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Re: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software

by Gary Hanley

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Frank Sweetser wrote: > Plain old talk should work fine. Ha. I still, for the life of me, have not seen the value-added benefit of IM over a good old-fashioned telephone or conference call. Maybe it's there. I just haven't seen it. -- Gary

March 19, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Salvage flashdisk

by Keller, Tim

Yeah, I tried that and the camera comes back with "Card Error". Oh well, I think this card is fubar. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Higgins [mailto:matt@higgsolutions.com] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 11:41 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Salvage flashdisk You could try to format it with your camera. Most cameras have a very simple format utility that will write a new partition table to the disk, and won't try to be smart about it like your pc. Also it my be the case that you have reached the write limit for the flash card. Compact Flash has a fixed write limit before the cells start to go bad. More to the point a given cell can only be switched from a 1 to a 0 n number of times (blank flashes are all 1's not 0's). -Matt Quoting "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com>: > I've got a 32mb flash disk that's gone bad. Ironically it went bad before I > had a chance to pull the pictures off of it. I can't open it with fdisk nor > will doing a dd if=/dev/sda of=image_of_flash_disk will work. > > Anybody got any good ideas or know of utilities that might be capable of > salvaging the data? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 19, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Salvage flashdisk

by Matt Higgins

You could try to format it with your camera. Most cameras have a very simple format utility that will write a new partition table to the disk, and won't try to be smart about it like your pc. Also it my be the case that you have reached the write limit for the flash card. Compact Flash has a fixed write limit before the cells start to go bad. More to the point a given cell can only be switched from a 1 to a 0 n number of times (blank flashes are all 1's not 0's). -Matt Quoting "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com>: > I've got a 32mb flash disk that's gone bad. Ironically it went bad before I > had a chance to pull the pictures off of it. I can't open it with fdisk nor > will doing a dd if=/dev/sda of=image_of_flash_disk will work. > > Anybody got any good ideas or know of utilities that might be capable of > salvaging the data? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 19, 2004

Salvage flashdisk

by Keller, Tim

I've got a 32mb flash disk that's gone bad. Ironically it went bad before I had a chance to pull the pictures off of it. I can't open it with fdisk nor will doing a dd if=/dev/sda of=image_of_flash_disk will work. Anybody got any good ideas or know of utilities that might be capable of salvaging the data? Thanks, Tim.

March 19, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: SM> I work at a large company in Natick that has recently decided to disallow SM> instant messaging clients from being used on corporate PC's. They sight a SM> concern that it is an insecure network link to the outside world that could SM> allow hackers, worms, trojans, viruses, etc ... into the otherwise protected SM> network. Whether I agree with this opinion or not I guess is irrelevant as I SM> don't have a strong enough voice to change anything. What does affect my SM> team is the ability to easily communicate with each other on a "live" or SM> instant platform within the company firewall (we have no interest really to SM> communicate outside the firewall yet). I was wondering if anyone could point Not quite what you're looking for, but... There are some Java/web clients of various messenger software available, which may go around the firewall (use web ports), that you may want to try: Yahoo's Web Messenger: http://messenger.yahoo.com/#webmessenger AIM Express: http://www.aim.com/get_aim/express/aim_expr.adp good luck! (I hope they've fixed the java a bit in the last year or two. The last time I used them they were real memory hogs on the slow machine I had at work (but they did get around the firewall)...) -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/

March 19, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software

by Baris Hasdemir

I did not try to implement but I guess you are looking for Jabber. You can install a jabber server(http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/) and use whatever client(linux, mac, win) you want with it. baris On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 10:57, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > Hey guys, > > I work at a large company in Natick that has recently decided to > disallow instant messaging clients from being used on corporate PC's. > They sight a concern that it is an insecure network link to the > outside world that could allow hackers, worms, trojans, viruses, etc > ... into the otherwise protected network. Whether I agree with this > opinion or not I guess is irrelevant as I don't have a strong enough > voice to change anything. What does affect my team is the ability to > easily communicate with each other on a "live" or instant platform > within the company firewall (we have no interest really to communicate > outside the firewall yet). I was wondering if anyone could point me in > the direction of an Open Source alternative to an instant messaging > platform? For starters I'm just looking for software to run on a > server (either Linux or Doze) and the associated clients to use on > primarily XP or 2000 desktops. > > I'm doing some research on Source Forge and other sites to see if I > can find something myself, but would prefer a suggestion from someone > who's already implemented something like this. >

March 19, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software

by Frank Sweetser

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:57:10AM -0500, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > I'm doing some research on Source Forge and other sites to see if I can find > something myself, but would prefer a suggestion from someone who's already > implemented something like this. Plain old talk should work fine. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC

March 19, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software

by Martin, Eric

jabber server is the best I've heard of. Gaim supports the client. www.jabber.org -----Original Message----- From: Simoncini, Matthew [mailto:Matthew.Simoncini@bsci.com] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 10:57 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software Hey guys, I work at a large company in Natick that has recently decided to disallow instant messaging clients from being used on corporate PC's. They sight a concern that it is an insecure network link to the outside world that could allow hackers, worms, trojans, viruses, etc ... into the otherwise protected network. Whether I agree with this opinion or not I guess is irrelevant as I don't have a strong enough voice to change anything. What does affect my team is the ability to easily communicate with each other on a "live" or instant platform within the company firewall (we have no interest really to communicate outside the firewall yet). I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of an Open Source alternative to an instant messaging platform? For starters I'm just looking for software to run on a server (either Linux or Doze) and the associated clients to use on primarily XP or 2000 desktops. I'm doing some research on Source Forge and other sites to see if I can find something myself, but would prefer a suggestion from someone who's already implemented something like this. Thanks in advance. Matthew

March 19, 2004

Instant Messaging Software

by Simoncini, Matthew

Hey guys, I work at a large company in Natick that has recently decided to disallow instant messaging clients from being used on corporate PC's. They sight a concern that it is an insecure network link to the outside world that could allow hackers, worms, trojans, viruses, etc ... into the otherwise protected network. Whether I agree with this opinion or not I guess is irrelevant as I don't have a strong enough voice to change anything. What does affect my team is the ability to easily communicate with each other on a "live" or instant platform within the company firewall (we have no interest really to communicate outside the firewall yet). I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of an Open Source alternative to an instant messaging platform? For starters I'm just looking for software to run on a server (either Linux or Doze) and the associated clients to use on primarily XP or 2000 desktops. I'm doing some research on Source Forge and other sites to see if I can find something myself, but would prefer a suggestion from someone who's already implemented something like this. Thanks in advance. Matthew

March 19, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software

by matthew＠schnee.com

Hi, One thing you can check out is a project from RPI called lily http://www.freegroups.org/lily-twiki/bin/view/Lily/ and http://www.lily.org/ There is information about how to set up your own server and there are clients for a ton of platforms. Matthew Schnee ------------------- Email sent using AnyEmail

March 19, 2004

ACM Installfest has been moved...

by Ryan Caron

Due to conflicting events on campus, we have moved the date of the Installfest. It is now scheduled for April 4th from 3 to 7PM. It will be in Higgins Lab 116. Please email acm(a)wpi.edu if you have any questions or are able to attend for even a portion of the event. Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary

March 17, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Network configuration with OpenLDAP

by Matt Higgins

Here are some places to start, http://www.wlug.org.nz/HowtoSamba3AndActiveDirectory?version=1 http://www.padl.com/Contents/OpenSourceSoftware.html -Matt Quoting Michael Long <mlong(a)datalong.com>: > Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > >What services do you need? > > > >linux shell logins? > > > > > > > Yes > > >samba logins? > > > > > Yes > > >imap/pop logins? > > > > > Yes, > > As Chuck pointed out earlier this is not a simple task. Since I have > never managed a multiuser *nix evironment I believe the best thing for > me to do is follow the KISS principle and attack the problem one piece > at a time. > > The first step is to setup a robust multiuser environment that allows > clients to authenticate onto the network via linux shells. These users > will initially login either at the console or remotely via SSH. Ideally > a VPN will be eventually be added to the mix. The next step will be to > setup samba to allow clients to authenticate onto the network via > windows. Finally setup ldap and migrate the authentication services to it. > > > > >I was also looking into this at my work. I setup a ldap server, I'm > >using it now for an address book, but i have not setup any logins yet. > > > >>From my reading, i understand you need to configure each server (samba, > >imap, etc) to auth to the ldap. > > > > > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>My goal is to set up a small business network that will have both linux > >>and windows > >>clients. I would like to use OpenLDAP for my authentication services. The > >>problem > >>is that I have never done anything like this and don't know where to > >>start. I have > >>read the docs at openldap.org, LDAP-HOWTO, LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO, > >>http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html and am > >>not sure > >>where to start. I would like to start by building the services that will > >>allow me > >>to authenticate users and configure file shares that they have access to. > >>Which > >>service(s) should I start with PAM, LDAP, other? > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Mike > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Wlug mailing list > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 17, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Network configuration with OpenLDAP

by Michael Long

Karl Hiramoto wrote: >What services do you need? > >linux shell logins? > > > Yes >samba logins? > > Yes >imap/pop logins? > > Yes, As Chuck pointed out earlier this is not a simple task. Since I have never managed a multiuser *nix evironment I believe the best thing for me to do is follow the KISS principle and attack the problem one piece at a time. The first step is to setup a robust multiuser environment that allows clients to authenticate onto the network via linux shells. These users will initially login either at the console or remotely via SSH. Ideally a VPN will be eventually be added to the mix. The next step will be to setup samba to allow clients to authenticate onto the network via windows. Finally setup ldap and migrate the authentication services to it. >I was also looking into this at my work. I setup a ldap server, I'm >using it now for an address book, but i have not setup any logins yet. > >>From my reading, i understand you need to configure each server (samba, >imap, etc) to auth to the ldap. > > > > >>Hi, >> >>My goal is to set up a small business network that will have both linux >>and windows >>clients. I would like to use OpenLDAP for my authentication services. The >>problem >>is that I have never done anything like this and don't know where to >>start. I have >>read the docs at openldap.org, LDAP-HOWTO, LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO, >>http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html and am >>not sure >>where to start. I would like to start by building the services that will >>allow me >>to authenticate users and configure file shares that they have access to. >>Which >>service(s) should I start with PAM, LDAP, other? >> >>Thanks, >>Mike >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> > > >

March 17, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Network configuration with OpenLDAP

by Charles R. Anderson

On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 05:46:06PM -0500, Michael Long wrote: > Hi, > > My goal is to set up a small business network that will have both linux and windows > clients. I would like to use OpenLDAP for my authentication services. The problem > is that I have never done anything like this and don't know where to start. I have > read the docs at openldap.org, LDAP-HOWTO, LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO, > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html and am not sure > where to start. I would like to start by building the services that will allow me > to authenticate users and configure file shares that they have access to. Which > service(s) should I start with PAM, LDAP, other? This isn't going to be easy. Here are a few pointers I found on Google: http://www.bayour.com/LDAPv3-HOWTO.html http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2003-November/002398.html http://www.nyetwork.org/fvlug/Fvlug_Samba3.ppt

March 16, 2004

Network configuration with OpenLDAP

by Michael Long

Hi, My goal is to set up a small business network that will have both linux and windows clients. I would like to use OpenLDAP for my authentication services. The problem is that I have never done anything like this and don't know where to start. I have read the docs at openldap.org, LDAP-HOWTO, LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO, http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html and am not sure where to start. I would like to start by building the services that will allow me to authenticate users and configure file shares that they have access to. Which service(s) should I start with PAM, LDAP, other? Thanks, Mike

March 16, 2004

Fwd: consulting assistance

by Andy Stewart

If anybody has any interest in this opportunity, please contact Ralph Fasano directly at rfasano(a)risd.edu. -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 16, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Open source = security

by Michael Long

Thanks to everyone who replied. I am now able to explain the benefits of open source much more clearly. I have since had a very interesting followup conversation with the architect and I believe he may be starting to understand the benefit of open source. Mike

March 12, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Open source = security

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 11:09:37AM -0500, Michael Long wrote: > guess it is not. I was wondering how others would answer this question? I was working at RSA Security for a while, and my manager gave me the same sort of line: We make security products here, you definitely don't want that open source! <some other reference about open source being less secure> My response was along the lines of: Actually, that's _exactly_ the software I would want open source. Security through obscurity (which is what most non-open source relies on) doesn't work. He wasn't happy. <G> Anyway, yeah, "real" security people want as many people looking at their code/algorithm/etc as possible to make sure it's secure in and of itself. There's reasons that things like MD5, SHA1, AES, etc, all went through a rigorous review process before they're made a "standard". -- Randomly Generated Tagline: s Blind, Lingerie makes Great Braille!

March 12, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Open source = security

by orbitz＠ezabel.com

The security of an application is not hidden in a trick in the code but the algorithm it is using. Being able to see the code (assuming it were bug free) should never reveal a bug in the security framework. Obfuscation is not security. On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:09:37 -0500 (EST) "Michael Long" <mlong(a)datalong.com> wrote: > Hi, > > During a discussion with an application architect, while trouble shooting SQL > Servers "security" behavior, he asked how an application can be more secure > when anyone can view the security related code. I thought this was self > evident, but I guess it is not. I was wondering how others would answer this > question? > > Thanks, > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 12, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Open source = security

by Scott Venier

It's all about auditing. The more people who can look at the code can find AND FIX any bugs. And the bugs do get fixed. For historical evidence of that look at how quickly the Linux kernel was fixed when the "teardrop" bug was revealed. It took Windows much longer to release a patch. There are probably more recent examples, but that's the first one that comes to mind that effected both open and closed source software. This is the excat same reason that professional software developers have code reviews. Many eyes make all problems simple. Scott Michael Long said: > Hi, > > During a discussion with an application architect, while trouble shooting > SQL > Servers "security" behavior, he asked how an application can be more > secure when > anyone can view the security related code. I thought this was self > evident, but I > guess it is not. I was wondering how others would answer this question? > > Thanks, > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 12, 2004

Open source = security

by Michael Long

Hi, During a discussion with an application architect, while trouble shooting SQL Servers "security" behavior, he asked how an application can be more secure when anyone can view the security related code. I thought this was self evident, but I guess it is not. I was wondering how others would answer this question? Thanks, Mike

March 12, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Fwd: Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004

by Martin, Eric

Gentoo has a live cd for mac, although it's not gui based...also there's a bit of config for oldworld macs... -----Original Message----- From: doug waud [mailto:douglas.waud@umassmed.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:59 AM To: andystewart(a)comcast.net; Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Fwd: Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004 Hi all Andy Stewart wrote: > Subject: > Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004 snip,snip > We will be handing out printed materials and CDs with good > quality FOSS, like TheOpenCD and Knoppix. ..... > Our role will be to help coordinate the event and > provide ..... > high quality (pressed) CDs that local > teams can give out to the general public on Software Freedom Day. Andy, at our meetings, you have asked what we might do with our accumulated $. This FOSS initiative makes me wonder whether making a lot of Knoppix discs which we could all carry around and hand out when queried about Linux, might be a good use of our resources. It would strike me as being right on target with our objective of proselytizing. I, for one, continually run into people curious about Linux and free software in general. If I could hand them a Knoppix disk and say "Here, see for yourself!" I think I would get good bang for buck. In particular the term "free" would sink in well. Any thoughts? doug PS A lot of non Linux users use MACS. Does Knoppix work there/is there a MAC Knoppix alternative? It would be a shame to miss this constituency; MAC users may be human too! :-) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 11, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Fwd: Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004

by doug waud

Hi all Andy Stewart wrote: > Subject: > Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004 snip,snip > We will be handing out printed materials and CDs with good > quality FOSS, like TheOpenCD and Knoppix. ..... > Our role will be to help coordinate the event and > provide ..... > high quality (pressed) CDs that local > teams can give out to the general public on Software Freedom Day. Andy, at our meetings, you have asked what we might do with our accumulated $. This FOSS initiative makes me wonder whether making a lot of Knoppix discs which we could all carry around and hand out when queried about Linux, might be a good use of our resources. It would strike me as being right on target with our objective of proselytizing. I, for one, continually run into people curious about Linux and free software in general. If I could hand them a Knoppix disk and say "Here, see for yourself!" I think I would get good bang for buck. In particular the term "free" would sink in well. Any thoughts? doug PS A lot of non Linux users use MACS. Does Knoppix work there/is there a MAC Knoppix alternative? It would be a shame to miss this constituency; MAC users may be human too! :-)

March 11, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Softpro to close Marlboro, MA store...

by jeff

Andy Stewart wrote: >>From Softpro - FYI: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Marlborough Softpro to Close - Last Day is March 20. > Softpro Books Waltham will Serve as Single Location > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > It is with great sadness that we've decided to consolidate our > operations into our one Waltham store. > > The economy has taken its toll on our Marlborough location which we opened > with great optimism over 4 years ago. Our last day will be Sat., March 20. > Between now and then, we're selling all of our Marlboro inventory at 25% off > (sorry, no special orders). Gift certificates will continue to be honored > at our Waltham store. > > We apologize for any inconvenience to our Marlborough area customers and > hope that you will visit us in our Waltham store, conveniently located on > Route 128/95 at the Totten Pond Road exit. For directions, please visit our > web site (www.softpro.com/info.html) or call us at 781-487-2220. > yup yup. it's all true. stopped in there tonight. the books are literally flying off the shelves so, do those guys a favor - stop by.. at least buy 2600 mag or something. 10% wlug discount + 25% store closing discount? don't know if that applies. what a bummer man. seriously. that store rocks. anyway... on with life... -jeff

March 11, 2004

Fwd: Software Freedom Day: August 28, 2004

by Andy Stewart

-- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

March 11, 2004