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Re: [Wlug] Network configuration with OpenLDAP

by Charles R. Anderson

On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 05:46:06PM -0500, Michael Long wrote: > Hi, > > My goal is to set up a small business network that will have both linux and windows > clients. I would like to use OpenLDAP for my authentication services. The problem > is that I have never done anything like this and don't know where to start. I have > read the docs at openldap.org, LDAP-HOWTO, LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO, > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html and am not sure > where to start. I would like to start by building the services that will allow me > to authenticate users and configure file shares that they have access to. Which > service(s) should I start with PAM, LDAP, other? This isn't going to be easy. Here are a few pointers I found on Google: http://www.bayour.com/LDAPv3-HOWTO.html http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2003-November/002398.html http://www.nyetwork.org/fvlug/Fvlug_Samba3.ppt

March 16, 2004

Network configuration with OpenLDAP

by Michael Long

Hi, My goal is to set up a small business network that will have both linux and windows clients. I would like to use OpenLDAP for my authentication services. The problem is that I have never done anything like this and don't know where to start. I have read the docs at openldap.org, LDAP-HOWTO, LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO, http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html and am not sure where to start. I would like to start by building the services that will allow me to authenticate users and configure file shares that they have access to. Which service(s) should I start with PAM, LDAP, other? Thanks, Mike

March 16, 2004

Fwd: consulting assistance

by Andy Stewart

If anybody has any interest in this opportunity, please contact Ralph Fasano directly at rfasano(a)risd.edu. -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 16, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Open source = security

by Michael Long

Thanks to everyone who replied. I am now able to explain the benefits of open source much more clearly. I have since had a very interesting followup conversation with the architect and I believe he may be starting to understand the benefit of open source. Mike

March 12, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Open source = security

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 11:09:37AM -0500, Michael Long wrote: > guess it is not. I was wondering how others would answer this question? I was working at RSA Security for a while, and my manager gave me the same sort of line: We make security products here, you definitely don't want that open source! <some other reference about open source being less secure> My response was along the lines of: Actually, that's _exactly_ the software I would want open source. Security through obscurity (which is what most non-open source relies on) doesn't work. He wasn't happy. <G> Anyway, yeah, "real" security people want as many people looking at their code/algorithm/etc as possible to make sure it's secure in and of itself. There's reasons that things like MD5, SHA1, AES, etc, all went through a rigorous review process before they're made a "standard". -- Randomly Generated Tagline: s Blind, Lingerie makes Great Braille!

March 12, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Open source = security

by orbitz＠ezabel.com

The security of an application is not hidden in a trick in the code but the algorithm it is using. Being able to see the code (assuming it were bug free) should never reveal a bug in the security framework. Obfuscation is not security. On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:09:37 -0500 (EST) "Michael Long" <mlong(a)datalong.com> wrote: > Hi, > > During a discussion with an application architect, while trouble shooting SQL > Servers "security" behavior, he asked how an application can be more secure > when anyone can view the security related code. I thought this was self > evident, but I guess it is not. I was wondering how others would answer this > question? > > Thanks, > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 12, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Open source = security

by Scott Venier

It's all about auditing. The more people who can look at the code can find AND FIX any bugs. And the bugs do get fixed. For historical evidence of that look at how quickly the Linux kernel was fixed when the "teardrop" bug was revealed. It took Windows much longer to release a patch. There are probably more recent examples, but that's the first one that comes to mind that effected both open and closed source software. This is the excat same reason that professional software developers have code reviews. Many eyes make all problems simple. Scott Michael Long said: > Hi, > > During a discussion with an application architect, while trouble shooting > SQL > Servers "security" behavior, he asked how an application can be more > secure when > anyone can view the security related code. I thought this was self > evident, but I > guess it is not. I was wondering how others would answer this question? > > Thanks, > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 12, 2004

Open source = security

by Michael Long

Hi, During a discussion with an application architect, while trouble shooting SQL Servers "security" behavior, he asked how an application can be more secure when anyone can view the security related code. I thought this was self evident, but I guess it is not. I was wondering how others would answer this question? Thanks, Mike

March 12, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Fwd: Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004

by Martin, Eric

Gentoo has a live cd for mac, although it's not gui based...also there's a bit of config for oldworld macs... -----Original Message----- From: doug waud [mailto:douglas.waud@umassmed.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:59 AM To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Fwd: Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004 Hi all Andy Stewart wrote: > Subject: > Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004 snip,snip > We will be handing out printed materials and CDs with good > quality FOSS, like TheOpenCD and Knoppix. ..... > Our role will be to help coordinate the event and > provide ..... > high quality (pressed) CDs that local > teams can give out to the general public on Software Freedom Day. Andy, at our meetings, you have asked what we might do with our accumulated $. This FOSS initiative makes me wonder whether making a lot of Knoppix discs which we could all carry around and hand out when queried about Linux, might be a good use of our resources. It would strike me as being right on target with our objective of proselytizing. I, for one, continually run into people curious about Linux and free software in general. If I could hand them a Knoppix disk and say "Here, see for yourself!" I think I would get good bang for buck. In particular the term "free" would sink in well. Any thoughts? doug PS A lot of non Linux users use MACS. Does Knoppix work there/is there a MAC Knoppix alternative? It would be a shame to miss this constituency; MAC users may be human too! :-) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 11, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Fwd: Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004

by doug waud

Hi all Andy Stewart wrote: > Subject: > Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004 snip,snip > We will be handing out printed materials and CDs with good > quality FOSS, like TheOpenCD and Knoppix. ..... > Our role will be to help coordinate the event and > provide ..... > high quality (pressed) CDs that local > teams can give out to the general public on Software Freedom Day. Andy, at our meetings, you have asked what we might do with our accumulated $. This FOSS initiative makes me wonder whether making a lot of Knoppix discs which we could all carry around and hand out when queried about Linux, might be a good use of our resources. It would strike me as being right on target with our objective of proselytizing. I, for one, continually run into people curious about Linux and free software in general. If I could hand them a Knoppix disk and say "Here, see for yourself!" I think I would get good bang for buck. In particular the term "free" would sink in well. Any thoughts? doug PS A lot of non Linux users use MACS. Does Knoppix work there/is there a MAC Knoppix alternative? It would be a shame to miss this constituency; MAC users may be human too! :-)

March 11, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by jeff

Andy Stewart wrote: >>From Softpro - FYI: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Marlborough Softpro to Close - Last Day is March 20. > Softpro Books Waltham will Serve as Single Location > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > It is with great sadness that we've decided to consolidate our > operations into our one Waltham store. > > The economy has taken its toll on our Marlborough location which we opened > with great optimism over 4 years ago. Our last day will be Sat., March 20. > Between now and then, we're selling all of our Marlboro inventory at 25% off > (sorry, no special orders). Gift certificates will continue to be honored > at our Waltham store. > > We apologize for any inconvenience to our Marlborough area customers and > hope that you will visit us in our Waltham store, conveniently located on > Route 128/95 at the Totten Pond Road exit. For directions, please visit our > web site (www.softpro.com/info.html) or call us at 781-487-2220. > yup yup. it's all true. stopped in there tonight. the books are literally flying off the shelves so, do those guys a favor - stop by.. at least buy 2600 mag or something. 10% wlug discount + 25% store closing discount? don't know if that applies. what a bummer man. seriously. that store rocks. anyway... on with life... -jeff

March 11, 2004

Fwd: Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004

by Andy Stewart

-- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 11, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Pete Wason

Keller, Tim wrote: > I'd also like to recommend www.bookpool.com as well, for a couple of > reasons! I recently applied for a job with these folks. Pete

March 10, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Martin, Eric

So, right now I don't get paid to read most of my ORA books, getting paid for it would be great!!!! Although, I am reading "Mastering Regular Expressions" right now on company time...got to get the spam filter working the best possible... -----Original Message----- From: Mike Peckar [mailto:fog@fognet.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:28 PM To: 'Worcester Linux Users Group' Subject: RE: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store... Bummer. ..was in that store last week and the clerk there was so bored he was half way through a book of "Jumbles." I wondered how many unemployed techno-dweebs would jump at the chance to be paid to read ORA books all day (albeit minimum wage). If only. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 10, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Mike Peckar

Bummer. ..was in that store last week and the clerk there was so bored he was half way through a book of "Jumbles." I wondered how many unemployed techno-dweebs would jump at the chance to be paid to read ORA books all day (albeit minimum wage). If only.

March 10, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Keller, Tim

I'd also like to recommend www.bookpool.com as well, for a couple of reasons! Firstly, it's a great bookstore. I purchased an o'reilly book and the book + shipping was less than the price on the back of the book! Secondly, my friend and a fellow WLUGger (Marc Hughes) works for bookpool! Later, Tim. There's nothing wrong with a man that a Playstation 2 and a copy of Vice City can't cure. -- Penny Arcade -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Kinz [mailto:jkinz@kinz.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:25 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store... On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 12:10:44AM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Monday 08 March 2004 11:59 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:42:44PM -0500, Michael Kingsbury wrote: > > > to Softpro once.... cover price gets old. > > > > Don't WLUG members get 10% off? I seem to remember going there and > > having to decide over the WBUR, WGBH, and iirc, WLUG discounts. > > Yes, there is a discount on many items for WLUG members. I'm not sure of the > percentage, but I think its 10%. > > > > > There's just something about walking into a store and seeing every ORA > > book right there. ;) http://www.bookpool.com - all the ORA books, always 25% to 45% off -All the time. Sofpro was nice to have around for emergencies but if you can wait 3-4 days for a book, I always go to bookpool. Cheaper and wider selection. (darned hard to read a few pages before buying tho'... :) ) They are located in vineyard haven. IIRC -- Jeff Kinz, Open-PC, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. "jkinz(a)kinz.org" is copyright 2003. Use is restricted. Any use is an acceptance of the offer at http://www.kinz.org/policy.html. _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 9, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Jeff Kinz

On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 12:10:44AM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Monday 08 March 2004 11:59 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:42:44PM -0500, Michael Kingsbury wrote: > > > to Softpro once.... cover price gets old. > > > > Don't WLUG members get 10% off? I seem to remember going there and > > having to decide over the WBUR, WGBH, and iirc, WLUG discounts. > > Yes, there is a discount on many items for WLUG members. I'm not sure of the > percentage, but I think its 10%. > > > > > There's just something about walking into a store and seeing every ORA > > book right there. ;) http://www.bookpool.com - all the ORA books, always 25% to 45% off -All the time. Sofpro was nice to have around for emergencies but if you can wait 3-4 days for a book, I always go to bookpool. Cheaper and wider selection. (darned hard to read a few pages before buying tho'... :) ) They are located in vineyard haven. IIRC -- Jeff Kinz, Open-PC, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. "jkinz(a)kinz.org" is copyright 2003. Use is restricted. Any use is an acceptance of the offer at http://www.kinz.org/policy.html.

March 9, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Andy Stewart

On Monday 08 March 2004 11:59 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:42:44PM -0500, Michael Kingsbury wrote: > > to Softpro once.... cover price gets old. > > Don't WLUG members get 10% off? I seem to remember going there and > having to decide over the WBUR, WGBH, and iirc, WLUG discounts. Yes, there is a discount on many items for WLUG members. I'm not sure of the percentage, but I think its 10%. > > There's just something about walking into a store and seeing every ORA > book right there. ;) :-) Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 9, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Theo Van Dinter

On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 11:42:44PM -0500, Michael Kingsbury wrote: > to Softpro once.... cover price gets old. Don't WLUG members get 10% off? I seem to remember going there and having to decide over the WBUR, WGBH, and iirc, WLUG discounts. There's just something about walking into a store and seeing every ORA book right there. ;) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Flanders! My socks feel dirty! Gimme some water to wash 'em! -- Homer Simpson Boy-Scoutz n the Hood

March 9, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Michael Kingsbury

On Monday 08 March 2004 10:12 pm, Andy Stewart wrote: > A few months (or more?) ago, the Burlington store closed and they moved it > to Waltham. I had visited the Burlington and Marlboro stores several > times, but I have yet to make it to Waltham. It was some point last fall. I think the Burlington location could not easily compete with B&N a quarter mile down the street and carrying a lot of simliar/same titles for less. If B&N doesn't have a title, usually I'll go online unless I'm in a real hurry for the book, in which case I think I went to Softpro once.... cover price gets old. -mike

March 9, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Andy Stewart

On Monday 08 March 2004 9:45 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 09:15:18PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > > It is with great sadness that we've decided to consolidate our > > operations into our one Waltham store. > > Hey... What happened to the Burlington store? Everytime I drive to > Billerica to visit ye ol' employer's co-lo facility I feel I should > stop off. :( A few months (or more?) ago, the Burlington store closed and they moved it to Waltham. I had visited the Burlington and Marlboro stores several times, but I have yet to make it to Waltham. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 9, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Gregory Boyce

On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 21:15, Andy Stewart wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Marlborough Softpro to Close - Last Day is March 20. > Softpro Books Waltham will Serve as Single Location > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > It is with great sadness that we've decided to consolidate our > operations into our one Waltham store. Ugh. And I just visited it for the first time a month or so ago. I was amazed to find such a great selection 5 minutes away from my house.

March 9, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Theo Van Dinter

On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 09:15:18PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: > It is with great sadness that we've decided to consolidate our > operations into our one Waltham store. Hey... What happened to the Burlington store? Everytime I drive to Billerica to visit ye ol' employer's co-lo facility I feel I should stop off. :( -- Randomly Generated Tagline: `When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows", people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, *for free*".' (By Linus Torvalds)

March 9, 2004

Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by Andy Stewart

>From Softpro - FYI: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marlborough Softpro to Close - Last Day is March 20. Softpro Books Waltham will Serve as Single Location ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It is with great sadness that we've decided to consolidate our operations into our one Waltham store. The economy has taken its toll on our Marlborough location which we opened with great optimism over 4 years ago. Our last day will be Sat., March 20. Between now and then, we're selling all of our Marlboro inventory at 25% off (sorry, no special orders). Gift certificates will continue to be honored at our Waltham store. We apologize for any inconvenience to our Marlborough area customers and hope that you will visit us in our Waltham store, conveniently located on Route 128/95 at the Totten Pond Road exit. For directions, please visit our web site (www.softpro.com/info.html) or call us at 781-487-2220. -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 9, 2004

Re: [Wlug] KDE: Konqueror and fish protocol

by Andy Stewart

On Monday 08 March 2004 12:08 am, brad noyes wrote: > > This is called a KIOSlave. KDE has many KIOSlaves that are available to all > KDE applications. If you are running KDE 3.2, start kinfocenter, about > two-thirds of the way down the list on your left, you'll see 'Protocols', > click that to see all the protocols, or KIOSlaves, available in KDE. > Another one that i use is info:// because i can never remember how to > navigate info pages. > > This is a really cool technology that KDE has had since the 2.0 days. Gnome > has something similar called GnomeVFS, i believe. > > enjoy, > --Brad HI Brad, I didn't know about kinfocenter. Upon seeing that, I suspected that this info was also buried in the KDE Control Center, but I don't see it there (I'm running KDE 3.1.4). After poking around, I see that it is available in the KDE Help Center (khelpcenter). I tried using the fish protocol to access the machine hosting the WLUG website, and it worked just great. I've been looking for this definitive list of the KIOSlaves for some time. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 8, 2004