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Re: [Wlug] System won't shutdown

by Dwight Ernest

Michael Long wrote: > Hi, > > I have a computer with SuSE 9.0 installed. When I run shutdown -h now it > starts the shutdown process but then hangs immediately after > > running /etc/init.d/halt.local2 done > > I can hit the carriage return and am left at the console with the system > running. The relevant part of ps x at this point is. > > 296822 ? S 0:00 2 /bin/bash /etc/init.d/rc 0 > 296899 ? S 0:00 2 /bin/2sh /etc/init.d/rc0.d/S20halt start > > What could be preventing this machine from shutting down? > > Thanks, > Mike It's hung trying to run something in the /etc/init.d/halt script. Can you (1) c&p that script into an email and show it to me or to the list? (2) show the rest of the ps, as it should show some hint to what it might be hung on? -- Dwight A. Ernest, dwight at significant dot com GPG key A6999567 Cell: +1-508-523-1416 FAX: +1-978-405-2504 YIM: dwight_ernest RHCE #803004293310030 http://significant.com/~dwight/ KA2CNN Papa, partner, pilot, net geek, sysadmin, consultant, cohouser.

May 11, 2004

Need topic for May meeting

by Andy Stewart

HI all, Well, I'm trolling for a topic for this meeting, and I'm sure that as always, we'll come up with something. Along the lines of my previous email, are there any "serious" web developers out there who would care to show us how they do it with Linux ? If not, are there volunteers in the audience who'd like to address WLUG on some topic? The floor is open..... Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 10, 2004

windows BSOD

by Karl Hiramoto

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May 10, 2004

Re: [Wlug] block devices

by Charles R. Anderson

On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 10:48:20PM -0400, gma2004(a)verizon.net wrote: > How do I create a block device? Specifically, how do I re-create > /dev/fd0 after I accidentally obliterated it? (hint: don't use the > -u option with shred when the target is a device.) Try using MAKEDEV: /dev/MAKEDEV fd0

May 9, 2004

block devices

by gma2004＠verizon.net

How do I create a block device? Specifically, how do I re-create /dev/fd0 after I accidentally obliterated it? (hint: don't use the -u option with shred when the target is a device.) Thanks, Greg Avedissian

May 9, 2004

System won't shutdown

by Michael Long

Hi, I have a computer with SuSE 9.0 installed. When I run shutdown -h now it starts the shutdown process but then hangs immediately after running /etc/init.d/halt.local2 done I can hit the carriage return and am left at the console with the system running. The relevant part of ps x at this point is. 296822 ? S 0:00 2 /bin/bash /etc/init.d/rc 0 296899 ? S 0:00 2 /bin/2sh /etc/init.d/rc0.d/S20halt start What could be preventing this machine from shutting down? Thanks, Mike

May 8, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Creating web content with Linux

by Donald Vitkus

Chris Aniszczyk wrote: >>The questions are: What tools are available on Linux for creating web >>content? Is there something akin to FrontPage for Linux? >> >> > >I'd say vim, but people would call me a masochist. > >There's Quanta which is KDE-based which is pretty good. Has snazzy GUI table creators and other stuff people might like. > >If you use gentoo, it's just an "emerge quanta" away ;) > >Cheers, > > > try openoffice or staroffice. there is also a program call bluefish which is a nice html edior

May 8, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Creating web content with Linux

by Bill Smith

On Wed, 5 May 2004 18:40:15 +0000 Chris Aniszczyk <zx(a)gentoo.org> wrote: > > The questions are: What tools are available on Linux for creating web > > content? Is there something akin to FrontPage for Linux? > > I'd say vim, but people would call me a masochist. no arguements from ME... that's pretty-much what -I- use... ...of course, my web pages aren't all that complicated, either. <shrug> -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA

May 5, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Creating web content with Linux

by Frank Rizzo

Anjuta does a good job with html/php. I like to keep a connection to mysql open in the bottom terminal window too. Works for me.

May 5, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Creating web content with Linux

by JONATHAN BEALL

i have to agree, the closest to dreamweaver is nothing... but next best would be mozilla, coffeecup, bluefish, or even emacs. -Jonathan >From: Baris Hasdemir <penguen(a)hasdemir.com> >Reply-To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Creating web content with Linux >Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 14:58:52 -0400 > >As far as I know the application closest to Dreamweaver/FPage in kin >might be the Mozilla editor as a WYSIWYG editor. Other than that there >is also an html editor called bluefish for the gnome-looking world. and >it is "apt-get install bluefish" away :) > >baris > >On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 14:40, Chris Aniszczyk wrote: > > > The questions are: What tools are available on Linux for creating web > > > content? Is there something akin to FrontPage for Linux? > > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

May 5, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Creating web content with Linux

by Baris Hasdemir

As far as I know the application closest to Dreamweaver/FPage in kin might be the Mozilla editor as a WYSIWYG editor. Other than that there is also an html editor called bluefish for the gnome-looking world. and it is "apt-get install bluefish" away :) baris On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 14:40, Chris Aniszczyk wrote: > > The questions are: What tools are available on Linux for creating web > > content? Is there something akin to FrontPage for Linux?

May 5, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Creating web content with Linux

by Chris Aniszczyk

> The questions are: What tools are available on Linux for creating web > content? Is there something akin to FrontPage for Linux? I'd say vim, but people would call me a masochist. There's Quanta which is KDE-based which is pretty good. Has snazzy GUI table creators and other stuff people might like. If you use gentoo, it's just an "emerge quanta" away ;) Cheers, -- Chris Aniszczyk Gentoo Developer - http://www.gentoo.org - http://cia.navi.cx/stats/author/zx http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x274A275F

May 5, 2004

Creating web content with Linux

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, I gave my "Introduction to Linux" presentation to a group of Internet professionals in Hopkinton last night (http://www.ip495.org) I was asked a question which I could not definitively answer since I am not a creator of web pages. The questions are: What tools are available on Linux for creating web content? Is there something akin to FrontPage for Linux? Sure, for simple HTML, any text editor will do. I've even used OpenOffice, but it feels crude to me (maybe I just don't know how to use it properly). GIMP could be used to create still images. Beyond that, I'm lost. Do I smell a topic for an upcoming meeting ? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 5, 2004

Snort.

by aramico＠duahati.com

Friends, Can you tell me to sniff detail informatstion using snort in linux in order to get sent and received information through my gateway. I have a firewall with snort installed, can I get details informations sent/received by my users where they are usig MSN Messanger, Yahoo Messanger, webmail, Outlook, etc ? Things I've done, just make a background precess and write it into file with snort, but the result is not so complettely as I need. How Can I sniff it so I can get detail information sent/received ? Thanks. Aramico

April 29, 2004

Re: [Wlug] traceroute troubles

by gma2004＠verizon.net

I went to tucows and got a program called mtr that does it. Easy. Thanks. Greg Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 01:30:24PM -0400, gma2004(a)verizon.net wrote: > >>Update - tracert works on the XP box, so the problem appears to be >>specific for linux with the dsl modem only (works on non-verizon dialup >>account). > > > Windows tracert always uses ICMP packets. I guess you'll need to > upgrade to a better traceroute :( > > >>-p port >>Specifies the UDP destination port base traceroute will use. When >>sending its UDP probe packets, it will send them to port + hop - 1 for >>each hop. If there are ports in this range in use on the destination >>host, traceroute will not be able to identify reliably when it has >>reached the destination host (probes will appear to time out). The >>default port is 33434; you can use -p to change this to a different value. > > > You might be able to play with different port number options to see if > those get through... > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

April 28, 2004

Re: [Wlug] traceroute troubles

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 01:30:24PM -0400, gma2004(a)verizon.net wrote: > Update - tracert works on the XP box, so the problem appears to be > specific for linux with the dsl modem only (works on non-verizon dialup > account). Windows tracert always uses ICMP packets. I guess you'll need to upgrade to a better traceroute :( > -p port > Specifies the UDP destination port base traceroute will use. When > sending its UDP probe packets, it will send them to port + hop - 1 for > each hop. If there are ports in this range in use on the destination > host, traceroute will not be able to identify reliably when it has > reached the destination host (probes will appear to time out). The > default port is 33434; you can use -p to change this to a different value. You might be able to play with different port number options to see if those get through...

April 28, 2004

Re: [Wlug] traceroute troubles

by gma2004＠verizon.net

Charles, Traceroute options are copied below. Please let me know if you see anything that looks useful. Update - tracert works on the XP box, so the problem appears to be specific for linux with the dsl modem only (works on non-verizon dialup account). Greg Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 11:01:23AM -0400, gma2004(a)verizon.net wrote: > >>Thanks, but that didn't work. The google example gave me an error >>message (i.e. the help screen). traceroute -I requires an interface for >>an argumnt, the only choice I have is eth0, and that gives the same >>output as with no option. I messed around with some other options and >>had no luck (-g, -r, -t, -4, -6). Using tracroute 0.6.2, SuSE 8.2. > > > What does your manual page say for traceroute? > > man traceroute > > Mine (Red Hat 9) says -I is for ICMP, -i is for interface. > -6, -4 Explicitly force IPv4 or IPv6 traceouting. By default, the program will try to resolve the name given, and choose the appropriate protocol automatically. If resolving a host name returns both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses, traceroute will use IPv4. Invoking the program as traceroute6 is the same as using the -6 option. -F Set the "Don't Fragment" bit. This tells intermediate routers not to fragment the packet when they find it's too big for a network hop's MTU. -f first_ttl Specifies with what TTL to start. Defaults to 1. -g gateway Tells traceroute to add an IP source routing option to the outgoing packet that tells the network to route the packet through the specified gateway. Not very useful, because most routers have disabled source routing for security reasons. -I interface Specifies the interface through which to traceroute should send packets. By default, the interface is selected according to the routing table. -m max_hops Specifies the maximum number of hops traceroute will probe. The default value is 30. -N concurrent_hops Specifies the number of probe packets sent out simultaneously. Sending several probes concurrently can speed up traceroute considerably. However, when specifying a number that's too large, the destination host will start to throw away random ICMP responses (if it implements ICMP rate throttling), and traceroute will be unable to detect the final hope reliably. The default value is 6. -n Do not try to map IP addresses to host names when displaying them. -p port Specifies the UDP destination port base traceroute will use. When sending its UDP probe packets, it will send them to port + hop - 1 for each hop. If there are ports in this range in use on the destination host, traceroute will not be able to identify reliably when it has reached the destination host (probes will appear to time out). The default port is 33434; you can use -p to change this to a different value. -t tos Set the IP Type of Service (TOS) and Precedence value. Useful values are 16 (low delay) and 8 (high throughput). Note that in order to use some TOS precendence values, you have to be super user. -w sec Wait for sec seconds before sending the next probe packet. Note that unlike older traceroute versions, this implementation will transmit several probe packets in parallel, for different hop values. However, it will never send more than 1 packet per hop value at the same time. -q numqueries Sets the number of probe packets per hop. The default value is 3. -r Bypass the normal routing tables and send directly to a host on an attached network. If the host is not on a directly-attached network, an error is returned. This option can be used to ping a local host through an interface that has no route through it. -R Set the loose source route option on outgoing packets, asking intermediate routers to record their address as the packet passes. This can be useful if you want to find the address of an intermediate router that has been configured to not respond to traceroute packets. This feature hasn't been implemented yet. -S source_addr Chooses an alternative source address. Note that you must select the address of one of the interfaces. By default, the address of the outgoing interface is used. -V Print the version and exit.

April 28, 2004

Re: [Wlug] traceroute troubles

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 11:01:23AM -0400, gma2004(a)verizon.net wrote: > Thanks, but that didn't work. The google example gave me an error > message (i.e. the help screen). traceroute -I requires an interface for > an argumnt, the only choice I have is eth0, and that gives the same > output as with no option. I messed around with some other options and > had no luck (-g, -r, -t, -4, -6). Using tracroute 0.6.2, SuSE 8.2. What does your manual page say for traceroute? man traceroute Mine (Red Hat 9) says -I is for ICMP, -i is for interface.

April 28, 2004

Re: [Wlug] traceroute troubles

by gma2004＠verizon.net

Thanks, but that didn't work. The google example gave me an error message (i.e. the help screen). traceroute -I requires an interface for an argumnt, the only choice I have is eth0, and that gives the same output as with no option. I messed around with some other options and had no luck (-g, -r, -t, -4, -6). Using tracroute 0.6.2, SuSE 8.2. Greg James Baldassari wrote: > Hi Greg. I have a similar situation at home. When I need to do a > traceroute I use the -I switch (e.g. traceroute -I www.google.com) which > uses ICMP echos instead of UDP datagrams. I believe that ping uses ICMP > requests by default, which may explain why you can ping outside your > network. Hope this helps. > > -James Baldassari > > > >>I'm having trouble getting traceroutes to go out with my slick new dsl >>connection. The modem has a router built into it, and even with its >>internal firewall turned off, the only output I get from a traceroute is >>the router'r IP number and times, followed by 29 lines of stars. >> >>I tried shutting down the network and using my dialup account, and >>traceroute works fine. I know it's not the firewall on my machine, >>because it makes no difference if it's on or off with the dsl, and >>traceroute works on the dialup with the firewall running. (Yes, I did >>remember to change the default path in the firewall config from eth0 to >>ppp0) >> >>Any ideas? Is this likely to be something built into the dsl modem, or >>something with Verizon? Or might I have something screwed up in my >>network setup? I can ping my other computers and I can ping out to the >>internet ok. >> >>Thanks, >>Greg Avedissian >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

April 28, 2004

Re: [Wlug] traceroute troubles

by James Baldassari

Hi Greg. I have a similar situation at home. When I need to do a traceroute I use the -I switch (e.g. traceroute -I www.google.com) which uses ICMP echos instead of UDP datagrams. I believe that ping uses ICMP requests by default, which may explain why you can ping outside your network. Hope this helps. -James Baldassari > I'm having trouble getting traceroutes to go out with my slick new dsl > connection. The modem has a router built into it, and even with its > internal firewall turned off, the only output I get from a traceroute is > the router'r IP number and times, followed by 29 lines of stars. > > I tried shutting down the network and using my dialup account, and > traceroute works fine. I know it's not the firewall on my machine, > because it makes no difference if it's on or off with the dsl, and > traceroute works on the dialup with the firewall running. (Yes, I did > remember to change the default path in the firewall config from eth0 to > ppp0) > > Any ideas? Is this likely to be something built into the dsl modem, or > something with Verizon? Or might I have something screwed up in my > network setup? I can ping my other computers and I can ping out to the > internet ok. > > Thanks, > Greg Avedissian > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

April 28, 2004

traceroute troubles

by gma2004＠verizon.net

I'm having trouble getting traceroutes to go out with my slick new dsl connection. The modem has a router built into it, and even with its internal firewall turned off, the only output I get from a traceroute is the router'r IP number and times, followed by 29 lines of stars. I tried shutting down the network and using my dialup account, and traceroute works fine. I know it's not the firewall on my machine, because it makes no difference if it's on or off with the dsl, and traceroute works on the dialup with the firewall running. (Yes, I did remember to change the default path in the firewall config from eth0 to ppp0) Any ideas? Is this likely to be something built into the dsl modem, or something with Verizon? Or might I have something screwed up in my network setup? I can ping my other computers and I can ping out to the internet ok. Thanks, Greg Avedissian

April 28, 2004

Re: [Wlug] ssh known_hosts

by Bill Mills-Curran

Frank, 10.14.36.204 is the server IP. BTW, it gives that message even though I use the hostname on the ssh command line. I ran ssh -v, and found the problem... I needed to modify known_hosts2, not known_hosts. Silly mistake on my part, although the documentation does not mention known_hosts2 Thanks for the push in the right direction. Bill On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 10:53:24AM -0400, frank p wrote: > > Is '10.14.36.204' your client or your server? > First reaction is that you should just replace the old ip with the new one > in the known_hosts file, though maybe it's no that simple. > It could be that either your client doesn't want to connect to a server it > doesn't know about, or your server doesn't want to accept connections from > a client it doesn't know about. It could be changes needed in your > ~/.ssh/known_hosts on the client or /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts on the > server. > Can you be a little more explicit about exactly what you are trying to do? > Maybe include output from doing a 'ssh -v <host/ip>'... > > np, > -poz > > > On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > > > I'm having a problem with known (or unknown!) hosts since changing the > > IP address on a server. > > > > Server info: > > Redhat 8.0 > > ssh -V: OpenSSH_3.4p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090602f > > > > Client info: > > Redhat 9 > > ssh -V: OpenSSH_3.5p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090701f > > > > When logging into the server, I'm getting the following message: > > > > RSA host key for IP address '10.14.36.204' not in list of known hosts. > > > > I've played around with ~/.ssh/known_hosts (even renaming it), but I > > still get the message. Looking at the documentation for the > > known_hosts file format (in sshd man page), my current known_hosts > > file, looks quite a bit different (many fields are omitted). > > > > Why do I get the message, and how do I get rid of it? > > > > TIA, > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 27, 2004

Re: [Wlug] ssh known_hosts

by frank p

Is '10.14.36.204' your client or your server? First reaction is that you should just replace the old ip with the new one in the known_hosts file, though maybe it's no that simple. It could be that either your client doesn't want to connect to a server it doesn't know about, or your server doesn't want to accept connections from a client it doesn't know about. It could be changes needed in your ~/.ssh/known_hosts on the client or /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts on the server. Can you be a little more explicit about exactly what you are trying to do? Maybe include output from doing a 'ssh -v <host/ip>'... np, -poz On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > I'm having a problem with known (or unknown!) hosts since changing the > IP address on a server. > > Server info: > Redhat 8.0 > ssh -V: OpenSSH_3.4p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090602f > > Client info: > Redhat 9 > ssh -V: OpenSSH_3.5p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090701f > > When logging into the server, I'm getting the following message: > > RSA host key for IP address '10.14.36.204' not in list of known hosts. > > I've played around with ~/.ssh/known_hosts (even renaming it), but I > still get the message. Looking at the documentation for the > known_hosts file format (in sshd man page), my current known_hosts > file, looks quite a bit different (many fields are omitted). > > Why do I get the message, and how do I get rid of it? > > TIA, > Bill

April 27, 2004

ssh known_hosts

by Bill Mills-Curran

I'm having a problem with known (or unknown!) hosts since changing the IP address on a server. Server info: Redhat 8.0 ssh -V: OpenSSH_3.4p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090602f Client info: Redhat 9 ssh -V: OpenSSH_3.5p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090701f When logging into the server, I'm getting the following message: RSA host key for IP address '10.14.36.204' not in list of known hosts. I've played around with ~/.ssh/known_hosts (even renaming it), but I still get the message. Looking at the documentation for the known_hosts file format (in sshd man page), my current known_hosts file, looks quite a bit different (many fields are omitted). Why do I get the message, and how do I get rid of it? TIA, Bill

April 27, 2004

Re: [Wlug] test

by gma2004＠verizon.net

Bill Smith wrote: > > > What were you testing? > New email address. Wanted to make sure I was still here and see who it said I was. Greg

April 26, 2004