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RE: [Wlug] Hibernation

by Martin, Eric

Ok, I'm using 2.4. Yes, ACPI is more recent than APM....I tried 2.6 once and stuff worked oddly, so I went back to 2.4 (2.4 gentoo-sources as opposed to ck-2.6 for all you gentoo buffs). Thank you all, I guess I'll have to get 2.6 working... Eric -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:30 PM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] Hibernation On Thursday 10 June 2004 3:54 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 10 June 2004 02:53 pm, Martin, Eric wrote: > > does anybody know of a hibernate mode in linux (suspend to disk)? > > If there is, where? If there isn't, how hard is that to code? > > my ppc laptop has suppport via the hardware in 2.6 ... there's also > 'Software Suspend' and 'Suspend-to-Disk' support in 2.6 for all x86 > machines ... -mike Note that my laptop is running a 2.6 kernel and that the hibernate mode works pretty well, actually! When the user invokes the hibernate mode (suspend to disk) the software writes its info into the swap file, and then the machine powers off. When the machine is later powered on and starts to boot, a parameter is passed to the kernel which tells it to look at the swap file. If the swap file has valid "hibernate info" in it, the machine will resume that state, otherwise it will perform a normal boot sequence. I'm pretty sure I'm using ACPI, which is (I believe) a more recent standard than APM. Check to see what your hardware supports. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 11, 2004

Re: [Wlug] email sending problem with comcast

by Dwight A. Ernest

Andy Stewart wrote: > HI all, > > This is driving me nuts...I still have that problem where I get intermittent > failures while sending email, even after hard coding the IP number for > smtp.comcast.net (they normally have 4 different IPs...I hard coded one to > make debug easier). > > Does anybody know the SMTP protocol sufficiently that they could help me debug > this problem ? I have ethereal traces - one when it works, and another when > it doesn't. I see differences, but I don't know why, nor do I know what I > should do as a remedy. > > Thanks, > > Andy > I know SMTP pretty well; send me the traces and I'll see what I can do. -- Dwight A. Ernest, dwight at significant dot com GPG key A6999567 Cell: +1-508-523-1416 FAX: +1-978-405-2504 YIM: dwight_ernest RHCE #803004293310030 http://significant.com/~dwight/ KA2CNN Papa, partner, pilot, net geek, sysadmin, consultant, cohouser.

June 11, 2004

email sending problem with comcast

by Andy Stewart

HI all, This is driving me nuts...I still have that problem where I get intermittent failures while sending email, even after hard coding the IP number for smtp.comcast.net (they normally have 4 different IPs...I hard coded one to make debug easier). Does anybody know the SMTP protocol sufficiently that they could help me debug this problem ? I have ethereal traces - one when it works, and another when it doesn't. I see differences, but I don't know why, nor do I know what I should do as a remedy. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 11, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Hibernation

by Mike Frysinger

On Thursday 10 June 2004 05:29 pm, Andy Stewart wrote: > I'm pretty sure I'm using ACPI, which is (I believe) a more recent standard > than APM. Check to see what your hardware supports. it is ... it's just a matter of hoping the ACPI in your machine isnt broken, and if it is, that linux has support for working around it :) -mike

June 10, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Hibernation

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 10 June 2004 3:54 pm, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 10 June 2004 02:53 pm, Martin, Eric wrote: > > does anybody know of a hibernate mode in linux (suspend to disk)? If > > there is, where? If there isn't, how hard is that to code? > > my ppc laptop has suppport via the hardware in 2.6 ... > there's also 'Software Suspend' and 'Suspend-to-Disk' support in 2.6 for > all x86 machines ... > -mike Note that my laptop is running a 2.6 kernel and that the hibernate mode works pretty well, actually! When the user invokes the hibernate mode (suspend to disk) the software writes its info into the swap file, and then the machine powers off. When the machine is later powered on and starts to boot, a parameter is passed to the kernel which tells it to look at the swap file. If the swap file has valid "hibernate info" in it, the machine will resume that state, otherwise it will perform a normal boot sequence. I'm pretty sure I'm using ACPI, which is (I believe) a more recent standard than APM. Check to see what your hardware supports. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 10, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Hibernation

by Mike Frysinger

On Thursday 10 June 2004 02:53 pm, Martin, Eric wrote: > does anybody know of a hibernate mode in linux (suspend to disk)? If there > is, where? If there isn't, how hard is that to code? my ppc laptop has suppport via the hardware in 2.6 ... there's also 'Software Suspend' and 'Suspend-to-Disk' support in 2.6 for all x86 machines ... -mike

June 10, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Hibernation

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 10 June 2004 2:53 pm, Martin, Eric wrote: > does anybody know of a hibernate mode in linux (suspend to disk)? If there > is, where? If there isn't, how hard is that to code? > > Eric HI Eric, If its what I think it is, my laptop does it. Its part of the power management software (either APM or ACPI). Check it out to see if that functionality is supported on your computer. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 10, 2004

Hibernation

by Martin, Eric

does anybody know of a hibernate mode in linux (suspend to disk)? If there is, where? If there isn't, how hard is that to code? Eric

June 10, 2004

new program, possible meeting topic [was Re: [Wlug] New meeting schedule posted]

by John M Rulnick

> I'm still seeing a volunteer to run the June meeting with some > topic of interest. I'd welcome a chance to talk for a few minutes at the June meeting, if possible. The focus would be on a new weekend program I'm involved with launching at Bay Path College Central Mass Center that's aimed at developing Linux-savvy sys-, net-, and database admins. I suppose there may be some potential students in WLUG, but just as likely (more likely) there may be folks interested in teaching in the program. I could talk about pretty much any aspect of the program that interests people. If the June meeting works out, I could of course give more details and answer questions then. If not, no problem, perhaps July or August? -- and anyone interested in the meantime is more than welcome to contact me. John

June 10, 2004

New meeting schedule posted

by Andy Stewart

HI all, Please check the recently updated WLUG website for the meeting schedule for the next 12 months or so. Note that we'll be having our annual WLUG BBQ at Doug Waud's house on Wednesday, July 21 (weather permitting). More details forthcoming. I'm still seeing a volunteer to run the June meeting with some topic of interest. Otherwise, I'll have to cram and give a presentation about the bootsplash software, which would be tough for me to demo since VMware doesn't work on SuSE 9.1 (yet). See ya later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 9, 2004

Re: [Wlug] RE: Usenix Conference June 27-July 2

by Andy Stewart

On Wednesday 09 June 2004 1:52 pm, albutler33(a)netscape.net wrote: > Andy, > > Do we still have to register for the conference even though the events are > free? Can we just show up and head for the events we're invited to? > > Al Butler HI Al, No, one does not need to register for the converence to attend the "Super-LUG" meeting. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 9, 2004

RE: Usenix Conference June 27-July 2

by albutler33＠netscape.net

wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: >Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >Subject: [Wlug] Fwd: Usenix Conference in Boston June 27-July 2 >Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 21:42:43 -0400 >From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> >To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > > >-- >Andy Stewart, Founder >Worcester Linux Users' Group >Worcester, MA USA >http://www.wlug.org >

June 9, 2004

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June 9, 2004

Fwd: Usenix Conference in Boston June 27-July 2

by Andy Stewart

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June 9, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Contract Web Work

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, Charles A. Haines wrote: CAH>Someone posted some information on here about contract web work for Stow, Ma, CAH>and I was curious if whoever it was knew if the position had been filled, and CAH>if not, could they pass along that email to send resumes to to me? I seemed to CAH>have misplaced the email. The WLUG mail is archived. Check the link for "Mailing List" off of the WLUG homepage, then the "archive" link. search around for a bit. I believe the message you are looking for is here: http://paramount.ind.wpi.edu/pipermail/wlug/2004-May/003740.html

June 6, 2004

Contract Web Work

by Charles A. Haines

Someone posted some information on here about contract web work for Stow, Ma, and I was curious if whoever it was knew if the position had been filled, and if not, could they pass along that email to send resumes to to me? I seemed to have misplaced the email. Thanks, Chuck ====================== Charles A. Haines Contract Web Developer 3G Publishing ====================== http://www.3gpub.com ======================

June 5, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Trolling for topics for the June meeting

by frank p

Here are a few ideas I've been mulling over, some applicable for now, some for later. If I had a vote for this month, I'd say the first one would be an interesting experiment in organized anarchy ;+) -frank p ---Distro roundup:--- We could have a discussion about the strengths _and_ weaknesses of the popular distro's. My idea with this one is that your selection of a distro should be dependent on what you're looking for... stability and security vs. usability, ave-joe vs. IT / programmer, general vs. specific use (desktop vs. server) Of course there would be at least a little distro-evangelism, but as long as everyone is civil / respectable then it def would be "fun", and maybe even educational. ---Gaming / Relaxing with Linux:--- This might be good for the fall, when there's an influx of new students to the surrounding schools. We could go over some of the simple games on a default install of the common distro's / desktops. Touch on simple stuff like solitaire and also more complex like FreeCIV and even UT2k2. This would be a good lead-in to a LAN party at some point, too :+) ---How to effectively use the OpenOffice suite:--- I've personally always wanted to use it more often, but haven't taken the plunge, yet. It'd be neat to hear from a few people who use it on a regular basis and some stories about (in)compatibilities with the MS equivalent apps. ---Setting up a Content Management System for your website:--- A really nice way to setup something for non-programmers to edit web content, especially for volunteer organizations (oh yes, I'm talking from experience here). This could either be an intro to them in general with a focus / example of one in particular, or maybe a round-up of a few different ones and their strengths / weaknesses. On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI everybody, > > The summer months always make it tough to draw people to a WLUG meeting, and > announcing a meeting without sufficient notice makes it worse. Thus, I'll > start the monthly troll for topics now in the hope that we can nail down this > month's topic and advertise the meeting so that we'll have a pretty good > turnout. > > If you have topics on which you would like to address WLUG, please let me > know. > > FYI: I'm fabricating the schedule for upcoming meetings. It should be posted > shortly. > > FYI: I'm currently negotiating the time and place for the annual WLUG BBQ to > be held in July. More news coming soon. Stay tuned! > > Andy > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org

June 5, 2004

Trolling for topics for the June meeting

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, The summer months always make it tough to draw people to a WLUG meeting, and announcing a meeting without sufficient notice makes it worse. Thus, I'll start the monthly troll for topics now in the hope that we can nail down this month's topic and advertise the meeting so that we'll have a pretty good turnout. If you have topics on which you would like to address WLUG, please let me know. FYI: I'm fabricating the schedule for upcoming meetings. It should be posted shortly. FYI: I'm currently negotiating the time and place for the annual WLUG BBQ to be held in July. More news coming soon. Stay tuned! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 5, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding RE: [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question; "Webmaster(a)atari-users.net" <webmaster(a)atari-users.net> adds: Webmaster> Thanks for the replies guys, Webmaster> I had changed the file to '777' but it was still giving the Webmaster> permission denied. I'll check the postgres user. 777?! dude, fix that! Anyway, if you still have issues as postgres user, you could try doing sh -x /etc/init.d/postgres start and figure out exactly where it's bombing. -Jeff

June 4, 2004

Re: [Wlug] any ideas?

by John Stoffel

brad> Our school uses commercial library automation software. We would brad> like to convert the database to open source. Anyone have brad> experience doing so? My wife works at a library which has been working on switching from one DB and vendor to another for their data. It's not easy in general, though if you can get the old DB to export data in a known and stardard format (such as MARC, see another reply to this thread for details) then you're closer. You should also take a look at the Koha open source library software. It includes all the various modules you need to run a library. http://www.koha.org Also, it's not clear what you're really trying to do here. Are you trying to move from Oracle to MySQL (for example), while keeping the same commercial library automation software? Or are you looking to replace the entire software stack you're using? John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-952-7548

June 4, 2004

RE: [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question

by Webmaster＠atari-users.net

Thanks for the replies guys, I had changed the file to '777' but it was still giving the permission denied. I'll check the postgres user. Rob Mahlert >-----Original Message----- >From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org]On >Behalf Of Michael Long >Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 8:47 AM >To: Worcester Linux Users Group >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question > > >It also may have permissions set to require it to be run by the >"postgres" user. > >Jeff Moyer wrote: > >>==> Regarding [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question; >"Webmaster(a)atari-users.net" <webmaster(a)atari-users.net> adds: >> >>Webmaster> Hello, I'm working on installing Gforge(.org) on a server >>Webmaster> running Debian. I'm using "apt-get install gforge" using the >>Webmaster> packages on gforge.free.fr. >> >>Webmaster> I cannot get Postgresql to start. I tested it on my local >>Webmaster> machine and never ran into this problem. Any ideas would be >>Webmaster> great. (ok.. maybe I should try the Worcester Coop course! <G>) >> >>Webmaster> I get this message when I try to start it as root "bash: >>Webmaster> /etc/init.d/postgresql: Permission denied" >> >>Is that file executable? >> >>-Jeff >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 4, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question

by Michael Long

It also may have permissions set to require it to be run by the "postgres" user. Jeff Moyer wrote: >==> Regarding [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question; "Webmaster(a)atari-users.net" <webmaster(a)atari-users.net> adds: > >Webmaster> Hello, I'm working on installing Gforge(.org) on a server >Webmaster> running Debian. I'm using "apt-get install gforge" using the >Webmaster> packages on gforge.free.fr. > >Webmaster> I cannot get Postgresql to start. I tested it on my local >Webmaster> machine and never ran into this problem. Any ideas would be >Webmaster> great. (ok.. maybe I should try the Worcester Coop course! <G>) > >Webmaster> I get this message when I try to start it as root "bash: >Webmaster> /etc/init.d/postgresql: Permission denied" > >Is that file executable? > >-Jeff > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >

June 4, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question

by Jeff Moyer

==> Regarding [Wlug] Debian/Postgresql question; "Webmaster(a)atari-users.net" <webmaster(a)atari-users.net> adds: Webmaster> Hello, I'm working on installing Gforge(.org) on a server Webmaster> running Debian. I'm using "apt-get install gforge" using the Webmaster> packages on gforge.free.fr. Webmaster> I cannot get Postgresql to start. I tested it on my local Webmaster> machine and never ran into this problem. Any ideas would be Webmaster> great. (ok.. maybe I should try the Worcester Coop course! <G>) Webmaster> I get this message when I try to start it as root "bash: Webmaster> /etc/init.d/postgresql: Permission denied" Is that file executable? -Jeff

June 4, 2004

Debian/Postgresql question

by Webmaster＠atari-users.net

Hello, I'm working on installing Gforge(.org) on a server running Debian. I'm using "apt-get install gforge" using the packages on gforge.free.fr. I cannot get Postgresql to start. I tested it on my local machine and never ran into this problem. Any ideas would be great. (ok.. maybe I should try the Worcester Coop course! <G>) I get this message when I try to start it as root "bash: /etc/init.d/postgresql: Permission denied" the pg_hba.conf: local all all trust host all all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 trust Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rob Mahlert http://www.atari-users.net http://www.atariforge.net

June 4, 2004

Re: [Wlug] worcestercoop.org

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 03 June 2004 7:27 pm, frank p wrote: > One of their people had contacted the WPI Student ACM Chapter asking for > help, but I'm not sure if anything ever came of that. I think a couple of > them even showed up to the Linux Installfest the ACM had back in early > April, so there's definitely activity going on with that group. Doing > something jointly definitely sounds like it could be mutually benefitial. > > just my 2 pence > -frank p HI all, I just fired off an email to one of their contacts. I introduced WLUG, invited them to a future meeting, and asked if they had any ideas on how our groups might help each other. I'll let you know if/when I get a response. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

June 4, 2004