- WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] any ideas?

by John Stoffel

brad> Our school uses commercial library automation software. We would brad> like to convert the database to open source. Anyone have brad> experience doing so? My wife works at a library which has been working on switching from one DB and vendor to another for their data. It's not easy in general, though if you can get the old DB to export data in a known and stardard format (such as MARC, see another reply to this thread for details) then you're closer. You should also take a look at the Koha open source library software. It includes all the various modules you need to run a library. http://www.koha.org Also, it's not clear what you're really trying to do here. Are you trying to move from Oracle to MySQL (for example), while keeping the same commercial library automation software? Or are you looking to replace the entire software stack you're using? John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-952-7548

June 4, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question

by Webmaster＠atari-users.net

Thanks for the replies guys, I had changed the file to '777' but it was still giving the permission denied. I'll check the postgres user. Rob Mahlert >-----Original Message----- >From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org]On >Behalf Of Michael Long >Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 8:47 AM >To: Worcester Linux Users Group >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question > > >It also may have permissions set to require it to be run by the >"postgres" user. > >Jeff Moyer wrote: > >>==> Regarding [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question; >"Webmaster(a)atari-users.net" <webmaster(a)atari-users.net> adds: >> >>Webmaster> Hello, I'm working on installing Gforge(.org) on a server >>Webmaster> running Debian. I'm using "apt-get install gforge" using the >>Webmaster> packages on gforge.free.fr. >> >>Webmaster> I cannot get Postgresql to start. I tested it on my local >>Webmaster> machine and never ran into this problem. Any ideas would be >>Webmaster> great. (ok.. maybe I should try the Worcester Coop course! <G>) >> >>Webmaster> I get this message when I try to start it as root "bash: >>Webmaster> /etc/init.d/postgresql: Permission denied" >> >>Is that file executable? >> >>-Jeff >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 4, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question

by Michael Long

It also may have permissions set to require it to be run by the "postgres" user. Jeff Moyer wrote: >==> Regarding [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question; "Webmaster(a)atari-users.net" <webmaster(a)atari-users.net> adds: > >Webmaster> Hello, I'm working on installing Gforge(.org) on a server >Webmaster> running Debian. I'm using "apt-get install gforge" using the >Webmaster> packages on gforge.free.fr. > >Webmaster> I cannot get Postgresql to start. I tested it on my local >Webmaster> machine and never ran into this problem. Any ideas would be >Webmaster> great. (ok.. maybe I should try the Worcester Coop course! <G>) > >Webmaster> I get this message when I try to start it as root "bash: >Webmaster> /etc/init.d/postgresql: Permission denied" > >Is that file executable? > >-Jeff > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

June 4, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question; "Webmaster(a)atari-users.net" <webmaster(a)atari-users.net> adds: Webmaster> Hello, I'm working on installing Gforge(.org) on a server Webmaster> running Debian. I'm using "apt-get install gforge" using the Webmaster> packages on gforge.free.fr. Webmaster> I cannot get Postgresql to start. I tested it on my local Webmaster> machine and never ran into this problem. Any ideas would be Webmaster> great. (ok.. maybe I should try the Worcester Coop course! <G>) Webmaster> I get this message when I try to start it as root "bash: Webmaster> /etc/init.d/postgresql: Permission denied" Is that file executable? -Jeff

June 4, 2004

Debian/Postgresql question

by Webmaster＠atari-users.net

Hello, I'm working on installing Gforge(.org) on a server running Debian. I'm using "apt-get install gforge" using the packages on gforge.free.fr. I cannot get Postgresql to start. I tested it on my local machine and never ran into this problem. Any ideas would be great. (ok.. maybe I should try the Worcester Coop course! <G>) I get this message when I try to start it as root "bash: /etc/init.d/postgresql: Permission denied" the pg_hba.conf: local all all trust host all all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 trust Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rob Mahlert http://www.atari-users.net http://www.atariforge.net

June 4, 2004

Re: [Wlug] worcestercoop.org

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 03 June 2004 7:27 pm, frank p wrote: > One of their people had contacted the WPI Student ACM Chapter asking for > help, but I'm not sure if anything ever came of that. I think a couple of > them even showed up to the Linux Installfest the ACM had back in early > April, so there's definitely activity going on with that group. Doing > something jointly definitely sounds like it could be mutually benefitial. > > just my 2 pence > -frank p HI all, I just fired off an email to one of their contacts. I introduced WLUG, invited them to a future meeting, and asked if they had any ideas on how our groups might help each other. I'll let you know if/when I get a response. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 4, 2004

Re: [Wlug] worcestercoop.org

by frank p

One of their people had contacted the WPI Student ACM Chapter asking for help, but I'm not sure if anything ever came of that. I think a couple of them even showed up to the Linux Installfest the ACM had back in early April, so there's definitely activity going on with that group. Doing something jointly definitely sounds like it could be mutually benefitial. just my 2 pence -frank p

June 3, 2004

Re: [Wlug] worcestercoop.org

by Bill Smith

On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 15:50:48 -0400 Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On Thursday 03 June 2004 11:28 am, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > > Andy Stewart wrote: > > >On Thursday 03 June 2004 9:20 am, Brock wrote: > > > > > > > > >Hi all, > > > > > >This is the first I have heard of this organization. I read their webpage > > > and it looks interesting. They are located not far from where I used to > > > live in Worcester. I'm considering contacting them. > > > > > >Andy > > > > Andy, you don't need to take classes from them... We can help you with > > the switch to Debian! ;-) > > Ouch! Good one! :-) <donning asbestos skivvies> Hm. This sounds like some sort of distro-war a-brewin'... ;) (besides... Debian may be stable, but it's outdated...) <doffing asbestos skivvies before the rash starts> > Actually, I was wondering if there might be some synergy between the > two organizations. if there IS some sort of synergy, perhaps they could be tapped to speak to WLUG about how older systems can be recycled? I've got a move coming up in a few months, and my wife is pestering me to "get rid of" some of my old equipment... <sigh> I should make another list... -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA

June 3, 2004

Re: [Wlug] worcestercoop.org

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 03 June 2004 11:28 am, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: > >On Thursday 03 June 2004 9:20 am, Brock wrote: > > > > > >Hi all, > > > >This is the first I have heard of this organization. I read their webpage > > and it looks interesting. They are located not far from where I used to > > live in Worcester. I'm considering contacting them. > > > >Andy > > Andy, you don't need to take classes from them... We can help you with > the switch to Debian! ;-) Ouch! Good one! :-) Actually, I was wondering if there might be some synergy between the two organizations. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 3, 2004

Re: [Wlug] worcestercoop.org

by Stephen C. Daukas

Andy Stewart wrote: >On Thursday 03 June 2004 9:20 am, Brock wrote: > > >Hi all, > >This is the first I have heard of this organization. I read their webpage and >it looks interesting. They are located not far from where I used to live in >Worcester. I'm considering contacting them. > >Andy > Andy, you don't need to take classes from them... We can help you with the switch to Debian! ;-)

June 3, 2004

Re: [Wlug] worcestercoop.org

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 03 June 2004 9:20 am, Brock wrote: > On 2004.06.03.10.21, gaba wrote: > | For those of you that dont know there is a project for recycling > | computers with linux in Worcester: worcestercoop.org > | I dont know anything about it but it looks interesting. > > I'd actually been meaning to ask y'all if you had anything to do with > the coop project. They use linux :) (and have training for it and such) > > --Brock Hi all, This is the first I have heard of this organization. I read their webpage and it looks interesting. They are located not far from where I used to live in Worcester. I'm considering contacting them. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 3, 2004

worcestercoop.org

by Brock

On 2004.06.03.10.21, gaba wrote: | For those of you that dont know there is a project for recycling | computers with linux in Worcester: worcestercoop.org | I dont know anything about it but it looks interesting. I'd actually been meaning to ask y'all if you had anything to do with the coop project. They use linux :) (and have training for it and such) --Brock

June 3, 2004

Re: [Wlug] DEC Miata

by gaba

For those of you that dont know there is a project for recycling computers with linux in Worcester: worcestercoop.org I dont know anything about it but it looks interesting. On Tue, 2004-06-01 at 01:55, Andy Stewart wrote: > HI everybody, > > Here is a DEC Miata system looking for a home. If you are interested, please > contact Mike Keenan directly. -- gaba <gaba(a)riseup.net> siamo tutti clandestino

June 3, 2004

Re: [Wlug] any ideas?

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Jun 02, 2004 at 04:00:05PM -0400, Keller, Tim wrote: > The first big issue your going to have to tackle is getting the data out of > the existing database. I highly doubt that this proprietary software will > let you do something like export your whole catalog to a comma delimited > file. If it can, then you'd be all set. However, it probably should allow > you to run a report of all the volumes you've got in your library. Either > way, you'll need to get your data into some sort of normalized form that you > could use to populate your new database. Luckily, libraries tend to have their own standard data formats, like MARC: http://www.loc.gov/marc/

June 2, 2004

Re: [Wlug] any ideas?

by Karl Hiramoto

My experience, exporting a commercial database can be tough.. Find out if your lucky enough to have a ODBC interface or something. or try and find where the database stores it's files and try to decipher :). Keller, Tim wrote: > Nope. However, I can envision how you might go about it. > > I did a quick look on freshmeat.net and found this application: > http://ola.sourceforge.net/ which looks like it might suite your needs > perfectly. No sense reinventing the wheel... > > When you say "open source" I'm taking a broad shot in the dark that > you want to setup some sort of linux based web front end with a mysql > or postgres backend? > > The first big issue your going to have to tackle is getting the data > out of the existing database. I highly doubt that this proprietary > software will let you do something like export your whole catalog to a > comma delimited file. If it can, then you'd be all set. However, it > probably should allow you to run a report of all the volumes you've > got in your library. Either way, you'll need to get your data into > some sort of normalized form that you could use to populate your new > database. > > Hope this helps... > > Tim. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* brad [mailto:brad0002@ameritech.net] > *Sent:* Saturday, May 29, 2004 1:03 AM > *To:* wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > *Subject:* [Wlug] any ideas? > > Our school uses commercial library automation software. We would > like to convert the database to open source. Anyone have > experience doing so? > Thanks, > Dbn0002(a)aol.com <mailto:Dbn0002@aol.com> > Please send your reply to this email address. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- -- Karl Hiramoto karl at hiramoto dot org http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Mobile: 508.517.4819 Work: 978-425-2090

June 2, 2004

RE: [Wlug] any ideas?

by Keller, Tim

Nope. However, I can envision how you might go about it. I did a quick look on freshmeat.net and found this application: http://ola.sourceforge.net/ <http://ola.sourceforge.net/> which looks like it might suite your needs perfectly. No sense reinventing the wheel... When you say "open source" I'm taking a broad shot in the dark that you want to setup some sort of linux based web front end with a mysql or postgres backend? The first big issue your going to have to tackle is getting the data out of the existing database. I highly doubt that this proprietary software will let you do something like export your whole catalog to a comma delimited file. If it can, then you'd be all set. However, it probably should allow you to run a report of all the volumes you've got in your library. Either way, you'll need to get your data into some sort of normalized form that you could use to populate your new database. Hope this helps... Tim. -----Original Message----- From: brad [mailto:brad0002@ameritech.net] Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 1:03 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] any ideas? Our school uses commercial library automation software. We would like to convert the database to open source. Anyone have experience doing so? Thanks, Dbn0002(a)aol.com <mailto:Dbn0002@aol.com> Please send your reply to this email address.

June 2, 2004

Re: [Wlug] any ideas?

by Michael Long

Which database are you currently using. Their are some tools available to port from MS SQL Server to MySQL or Postgres. I prefer Postgres because it has the functionality of a "real" database (referential integrety, functions, triggers, etc.) although with MySQL version 5 some of these features are being added. Both databases have nice GUI's to help with administering the database. hth, Mike > Our school uses commercial library automation software. We would like to convert > the database to open source. Anyone have experience doing so? > Thanks, > Dbn0002(a)aol.com > Please send your reply to this email > address._______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

June 2, 2004

Re: [Wlug] LTSP as a means of recycling old PCs...

by Bill Smith

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 11:38:24 -0400 "Martin, Eric" <MartinE(a)worc.k12.ma.us> wrote: >> The link is >> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/22/223425&&mode=thread&tid=126&tid… >> >> There's one comment that really drives the point home: #9227112 ... > Any body else have a problem getting to the article? Many have, aparently. I'm not sure why. I assure you, though, if you look for LTSP on Slashdot, you'll find the article, and from there, you can hunt for the post I was referring to... -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA

June 2, 2004

RE: [Wlug] LTSP as a means of recycling old PCs...

by Martin, Eric

Any body else have a problem getting to the article? Eric *********************** There's a post on Slashdot talking about LTSP... (Yeah, I posted it... <g>) The link is http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/22/223425&&mode=thread&tid=126&tid= 137&tid=163&tid=187 There's one comment that really drives the point home: #9227112 ... Anyway, I know that there was a recent WLUG meeting about LTSP, so I thought this might be of interest. -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA -----Original Message----- From: Bill Smith [mailto:wsmith@chezsmith.com] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 8:22 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] LTSP as a means of recycling old PCs... _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 2, 2004

DEC Miata

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, Here is a DEC Miata system looking for a home. If you are interested, please contact Mike Keenan directly. -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 31, 2004

any ideas?

by brad

Our school uses commercial library automation software. We would like to convert the database to open source. Anyone have experience doing so? Thanks, Dbn0002(a)aol.com Please send your reply to this email address.

May 29, 2004

Re: [Wlug] xcdroast

by Bill Mills-Curran

On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 04:52:07PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Thursday 27 May 2004 4:38 pm, gma2004(a)verizon.net wrote: > > Start xcdroast as root, go to Create CD, then Master Tracks. You should > > see your directory tree in the right window. Select the > > files/directories you want and add them to the left window. Then you > > have to create the image. After that you can burn the image to the CD > > (Write Tracks). > > > > I skipped a few tricky details, but that's the general procedure. Let me > > know if you want more. > > I've found xcdroast alot more intuitive than k3b. You do need to first run it > as root to do the setup stuff and to enable non-root users the privilege of > running the tool. After that, it should be smooth sailing as described by > Greg (above). > > Let us know if you're still stuck on something. > > Andy <snip> Thanks everyone, The "Master Tracks" was they key, however, it's not very smooth, and that seems to be caused by not having a CD in the read drive. (My machine has a DVD drive and a CDR.) So, if I just have a blank in the CDR, xcdroast tries to read the DVD & times out. The time out is quite long. Once I get past that, I can get to "Master Tracks" and I can then make progress. All in all, though, I made better progress with less frustration with using mkisofs & cdrecord directly. Thanks for your help. Bill

May 28, 2004

Web Contractor needed

by Evans, Robert

FYI: Temporary Job opportunity. If interested, please contact the person listed below directly. - Bob Evans > Subject: job desc > > The Town of Stow, MA is looking for a contractor to work on the town's web > site (www.stow-ma.gov) Required skills include PHP and mySQL, CSS and HTML. > Build web-based forms with proper security for entering data, fix bugs, add > small amount of functionality, document architecture. Begin work immediately, > up to 40 hours/week through June. > > Send resume and qualifications to Anne VanTine, 978-562-4733, stowtv(a)stow-ma.gov.

May 28, 2004

Re: [Wlug] xcdroast

by gma2004＠verizon.net

Go into setup and select HD Settings from the tabs above the window. You can enter the path to your image directory manually at the bottom, or click on Browse and you should see your directory tree. This is just to select the directory where mkisofs dumps the image it makes. Be sure that your user has permission for that directory. That is, if you can set it up for a non-root user. I don't seem to be able to do that with my latest installation. When you say "from" do you mean where you want to get the files from your hard drive that you want to burn to cd? That's not in setup, that's in Master Tracks (under Create CD). If you can't see your hard drive here, then I'd guess that there's a problem with the installation. Greg Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > It's the "from" that I want to add. Yes, I did go into setup, but I > could do much with it. > > I got tired of floundering and burnt the CD the old fashioned way with > mkisofs and cdrecord. > > Bill > > On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 02:57:52PM -0400, orbitz(a)ezabel.com wrote: > >>Did you take the time to go through the setup and give it drives to write ISO's >>to? >>More information is required. >> >>On Thu, 27 May 2004 14:33:58 -0400 >>Bill Mills-Curran <bill(a)mills-curran.net> wrote: >> >> >>>I'm not much of a CD burner. I've used xcdroast to copy CD's, but I'm >>>having problems getting it to use files from my hard drive. In fact, >>>I can't even get it to look at my hard drive. What's the trick? >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Bill >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Wlug mailing list >>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

May 28, 2004

Re: [Wlug] xcdroast

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 27 May 2004 4:38 pm, gma2004(a)verizon.net wrote: > Start xcdroast as root, go to Create CD, then Master Tracks. You should > see your directory tree in the right window. Select the > files/directories you want and add them to the left window. Then you > have to create the image. After that you can burn the image to the CD > (Write Tracks). > > I skipped a few tricky details, but that's the general procedure. Let me > know if you want more. I've found xcdroast alot more intuitive than k3b. You do need to first run it as root to do the setup stuff and to enable non-root users the privilege of running the tool. After that, it should be smooth sailing as described by Greg (above). Let us know if you're still stuck on something. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

May 27, 2004