-4819 > > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > > > The hardest thing is to disguise your feelings when you put a lot of > > relatives on the train for home. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø The hardest thing is to disguise your feelings when you put a lot of relatives on the train for home.

May 9, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Redhat GUI performance

by twg3＠attbi.com

Some of this may also be related to the OS scheduler and VM configuration of the kernel - both of which have been improved in the new 2.5/2.6 kernel. The new shceduler is preemptive and does a better job of giving interactive processes a higher priority which makes the box "feel" faster. It is because of this feel, that I actually run a 2.2 kernel on my desktop/workstation since it feels faster than a 2.4 kernel (but does not support as much hardware which I can run 2.5 for if I need to). > > I've notice that when going from redhat 7.x to 8 or 9 you need a > minimum of 256M RAM. with 128M and running gnome there is way too > much swap space in use. > > Gnome and KDE are very bulky GUI's.. twm or blackbox are the slimest > and fastest. A friend of mine runs gentoo linux and it seems very > fast compared to redhat on the same box. > > type the "free" command at the prompt and see your memory usage also > "ps aumx" to see process memory usage. > > I would reccomend spending the roughly $40 to get a 256M upgrade for > your box. More RAM almost always helps. The os can keep more things > in memory and give you a faster response. I use 512M myself. > > hope this helps > > On Fri, 9 May 2003, Hemstreet, Jeffrey L (Jeffrey) wrote: > > > I have a general question about Linux performance... > > > > I am running Redhat 8.0 on a Dell 400MHz, 128MB system (OptiPlex) with an > > 8MB ATI Rage Pro Video card. I have a fairly basic workstation installation, > with > > SSHd, ftpd, telnetd, apached, and a couple other services running. Gnome > seems > > to take forever to open windows/applications. It can be on the order of 10 > seconds > > to a minute for some applications to come up. (Mozilla is one of the worst, > even > > to just bring up a local file as the home page for the browser) > > > > Is Gnome just a very slow GUI, or is there something that I can do to speed up > my > > system?? > > > > I know of several (5-6) people who have installed RedHat 7.2...8.0 on Dell and > Sony > > systems (all CPU are 866MHz+) with Gnome or KDE and the performance has been > > very slow in the GUI. Even with a higher end 1.5GHz CPU/512MB RAM system. > > > > Is there a Linux distribution that has a standard GUI that is very responsive? > Is Redhat > > just too bulky to run quickly, or do I need to download a better GUI for > Redhat? > > > > With Windows2000, this system was very responsive, and the other people I know > > about are running XP, which is so much faster that they run XP most of the > time now. > > > > Thanks, > > jeff > > > > > > > > -- > > €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > The hardest thing is to disguise your feelings when you put a lot of > relatives on the train for home. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 9, 2003